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Good morning
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  3dc, re engineers. Capitalist society pays people according to their value to it. And engineers are not paid particularly well. Plus, they typically sit in God forsaken places. Other than that I have no problem with engineers - they are very useful. I drive on highways. Also fly on planes.
Posted by: General_Comment || 10/21/2008 0:06 Comments || Top||

#2  General Comment -
Dual!
Challenge!
Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2008 0:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Dual Duels!
With 2 affronts...
I want choice of weapon.
I want your name and place.
I want it to the painful death.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2008 0:10 Comments || Top||

#4  After all General_Comment -- This country is founded on eternal revolution and the concept that everybody is born equal.
You claim to be our better.
Die MOFO!
Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2008 0:15 Comments || Top||

#5  I see you are posting from a VPN at Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP

Link to the "about" for your law firm

Also, you likely live in New Jersey as you sometimes post from comcast there.

I assume you think lawyers are better than and more important than engineers and others esp financial lawyers. You are our betters even as you are in the feeding trough to such us for wall street bailouts....

I see Paul S. Pearlman is the manager of your firm.
MR. PAUL S. PEARLMAN (KRAMER LEVIN NAFTALIS AND FRANKEL L), (Zip code: 11753) $500 to JOHN MCCAIN 2008 INC. on 03/30/07
so... does he know you are posting pro-Obama stuff from his corporate VPN? Your boss is pro-McCain. hmm...


Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2008 0:41 Comments || Top||

#6 

I learn something every day on RB. Today I learned that the sun comes up shortly after midnight on the East Coast.
Posted by: gorb || 10/21/2008 2:08 Comments || Top||

#7  Lawyers have value? Who'da thought that?
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/21/2008 8:45 Comments || Top||

#8  They do Jack, mainly as chum, one you put them through the grinder.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/21/2008 9:01 Comments || Top||

#9  UMMM....excuse me, but did I intrude at a bad time? i'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE TAWKIN' ABOUT HERE. Whoops! Hit my capslock by accident. Now, wait a minute, what was I saying? oh,yeah, Nice gams. Continue playing children and be nice.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 10/21/2008 9:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Seeing he is my "better", my weapon of choice is noodles topped with red sauce (cooled a bit) at 10 paces.
He pays for it all because he is rich and say engineers should be naturally poor.
Broadcast live on Fox-News.
Not election related - just lawyer vs engineer.
He has to wear a suit and power tie.
I will be in my jeans and tee-shirt.

Since I am nobody and less than nothing to him.... I have no loss of honor being hit. He... well his clients might be troubled... I know mine will just think its funny.

So ... General Comment... ready?
Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2008 9:56 Comments || Top||

#11  In 1943, Madge ended her affair with one fellow by shooting him. She said that she only winged him, didn't intend to kill himm. She described herself as a crack shot. Thank God, they don't make many women of her temperment anymore. Most of us guys deserve to be shot on occasion. We're lucky that we aren't.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 10/21/2008 10:17 Comments || Top||

#12  I like women that shoot, as long as they don't shoot at me. Knowing she's a crack shot would ensure I'd be polite!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/21/2008 12:22 Comments || Top||

#13  Perhaps tomorrow's babe should be Annie Oakley?
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 12:47 Comments || Top||

#14  I'll take the engineer over the lawyer anytime. A world with far fewer lawyers would be welcome, particularly in this country. A world with far fewer engineers would be cold and brutish. Such an easy choice.
Posted by: remoteman || 10/21/2008 13:34 Comments || Top||

#15  Annie Oakley was certainly a character, Fred. She would have approved of Sarah Palin, I think. Miss Oakley clearly did not think herself in need of being liberated any more than Governor Palin does.

