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Lawsuit Against Obama Dismissed from Philadelphia Federal Court

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Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-10-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 I would like to add on admin bit. The judge's order had an extra fax time/date stamp on it, which calculates out to Chicago. This implies the judge received the order, signed it, and reissued it as his order.

This is not improper, as within limits, judges will often sign orders written by the winning side, giving them the precise language they want as long as it does not vary from his decision.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-10-26 00:19|| 2008-10-26 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Who might have ther required standing?

Posted by Bunyip 2008-10-26 00:50|| 2008-10-26 00:50|| Front Page Top

#3 I have to take issue with Steve's comments, as 'reporting the cracks in the liberal wall' is not remotely akin to 'being in the same league'.

I'll avoid extensive discussion on the issue, and give the floor to the mods on this one.

Personally, I would be extremely disappointed at Rantburg if it is promoting news censorship.

Posted by logi_cal 2008-10-26 00:53|| 2008-10-26 00:53|| Front Page Top

#4 Rantburg, censorship? Never!

I just can't wait until the election is done and we can focus back to the WOT.

Posted by Snavins Forkbeard5154 2008-10-26 01:50|| 2008-10-26 01:50|| Front Page Top

#5 So basically anyone in the world can write a bogus fictitious biography, post a forged birth certificate on the net and then run for the presidency of the US.
As Ayers would say America is a great country
Anyone know what the pay rate and and benefits are?
Might have a go at it next time around

Posted by tipper 2008-10-26 02:25|| 2008-10-26 02:25|| Front Page Top

#6 I have to give the Democrats credit. This a brilliant play on their part and it seems to have worked like a charm. Berg is a lifelong DEMOCRAT! He is the perfect patsy to put forward the case and then have all of the reasonable people say - oh he's a kook there must be nothing too it. Very smooth indeed.

Forget Berg.

Here is where you need to be looking:
Obama refuses to show his birth certificate. He posted a forgery on his website. He can't tell us what hospital he was born in Hawaii. He could make all of this go away tomorrow by simply proving his eligibility. But he does not.

Just my opinion, but I think you need to keep you eye on the ball cause the democrats just pulled a play action fake.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-26 02:37|| 2008-10-26 02:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Looks like his real birth certificate has turned up.

Posted by tipper 2008-10-26 04:52|| 2008-10-26 04:52|| Front Page Top

#8 I chuckled when I read Tipper's post. I hope I can still chuckle after election day.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-26 08:23|| 2008-10-26 08:23|| Front Page Top

#9 I don't find Philip Berg any more disgusting than the Westboro Baptists (my apologies to all real Baptists) or Cindy Sheehan or any other crackpots. Let's not get into censorship; let's just try to reduce the crackpot coverage to "Today's Idiot" levels.

Posted by Darrell 2008-10-26 11:28|| 2008-10-26 11:28|| Front Page Top

#10 Look, kids, there's no magic bullet out there. Some gadfly's pro se lawsuit is not going to make Obama go away. We gotta beat him at the ballot box, and we're not gonna do that by hitching our wagons to a jackass like Berg.

Posted by Mike 2008-10-26 12:31|| 2008-10-26 12:31|| Front Page Top

#11 This isn't censorship, this is editorship. Mr. Berg is free to spout off his idiotic views. We're just not going to carry them on Rantburg.

Posted by Steve White 2008-10-26 12:48|| 2008-10-26 12:48|| Front Page Top

#12 I certainly respect any decision you make. But please don't imply that I'm an idiot for pointing out that Obama, despite legitimate questions, is unwilling to produce his birth certificate and can't name which hospital he was born in. If he is not eligible, this is a formula for the biggest constitutional crisis of our lifetime.

I agree Berg is a fraud. As I said, I think he is the democrat's distraction. Berg is irrelevant to the obvious issue at hand. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. This one is VERY important.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-26 13:14|| 2008-10-26 13:14|| Front Page Top

#13 The important thing is for McCain to beat Obama on election day. Then everything else is moot, and the Democrats will have the opportunity to learn to vet their candidates more carefully in the future. Perhaps they'll even learn to make sure their candidates earn their votes in the primary honestly, instead of by community organizer style gamesmanship and intimidation.

The Cincinnati Enquirer endorsed John McCain in today's paper, the national polls are as likely to be wrong about the Democrats winning as they have been the last two presidential elections, and here in Cincinnati it's a crisp and sunny day.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-10-26 14:00|| 2008-10-26 14:00|| Front Page Top

#14 Lubos Motil recently learned of this controversy and gives his analysis, fwiw:

Obama: a natural-born U.S. citizen?

