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2021-08-11 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Houston hospital system erects TENTS to deal with surge in COVID cases as intensive care units are swamped: Austin and Dallas schools defy Gov Greg Abbott and implement new mask mandates
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Posted by Skidmark 2021-08-11 00:21|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ]  Top

#1 Austin and Dallas schools defy Gov Greg Abbott and implement new mask mandates

Idiots should be defied. And, on Covid, Republicans are idiots - letting the tail (a small group of "fundamentalist conservatives") wag the dog.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 03:30||   2021-08-11 03:30|| Front Page Top

#2 ...no, its more of the product of the health community lying for over a year, trashing the fundamentals of proper data gathering, and flip flopping more than a fish on the boat deck. No preface with "We don't know for sure, but" before making fiats to shut down life for most people. Don't give me hospitalization numbers now, give me the fatality count.
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-11 06:34||   2021-08-11 06:34|| Front Page Top

#3 ^Oh yes, your federal agencies are supposed to be omniscient - otherwise they must be opposed (and they're all Democrats, anyway).
Newsflash - they did the best they could under the circumstances. And, your Republican/"Libertarian" experts did the worst they could.
And that's what happens to a country where politics become a clash of mutually exclusive ideologies.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 07:28||   2021-08-11 07:28|| Front Page Top

#4 As the truly savvy grifters see the end of the scam in sight, they needed to get these tent rental contracts out there toot suite...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 07:30||   2021-08-11 07:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Big business begins to turn the corner...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 07:32||   2021-08-11 07:32|| Front Page Top

#6 #3 We just recently found out the CDC test for Covid also tests positive for flu. Did they put that out last year? Why not? The whole basis of data collection for analysis and scientific interpretation was trash.
Look again, no I don't expect them to be omniscient, but honest. When they're guessing, let the people know they're not sure. It doesn't help one bit when honest scientific opinion is censored by those in power.
And I certainly have no confidence in a man who funded the bio-warfare studies in a foreign country to skirt American law to have any say in the process because he is absolutely compromised. He's in full CYA and 'squirrel' mode.

As for the kids...back to proper data collection once again being ignored.
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-11 07:53||   2021-08-11 07:53|| Front Page Top

#7 /\ And I certainly have no confidence in a man who funded the bio-warfare studies in a foreign country

Or confidence in the government who has him in their employment.


Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-11 07:55||   2021-08-11 07:55|| Front Page Top

#8 #6 Look P2k, you know I respect you - and I don't respect many. But, don't you notice the creeping Manicheanism - anything Democrats/Federales do/say comes from the devil and must be opposed.?
Be honest, don't you find anti-mask arguments infantile?
How about MDs who think "mRNA" is genetic engineering?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 08:01||   2021-08-11 08:01|| Front Page Top

#9 ^And if we discuss vaccination - think your side would've won the Revolutionary war without Washington vaccinating the Army of the Potomac?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 08:03||   2021-08-11 08:03|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, the thing about history is, it's as speculative as the future. It happened as it did and swearing up and down a single factor was definitive give serious historians a belly laugh.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 08:09||   2021-08-11 08:09|| Front Page Top

#11 As for leftists, they are dogma all the way down. If they like vaccination, it's not because its a practical necessity or a good idea. It's because they have decided it's a vehicle to advance The Cause™. People genetically inclined to vote left can't see that any better than a vampire can see its reflection in a mirror.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 08:13||   2021-08-11 08:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Speaks for itself....
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 08:23||   2021-08-11 08:23|| Front Page Top

#13 Grom, 'Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?'
Posted by Glenmore 2021-08-11 09:59||   2021-08-11 09:59|| Front Page Top

#14 ^Wasn't it the French?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 10:01||   2021-08-11 10:01|| Front Page Top

#15 Rand Paul is right: *resist*. I won't be masking up for anyone this time around. I masked up only to shop last time around.

Grom--you're little spineless weasel. If you want to live the rest of your worthless life in a cave wearing a rag all by yourself, have at it.
Posted by Crusader 2021-08-11 10:08||   2021-08-11 10:08|| Front Page Top

#16 ^And you are a great hero - on the Internet.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 10:18||   2021-08-11 10:18|| Front Page Top

#17 The COVID religion is dying now. Just as Stalin mis-predicted about capitalism, the believers will not go out gently...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 10:25||   2021-08-11 10:25|| Front Page Top

#18 LBJ hospital in Houston is the charity hospital, and is about 10 minutes from swamped under the best of circumstances. It's sort of the "St Elsewhere" of Houston. No insurance or medicare? The ambulance goes to LBJ.
Posted by ed in texas 2021-08-11 10:35||   2021-08-11 10:35|| Front Page Top

#19 LBJ serves a lot of the Hispanic community, which is likely where many of the recent 'catch and release' immigrants landed. (Didn't look, but Parkland does the same for Dallas.) I am curious how much effect masking practice had - it should be clear that uncontrolled dispersion of infected immigrants is not a good practice, but we are forbidden from suggesting that.
Posted by Glenmore 2021-08-11 10:43||   2021-08-11 10:43|| Front Page Top

#20 As the truly savvy grifters see the end of the scam in sight, they needed to get these tent rental contracts out there toot suite.