Given that movie stars and professional sports stars are paid a great deal more than almost all lawyers and engineers, I'm not sure that valued by capitalist society is the truest measure of worth. Nonetheless, it is perilous in a situation without outside cues to make assumptions about earnt (or unearnt!) income, anongst other things. After all, both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs could truthfully describe themselves as computer programmers with a bit of management experience. Too, those who work or live internationally tend to be quite a bit more than their job titles, I've found. (Those who stay at home, too, but that doesn't apply to either 3dc or General_Comment)

Come, gentlemen: you've done quite enough baiting for today. I'd much prefer to be impressed by the analytical skills and knowledge you've acquired in your worldly adventures. Although I must admit the image of spicy noodles at twenty paces -- so much more sporting than ten, don't you think? -- is quite amusing.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2008 13:55 Comments || Top||

#16  I must protest that lawyers are important to a smoothly functioning society, however fond I am personally of scientists and engineers. Done properly, lawyers protect the weak from being brutally overpowered by the strong, and force society to live up to its claimed aspirations. Equal justice under the law can only be enforced by those with detailed knowledge of the law, and any society worth living in rapidly develops a great many laws. The current financial panic is the result of bad laws written and enforced by the cleverly venal while the lawyers looked the other way. It will take clever and ethical lawyers, aided by ethical accountants and politicians to unwind this fiasco and ensure that those truly culpable are found and punished. Quite a few good and capable lawyers post here, and no doubt even more lurk, despite the abuse their profession receives.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2008 14:10 Comments || Top||

#17  Thanks for sticking up for us lawyers, TW.

I like engineers--they're some of my better clients, even if they do insist on reading every word in the document six times.
Posted by: Mike || 10/21/2008 14:34 Comments || Top||

#18  However we may debate the merits and demerits of lawyers and engineers, doubtless we will be blessed with both professions for many years to come.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 10/21/2008 14:37 Comments || Top||

#19  Oh I know, Mike. It has made house purchasing a bit more amusing than planned, over the years. ;-) Mr. Wife never signs off for his company unless he has clarified every word, which they apparently have some reason to appreciate... He deals several international companies for them -- I'll have to ask him if he's crossed paths with General_Comment's colleagues.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2008 14:45 Comments || Top||

#20  TW, note that I said fewer lawyers, not the eradication of the profession. Sadly, when there are too many lawyers, they can undermine a society by minimizing any sense of personal responsibility. I believe we are well past that point. We need to have loser-pays introduced for some classes of legal issues.
Posted by: remoteman || 10/21/2008 14:57 Comments || Top||

#21  And for the lawyers out their that think I don't understand how they think....

In the early 80s I wrote and service the wordprocessing/database/network/printing/mailing software that let, what was then the nation's largest law firm "Foley and Lardner", do their booming 80s merger and acquisition business.

When a document didn't work right I had to study it. From that I understand quite a bit how you and the courts reach decisions....
Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2008 14:58 Comments || Top||

#22  Oh, and I thought the Col at that firm was an idiot... no matter what you lawyers thought. Esp on his investment advice (Buy Corvus).

Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2008 15:00 Comments || Top||

#23  "Capitalist society pays people according to their value to it. And engineers are not paid particularly well. Plus, they typically sit in God forsaken places."
That's strange. I'm sure that the average engineer straight out of college makes more than the typical family does, and a lot more after a few years of experience. And in 32 years of practicing engineering, I don't believe I've ever had to sit in God forsaken places, unless you count airline seats.

Yesterday I asked General_Comment what he does for a living, but I don't believe he replied. How about it, General?
Posted by: Darrell || 10/21/2008 15:19 Comments || Top||

#24  Capitalist society pays people according to their value to it. And engineers are not paid particularly well.

Actually capitalist society pays people according to their capital production value. Not their value to society.
Posted by: Mike N. || 10/21/2008 16:39 Comments || Top||

#25  Yesterday I asked General_Comment what he does for a living, but I don't believe he replied. How about it, General?

The sun must still be above the horizon on the East Coast.
Posted by: gorb || 10/21/2008 17:04 Comments || Top||

#26  Maybe he got turned down by engineering schools.
Posted by: sludge || 10/21/2008 17:25 Comments || Top||

#27  Domestic grounds keeper here. I work for meals.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/21/2008 17:30 Comments || Top||

#28  Lawyers are the last defense for the common man.

Good lawyers will be the last defense for the common man against the Obot henchmen.

Look what's happening to Joe the Plumber.

