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2003-11-08 -Short Attention Span Theater-

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Posted by The Butt Pirate 2003-11-08 6:35:58 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "To a greater extent than ever, officers will say theyâre not uncomfortable around gays and lesbians on a personal level. But there are still pockets of intense resistance to integration."

-Personal level - no. Openly serving in a professional military organization - hell no. Stay in the closet - harsh truth. I don't give a shit what they do on their off time in the privacy of their home. However, I (as an officer) cannot protect openly gay folks from the average warrior who does not or will not understand their lifestyle - nor should they be made to. The military is not a f*cking social engineering experiment no matter how many pc douche bags think so.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-8 7:10:17 PM|| 2003-11-8 7:10:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 My wife has always speculated that there are more than a few transvestites on ships for years. Should have never showed her the movie of our crossing the line ceremony.

To graduate from USNA your highest priority, other than God, has to be service to the country. Those who wish to serve the agenda of a special interest group need not apply. Nobody cares if you're gay or if you're the Grand Druid of you local Chapter of Wiccan Hermaphrodites as long as you shut up and do your job dependebly.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-8 9:38:40 PM|| 2003-11-8 9:38:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 ya know JH? It's not that different from civ life: I work for a major public West coast institution. I work with several people who we know are gay. They, and we , are cognizant of the fact that we like them for who they are, what they can do, not what/who they did last nite...is that so hard? In the foxhole/military theory, I understand why don't ask/don't tell works...at the end of the day we (civs) all go home to our personal lives - in the military - this is your personal lives

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-8 9:39:02 PM|| 2003-11-8 9:39:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 The thing that gets me is why someone has to make a big deal pubically about their sexuality. Why is your approach to a bung the defining quality of one's life? Define who you are by your life's work and personal character. The rest is just narcissism.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-11-8 10:21:45 PM|| 2003-11-8 10:21:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 All good posts. This hits home w/me as I have an uncle whose gay. (lucky my Irish-Catholic grandfather is dead, be turning in his grave) anywho, I still love the guy and don't give a shit about what he does behind close doors. Grown adult, his business. He knows my stance on gays in the mil.

If they want to serve within the confines of "don't ask - don't tell", good enough for me. However, (SH knows) from experience in the mil, there's no room for the openly gay 'flamer'. My other uncle (whose not gay) was in the Navy - use to say how known or suspected gays on his ship disapeared (i.e. mysteriously ended up overboard) during their floats. I don't advocate that at all - but on the same token can't protect them or the people that don't want to serve w/them. This is clearly a case of bending the majority to the outta mainstream's politics for nothing more then pc. The big picture is that it breaks down cohesion and esprit de corps among the lads. "If the action taken does not help success on the battlefield in reality - do not take the action." That's my belief on letting gays serve openly.

I've been lucky in my career to not have to really deal w/homos other than sending a few Marine recruits home who claimed to be practicing queers.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-8 11:28:08 PM|| 2003-11-8 11:28:08 PM|| Front Page Top

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