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Obama & DNC Admit All Allegations of Federal Court Lawsuit - Obamas Not Qualified to be Presi

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Posted by tipper 2008-10-22 03:10|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 key bit, for what it's worth:

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania 10/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obamas lack of qualifications to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and tbe DNC ADMITTED, by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is NOT QUALIFIED to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President and the DNC shall substitute a qualified candidate. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-10-22 05:49|| 2008-10-22 05:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Once again, this is nuts. Berg is not a stable fellow: he's also a Troofer.

I'd suggest we back away from this silliness and focus on the issues that matter.

Posted by Steve White 2008-10-22 08:09|| 2008-10-22 08:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Steve, I sympathize with your comment but the history of the complainant has nothing to do with the case itself. Of course this should have been addressed at least 2 years ago.

This article is by Berg, for Berg, on his web site so it should be taken with salt (full, large shaker) until something better should come to the front.

Related conspiracy theory is that BHO is going to Hawaii to take care his birth certificate problem (and drop by to say "howdy" to granny before he throws her back under the bus).

Posted by tipover 2008-10-22 08:55|| 2008-10-22 08:55|| Front Page Top

#4 I don't expect anything to come from this, but I am very interested in why Obama hasn't released all documentation. It always brings up the question, "What IS he hiding?"

Posted by DarthVader 2008-10-22 09:46|| 2008-10-22 09:46|| Front Page Top

#5 WARNING FROM PAKISTAN

This morning, from a cave somewhere in Pakistan, Taliban Ministerof Migration Mohammed Omar, warned the United States that ifmilitary actions against Iraq continues, Taliban authorities intendto cut off America's supply of Convenience Store Managers andpossibly Motel 6 Managers. If this action does not yield sufficientresults, Cab Drivers will be next, followed by DELL and AOLcustomer service reps. Finally, if all else fails, they havethreatened to send us NO more candidates for President of the United States !
It's gonna get ugly!!!

Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-22 10:09|| 2008-10-22 10:09|| Front Page Top

#6 B, You need to get some rest, your just not right! LOL!

Posted by 49 Pan 2008-10-22 10:19|| 2008-10-22 10:19|| Front Page Top

#7 I posted about this yesterday. There are several points to consider when thinking about this.

Obama has never produced a birth certificate and filed to have the suit dismissed rather than simply produce proof of his birth in Hawaii.

Obama refuses to say which hospital (there were only two) he was born in. This is not "public" record and the hospitals have refused to comment.
Obama put a birth certificate on a website, but it was, by most accounts, clearly a forgery which could easily spotted by the naked eye. Why not just produce the original? Who made the fake?

Obama's Kenyan grandmother and some of his African siblings claim he was born in Kenya. His mother was known to have been traveling outside the US before Obama birth.

If Obama was not born on US soil, he would NOT be a citizen despite the fact that his mother was a citizen. She did not meet the requirements unless Obama was illegitimate. But even he was, he still has the problem of being foreign born and then later adopted by an indonesian step father, causing the loss of his citizenship.

Obama was adopted by his Indonesian step father. That means he had dual citizenship and unless he renounced it (which he refuses to produce documentation that he did) he may have dual citizenship which makes him NOT eligible.

Obama may have traveled to Pakistan on his Indonesian passport as an adult. He refuses to release his passport records which would disprove his dual citizenship.

There is so many layers to this onion.

The problem is that if he wins, and he's not eligible, which is highly probable since he refuses to provide any proof of his birth, then this is the stuff that civil wars are made of. Not all 50 states may recognize him as POTUS. The military is sworn to defend the "constitution" and the constitution is very clear. This is a constitutional crisis just waiting to happen.

This is probably the biggest story in the world right now, and NO one is touching it. Very strange.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-22 11:01|| 2008-10-22 11:01|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Betty 2008-10-22 11:02|| 2008-10-22 11:02|| Front Page Top

#9 Per Betty's comment - could this be the crisis, the manufactured crisis, that will test Obamessiah withing 6 months per Biden? Someone needs to press Biden on this - if he's hiding anything, he'll give it up, he's ot as smart as he thinks he is.

Posted by Rob06">Rob06 2008-10-22 11:51|| 2008-10-22 11:51|| Front Page Top

#10 I'd suggest we back away from this silliness and focus on the issues that matter.