The baddies have their lawyers.

Good people should voice support for good lawyers.

Think of all the business fraud they stop, all the criminals they prosecute and put away, all the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS they protect.

If Obama wins, he will first want to get rid of the lawyers on the "wrong side" according to his view.


Posted by: ex-lib || 10/21/2008 17:45 Comments || Top||

#29  The huge problem is FINDING, then AFFORDING "Good" lawyers, it's extremely hard(and very expensive) to sort out the bad from the good, I know of NO reliable reference.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/21/2008 18:53 Comments || Top||

#30  "Think of all the business fraud they stop, all the criminals they prosecute and put away, all the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS they protect."

Perhaps. What I perceive is that there are too many of them who should be gainfully employed elsewhere in the economy, and that they are too influential, especially as legislators. It is similar to a mortician setting up your health plan to benefit his business in the long-term.

(My apologies to morticians for mentioning them along with lawyers).
Posted by: Milton Fandango || 10/21/2008 20:58 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Attacks kill three Westerners, five Afghan children
A British aid worker, two German soldiers and five Afghan children were killed in Afghanistan on Monday. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the killings.

A 17-year-old meanwhile narrated how he had survived after he was forced to kneel in a ditch with five other men who were shot dead on Friday after being accused by the Taliban of being security force recruits.

President Hamid Karzai condemned the killing of aid worker Gayle Williams, who was shot dead in Kabul, as well as the German troops and children killed in a suicide attack in the north. In a statement, he said the murder of Williams, 34, who also had South African nationality, was cowardly and unforgivable.

The aid worker was gunned down as she walked to work at 'SERVE Afghanistan', a Britain-based Christian charity that helps disabled people. "Two armed men sitting on a motorbike shot her dead. Some bullets hit her body and some hit her leg and when police got there she was dead," Interior Ministry spokesman Zemarai Bashary told AFP. The attackers had fled and their motive was unknown, he said.

The Taliban, which has carried out similar assassinations in Kandahar, said it was responsible. "We killed her because she was working for an organisation which was preaching Christianity in Afghanistan," spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told AFP by telephone.

SERVE Afghanistan rejected the charge of preaching. "We have a specific policy against proselytising," said the London-based chairman of the board, Mike Lyth.
Doesn't matter. She's an infidel.
Karzai also expressed condolences for the deaths of five Afghan children and two German soldiers killed in a suicide attack in the northern province of Kunduz which the Taliban claimed responsibility for.

In a hospital in the southern town of Gereshk in Helmand province meanwhile, an Afghan teenager described how he had hidden wounded among the corpses of five men shot dead by the Taliban after being accused of being police recruits. The youngster, known as Shukrullah, said he was among about 40 men pulled off a bus travelling through southern Afghanistan last week and split into smaller groups. "The Taliban made us kneel in a ditch and fired at us. Five other people who were with me died and I survived," he told AFP.

Police confirmed they had found five bodies after six others were discovered Sunday in Helmand. They believe around 30 men were killed; the Taliban has claimed to have killed 27.

In other incidents, 10 Taliban were reported killed in clashes, one near the town of Lashkar Gah. The Helmand government claimed 34 had been killed but the defence ministry said only six bodies were found.

Unknown assailants kidnapped a one-time Afghan presidential candidate and a relative of the late king near his home in Kabul, police said on Monday. Humayun Shah Asifi, who stood in the 2004 presidential elections won by Hamid Karzai, was snatched at gunpoint while returning home from a dinner late on Sunday, Kabul Police Deputy Chief Alishah Ahmadzai told AFP. There was no claim of responsibility for the abduction.

"Asifi was returning from a dinner at about 11pm. As he was near his home, four armed men kidnapped him. His driver and one of his servants were with him when he was kidnapped," Ahmadzai said. It was not known who might have been behind the abduction but kidnapping of wealthy Afghans or their relatives, most often for ransom, is rife in Kabul.
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Two more German soldiers killed. And they weren't fighting or anything, just, you know, helping out. So the Germans will bug out in 3,2,1...
Posted by: remoteman || 10/21/2008 13:32 Comments || Top||


"I was trained to carry out a suicide attack, but I failed"
(AKI) - Source IRIN - Rohullah, 13, ran away from home in Gardez Province in southeastern Afghanistan to Miramshah in neighbouring Pakistan. Unwittingly he was drawn into a suicide-bombers' cell, and trained to use explosive vests to kill Afghan and US forces. Arrested soon after re-entering Afghanistan, he is now in prison in Khost Province.

