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2004-05-09 Home Front: Culture Wars

LA Times Editor Carroll says Fox misleads!

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Posted by Cyber Sarge 2004-05-09 10:47:17 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 When I read this, I thought "What a lying sack of shit." I couldn't even get all the way through, I was so disgusted.

Scary thing is, I think he believes this crap. THAT'S why I don't trust the "professional" journalists.

I bet he loves the journalistic integrity of Al Jazera and Pravda

Of course he does; the LA Times is just a West Coast version of them.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-05-09 10:54:46 AM|| 2004-05-09 10:54:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Carroll doesn't believe it - he can't after the way his paper tried to re-elect Gray Davis. I fwd'd this to Patterico - he'll do a nip-n-tuck on it. He lives for reaming the LA Dog-trainer

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-09 11:13:56 AM|| 2004-05-09 11:13:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Any suprise this is occuring at a Leftish University?

Carroll cited a study released last year that showed Americans had three main
misconceptions about Iraq: That weapons of mass destruction had been found, a connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq had been demonstrated and that the world approved of U.S intervention in Iraq. He said 80 percent of people who primarily got their news from Fox believed at least one of the misconceptions. He said the figure was more than 57 percentage points higher than people who get their news from public news broadcasting.

"How in the world could Fox have left its listeners so deeply in the dark?" Carroll asked.

He added that a difference exists between journalism and propaganda.

Anyone know what study he is quoting? Was it a LALA Poll?

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-05-09 11:18:56 AM|| 2004-05-09 11:18:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 When I stopped consuming the offal pumped out by the leftists' ABCNBCCBSPBSAPNYTIMESDCPOSTLATIMESREUTERSBBC old media propaganda machine and turned for NEWS and !!!COMMENT labeled as COMMENT!!! to the FNC and the Washington Times and the myriad sources accessed via the new electronic medium, I knew objective !!!NEWS!!! and !!!COMMENT labeled as COMMENT!!! for the first time. AMERICANS as a people are no longer left with no choice but to be misinformed, disinformed, uninformed and lied to by marxist democrat party shitmongers including danny rather and penis jennings. Today, I AM INFORMED!!!

Posted by Garrison 2004-05-09 11:29:56 AM|| 2004-05-09 11:29:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Carroll cited a study released last year that showed Americans had three main
misconceptions about Iraq: That weapons of mass destruction had been found, a connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq had been demonstrated and that the world approved of U.S intervention in Iraq.

Two of those are true, and for the third -- "the opinions of worthless people are worthless".

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-09 11:45:31 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-05-09 11:45:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I posted this in the comments section of the story. It has to be reviewed by a 'comments editor' before it gets posted. Gee, I wonder if it will? :

'I'm sure the robber-barons of the past were upset when
their monopolies were broken, too. Well, get ready for
more of that thar newfangled Fox news, internet
reporting, blogs, etc...Mr. Carroll.

Sadly, this report about Carroll doesn't mention WHY
there is a vastly successful market for so-called
'pseudo-journalism'. Maybe it's because Mr. Carroll and
his ilk have badly mismanaged their stewardship of 'real
journalism'?

I'll give you some free advice, Mr. Carroll. These smug
proclamations about how you (and CNN and NYT et. al.) are
the 'real' journalists, while the newer upstarts are not,
is part of the reason why the general population
distrusts you.

The 'real journos' have made some real whopping mistakes,
but you don't hear the corrections trumpeted as loudly as
the false headlines, do you Mr. Carroll? Those misleading
stories also tend to tilt one way, politically. Ever
wonder why that is?

Have you ever been intellectually curious enough to
discover why the 'real journos' are mostly from one
party, and overwhelmingly vote for one particular party,
Mr. Carroll?

This little something called the Internet is going to
change everything in your 'profession', Mr. Carroll. It's
already started to...'

Posted by Les Nessman 2004-05-09 1:16:12 PM|| 2004-05-09 1:16:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Go Les!

Posted by J Fever MD 2004-05-09 1:43:41 PM|| 2004-05-09 1:43:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 THE L.A. DAVIS TIMES LOST OVER 15,000 SUBSCRIBERS OVER THAT FIASCO WITH ARNOLD.CARROL FLUBBED HIS WAY THROUGH TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE AWAY AND WAS NOT CONVINCiNG AT ALL,THE LIAR.

Posted by rich woods 2004-05-09 3:27:34 PM|| 2004-05-09 3:27:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 [Troll droppings deleted]

Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-09 3:48:55 PM|| 2004-05-09 3:48:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 MBD - give it a rest, will ya'? You give fucking idiots a bad name.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-05-09 4:11:11 PM|| 2004-05-09 4:11:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 In a scathing critique of Fox News and some talk show hosts, such as Bill O'Reilly, Carroll said they were a "different breed of journalists" who misled their audience while claiming to inform them.

Isn't this known as the pot calling the kettle black?

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-05-09 6:02:01 PM|| 2004-05-09 6:02:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Bomb, Bill O'Reilly tells people that he is giving 'commentary' Carroll (And Jennings, and Rather, and the others) freely mix their 'commentary' (or the DNC 'talking points') in with the news without attributing which is which.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-05-09 7:39:52 PM|| 2004-05-09 7:39:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#13

"All over the country there are offices that look like newsrooms and there are people in those offices that look for all the world just like journalists, but they are not practicing journalism,"

And prime examples can be found at 202 West 1st Street in Los Angeles.

Posted by Old Grouch 2004-05-09 10:06:06 PM|| 2004-05-09 10:06:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 ..(And Jennings, and Rather, and the others) freely mix their 'commentary' (or the DNC 'talking points') in with the news without attributing which is which.

I first noticed a very long time ago that Peter Jennings had a tendency to do that sort of thing. Needless to say, I don't watch ABC News anymore, at least not when he's "reporting" it.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-05-09 10:32:22 PM|| 2004-05-09 10:32:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-09 3:48:55 PM|| 2004-05-09 3:48:55 PM|| Front Page Top