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2006-11-10 -Lurid Crime Tales-

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Posted by ryuge 2006-11-10 02:50|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Simple , devout Muslims shouldnt really be eating in MacDonalds anyway .. retarded double standards kicking in again .

I lol'd so hard reading this :

"Believing that McDonald's has a worldwide reputation for quality, and great respect for the dietary habits of their customers."

Im gonna rofl all the way to lunch on that ...

Posted by MacNails 2006-11-10 05:23|| 2006-11-10 05:23|| Front Page Top

#2 It was a mistake; no negligence. However, a Muslim co-worker once begged me for a sandwhich during Ramadan. Many Muslims embrace Islam by compulsion alone. Believe it or else.

Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-10 06:05|| 2006-11-10 06:05|| Front Page Top

#3 Im gonna rofl all the way to lunch on that ...

That's not fair. McDonald's does better for, say, low-fat food than a lot of supposedly higher-quality restaurants.

As for the story -- if you have dietary requirements, it's your responsibility to enforce them. Asking for something different is good, but screw-ups happen; if you don't look, it's your fault.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-11-10 07:45|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-11-10 07:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Hate to let Jasmine in on the secret. The same grill used to cook the bacon also grills all the other food. Then there is airborne bacon cross contamination. Then their is porcine environmental contamination of the water, soil, and air. Better not eat anything derived from them. (OK, so I don't as bad as first thought)

Posted by ed 2006-11-10 08:12|| 2006-11-10 08:12|| Front Page Top

#5 Now she is never going to be a virgin houri in Paradise, damned for all eternity by her inadvertent pork exposure.

Posted by Excalibur 2006-11-10 08:22|| 2006-11-10 08:22|| Front Page Top

#6 Question: if Muslims ran the entire world, then what would happen to pigs?

Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-10 08:30|| 2006-11-10 08:30|| Front Page Top

#7 This was at a Mcdonalds, right? So how do we know it was even real bacon?

Posted by Chailing Thetle3336 2006-11-10 08:46|| 2006-11-10 08:46|| Front Page Top

#8 She sounds like the veil-obsessed women in Islam-trying to be pure and holy as saints. Clue in, Miss Jasmin-Glenda Good Witch is a hard target to hit when the people of McDonalds, and YOU YOURSELF, are only human. Grow up.

Posted by Jules 2006-11-10 08:53|| 2006-11-10 08:53|| Front Page Top

#9 ..At the risk of starting a real argument, I'm a bit conflicted on this one - if it was a an Orthodox Jew instead of a Muslim, I think we'd be more understanding. Now, having said that - ed has a point; it should be clear that Mickey D's AIN'T halal, and anyone with an ounce of sense should have figured that out ahead of time.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-11-10 09:21|| 2006-11-10 09:21|| Front Page Top

#10 ed has essentially nailed this one. There are no vegetarian fry baskets or grills at any fast food restaurants. Cross-contamination is the rule, not the exception.

That's not fair. McDonald's does better for, say, low-fat food than a lot of supposedly higher-quality restaurants.

RC is quite right. Read the (admittedly McDonalds authorized) history of their franchaise titled, "Behind the Arches" by John F. Love. McDonald's pioneered many aspects of fast food preparation, from establishing standards for ground beef patties (previously made from whatever was swept up from the killing floor), single-handedly developing the cryogenically frozen hamburger patty and breaded fish fillet to literally inventing the frozen French fry (dubious bragging rights included).

In a time when fast food franchaises were sold and just as quickly forgotten, McDonalds set extremely high standards for site hygeine, consistent preparation and general food quality across the board at all locations. My own background in food service and management gives me a pretty solid appreciation for what they achieved in their timeframe of the early 1960s.

Of course, not everything is all (congested) hearts and flowers. McDonalds did conspire to conceal the nature of their transfat content. They certainly tightrope ethical boundaries by running ads suggesting that you eat their +1,500 calorie meals more than once a day. Most important of all to remember is that when McDonalds speaks of "quality" it is their quality standards (i.e., USDA, OSHA & HACCP regs) being adhered to and not necessarily that of truly well prepared food.

