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2004-10-06 Europe
Spain snubs US as France joins the big parade
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Posted by Bulldog 2004-10-06 4:40:29 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 no one is under any obligation to see the flag of another country in the parade

So I guess France has the OK to fly their white battle flag. Wonder if they will also parade their tanks in reverse.
Posted by 2b 2004-10-06 4:51:22 AM||   2004-10-06 4:51:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Just a piffle, but my snarky quote (snarquote?) "...peace and democracy'..." should read "peace and liberty". Wouldn't want anyone to think I was misquoting the Hon. dickhead Mr Bono.
Posted by Bulldog  2004-10-06 6:01:37 AM||   2004-10-06 6:01:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 What fools.

Under Aznar, Spain was a brave ally; after the 3/11 bombings, I ascribed their withdrawal to a failure of nerve; but anymore, my view of the Spanish is once again informed by the portrayal of the Spanish waiter in Fawlty Towers.

Idiots.
Posted by Dave D. 2004-10-06 7:36:39 AM||   2004-10-06 7:36:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 France and Spain, coalition of the scared, stupid and spineless.

Posted by JerseyMike 2004-10-06 10:03:34 AM||   2004-10-06 10:03:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh no! We can't be in their parade? Oh no!
Guess they showed us.
Posted by tu3031 2004-10-06 10:09:02 AM||   2004-10-06 10:09:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I wonder if the Muslims will "unveil" their new plan, to take steps to implement Sharia within the Spainish, French and Canadian governments, during the parade.
Posted by 2b 2004-10-06 10:19:13 AM||   2004-10-06 10:19:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I! Can speaka English!
English! I can speak English!
Posted by Shipman 2004-10-06 10:27:41 AM||   2004-10-06 10:27:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Spain peaked with the Armada.
Posted by RWV 2004-10-06 10:30:21 AM||   2004-10-06 10:30:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 BFD. Good we wont be spending any money on that.
If Spain wants to be under France's heel I say good on them.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-10-06 10:30:43 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-10-06 10:30:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, Dave. But at least Manuel had a good heart.

Jose Bono told the COPE radio station there would be no Americans in this year’s "fiesta nacional" which commemorates the day on which Christopher Columbus sighted the New World...

They are celebrating the discovery of the new world but are snubbing the actual new world. Yep-sophisticated Euro thought at its best.
Posted by jules 187 2004-10-06 10:36:37 AM||   2004-10-06 10:36:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Spain, France, most of Europe = has been.

I really believe Islam is invading Europe in a very smart way. They are being patient about it, taking gererations to do it. They will integrate and dominate Europe in the next 75 years and they will succeed at it because they are not constrained by the sanctamonious view that political correctness directly corrolates to civility.
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-10-06 10:41:28 AM||   2004-10-06 10:41:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 "Big Parade" is about right. A big party under the big circus tent led by the world's greatest clowns. I wonder if Anzar will honk Chirac's big red nose. Too bad Bill Clinton isn't still around - a regular Ruldoph, he was.
Posted by 2b 2004-10-06 10:41:47 AM||   2004-10-06 10:41:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 I wish Spain well, but have no desire at this juncture to either help or hinder them in any endeavor, nor to patronize them in any sort. The Spanish wil decide whether it wants to fight for western civilization, or not, when the battle for al-Andalus is joined. Either way, Americans should stay out of it, except to make money. If they win, well good for them. If not, then my grand and great-grand kids will take it back and colonize it for America. Either way, we win.
Posted by ed 2004-10-06 10:57:38 AM||   2004-10-06 10:57:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 The re-reconquista of Al-Andalus, one step closer to reality.
Posted by lex 2004-10-06 12:13:31 PM||   2004-10-06 12:13:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I wish Spain well, but have no desire at this juncture to either help or hinder them in any endeavor, nor to patronize them in any sort. The Spanish wil decide whether it wants to fight for western civilization, or not, when the battle for al-Andalus is joined. Either way, Americans should stay out of it

Amen. Time to admit that the notion of "the West," as a coherent entity unified in the face of a mortal threat, no longer has much meaning. Spain does not share our moral universe. Aznar was a giant in a nation of pygmies.

Let NATO die a quiet death. Start instead to forge significant bilateral and regional alliances with truly serious nations that recognize the threat and are willing to project power alongside the US into the jiahdists' home turf.
Posted by lex 2004-10-06 12:26:16 PM||   2004-10-06 12:26:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 To quote Lewis Grizzard (A Great American), "Spain!? Spain couldn't beat Vanderbilt, for God's sake."

This is not really a new development in the U.S. - European relations. Read Kissinger's Years of Upheaval regarding U.S. attempts to become closer allies to European countries, to actually make them more important. France put up all kinds of obstacles and the U.S. was seen as trying to subvert European soveriegnty. It would seem they still haven't gotten over their collective inferiority complex.
Posted by Psycho Hillbilly 2004-10-06 1:28:18 PM||   2004-10-06 1:28:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 I think we need to distinguish between Spain (which is really a very nice country since they finally tossed out the fascists), and the current Spanish Government, which is a bunch of lily-livered commies/socialists of the worst sort.

Give 'em a few years, they'll wake up.
Posted by mojo  2004-10-06 1:32:24 PM||   2004-10-06 1:32:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Isolation does not work. Appeasment of the terrorist does work. I doubt that 3/11 is the end of terrorism for them.
Posted by John (Q. Citizen) 2004-10-06 1:49:13 PM||   2004-10-06 1:49:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Now that Aznar is over here, perhaps we can get him to form a Espana Libre government to oppose the Vichy government ruling over there.
Posted by jackal  2004-10-06 4:04:55 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2004-10-06 4:04:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 The Spanish government snubbed the United States yesterday by cancelling an annual invitation to US troops to join the celebrations of Spain’s national holiday parade and instead invited French soldiers to Madrid.

If by this Spain is insinuating that they'd rather the French assist them in any future conflict, I don't have a problem with it. Good luck, boys.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-10-06 11:58:12 PM||   2004-10-06 11:58:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Wasn't the Aznar administration more of the exception than the rule?
Posted by Super Hose 2004-10-07 12:23:25 AM||   2004-10-07 12:23:25 AM|| Front Page Top

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