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2004-08-01 Russia

Putin accuses western agents of undermining Ukraine ties

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Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-08-01 12:55|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It couldn't be Ukrainian resentment and distrust over the 6-8 million dead of the Stalin engineered famine and executions or being conquered and reabsorbed into the Russian empire after the Russian Civil War.

Posted by ed 2004-08-01 1:18:46 PM|| 2004-08-01 1:18:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 a) The millions of Ukrainians deliberately starved by the Russians from 1932-33 are actually higher than 6-8 Million...it's more like 8-10 Million...better known as the Great Famine-Genocide in Soviet Ukraine (Holodomor).

http://www.artukraine.com/famineart/cady_brown.htm

b)And sadly the famine-genocide of the Ukrainians continues to remain an "insignificant" event in history, rarely discussed outside of Ukrainian circles in world history. Salt was recently administered to the Ukrainians'open wound by the owner of the NYT, Arthur Sulzberger Jr., and by the Pulitzer committee.

One of the major reasons this atrocity was covered up at the time it happened was due to NYT journalist, Walter Duranty, who consciously covered up the stories coming out of Europe about Stalin's atrocities against the Ukrainians and Duranty attacked the allegations as being ANTI-COMMUNIST PROPOGANDA. Duranty was a senior foreign corresponant and his views carried alot of weight at the time. Duranty won a Pulitizer for his false reporting.

About 2 years ago - an event as under reported as the Stalin imposed starvation of Ukrainians - the Ukrainian Canadian Civil Liberties Union started a campaign to have Duranty stripped of his Pulitizer posthumously by the NYT. Arthur Sulzberger Jr. rigorously politic'ed the Pulitzer Prize Committee not to do so, arguing this would be a precedent...this was clearly a lie....and because he said Duranty earned the Pulitizer for the good journalism he wrote before he lied about Stalin's genocide of the Ukrainians...from an article in the Calgary Sun by Paul Jackson May 20, 2003:
...For his falsifications, Jayson Blair has been banished from the New York Times, but Walter Duranty paid no penalty for his outrageous behaviour. The Times and the Pulitzer Prize Committee still claim Duranty received his award for work before his sham reporting in the Soviet Union in 1932-33. This is like suggesting an apologist for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime should still be honoured for earlier endeavours.
Ukrainians the world over deserve justice, and the Times should give them that justice by stripping Duranty of his Pulitzer Prize now. Right now.

http://www.artukraine.com/famineart/st_apologist.htm

Postscript: Just because Arthur Sulzberger Jr. is Jewish, it doesn't give him a free pass from honest criticism about unconscionable behavior.

Posted by rex 2004-08-01 2:12:05 PM|| 2004-08-01 2:12:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 This newspiece seems significant to me for two reason.

1) First of all it shows, possibly for the first time, a clear case of Putin using anti-Western rhetoric -- not only that but connecting this with his desired reemergence of a united neoSoviet block. Pretty much the way he dubbed everyone who disagreed with the emergence of such a block a "western agent". Purging times a-coming?

(Some time ago, btw, I had argued that Putin was using anti-American rhetoric in a certain incident rather than the merely anti-Democrat rhetoric other people here believed he was using. This incident here is much clearer on the general anti-Western front, even if he doesn't attack Americans alone but the West in general.)

2) Secondly, because as the article says "Ukraine has approved membership of this space, but, so far, the government has insisted it will not implement anything that damages its chances of EU integration - such as a single currency or a free trade zone."

...which shows what I've said before, that the existence of the EU (and the hope some countries like Ukraine or Georgia have of joining it) seems one of the few roadblocks towards the reemergence of such a new Soviet Union -- same as the EU is one of the influences against Turkey sliding back to either a secular or an Islamist tyranny.

Which also connects to an earlier discussion of one or two days ago, about EU's influence in the world.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-08-01 3:08:14 PM|| 2004-08-01 3:08:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Postscript: Just because Arthur Sulzberger Jr. is Jewish, it doesn't give him a free pass from honest criticism about unconscionable behavior.

Wouldn't Sulzberger's status as a Jew make it just that more important for him to get out the truth about Stalin's pogroms? All of this simply reeks of manipulation. Unca Joe may have killed more Jews than Hitler. He most certainly killed more people than Adolph. Yet, like the Armenian genocide, the world continues to sweep this one under the rug. Go figure.

Posted by Zenster 2004-08-01 3:18:56 PM|| 2004-08-01 3:18:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Aris! You're getting way too single issue.
Tell us about your brother, do you plan to sell him into slavery? Is that still allowed? If not, why not? Is it an EU thing? :)

Posted by Shipman 2004-08-01 4:26:05 PM|| 2004-08-01 4:26:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 It almost pains me to say this but I agree with Aris on this one. Putin, it seems, longs for the days of the old Soviet Union and is having some trouble so ramp up the ole' anti Western retoric.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-08-01 5:51:33 PM|| 2004-08-01 5:51:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Big deal. This is Putin's answer to the EU and NATO creeping up next door. Keep in mind it's not only Putin that longs for the days of the Soviet Union, but a solid 1/3 of the people as well.

Posted by Rafael 2004-08-01 11:43:58 PM|| 2004-08-01 11:43:58 PM|| Front Page Top

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