I heartily recommend the book, though. It contains some exceptionally useful insights regarding management practices and commercial enterprise in general. For instance; The original McDonalds executive board was composed entirely of sales people who had risen through the ranks and actually understood the basic mechanics of how to market a profitable product. The author wryly notes how America's boardrooms are now filled with the current gold standard of Harvard MBAs who, more often than not, have never done any heavy lifting in their entire lives.

McDonalds also made the majority of its profit from the land that franchaises were sited upon as opposed to the foodstuffs sold to them. This eliminated a huge conflict of interest that many other franchaises experienced when corporate profits depended upon jacking up supply pricing that drove franchaises out of business only to have the rights sold yet another time.

Although written in 1987, at the peak of McdDonalds corporate performance, the statistics about their company are still jaw dropping. As one accounting executive interviewed for the book said, "numbers like these simply do-not-compute". Such as:

* One in seven American people got their first job at a McDonalds.

* McDonalds trains more people than the US military.

* Rated as a seperate nation, McDonalds is the eighth largest Coca Cola syrup customer.

* Over 50% of the US population lives less than a three minute drive from a McDonalds.

* The ketchup served by McDonalds would fill the Mississippi River several times over.

Finally, there are hilarious anecdotes about how, for instance; When McDonalds was just starting, Kraft Foods refused to develop a more tangy cheese slice for their cheeseburgers only to lose what would become one of the single largest corporate accounts in all history.

However, the one gigantically important and instructive lesson of the book is about how their profits centered on property ownership. The mechanics of their site selection and buy-backs of privately held locations is a roadmap for any well built business and a stroke of genius.

As for myself, knowing how to cook well and how commercial food is typically prepared, I have not voluntarily eaten at a McDonalds in over 20 years.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-10 09:36|| 2006-11-10 09:36|| Front Page Top

#11 Mike wrote: "..At the risk of starting a real argument, I'm a bit conflicted on this one - if it was a an Orthodox Jew instead of a Muslim, I think we'd be more understanding."

Any Jew who kept Kosher and mistakenly ate pork would be upset at himself, and not the restaurant. I know this from personal experience.

Posted by Penguin 2006-11-10 10:10|| 2006-11-10 10:10|| Front Page Top

#12 This was at a Mcdonalds, right? So how do we know it was even real bacon?

It was probably that poor excuse called "Canadian bacon".

One in seven American people got their first job at a McDonalds.

Not me. Subway was my first job. McDonald's was second, third, and fourth. (Different summers; different location each time.)

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-11-10 10:16|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-11-10 10:16|| Front Page Top

#13 McD's in the US recently had to pay out a fairly impressive sum to Hindus who dicovered that the fries were being treated with some sort of beef-based flavoring. I'm not too exercised about this incident unless the Asian community starts demanding that all pork products be removed from McD's in Leeds or Birmingham.

FYI, Church's Fried Chicken was recently bought by (Bahraini?) investors and is now sharia compliant in financing and menu. Caribou Coffee is owned by Saudis and is also sharia-compliant.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-11-10 14:02|| 2006-11-10 14:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Her uncle, Nick Tillekeratne, from Slough
That's it. there should have been a beverage alert. This was a clean shirt too, damn.

Posted by wxjames 2006-11-10 14:50|| 2006-11-10 14:50|| Front Page Top

#15 Any Jew serious about keeping kosher would not eat at McDonalds or any other restaurant not certified as kosher, precisely because of the cross-contamination issues that ed mentions. It isn't merely the individual foodstuffs that are permitted/forbidden, but the cleanliness of the place in which the foods are handled and served. For instance, if the soap used to clean the dishes is not kosher, neither is the food subsequently served upon them, even if the ingredients are without question and the kitchen is sterilized daily. If Miss Athas didn't wish to be exposed to non-halal foods, she should not have even walked in to a non-halal restaurant. Some people whould not be allowed out without minders!

Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-10 14:56|| 2006-11-10 14:56|| Front Page Top

#16 This story just made my day. You know what really has Jasmin's goat (heh heh)...she LIKED IT. And now she knows what she's been missing the whole time and she's PO'd. I'd be too. I saw the postings on Sharia-complant. Is the like XP compliant? Should I be testing for this? Couldn't hurt...if the Donks get their way we'll all be Sharia compliant.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-11-10 16:32|| 2006-11-10 16:32|| Front Page Top

#17 A funny story about cross contamination.