Yeah, there is much better silliness than this. Like whether O!bama is the AntiChrist or not. Or did you mean actual issue issues?

Posted by SteveS 2008-10-22 11:53|| 2008-10-22 11:53|| Front Page Top

#11 In my considered legal opinion, this whole thing is horseshit on stilts.

When faced with a horseshit lawsuit filed by a crackpot conspiracy theorist, the first thing competent defense counsel does is file a Rule 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim on which relief may be granted. It's the most efficient way to make the problem go away. That's what Obama's lawyer did here. I would ascribe no significance to the fact that they moved to dismiss instead of engaging on the merits. If I were representing him, that's what I'd advise.

If we're going to beat this clown, we're going to have to do it at the ballot box. Engage, persuade, above all VOTE. Leave the crackpot conspiracy theories in the fever swamps with the Kos Kiddies.

Posted by Mike 2008-10-22 12:25|| 2008-10-22 12:25|| Front Page Top

#12 I'd suggest we back away from this silliness and focus on the issues that matter.

I would like to humbly point out that NOTHING matters to an Obama Follower. Nothing but "Hope" and "Change". They don't even know what it is that he plans to change... and they DON'T care.

Posted by Grenter, Protector of the Geats 2008-10-22 12:51|| 2008-10-22 12:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Do you contest any of the facts that I wrote? Just because the media hasn't repeated this often enough for you to believe it doesn't mean that you shouldn't make the most basic effort to find out if Obama has provided a birth certificate which he has not. The impact of this is HUGE. I don't doubt that ANYONE can understand how much of a crisis it will be for this country if it turns out, as it now appears it may be, that Barack was not born in Hawaii or that he has "dual loyalties" by failing to renounce his Indonesian citizenship.

It is hardly silly to demand that Obama provide proof he is eligible to run. So far, he has only moved to dismiss the suits, provided access to a forged copy of his birth certificate, and they have made the case that there is no mechanism in place to demand that he prove it.

Mocking those calling attention to this need to address the MOST BASIC requirement that Obama has so far refused to provide, does your country a disservice.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-22 14:43|| 2008-10-22 14:43|| Front Page Top

#14 Rules matter. Or, at least they should.

Had drinks last night with 2 (D) friends. Both are attorneys. Neither had heard of this case. I outlined what was alleged and the response was basically "so what?". I imagine that is how most of Bammo's worshipers will respond.

Civil war? Sign me up.

Posted by Iblis 2008-10-22 16:15|| 2008-10-22 16:15|| Front Page Top

#15 watch video here

"It is hardly silly to demand that Obama provide proof he is eligible to run."

I agree.

I mean, what's the big deal, anyway?

Produce the damn thing.

But OBAMA will not produce a real birth certificate. He refuses.

OBAMA will not produce his passport. He refuses.

OBAMA will not produce his university records. He refuses.

OBAMA will not produce his adoption papers.

OBAMA will not produce certification regarding which hospital he was born in.

The Obama camp is waiting. Waiting to see if he's elected, then he will appoint favorable Supreme Court justices who will toss out any challenge to his eligibility.

The Obama camp is waiting. Waiting to find a way to continue to cloud the issue so that anyone who associates with it is considered a "kook fringe" conspiracy nut case.

The Obama camp is waiting. Waiting for the "Big Test"TM, so Obama can look "presidential" (rather, dictatorial) and then things will be so bad no one will be looking at this issue.

It is our right as Americans to have this Constitutional question answered.

Ask yourself: Do you really want someone who is NOT an American citizen to be president?

The founders knew that foreign interests could more easily destroy the nation from the inside out if it were allowed. Allowing this farce is a clear-cut rejection of the US Constitution.

Is it any wonder Obama considers the Constitution an "evolving document." He wants to "evolve" it out of existence. He wouldn't wear the flag, he wouldn't pledge, UNTIL attention started to be drawn to it, then he reluctantly complied.

WAKE UP, AMERICA.

Demand proof from ALL sources. And demand it NOW. After all, we wouldn't want his mafia buddies in Chicago to get away with a better forgery than the lame one they were circulating before, now would we?

Posted by ex-lib 2008-10-22 16:42|| 2008-10-22 16:42|| Front Page Top

#16 P.S. I wasn't being emotional. It's just common sense. Obama's camp is already rife with the promotion of voter fraud. I think their presidential candidate is most likely a fraud too. It's no big deal to turn over your documentation. McCain did it.

