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2003-09-20 Fifth Column
Clark: Freeing of Iraqis "major blunder"
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Posted by Katz 2003-09-20 4:17:43 PM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6509 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Sounds like Clark's having a John Kerry moment, trying to have it both ways. I expect the same results (i.e., dropping poll numbers).
Posted by Raj 2003-9-20 4:28:17 PM|| []  2003-9-20 4:28:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 The war WAS the leverage needed.
Posted by Tangara 2003-9-20 4:54:04 PM||   2003-9-20 4:54:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I didn't think it was possible but this guy is making Kucinich look like presidential material.

"I'm for the war? I'm against the war? Hey, folks, tell me what works here."
Posted by Matt 2003-9-20 5:33:34 PM||   2003-9-20 5:33:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Matthew Hoy - a local San Diego blogger (shameless plug) notes:
In reporting on Democrat presidential candidate Gen. Wesley Clark's flip-flop on whether he would support, the New York Times report spins like a Clark campaign operative.
Clarify his statement? This is nothing less than a full-fledged flip-flop.

Clark apparently wasn't pressed as to how exactly a resolution would have been worded that gave the president "leverage."

The Congress hereby resolves to give the President of the United States a two-by-four and a fulcrum...

I like that
Posted by Frank G  2003-9-20 6:56:19 PM||   2003-9-20 6:56:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I think Gary Coleman has a clearer view of American politics than Wes Clark, but hey he has the Clintons behind him ( watch out for the shiv in the shower Clark!)
Posted by wills 2003-9-20 7:00:21 PM||   2003-9-20 7:00:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 no shivs, Hillary leaves the gun out with a note a la Vince Foster:
"Dear Vince Wes- always loved you, now you need to do the right thing, for Bill and I"

probably has a stack of them to fill in, like Bill's copies of "Leaves of Grass" lol
Posted by Frank G  2003-9-20 7:05:28 PM||   2003-9-20 7:05:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "I’m a soldier," he said. "I’ve laid on the battlefield bleeding."

Does anyone know what he's talking about with this statement? I was unaware that he was a Purple Heart recipient; picked him more as a hair mouse type of general. This could be big if he was "Goring" the truth.
Posted by Super Hose  2003-9-20 7:20:33 PM||   2003-9-20 7:20:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 nah, he's got a purple star... he got it in vietnam. He's actually got a good resume... unfortunaly he's a huge waffler and obviously trying to play both sides. Something we don't need in a president right now...
Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2003-9-20 7:43:19 PM||   2003-9-20 7:43:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark reversed an earlier opinion that he likely would have voted for war in Iraq, telling a cheering college-town crowd the invasion was "a major blunder" he never would have supported.

Apparently, the people failed to notice that Clark had been out of sight holding his finger up in the air and turning it back and forth just before he addressed the crowd.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-9-20 7:47:37 PM||   2003-9-20 7:47:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Clark's real problem isn't politics, not directly.

What he suffers from is a severe case of General George Armstrong Custer Syndrome.

He IS bright, though not quite a genius, brave, skilled and able. But he has an ego the size of a small nation, a severe tendency to micromanage even when he KNOWS doing so will damage the situation in question, and he's mildly paranoid, distrusting all of his subordinates and many of his superiors, believing that while there's no real plot against him, they will still attempt to interfere with his "rightful rise to the glory" that he feels is properly his.

He wants, even NEEDS to be the next MacArthur, but unlike Mac, he intends to make it to the White House.

Trouble with that is he still trusts Bill Clinton and the Klintonistas, Hillary included. This is due, I feel, to his ego. He realizes that the Clintons DO dump people who are no longer useful, but he sees himself as far too important a figure to be used, then discarded.

Also, he believes that if they should consider the "use & dump" strategy on him, that he's personally powerful enough to ruin them in return. i.e., "You kill me, and I'll kill you right back. We'll BOTH die. So there. You're stuck with me."

His ego again, I'd say.

Posted by Ed Becerra 2003-9-20 8:14:02 PM||   2003-9-20 8:14:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 All right, he's bright, semi-articulate, and has a huge ego. He still doesn't have a microgram of common sense. I'm beginning to believe that there are two kinds of politicians - those totally clueless about common sense, and those with an idea of what "common sense" is all about, and may even have a pinch or two themselves. Clinton, Clark, Kucinich, Kerry, and Dean are in the first category. Joe Lieberman and George Bush (2) are in the second category. Ron Paul, btw, is in a class by himself, having DEMONSTRATED common sense - almost unheard of in a politician. What we need now is a "common sense filter" that will let us weed out those clueless politicians we keep getting saddled with.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-9-20 9:36:32 PM|| []  2003-9-20 9:36:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Ed Becerra,

I don't think he trusts clinton a bit... he's using clinton. Remember clinton fired clark and that's something a man doesn't forget. I wish he wasn't a waffler on this Iraq thing because I agree with so many of his stated view points. But I don't think I can vote for someone who's "opinion" changes with who he's talking to...
Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2003-9-20 10:28:51 PM||   2003-9-20 10:28:51 PM|| Front Page Top

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