In Israel, most large hotels offer big Sunday buffets in their restaurants, and they are very popular. Well, in one such hotel, halfway through a buffet, a customer noticed steam rising from the hot water warmers of the "meat" buffet, and drifting over to the "dairy" buffet.

So, they immediately had hysterics while screaming at the top of their lungs, which shut the buffet down.

To resolve this situation, and ones like it, there are committees of Rabbis that will come and examine the situation to determine if indeed a violation is happening. Such committees are very expensive, but the hotel restaurant had no choice.

The committee debated and argued for several hours before coming up with an experiment to determine if the steam carried contamination. They would precipitate the steam into a bowl, then offer it to a dog. If the dog drank the water because it smelled meat, then the buffet was not kosher.

Well, when they offered the water to the dog, he wanted nothing to do with it, so they agreed that the buffet was indeed still kosher, and thus the hotel restaurant could re-open for business.

The restaurant manager later confided to a friend that he had put a spoonful of Lysol in the water to insure that even if the dog was just thirsty...

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-11-10 16:39|| 2006-11-10 16:39|| Front Page Top

#18 Sharia-compliant basically means no pork, no alcohol, no payment of interest on loans, and the appropriate number of holy men and moose limb elders employed to supervise the scurrying of the infidels and make lots of calls to London, Damascus, and Kuala Lumpur.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-11-10 16:39|| 2006-11-10 16:39|| Front Page Top

#19 Judging from her picture, I doubt she is very devout. Probably just looking for some $$$'s. On the subject of pork, I'll be having a generous helping of the pork shoulder I smoked this last weekend, served up on jalapeno cheese bread, washed down with a COLD Shiners Bock! Burp!

Posted by Mick Dundee 2006-11-10 16:58|| 2006-11-10 16:58|| Front Page Top

#20 "Tease me", huh?
My bet is that she has a more then passing familiarity with "pork"...probably the sausage.

Posted by tu3031 2006-11-10 17:07|| 2006-11-10 17:07|| Front Page Top

#21 Mick Dundee, did you see the recipes posted in honour of Ramadan? What a pity you didn't add yours to the effort!

Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-10 17:08|| 2006-11-10 17:08|| Front Page Top

#22 Wait until she finds out what Jello and GummyBears are made out of....

Posted by 3dc 2006-11-10 18:27|| 2006-11-10 18:27|| Front Page Top

#23 My bet is that she has a more then passing familiarity with "pork"...probably the sausage.

Don't fool youself girl, it's going right up your poop chute...

Posted by Frank Zappa 2006-11-10 18:32|| 2006-11-10 18:32|| Front Page Top

#24 Well, when they offered the water to the dog, he wanted nothing to do with it

I wouldn't even ask a dog to drink the water from a steam table. Yerg!

My bet is that she has a more then passing familiarity with "pork"...probably the sausage.

None of that haram "hide the sausage" for Muslims. It's strictly, "cars and garages".

Mick Dundee, did you see the recipes posted in honour of Ramadan? What a pity you didn't add yours to the effort!

I'm summoning sufficient gumption to rev up the "Holidays at Rantburg" recipe thread series. I'll probably post it on Friday night - Saturday morning so that people can have more time to contribute (hint, hint). We'll be looking for that Smoker Pork Shoulder recipe, Mick Dundee! As for myself, I'll be posting my killer-diller Triple Sausage Red Wine and Herbed Sourdough stuffing recipe. I've seen people declare that they don't like stuffing only to wolf down a plate of this savory ambrosia. Dang it all, maybe I need to start posting this beast tonight!

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-10 18:34|| 2006-11-10 18:34|| Front Page Top

#25 Too bad male chauvinist pigs are not haram with muzzies.

Posted by ed 2006-11-10 18:44|| 2006-11-10 18:44|| Front Page Top

#26 Question: if Muslims ran the entire world, then what would happen to pigs?

Dumb question. Everybody knows they'd be fine because we need them to make toothbrushes.

Posted by gorb 2006-11-10 18:54|| 2006-11-10 18:54|| Front Page Top

#27 Just teasing!

Posted by gorb 2006-11-10 18:54|| 2006-11-10 18:54|| Front Page Top

#28 Just becaue no one has said it yet "you want fries with that?"

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