From his cell Rohullah told IRIN his story. "I had serious disputes with my parents on many issues and as time went by I felt I could not tolerate that, so I escaped and went to Miramshah. I bumped into an old man there whom I had seen in our village. He took me to his home and I stayed there for two nights.

"After that the old man introduced me to a middle-aged man [Shawkat] and asked him to take me to a Madrasah [an Islamic school with free board and lodging].

"Shawkat took me to a house where about 26 other boys - some younger and some older than me - were housed. Shawkat and other men were teaching us about Jihad, Islam and holy wars, and at night they were showing us films about the cruelty of foreign infidels to Muslims, the bombing of women and children, and the struggle by the Taliban.

"For six days I did not know why they were showing and telling us all those things. Then one afternoon Shawkat congratulated me and said that I had been selected for martyrdom. He also told me that after the martyrdom I would enter Heaven and would be remembered as a hero.

"Shawkat and two other men trained me how to use explosive vests. They also told me that I would earn more blessings from God if I detonated my vest in a crowded area and killed as many infidels as possible.

"The arrangement was: I should go to Khost [province] and do the suicide attack. Three weeks later I travelled to Khost and met an intermediary who was supposed to give me a suicide vest. I could not carry a vest with me because of the security checkpoints. "But on my first night in Khost I was arrested [by Afghan intelligence forces]. I know I did wrong and I regret it. I miss my parents and my brothers and sisters. I wish I had never escaped from home."
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Experienced Suicide Bombers are getting harder to find these days.
Posted by: Woozle Unusosing8053 || 10/21/2008 8:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe they should try recruiting New Jersey lawyers. They seem to have the requisite lack of self-esteem.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/21/2008 8:46 Comments || Top||

#3  They also told me that I would earn more blessings from God if I detonated my vest in a crowded area and killed as many infidels as possible.

You know, that makes sense, because detonating the vest while you're alone definitively IS suicide bombing, but it's also kinda pointless, if you think about it.
So, they're right to emphasize this, as that finer point may escape some people!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/21/2008 9:17 Comments || Top||

#4  uhhhh, Kevin? Ixnay on the ogiclay? Allah wishes his boomers to remain pure by detonating in open fields
Posted by: Frank G || 10/21/2008 9:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh, well, I was just trying to be helpful.

Remember, my motto is "useless when I should be useful, a nuisance when I just should be useless". It has guided my life, and it got me where I am now, rock bottom.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/21/2008 10:03 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm certainly glad no one was killed, but I can't help thinking this makes him a loser on two counts.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/21/2008 16:22 Comments || Top||


Aid Worker Killed in Drive-By Shooting in Afghanistan
Two gunmen killed a female foreign aid worker in Kabul on Monday in an unusual drive-by shooting that heightened fears over the worsening security situation in and around the Afghan capital.

Witnesses and Afghan security officials said the incident occurred about 8 a.m. when two gunmen on a motorcycle drove up to the woman as she walked to work in the Kart-e-Char neighborhood of Kabul and opened fire with automatic weapons. The rapid-fire shooting left the woman crumpled on a sidewalk in front of a residential compound frequented by foreigners, witnesses said.

Zemeri Bashary, a spokesman for the Afghan Ministry of Interior, identified the woman as a South African citizen who worked with an international aid organization focused on helping the disabled. Bashary said she had lived in the neighborhood where she was killed for at least several months.

