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2022-11-03 Economy
You'd Better Be Prepared for the Perfect Transportation Storm-Or Wow, Maybe The Sky Really IS Falling?
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Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-11-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ]  Top
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#1 What, me worry?
Posted by Alfred E Buttgiggles  2022-11-03 00:53||   2022-11-03 00:53|| Front Page Top

#2 
Posted by Skidmark 2022-11-03 03:20||   2022-11-03 03:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Ongoing rail strike is not resolved. Florida yes but not the rest of the country.
Posted by Dale 2022-11-03 03:59||   2022-11-03 03:59|| Front Page Top

#4 I don't understand the diesel fuel shortage. Isn't diesel fuel made out of the same oil, just processed differently? If there is a shortage it means we aren't making diesel because we hope to reduce the price of gas but at the expense of everything?
Posted by ruprecht 2022-11-03 07:49||   2022-11-03 07:49|| Front Page Top

#5 Oeld enough to remember 1957 when the energy experts proclaimed we only had another 10-15 years of crude oil and gas.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-11-03 08:01||   2022-11-03 08:01|| Front Page Top

#6 ^^^ That "peak oil" mantra continued well into the 2000's...so little oil the US was energy-independent until 20 January 2021.
Posted by DooDahMan 2022-11-03 08:14||   2022-11-03 08:14|| Front Page Top

#7 Diesel and oil are not refined one at the expense of the other. All of the petroleum products are in the same oil at various ratios depending on the type and quality of the crude. Lubricants like axel grease and motor oil are refined out at the lower end of the cracking column. Diesel is in the middle. The more volatile gasoline is higher still with propane at the top. Refineries aren’t making less diesel in order to make more gas. You get what you get out of the crude. I don’t know what the reason is for the shortage on diesel either.
Posted by Lowspark 2022-11-03 08:35||   2022-11-03 08:35|| Front Page Top

#8 *Diesel and gasoline not diesel and oil
Posted by Lowspark 2022-11-03 08:36||   2022-11-03 08:36|| Front Page Top

#9 and BioDiesel has nothing to do with gasoline IIUC
Posted by Frank G 2022-11-03 08:38||   2022-11-03 08:38|| Front Page Top

#10 According to Forbs:

Why is there a diesel shortage this year? There are four factors, but two of those factors are in play every year.

As mentioned above, distillate demand spikes at this time of year. But, it does that every year.

This is also the time of year that refineries are doing maintenance. They tend to do that in the spring and fall, which is when demand is lower and the weather is decent. So, refinery capacity drops at this time of year.

Third, U.S. refinery capacity has fallen in the past few years as several unprofitable refineries were closed. So, that’s a new factor that has appeared in the past couple of years.

But the primary reason is the cutoff of Russian imports. Prior to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the U.S. was importing nearly 700,000 barrels per day (BPD) of petroleum and petroleum products. Most of those imports were finished products and refinery inputs that boosted distillate supplies in the U.S.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-11-03 08:56||   2022-11-03 08:56|| Front Page Top

#11 We don’t have enough refining capacity. That’s the biggest contributing factor, by far.

It’s possible, though I don’t know, that the demand side has been impacted as well. Perhaps folks in the northeast stocked up early, the way the Eurooeans did, well in advance of winter, with diesel as a substitute for heating oil.
Posted by Oil Derek 2022-11-03 08:57||   2022-11-03 08:57|| Front Page Top

#12 That’s correct. Biodiesel is made from vegetable oils and animal fats. It can power Diesel engines but not gasoline engines. I’d recommend any prepped or off grid types to look up how to make biodiesel for trucks and tractors and such. It can be done at home. Refining diesel out of crude is not gonna happen in your back yard.
Posted by Lowspark 2022-11-03 08:58||   2022-11-03 08:58|| Front Page Top

#13 DarthVader nails it. Triple whammy. Supply and demand side, both
Posted by Oil Derek  2022-11-03 08:59||   2022-11-03 08:59|| Front Page Top

#14 My husband and I stock up on lubricants every month — go through em like shit through a goose, so to speak. It’s part of our Gay Pledge of Allegiance

Buttigieg husband recites LGBTQ 'pledge' with gay youth camp in viral video"I pledge my heart to the rainbow of the not-so-typical gay camp"


Posted by Alfred E Buttgiggles 2022-11-03 09:05||   2022-11-03 09:05|| Front Page Top

#15 Tsk, Skid. WWTWT?
Posted by Mercutio 2022-11-03 09:14||   2022-11-03 09:14|| Front Page Top

#16 WWTWT?

“Who wants the wet trousers?”?
Posted by Alfred E Buttgiggles  2022-11-03 09:22||   2022-11-03 09:22|| Front Page Top

#17 Biodiesel is made from vegetable oils and animal fats.

I see boatloads of wretched refuse,
eager to conquer, to confuse,
to add to the woes of your economy.

So to save yourself and the Jews,
get your SUVs to cruise
on chemistry and Deuteronomy!
Posted by Dron66046 2022-11-03 10:16||   2022-11-03 10:16|| Front Page Top

#18 Big truck fuel station on I30, 18 diesel pumps, dry yesterday.

Diesel shortage raises alarm as fuel logistics firm issues ‘code red’ in Southeast
Posted by Skidmark 2022-11-03 11:47||   2022-11-03 11:47|| Front Page Top

#19 I've heard that Bio Diesel has water condensation issues...
Posted by 746 2022-11-03 12:54||   2022-11-03 12:54|| Front Page Top

#20 I was just on the west coast and noticed diesel is barely higher than gas there, while it is solidly 50% higher here in Texas (diesel roughly the same here as west coast.) I suspect a significant amount of our east/Gulf coast supply is being sold to Europe at a premium price to replace their losses from Russia.
Posted by Glenmore  2022-11-03 14:22||   2022-11-03 14:22|| Front Page Top

#21 #16: What Would TW Think?
Posted by Mercutio 2022-11-03 14:29||   2022-11-03 14:29|| Front Page Top

#22 Thanks for the diesel info.

A few decades ago when I looked into Biodiesel it seemed great, and then folks in Mexico started starving because food crops were being used for biodiesel sales and suddenly nobody talked about biodiesel much after that.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-11-03 15:57||   2022-11-03 15:57|| Front Page Top

#23 WWTWT?
What would the wife think?
She sent it to me.

What Would TW Think?
She would chuckle.

Posted by Skidmark 2022-11-03 16:16||   2022-11-03 16:16|| Front Page Top

#24 I suspect a significant amount of our east/Gulf coast supply is being sold to Europe at a premium price to replace their losses from Russia.

The US exports diesel to Europe and imports gasoline. Not surprisingly, exports are increasing.
Posted by Angease Peacock5533 2022-11-03 17:34||   2022-11-03 17:34|| Front Page Top

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