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2004-01-07 Iraq

CIA interrogation of Saddam dealing with the possibility that it may become public

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-01-07 2:06:20 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "But if Saddamâs trial is to have any kind of legitimacy"

This phrase makes me cringe. Look, Saddam is a murdering, theiving bastard who deserves nothing but a bullet in his head. He IS guilty of mass murder, torture, and a whole host of violent and terrible crimes against the Iraqi people.

A trial is an epistemal process, designed to determine guilt or innocence, because quite often, there is doubt. In this case, there is none. The legal protections and rights everyone is talking about applies to the accused, and possibly innocent. not a means of protecting the guilty from the just punishment they deserve.

Posted by Ben 2004-1-7 3:02:43 AM|| 2004-1-7 3:02:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "Anything we do with him will almost certainly become public," Parry said. "If you were his defense attorney, you would run to the press. It will be blaring on Al-Jazeera within moments."

So what?

"Some say that is torture. "

No it's not, its no worse then we do to our special forces during hellweek.

Posted by chinditz 2004-1-7 8:24:14 AM|| [http://chinditz.blog-city.com/] 2004-1-7 8:24:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The thinking that as head of state, Saddam is entitled to special treatment is rubbing me raw.

Since Saddam was the law, we cant retroactively pass laws (not fairly anyway) which means an iraqi court cant try him in any meaningful sense. I may be wrong here, he may have broken his own laws...

He has broken international laws, but I have always thought international laws as being foolish, because their is no way to enforce them equally.

He has broken a slew of US laws, so maybe thats the way to try him.

I do believe we could arrange to just return him and see what an out of control crowd might do...

Posted by flash91 2004-1-7 3:38:57 PM|| 2004-1-7 3:38:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Isn't that just the SEALs? (Hell Week; I'm aware of the Rangers' own final crucible but don't know its name, and at last check Delta concentrates more on your mental aptitude, with a solid but otherwise meager physical.)

Posted by Lu Baihu 2004-1-7 3:56:56 PM|| 2004-1-7 3:56:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 We're talking about a sentencing phase here, not a determination of guilt. Head of state? Fine, you can have twice as big a firing squad as Chemical Ali.

Posted by Nero 2004-1-7 5:09:23 PM|| 2004-1-7 5:09:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I dont know about the Delta's (I think you could be mistaken here and mean the Green Berets, but I could also be wrong), but most other special forces have some version of Hellweek at the end of the trainingphase, it's actually a simulation of combat enviroment and therefore by definition more a test of mental aptitude then of physical readiness.

Posted by chinditz 2004-1-8 4:17:33 AM|| [http://chinditz.blog-city.com/] 2004-1-8 4:17:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Those that are not phisically proficient have usually been weeded out in the earlier phases of the process.

Posted by chinditz 2004-1-8 4:19:40 AM|| [http://chinditz.blog-city.com/] 2004-1-8 4:19:40 AM|| Front Page Top

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