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2022-10-16 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Scott Ritter, former U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq, is now looking outside the door when when he leaves in the morning and checking under his car. He was on a Ukrainian ‘kill list’

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Posted by Spike the Hairy6811 2022-10-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Didn't he always have to worry the anti-pedophiles would get him?

Posted by Penguin of the Desert 2022-10-16 00:19|| 2022-10-16 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 The headline was cut off. The remainder reads: "Ukrainian "kill list." So was Daria Dugina"

Posted by Spike the Hairy6811 2022-10-16 01:21|| 2022-10-16 01:21|| Front Page Top

#3 fwiw, Mila Kunis (played 'Jackie' on 'that 70s show) was born in the Ukraine. The family spoke Russian.

She supports the Ukraine in this conflict. Big time.

Posted by lord garth 2022-10-16 01:40|| 2022-10-16 01:40|| Front Page Top

#4 The remainder reads: "Ukrainian "kill list."

For some reason Rantburg cuts off that part of a headline following a double quotation mark. Thank you for supplying the missing bit, Spike the Hairy6811.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-16 01:58|| 2022-10-16 01:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Today, I’m a 61-year-old writer living in the suburbs of Albany, New York

Translation: I cannot hold a regular job and I am rapidly becoming irrelevant....even in my own twisted mind.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-16 02:52|| 2022-10-16 02:52|| Front Page Top

#6 Stepan Bandera, now there's a name Ukrainians adore.

Posted by Dale 2022-10-16 08:02|| 2022-10-16 08:02|| Front Page Top

#7 living in the suburbs of Albany, New York

Probably Troy. When I went to school there, the saying was "Albany is the @$$hole of the world and Troy is 7 miles up."

He'd fit right in for various reasons and in various ways.

Posted by Mercutio 2022-10-16 09:05|| 2022-10-16 09:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Elon Musk Alarmed After Apparent Inclusion On Well-Known Ukrainian 'Kill List'

Posted by Skidmark 2022-10-16 10:56|| 2022-10-16 10:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Stepan Bandera, now there's a name Ukrainians adore.

Yes, he was a Jew-hater, Dale. So was FDR and much of his circle, more than half of the British ruling class, and Uncle Joe Stalin. As it is again today, Jew-hate (and its close relation, hatred of Christians) was a fashionable philosophy on all sides of the spectrum.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-16 11:26|| 2022-10-16 11:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Re: Bandera. Kinda like, "he may be a sonuvabitch, but he's our sonuvabitch".

Posted by DooDahMan 2022-10-16 11:33|| 2022-10-16 11:33|| Front Page Top

#11 Yes, he was a Jew-hater, Dale. So was FDR

Um, please don’t whitewash this, trailing wife. Stepan Bandera supervised the slaughter of over 800,000 Ukrainian Jews.

Bandera’s slaughterhouse was part of what’s known to historians as “the Holocaust by bullets.”

From The Holocaust Encyclopedia:

MASS SHOOTINGS OF JEWS DURING THE HOLOCAUST

Nazi Germany and its allies and collaborators perpetrated mass shootings of Jews in territory seized from Soviet forces. This is sometimes known as the Holocaust by bullets. As many as 2 million Jews were murdered in these mass shootings and associated massacres.

Posted by Markus 2022-10-16 12:08|| 2022-10-16 12:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists march in honor of Nazi collaborator
Stepan Bandera led Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which fought alongside Nazi Germany during WWII, killing thousands of Jews and Poles

TIMES OF ISRAEL
1 Jan 2022

Posted by Markus 2022-10-16 12:12|| 2022-10-16 12:12|| Front Page Top

#13 Please do not try to whitewash this disgusting, horrific stain on Ukrainian nationalism.

“It is a sad comment on Ukrainian memory that the man declared a hero in Ukraine headed a movement that was deeply involved in the Holocaust,” writes Norman Goda, a professor of Holocaust studies at the University of Florida.

It is equally discouraging that Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany attempted to whitewash Bandera, a fascist whose crimes have stained Ukrainian nationalism.

Posted by Markus 2022-10-16 12:19|| 2022-10-16 12:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Not whitewashing, Markus. Like most of his class, FDR almost entirely blocked entry of Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi persecution, and in at least one case that I am aware of, sent a ship full of such refugees back to Europe, where they ended up sent to concentration camps. A dear friend of mine had relatives on that ship; my own mother and her parents had to spend the war in hiding in Holland because the waiting list to execute their American visas was so long — and only got to come here in 1946 because so many on that list were murdered in the meantime.

