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2004-06-27 Home Front: WoT

Will the West survive? By Walter E. Williams

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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-06-27 12:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This guy's opening sentence is "The Muslim world is at war with Western civilization"

This is NOT TRUE.

The Islamofascist world is at war against Moderate Muslim "infidels" and against Western Civilisation.

Moderate Muslims who want to live a secular life, using Islam ONLY as a religion and NOT as a legal/political doctrine are seen as traitors to the Islamofascist version of religion: stray sheep who must be either brought back to the fold or declared apostates and killed.

Yes loads of them tacitly support the Islamofascists but our GOAL and MISSION is to drive a wedge between them, and isolate the Islamofascists.

The Islamofascist goal is to UNITE THE MUSLIM UMMAH against the west.

Articles like this hand that to them on a platter.

I consider articles like this to be almost treasonous considering the damage they do to our cause.

They help multiply our enemies and alienate such tenuous muslim allies as we can call on. They remove the slight help that we can get.

Australian police worked IN CONJUNCTION with Indonesian MUSLIM police to track down and catch the Bali Bombers.

Articles like this make jobs like that harder.

This type of propaganda is just peachy for fueling the great "us verses them" mentality that many muslims are already only too sympathetic towards.

For some actually INSIGHTFUL articles on the situation I strongly recommend Daniel Pipes:

http://www.danielpipes.org/

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-27 2:48:50 AM|| 2004-06-27 2:48:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Yes loads of them tacitly support the Islamofascists... check
our GOAL and MISSION is to drive a wedge between them, and isolate the Islamofascists...check
The point here is, if we outsider-infidels have to use a WEDGE to DRIVE APART the 'good' muslim from the 'bad' muslim, then clearly the 'good' muslim has already chosen sides. It's not a tough choice; don't tell me it's my job to help the poor, confused 'good' muslim see his way clear to the 21st century.

Posted by Anonymous5418 2004-06-27 11:00:50 AM|| 2004-06-27 11:00:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Pipes has come a long way, since 9/11. From the point of being almost an Edward Said - only with a still-functioning brain - to the point of admitting that, in the breach when the heat is on, the mythical moderate Muslim vaporizes under the gaze of the militant.

You can quote all of the DP you wish. Much of it will be out of date, obsolete, for such is the pace of his education. Today, he almost gets it. It has been a long journey for him - losing your virginity in slow motion, not to mention in full public view, must be quite an experience.

Those who can't manage it, flop desparately about on the beach after the tide. Later, they and their obviously absurd dogma, acquire that special aroma so characteristic of the apologist.

Posted by .com 2004-06-27 11:36:08 AM|| 2004-06-27 11:36:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#4
The Islamofascist goal .... Articles like this hand that to them on a platter. I consider articles like this to be almost treasonous ... They help multiply our enemies ....

Several Rantburgers today are very observantly identifying the hidden traitors in the War Against Terrorism. We all should be thankful for their extraordinary vigilance.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-06-27 11:37:36 AM|| 2004-06-27 11:37:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The Islamofascist goal is to UNITE THE MUSLIM UMMAH against the west.

Oops, too late ... they've already succeeded. Can we get on with wiping that vile culture off the face of the Earth now or must we suffer thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands more needless civilian deaths before we begin?

Posted by AzCat 2004-06-27 6:19:33 PM|| 2004-06-27 6:19:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Will the West survive?

The question is defensive in nature. Screw that. The question should be: Will Islam survive?

Posted by Zpaz 2004-06-27 8:55:30 PM|| 2004-06-27 8:55:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 .com, as usual you type without thinking.

Have you been to Pipes website recently?

You're right, I do like quoting DP I think he has a lot to say that is factual, logical and I think his judgement call is right.

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-29 7:08:58 AM|| 2004-06-29 7:08:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 And I don't. He almost gets it.

You're pretty free with criticism for someone who doesn't actually know fuck-all other than what you read. I think you're a fool who acquires his knowledge of life's miracles at second-hand.

Let me ask you a question - which you needn't answer here, just think about it.

When I read something which does not synch with the reality I lived with, with the events and attitudes which were part of my daily life, which does not reflect what I came to know was the truth -- which should I believe? My own experiences or the acclaimed expert? Acclaimed by whom? By people who have no first-hand experience but like the sound of the ideas and emotions they feel when reading his stuff. Is that truth? No, that's good writing. It has nothing to do with reality when it does not accurately portray reality.

Pipes is probably a nice guy. Probably be a good novelist. He's several bricks shy when it comes to portraying Islam in practice, however. Believe what makes you feel good, if that suits your criteria for truth - you're certainly not alone if you choose to be a fool. Some of us know better - and you should be grateful that we exist - for our voices serve to moderate the dangerous PC stupidity espoused by the voyeurs, apologists, and those actively engaged in suborning our vulnerable open system.

Posted by .com 2004-06-29 7:25:43 AM|| 2004-06-29 7:25:43 AM|| Front Page Top

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