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2004-09-06 China-Japan-Koreas
Taiwan: Air force spy ring cracked by military
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Posted by .com 2004-09-06 12:27:45 AM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Couldn't they have bought the info more cheaply from the French?
Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-09-06 12:47:46 AM||   2004-09-06 12:47:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The Taiwanese counterpart to sKerry has been found out.
Posted by Capt America  2004-09-06 1:10:00 AM|| [http://captamerica.blogspot.com/]  2004-09-06 1:10:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 With apologies to whomever it was here at Rantburg that originally came up with this idea:

Isn't this whole Taiwan - China thang a lot like the Israeli - Arab conflict?

Here we have this tiny little island with 1/50th the population of mainland China that, nonetheless, gets the politburo into a frothy full-cream lather at every turn.

A functional superpower government and economy (keyword: functional) would merely look the other way and ignore the presence of such a non-threat. Instead, we are treated to the most insane psycho-babble since Baghdad Bob over a diminutive off-shore nation that somehow manages to be the 18th economy in the world by way of democracy and free market capitalism.

Go figure.
Posted by Zenster 2004-09-06 1:51:14 AM||   2004-09-06 1:51:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 CL, the Taiwanese may have done some mods (I have no 1st, 2nd or 3rd hand info on that).
Posted by Steve White  2004-09-06 2:02:41 AM||   2004-09-06 2:02:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The situation in Taiwan seems to me to be a schitzophrenic condition of the Chicoms. On one hand, elements in the Chinese govt want to modernize and move past the Maoist model. Trade and investment by Taiwan is heavily into the PRC. Heck, in decades Taiwan will be so intertwined with the PRC economically that they will be in essence absorbed into the PRC. All the Chicoms need is patience.

On the other hand, the People's Liberation Army guys are rattling their swords and threatening invasion. If that happened, the PRC could lose everything, and they would destroy Golden Goose Taiwan, to boot. That's the way I see it.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-09-06 10:07:12 AM||   2004-09-06 10:07:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 The other Golden Goose, you mean? I read somewhere that the economic value of the Hong Kong Golden Goose has fallen by over 25% in productivity and the value of the industries and business based there since the takeover. Slow strangulation by morons who would hold it so tight as to crush it. Picture the idiot child given a new puppy for companionship... weekly.
Posted by .com 2004-09-06 10:16:28 AM||   2004-09-06 10:16:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 .com---it seems that the ChiComs could not leave well enough alone with Hong Kong, too. They cannot have it both ways. They could win the battles and still lose the war, so to speak.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-09-06 10:21:24 AM||   2004-09-06 10:21:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I have a friend who has finally emigrated to Singapore - a very Sr Banking professional with 40 yrs experience in HK banks - and they were loathe to let him go. There is a serious brain-drain of the best-experienced, and thus best compensated - something the ChiComms don't "get" quite yet. At the last minute they tried to buy him off with a massive house, servants, limo, etc - and he said that he told them he could have all of that, easily, without any strings or spies or overloads (his word - I wonder how that translates in Mandarin, heh) - so no thanks. He was worried that they would renege on letting him go, but he already had his passport in hand and had booked a flight to Macao and onward "in secret" - which means a bribe of some size. He left almost everything there in place, so they were caught flat-footed. I know him through an odd set of circumstances which culminated in my providing him with email boxes that they had no way to trace or connect to him since just before the takeover. Not much, but he appreciated it and I felt great doing it. I want to see them implode - and be hung from the lampposts.
Posted by .com 2004-09-06 10:32:03 AM||   2004-09-06 10:32:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Shit - "overlords".
Posted by .com 2004-09-06 10:33:06 AM||   2004-09-06 10:33:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 .com---your friend did the right thing. You can always build another fortune, but you can't always get your ass back. My roomate in college had grandparents that were wealthy Jewish industrialists in Germany. They saw the handwriting on the wall, so they got everything prepared and went on a holiday to England in the 30s. Even the servants did not know. Left everything behind. I imagine that they had some Swiss accounts, but did not move all the money. Got out while the getting was good.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-09-06 11:11:07 AM||   2004-09-06 11:11:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm worried about HK. One of my very best research techs ever was born there, has family still there in the shipping biz. She went to Canadian and American boarding schools, got her undergrad degree right here at U of C, and wrote a first-author paper from my lab. She's now in med school in Australia and doing great. I'd like to see her become an American citizen, but she's very concerned about leaving HK behind completely while her family is there.
Posted by Steve White  2004-09-06 12:56:18 PM||   2004-09-06 12:56:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 The world community needs to clearly understand that Hong Kong is the canary in the mineshaft. What happens there is what to expect from any other foreign entities being brought into communist China's withering embrace. China's politburo has never been able to abandon the "looting" mentality handed down to them from the Maoist era. Hong Kong is a perfect demonstration of it and we do not need to test this theory all over again with Taiwan.
Posted by Zenster 2004-09-06 2:20:19 PM||   2004-09-06 2:20:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 and wrote a first-author paper from my lab.

You have a lab? Now I'm afraid. Not really tho! Ha ha! Nope. Labs are good.
Posted by Shipman 2004-09-06 2:35:54 PM||   2004-09-06 2:35:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Ship, "The Lab" is where the Army of Steve (tm) uber-RBers are created.
Posted by Carl in N.H.  2004-09-06 9:03:14 PM||   2004-09-06 9:03:14 PM|| Front Page Top

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