I’m not picking on FDR in particular. I have cousins who spent their childhood in a British prison camp in Tanzania — German Jews imprisoned among German Nazis, all Germans together in the eyes of the British authorities. And my father and his mother fled Jew-hating Latvia in 1938 to arrive illegally in British Mandate Palestine, because the ruling Brits acceded to the demands of the Arab population and closed off Jewish immigration.

Off-topic: I checked with Mr. Wife about your clever Russian laundry detergent. He says that he hadn’t heard about it, but the combination of Tide/Ariel and the Russian brand(s) produced by the Russian laundry detergent company they bought for its factory remains above 50% of the market, so P&G hasn’t been significantly impacted. But he’s pleased the locals are upping their game — all Russians benefit when they have better products on the market, regardless of provenance. This is why capitalism is a philosophical good, even if some make more money than others. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-16 12:48|| 2022-10-16 12:48|| Front Page Top

#15 Not whitewashing, Markus. Like most of his class, FDR …

Huh? We were talking about Stepan Bandera, the Ukrainians’ beloved Nazi. Maybe your husband never went to Ukraine. If he had, he could not have failed to see the thousands of memorials, monuments and other public references to Bandera. The Ukrainians worship him.

Bandera is to Ukraine as Robert E. Lee is to Southerners — except Lee fought honorably for a bad cause, while Bandera directed the slaughter of more Jews than anyone besides Hitler.

To be clear, I’m saying, do not whitewash the Ukrainians’ love for their Nazi hero.

(Ps Glad to hear Tide rolls in Russia!)

Posted by Markus 2022-10-16 14:38|| 2022-10-16 14:38|| Front Page Top

#16 The headline was cut off.

Perhaps your words are not as important as you imagine.

Posted by Skidmark 2022-10-16 16:27|| 2022-10-16 16:27|| Front Page Top

#17 ^ *snap*

Posted by Frank G 2022-10-16 17:30|| 2022-10-16 17:30|| Front Page Top

#18 The whole hall was howling in terror
As I worried the bloody Bandera
By some random limb,
And they all screamed at him,
The grim ghost of me Stalinist era!

Posted by Mad Eye Snoth6981 2022-10-16 19:39|| 2022-10-16 19:39|| Front Page Top

#19 Driven to Distraction, o, ¡Viva las banderillas!

Posted by Mad Eye Snoth6981 2022-10-16 19:43|| 2022-10-16 19:43|| Front Page Top

#20 ^ So the genocidal Jew-killer Stepan Bandera’s just a joke to you?

You’re a real funny guy

Posted by Cleang Spack2278 2022-10-16 21:08|| 2022-10-16 21:08|| Front Page Top

#21 ^ Friend, are you ever right about anything?

Posted by Mad Eye Snoth6981 2022-10-16 23:20|| 2022-10-16 23:20|| Front Page Top

#22 Bandera, FDR, Hitler, Stalin... the consensus at the time was that Jews were A Very Bad Thing. Some believed the problem was innate — in the blood/racial — others that it was cultural or religious. The only question among the many who hated the Jews was whether they should be sequestered, with or without neutering them so there would be no more born with the taint, or killed straight off. The Nazis tried first to drive them away, but when no one else would take them, including FDR’s America, then they moved on to extermination. And still nobody would accept most of the Jews who wanted to flee.

I’m not sure why you are fixating on one Jew-hating national hero when the Soviet Union’s leaders murdered between three and 8 million Ukrainians in addition to going after intellectuals, Yiddish writers, and the petit bourgeoisie (who were often Jews); and then there was Stalin’s Doctors’ Plot, which was supposed to culminate in the cleansing of Soviet society of not only full Jews but half breeds (polukrovki) — moving all who survived to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in the border of Manchuria. Fortunately, Stalin died before the anti-Jewish pograms began, and the plan was dropped.

Mr. Wife never did get to Ukraine, Markus — in the first years after the Berlin Wall fell it was considered part of the FSU market. But after Egypt he spent time in Saudi Arabia, satisfied after his first visit that he understood what it must have felt like in Nazi Germany.

Snowy Thing, thank you for reminding me that the ship full of German Jewish refugees that FDR turned away was the St. Louis.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-16 23:23|| 2022-10-16 23:23|| Front Page Top

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