A Taliban spokesman claimed responsibility for the attack, saying the woman had been targeted because she worked for a Christian aid organization. "This woman came to Afghanistan to teach Christianity to the people of Afghanistan. Our leaders issued a decree to kill this woman," Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told the Associated Press.
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Arabia
Saudi terrorist trials kick off in Riyadh
The much-awaited trial of al-Qaeda militants, arrested for taking part in a series of terrorist operations across the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, begins today in Riyadh, a Saudi daily reported on Monday "The General Court in Riyadh has set up a 10-member bench to look into the cases of 70 terrorists including Saudis and foreigners," an informed source was quoted by the Saudi Arab News.

The militants were involved in terrorist attacks that killed 200 people as well as 70 security officers, the source said, adding that lawyers would be allowed to defend the suspects. The Arab News reported that the militants facing trial included two groups: those directly involved in the attacks and those who helped the accused by providing refuge, transport and funds as stated by an Interior Ministry official.

Saudi Interior Minister Prince Naif announced last week plans to transfer cases of militants to Shariah courts, the newspaper said. "They all will be transferred to the judiciary to give its verdict on them in accordance with what God has ordained to prevent sedition. We don't punish anybody except on the basis of a court verdict," the Arab News quoted the prince.

Last June, the Saudi Interior Ministry announced the arrests of 701 militants for plotting to carry out terrorist attacks. Some of the detainees, according to Maj. Gen. Mansour al-Turki, the ministry's spokesman, were planning to stage terrorist attacks on oil fields and other vital installations, the Arab News reported.
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Arabia


Bangladesh
Bangladesh deports 11 Indian insurgents
Bangladesh deported eleven suspected Indian insurgents between June 12 and August 22 this year in an effort to end cross-border terrorism and crimes, an un-named top security official was quoted as saying by the state-run news agency, BSS, on Monday.

The agency said this was the first time Bangladesh had revealed handing over alleged terrorists to India despite there being no extradition treaty. The revelation came after repeated accusations by Indian authorities and media that Bangladesh harbours Indian separatists, claims that Dhaka has consistently denied, the agency added.

The latest deportation brings to 120 the number of Indian 'criminals and insurgents' arrested by Bangladesh since 2003 and sent back as part of Dhaka's move to 'build confidence' between the two countries, the agency said.

The security official also said that 10 'alleged operatives' of India's outlawed National Liberation Front of Tripura were killed in an encounter with the elite anti-crime troops as they were infiltrating into Bangladesh's territory. He did not give the exact date and place of the encounter. India has erected a barbed wire fence along more than half of the 4,000km border between the two countries and wants to fence the entire border, which Bangladesh opposes.
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
Muslim cleric sparks X Factor terror alert
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/21/2008 01:48 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about an actual article instead of just meaningless links?
Posted by: gromky || 10/21/2008 5:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe if you click on the link it will take you to the article?

Just a thought....
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/21/2008 5:44 Comments || Top||

#3  What ever next?
Posted by: Max Factor || 10/21/2008 6:26 Comments || Top||

#4  The link is fine. No worries, Oz.

Gromky: chill.

AoS.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/21/2008 7:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Lebanon's a dangerous place, Omay. Lotsa bad shit can happen to people there.
Let's hope so...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/21/2008 10:06 Comments || Top||


Europe
Turkey: Another Istanboom, another security alert
(AKI) - A bomb exploded near a police station in the Turkish capital, Istanbul, on Monday. The Dogan News Agency said that the bomb was detonated in the city's Sisli district but there were no casualties. The explosion provoked widespread panic in the area but authorities said no one was injured. Turkish authorities were on high alert across the country as they feared revenge attacks by members of the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in retribution for the killing of 35 suspected militants by armed forces on Friday.
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
Pakistan: Fighter jets target pro-Taliban stronghold
(AKI/DAWN) - Pakistani fighter jets bombed a pro-Taliban village in the northwestern Swat region on Sunday, killing at least 47 people and causing widespread damage to local property. The air raid in the Matta district of Swat is believed to have killed a senior commander allegedly associated with Maulana Fazlullah, a pro-Taliban leader, a security official said.

Locals feared that the death toll might rise because most of the injured could not be taken to hospital due to a local curfew, and a number of people were believed to have been trapped under the debris.