Posted by ex-lib 2008-10-22 16:44|| 2008-10-22 16:44|| Front Page Top

#17 The Democratic Party is supposed to put forth only ELIGIBLE candidates. That is their requirement. If someone isn't eligible, they must choose someone else. They probably got on the Obama band wagon and found out "too late" that he is not eligible. So they're covering it up. And guess what--because we have a non-US citizen running, we have Obama and everything he stands for. That's precisely why the founders nixed it in the first place.

Posted by ex-lib 2008-10-22 16:47|| 2008-10-22 16:47|| Front Page Top

#18 It will matter to them after the election when suits start flying in all 50 states.

I suspect we will see citizens in all 50 states demand that their secretaries of state obtain proof of eligibility. What happens when he can not provide it? What if some states accept it and some don't? Suppose it goes to Supreme Court and they rule he is not eligible?

Apparently Berg is a troother and that makes it easy to dismiss him. The bottom line is that if Obama is not eligible due to the circumstances of his birth, which seems likely, it will be complete and total chaos until a resolution can be agreed upon.

So far, Obama refuses to answer the question of which hospital he was born at, to provide a certificate of live birth showing he was native born, to release his passport records to see if he was using his Indonesian citizenship after the age of 18 and is moving to dimiss these claims rather than to disprove them.

Just because the media isn't touching this doesn't mean there are not huge implications for our country if he is not eligible for the job.

There is nothing "so what" about this unless Obama can disprove the claims.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-22 16:59|| 2008-10-22 16:59|| Front Page Top

#19 well said, exlib. Great list of what is not being provided.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-22 17:02|| 2008-10-22 17:02|| Front Page Top

#20 "What happens when he can not provide it?"

What worries me more is that, once president, he'll easily be able to provide proof -- just like the Chinese easily provided proof of age for their women's gymnastics team.

Posted by Iblis 2008-10-22 17:43|| 2008-10-22 17:43|| Front Page Top

#21 I admist I am intrigued by this story, only because it doesn't seem to go away. And mostly because Barack is doing none of the obvious things to make it go away, all of which seem pretty simple to do. A fraud of this magnatude would have significant repurcussions across the republic.

Posted by remoteman 2008-10-22 18:00|| 2008-10-22 18:00|| Front Page Top

#22 Can you imagine the rioting of he's disqualified?

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-10-22 18:03|| 2008-10-22 18:03|| Front Page Top

#23 Can you imagine the rioting of he's disqualified?

Bring it on! Time to have it out once and for all and be finished with it, winner take all.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-22 18:26|| 2008-10-22 18:26|| Front Page Top

#24 only because it doesn't seem to go away.

It would be so easy to make it go away. So why doesn't it he?

Stubborness? Can't?

Posted by eLarson 2008-10-22 18:34|| 2008-10-22 18:34|| Front Page Top

#25 Or are they using this as a shiny object to distract us from the fact that Barack Obama is a red-diaper baby, whose proposals can't possibly work as presented.

Posted by eLarson 2008-10-22 18:35|| 2008-10-22 18:35|| Front Page Top

#26 eLarson, I originally thought that it was possible that Obama was using this as a red herring to distract from something else and then after conservatives went after him they would pull out his birth certificate and throw it in their face thus discrediting them on other claims. But it is too late for that now.

But it seems that he really isn't able to prove his eligiblity. The best scenario we can hope for at this point is just that McCain wins fair and square, because this isn't something that can be wished away. It is a requirement to be natural born. As I understand it, each secretary of state will be responsible for determining that Obama is indeed eligible.

Biden and Pelosi. Just in time for Halloween.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-22 20:00|| 2008-10-22 20:00|| Front Page Top

#27 IF Obama gets elected (yecch!) and IF it then comes out that he's not a natural-born citizen and IF it also comes out (and it will) that the Dems knew and kept their mouths shut....

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-10-22 20:44|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-10-22 20:44|| Front Page Top

#28 After he declares Martial Law and suspends the Constitution.... it will no longer matter.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-22 20:55|| 2008-10-22 20:55|| Front Page Top

#29 Right, B. The "BIG TEST" Biden yapped about will provide just the thing for him to do that.

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