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2012-09-13 Britain

Gun used on al-Hilli is Serbian Mafia's signature weapon

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Posted by phil_b 2012-09-13 04:29|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 CZ VZ-61

Posted by Besoeker 2012-09-13 08:39|| 2012-09-13 08:39|| Front Page Top

#2 it fires a heavy bullet (7.65 mm) with considerable stopping power Uhhh, a .380?

Posted by Skidmark 2012-09-13 09:26|| 2012-09-13 09:26|| Front Page Top

#3 Nope. .380 is also known as 9mm short.

Posted by mojo 2012-09-13 10:31|| 2012-09-13 10:31|| Front Page Top

#4 The 7.65mm cartridge is known here as .32 ACP. It is somewhat weaker than .380 ACP, and the bullet usually fired is either 60 or 72 grains, whereas .380 is 90-102 grains. Most US of A defensive pistol instructors do not consider the .32 ACP to be an adequate defensive cartridge. It's better than no bullet at all, but definitely not a one-shot stopper.

Posted by Rivrdog 2012-09-13 11:04|| http://rivrdog.typepad.com 2012-09-13 11:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Which is why it has the 3-round burst mode.

Posted by mojo 2012-09-13 12:24|| 2012-09-13 12:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Review from site linked above:

First off this a very expensive impractical pistol for range fun only. You cant do anything with it but have fun so its the only downside also .32 ammo is insane money to spend on a range gun too. Have to order it on special no walmart for you. Walmart only carries Remington .32 for $22 for 50rds. The gun breaks down like a dream. Only 1 piece bolt carrier. The gun has practically no recoil. A 3pd gun shooting that tiny .32 is like a lightweight .22 pistol. Reduce it a lot more if you hold the mag like a grip. I was able to hit all my bottles at 25 yards and hit them as well 50 yards out. The sights are rated for 75 and 150. And they were not lying. Best pistol I own, favorite weapon period.

Posted by gromky 2012-09-13 12:41|| 2012-09-13 12:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Yeah, it's a machine pistol, not a pistol, so evaluate its merits according to other machine pistols, not the Colt 1911.

Posted by gromky 2012-09-13 12:42|| 2012-09-13 12:42|| Front Page Top

#8 The .32 ACP round is an excellent round for up close and personal wet work. Sub-sonic and in a properly suppressed weapon virtually silent. All you hear basically is the action working. Headshots work best. Depending on proximity to the target, over penetration can be an issue.

Posted by Secret Asian Man 2012-09-13 14:40|| 2012-09-13 14:40|| Front Page Top

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