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2004-06-27 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-06-27 2:08:13 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 the goal posts move again.....sure, intel guyz are revealing all they know to Newsweak, rrriigghhht

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-27 7:10:54 PM|| 2004-06-27 7:10:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Tenet in Oct. '02 told the Senate, among other things:

"We have credible reporting that Al Qaeda leaders sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire W.M.D. capabilities. The reporting also stated that Iraq has provided training to Al Qaeda members in the areas of poisons and gases and making conventional bombs." (emphasis added)

Wonder if al-Libi's recantation -- if it's borne out, however that might be done -- covers the conventional bombs part as well. Cheney in at least one TV interview specifically referred to the Tenet letter. And haven't I seen somewhere that "forgery" technical assistance to AQ from Iraq was also involved?

Of course, contrary to the unnamed official's quote, it most certainly does NOT depend on one's definition of "relationship". Contacts and a common enemy (us) were not in doubt, nor were Iraqi WMD capabilities and recklessness: regardless of the details and precise contours of any AQ-Iraq relationship, those factors were more than sufficient to force a decision on whether Iraq's potential menace as armorer to AQ or its ilk could be contained/managed or must be elminated pre-emptively. We know which way that was decided -- I have yet to see a detailed and serious alternative decision and plan be presented, 15 months since the war was launched.

Posted by Verlaine 2004-06-27 8:59:54 PM|| 2004-06-27 8:59:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Verlaine: "regardless of the details and precise contours of any AQ-Iraq relationship, those factors were more than sufficient to force a decision on whether Iraq's potential menace as armorer to AQ or its ilk could be contained/managed or must be elminated pre-emptively. We know which way that was decided -- I have yet to see a detailed and serious alternative decision and plan be presented, 15 months since the war was launched."

Sheer simplisme, Verlaine. By the well-known rules of the game of Gotcha, the admin errs when it connects dots which, retrospectively, maybe should not have been connected-- just as it errs when, retrospectively, it appears that it failed to connect dots that should have been connected. Your so-called "analysis" therefore ignores the essential elements of Gotcha: (1) that it's played by looking at the rear-view mirror, not through the windshield, and (2) the outcome must always be that the admin screwed up.

Is that really too complicated for your feeble freeper brain to grasp?

Posted by Wuzzalib 2004-06-27 10:11:47 PM|| 2004-06-27 10:11:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 wuzzalib....you "gotcha" a bad case of the smartass there...."doncha"?

Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-06-27 10:22:47 PM|| 2004-06-27 10:22:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Wuzzalib -- excellent!

Though technically, "gotcha" doesn't work in this case, because the threat being pre-empted was acknowledged to be prospective. It can't be proved or disproved conclusively. Though it is now possible to scratch that potential problem off the list, conclusively ....

Posted by Verlaine 2004-06-28 12:00:59 AM|| 2004-06-28 12:00:59 AM|| Front Page Top

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