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2006-11-11 Home Front: Culture Wars

On the Fall of the Wall, US Elections and Guatemalan Birth Rates

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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-11 08:54|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Not something I would aim to emulate:

In Guatemala, where women exert little control over their reproductive lives, maternity is a risky undertaking...Between 1980-87, the overall maternal mortality rate in Guatemala was 110/100,000 live births, compared to a rate of 9/100,000 in the US. Many of these maternal deaths result from diseases and complications arising in the perinatal period, usually epileptic seizures, bleeding, premature labor, abortion, and postpartum infections. In addition to the women who die from pregnancy complications, many more are left permanently disabled. Complications such as infections and bleeding often result from illegal abortions, usually performed in unsanitary conditions by inexperienced individuals. Abortion rate estimates range from 4%-18% of all pregnancies. Guatemala bans abortion, except in a few life threatening conditions, when approval must be obtained from a committee and a physician. In reality, only women who can afford a private physician can secure approval for an abortion. While a 1985 WHO report argued that family planning is the first step in preventing illegal abortions and reducing maternal mortality, the growing anti-abortion movement in Guatemala has also begun to threaten support for family planning.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=121592

Posted by Jules 2006-11-11 09:32|| 2006-11-11 09:32|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't understand why the Europeans don't work out some sort of deal with the Guatemalans.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-11-11 11:12|| 2006-11-11 11:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Yes, why not welcome immigration from South America?
Different problem, but surely less of an existential threat... populations who could assimilate more easily, common civilizational background... and if they ultimately become the majority, at least they won't erase our past because it predates the Master Religion(I don't care about 2006 Europe, but I value its past and achievements).

But it won't happen, even if the EU preaches for opening the immigration floodgates because of the coming european demographic winter... immigration from the east is already more regulated than immigration from the south. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-11-11 11:59|| 2006-11-11 11:59|| Front Page Top

#4 5089 - but consider the point of view of a possible Guatemalan emigrant - who go to a place of declining prospects, no hope, and filled with losers? Muslim emigrants may see themselves as the vanguard of the Umma, conquering new lands for Islam, but most people from south of the border don't see the situation that way.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-11-11 12:38|| 2006-11-11 12:38|| Front Page Top

#5 Most of the really poor Guatemalans live in the mountains because their ancestors fled to avoid having anything to do with European culture when the Spanish arrived 500 years ago. Many of them still speak Mayan dialects and have limited to no Spanish even today. I doubt you'd see many takers on an offer to migrate.

Unbelievably hard working people. It would be nice if their country straightened out enough to give them a fair shake and benefit from their potential.

Posted by Tholung Fleregum9501 2006-11-11 21:29|| 2006-11-11 21:29|| Front Page Top

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