Even if you believe Obama's official explanations, there are still way too many questions that he hasn't even tried to address here and I suspect that he must have a damn good reason to avoid them. He also hides the documents from the college etc. Now, the population may be insufficiently mature to swallow some additional problematic things written in all these documents. But if there is nothing genuinely morally bad about them, Obama should realize that he is the person most vigorously protected by the media and others - in the history of America - and he should release all these documents, at least to some authorities.

So why doesn't he just release the damn birth certificate? Lubos points out that "Caucasian" and "African" on the short form we've all seen are "bizarre" for a birth document from the '60s.

Lubos offers a speculation on why Obama's holding out. Enjoy.

Posted by KBK 2008-10-26 14:24|| 2008-10-26 14:24|| Front Page Top

#15

Posted by Angeaque Prince of the Weak5335 2008-10-26 15:22|| 2008-10-26 15:22|| Front Page Top

#16 Read recently that a local report in Honolulu researched back issues and did find a birth announcement for him at the right time. Don't know if it's true but that was the gist of it.

Posted by Betty Grater7188 2008-10-26 16:00|| 2008-10-26 16:00|| Front Page Top

#17 KBK - the blog did a good job of explaining why Obama would not be a natural born citizen if his mother gave birth outside the US. The law is very specific that he is not a citizen were that the case. You can look it up for yourself on the official websites shoould you doubt it. It is not AT ALL like McCain's situation for those who think that this is what this is about. Remember, Kenya was under British rule at the time he was born and so there are lots of records about births and marriages available in both Kenya and Britain so it's not a wish it away type situation. And there is the issue of him being a dual citizen of indonesia making him ineligible as well.

Look, I hate to be such an alarmist but this is no small deal. I agree with TW that the best scenario is to beat him at the ballot box. But OBAMA COULD WIN! There are legitimate questions about his eligibilty and if he wins, you can expect 50 lawsuits in 50 states with possibly different results in all 50 states. It's a fricking nightmare scenario!

I don't know what to do other than to just say it is just amazing that this has flown under the radar for so long. It's easy for Obama to make this go away - but he seems unable to do so.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-26 16:08|| 2008-10-26 16:08|| Front Page Top

#18 Hot Air and LGF have also disowned this controversy. The Hot Air link has an image of the document Betty's looking for.

OTOH, Lubos has a link to what an original birth certificate from the period should look like. Why can't a copy be produced?

jpg of birth cert

Posted by KBK 2008-10-26 16:34|| 2008-10-26 16:34|| Front Page Top

#19 Heh, looking at that again - kind of demolishes Lubos' "Caucasian" v. "white" theory...

Posted by KBK 2008-10-26 16:36|| 2008-10-26 16:36|| Front Page Top

#20 KBK - it just seems so strange to me that LGF and Hot Air have disowned it, unless they know some insider information. But what I fear is that the democrats out-played them (and others) by having Berg (a sleeze democrat) pose as a anti-Obama person to get the information they wanted before a judge who they knew would dismiss so that most good people would say - oh...Berg's a nutter there is nothing too this. We've already moved beyond this.

If so, it was a brilliant move and right out of the Clinton/dem playbook. I noticed the guy who also brought the case up in Hawaii was a Chicago muckracker and he seems likewise unsavory.

But none of this changes where our focus should be: Why won't Obama simply provide an official copy of his COLB? Why won't he say which hospital he was born at? It would just make it all go away.

Here's another fear for everyone's fear closet. Suppose Obama gets elected and then it becomes proven (at any point in his presidency) that he is not eligible? Every member of the military is sworn to uphold the constitution. The constitution is clear.

Some say that the dems with their supermajority will simply change the constitution. I seriously doubt they will be able to do it.

The voting has already begun in some states. I honestly don't know what could be done at this point. But none of that changes the fact that, if Obama wins, this seems to be a train heading full speed over a cliff and we are all on board.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-26 17:33|| 2008-10-26 17:33|| Front Page Top

#21 Betty Grater - there has been much discussion about the birth announcement - too lengthy to discuss here. Again, why not just have Obama provide the official copy. BTW - Factcheck.org is an Annenberg Foundation creation. It's not up to us to follow the clues - it is up to all 50 states and the DNC to assure he is eligible. So far, they have not done so. That should concern us all.

Posted by Betty 2008-10-26 17:40|| 2008-10-26 17:40|| Front Page Top

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