Official sources said that 25 militants were killed in the air strike in Barthana and scores of others were injured. But eyewitnesses contradicted the official version alleging that homes had been targeted in the area, some 60km northwest of Mingora near the Peuchar Valley, a stronghold of militants. They said that jets had made two sorties and dropped huge bombs, causing "massive destruction".

"The bombing was so severe that it forced local people to start running for shelter, but the curfew and closure of the Venai bridge by security forces multiplied their agony," said a journalist who visited the area.

Some local people said that security forces had acted on suspicion that militants had been hiding in a mosque in Barthana.
Sure, where else would they hide ...
The area has a population of 5,000 to 6,000. Many families had already migrated to safe places after the military operation.
This article starring:
Maulana Fazlullah
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Yep, a curfew is sure gonna keep me under a heavy metal pattern.

Why no bunny and kitten count? Cause the paks did it to themselves?
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/21/2008 8:47 Comments || Top||

#2  The Mighty Pak Army motto: "When we do the shooting, anyone who runs is a Taliban. Anyone who doesn't run is a well disciplined Taliban."
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/21/2008 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Normally the Pak AF drops miniature bombs.
Posted by: Steven || 10/21/2008 16:18 Comments || Top||


Two injured in Quetta blast
Two journalists, including a photojournalist, were injured when a bomb planted near a gas geyser went off outside the offices of local newspapers in Universal Complex on Monday, police said. The explosion also damaged the windows of nearby buildings, shops and a medical complex. Sub-editor Abdul Qayyum and photojournalist Jamal Tarakai of Daily Awwam sustained minor injuries in the incident. Senior police and bomb disposal squad officials reached the scene and inspected the blast site. Civil Lines police have registered a case against unidentified persons.
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


15 Taliban killed as troops target Bajaur hideouts
Fifteen Taliban were killed as security forces used heavy artillery, fighter jets and helicopter gunships to target suspected hideouts in Bajaur Agency on Monday.

After the attacks in the Chinar, Charmang, Kohi, Babra, Zorbandar, Hashim and Loyesam areas of the tribal region, helicopters dropped pamphlets asking tribesmen to support the government against Taliban. Government troops now control Salarzai and Utman Khel tehsils and parts of Khar. Shops, banks, government offices and schools remained open in Khar, where the security situation has improved. Meanwhile, about 300 elders from the Salarzai tribe vowed to resist Taliban in their areas during a grand jirga held in Bajaur.

The elders said they would fight Taliban for Pakistan's sake and would not allow them to re-enter their land. They asked the government to launch development and welfare projects in the area to win more tribesmen over.

Swat: Seven Taliban were killed and another 10 wounded in a clash with security forces in the Shah Dherai area of Swat's Kabal tehsil on Monday, military officials said. A military spokesman in Mingora said the clash followed an attack by Taliban on a security checkpoint. Troops also used artillery to target Taliban positions in the area. Residents said several civilians were killed as mortar shells hit houses.

Taliban fired seven rockets at a security checkpost in Totano Bandai area of Kabal, but there were no casualties.

Darra Adam Khel: Security forces arrested five 'hardcore' Taliban including two commanders from the Peerwal and Kakakhel areas of Darra Adam Khel on Monday, a Frontier Constabulary (FC) spokesman said. He said they also seized two trucks laden with heavy weapons and ammunition from the house of another commander during the raids.
Posted by: Fred || 10/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP


Iraq
3 Iranian Revolutionary Guards arrested in Wassit
WASSIT / Aswat al-Iraq: Iraqi policemen on Monday arrested three members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard with their guide in Kut city after illegally entering Iraqi territories, a senior police source said. “Three Iraqi Revolutionary Guards along with their guide were detained on the border region between Iraq and Iran in eastern Wassit after entering Iraq illegally,” Major Aziz Latief al-Imara told Aswat al-Iraq. “The forces seized amounts of ammunitions found in their possession,” he added, noting that the operation ended without armed confrontation.

A Shiite province, Wassit, 180 km south of Baghdad, is in the east of the country. It lies along the Tigris about midway between Baghdad and Basra. Its major cities include the capital, al-Kut, and al-Hayy.
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#1  Just tourists, your honor.
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Iraq: Two killed, seven wounded in roadside bomb blast
(AKI) - Two civilians were killed and seven others were injured when a roadside bomb struck a bus in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, on Monday.

The blast took place in the eastern, Shia-dominated neighbourhood of al-Fadiliya, reported the Iraqi news agency Voices of Iraq. Police said the bus was carrying employees from the country's Housing Ministry. The bomb blast damaged nearby vehicles and buildings. On Sunday, two other roadside bomb attacks took place in Baghdad, killing at least two and injuring 27 others.
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Nobody likes Amjad Abu An-Naja
Gaza – Ma’an – The Al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, said they thwarted an assassination attempt against one of their leaders in the southern Gaza Strip on Tuesday. The Al-Qassam Brigades spokesperson told Ma’an that unknown persons planted a remote control at the home of Amjad Abu An-Naja in the Ma’in neighborhood in the east of the city of Khan Younis. Al-Qassam gunmen spotted the would-be assassins, fired and them and chased them away.
Scram, assassins! And let that be a lesson to yas!
The perpetrators were spotted again near the Abdul-Aziz Ar-Rantisi Mosque. They fired at the Al-Qassam men and ran away.
Where do you think they went, Mahmoud?
Just a hunch, but let's check out the mosque.
How do you do it, Mahmoud...

“A bomb was found in the area, and it was angled towards Abu An-Naja home. The attackers planned to detonate the bomb by a cell phone,” the spokesperson explained. De facto government sappers disconnected the bomb.
I don't know if I want any guys disarming any bombs near me with "de facto" in their job description.
The spokesperson accused “fifth columnists” of attempting to fan the flames of the intra-Palestinian rivalry in order to throw off the Egyptian-sponsored reconciliation effort. He highlighted that Abu An-Naja was targeted several times by Israeli forces who demolished his house. He also survived another assassination attempt when a traitor disguised as a merchant tried to sell him booby-trapped ammunition.
Maybe next time, Amjad...
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Southeast Asia
Terrorists kill five in southern Thailand
Suspected Muslim terrorists militants killed five civilians and injured six in two attacks in the deep South, police said Tuesday.

Six men on motorcycles, believed to be separatist terrorists insurgents, opened fire with M-16 rifles on a house Monday night in the Thung Yang Daeng district of Pattani, The attack killed three Thai Muslims, police said.

Also on Monday night, in nearby Narathiwat, assailants attacked a pick-up truck on the outskirts of the city, killing two Muslim men and injuring six others in the vehicle.

"Thai authorities keep saying that the violence is on the decline here, but actually, it's just the same," said Somporn Sangsomboon, a teacher in Pattani. "The authorities still can't secure the area."
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Sri Lanka
33 troops and 11 rebels killed in latest Sri Lanka fighting
At least 33 Sri Lankan government soldiers and 11 Tamil Tiger rebels have been killed in the latest heavy fighting in the north of the island, the defence ministry said on Monday.

Government forces also suffered at least 48 soldiers wounded and another three soldiers missing in the latest battles with Tamil Tiger guerrillas since Saturday south of the rebel political capital of Kilinochchi. The ministry admitted that scores of its troops had been killed or injured in fierce fighting with the Tamil Tigers, its biggest reported battlefield loss in months. Security forces also recovered the bodies of 11 members of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) following the weekend clashes.

Territorial claim: Sri Lankan government forces have taken more territory from Tamil rebels after intense weekend battles in the north of the island, the defence ministry said on Monday. Heavy fighting raged in the Wanni region, where security forces are trying to capture the rebel base of Kilinochchi, still about 10 to 15 kilometres away from the army's main frontline, the military said. "Troops have captured approximately half a square kilometre of land area from the LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam)," the defence ministry said. Aid officials who had rare access to the region said the Tigers had built a network of bunkers and other defences in the area, from where local civilians were evacuated weeks ago to other LTTE-held parts of the north. There was no immediate comment from the rebel LTTE, but the pro-rebel Puthinam.com website said they allowed troops to advance into their territory only to hit them with heavy fire.
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