Appropriations for hospitals to fund overfill situations is on its one year use it or lose it deadline. That is a thing.

Suppose we can look forward to nurses tiktoking on the flying trapeze?
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-08-11 10:44||   2021-08-11 10:44|| Front Page Top

#21 Several states have outlawed charity run hospitals as charities can skirt rules incompatible with running a legitimate hospital.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 10:49||   2021-08-11 10:49|| Front Page Top

#22 The louder a COVID religionist screeches the less they should be listened to.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 10:52||   2021-08-11 10:52|| Front Page Top

#23 #19. People who have had crappy nutrition and hygiene recently (gimmiegrants) are sicker than most people. Knock me over with a feather...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 10:55||   2021-08-11 10:55|| Front Page Top

#24  #14 ^Wasn't it the French?

Nah, it was the Germans. You're probably thinking of the Battle of Rainbow Warrior.
Posted by SteveS 2021-08-11 11:11||   2021-08-11 11:11|| Front Page Top

#25 ^First Manassas.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 12:07||   2021-08-11 12:07|| Front Page Top

#26 Idiots should be defied. And, on Covid, Republicans are idiots - letting the tail (a small group of "fundamentalist conservatives") wag the dog.

Masks have been proven ineffective in numerous studies by clinical professionals. Why are you so frightened? Your fear has you unhinged.
Posted by Beldar and Company8669 2021-08-11 12:07||   2021-08-11 12:07|| Front Page Top

#27 Masks have been proven ineffective in numerous studies by clinical professionals.

That's just your urban legend.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 12:12||   2021-08-11 12:12|| Front Page Top

#28 Uh...no. Do a search for yourself. There have been quite a few studies that address the ineffectiveness of masks, especially the little cloth face diapers. Don't ask me to curate these articles for you, you'll better appreciate them if you do the legwork yourself.
Posted by Beldar and Company8669 2021-08-11 12:24||   2021-08-11 12:24|| Front Page Top

#29 ^Read some of them - bandarlog hooting.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 12:27||   2021-08-11 12:27|| Front Page Top

#30 ^ COVID religionist tries to re-position his belief matrix...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 12:28||   2021-08-11 12:28|| Front Page Top

#31 MM when's your booster shoot scheduled?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 12:29||   2021-08-11 12:29|| Front Page Top

#32 It's swirling the bowl now g. Get out while you can.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 12:29||   2021-08-11 12:29|| Front Page Top

#33 It isn't? Too bad.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 12:30||   2021-08-11 12:30|| Front Page Top

#34 No boosters approved here in the US right now. Why do you ask a question an expert like you should already know the answer to?
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 12:31||   2021-08-11 12:31|| Front Page Top

#35 Religion can't wait for FDA, NIH, CDC or St. Fauxi. Says it all...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 12:33||   2021-08-11 12:33|| Front Page Top

#36 N-95 masks worn so tightly that the skin is bruised under the rim of the thing as it seals to the face, and changed out as soon as it becomes moist are effective, especially when combined with a clear plastic face shield, according to the research I’ve seen. Anything less prevents spraying droplets into the air when coughing or sneezing — a good thing for diseases spread by droplets — but is not much more protective in either direction than that. And the damp inner surface basically cultures whatever was in the breath, so that the concentration of all sorts of ugly things is much higher for the mask wearer than for everyone else if not changed fairly frequently.

Finally, I would not trust a disposable mask made in China to be either effective or sterile upon opening the package.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-08-11 12:36||   2021-08-11 12:36|| Front Page Top

#37 Years ago, while working in a repair depot, I had a physicist in to have his workstation repaired. Turned out to be a memory module. I said offhand "Maybe a cosmic ray." He said the chances were slim. We got to talking and I said "The Universe is awash in radiation. Could be aliens would come here and be astonished that we could survive it." He smiled and said "Never thought of it like that, but you could be right."
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 12:43||   2021-08-11 12:43|| Front Page Top

#38 ^TW, surgical mask is - principally - to prevent you from infecting other people. That's why, when you go to a dentist, he wears a musk and you do not.

p.s. Coronaviruses don't have wings, they propagate with water droplets, which your mask stops either outgoing or incoming.

The situation you detailed above applies to medical personnel in Covid wards - not to people shopping in a supermarket, or taking a bus.

Now I realize that, for some people, not wearing a mask in current times proves their bravery (or something). I'm sure the viruses are terribly impressed
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 12:50||   2021-08-11 12:50|| Front Page Top

#39 Why does an "expert" ask about a booster shot that's not available or approved in the US yet? Not up to speed? Not really an expert? Religious fanatic? You tell me.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 13:05||   2021-08-11 13:05|| Front Page Top

#40 ^Because I'm expert on immunology - not American psychology.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 13:07||   2021-08-11 13:07|| Front Page Top

#41 Psychology prolly is in charge at NIH and CDC but that doesn't change the fact there are no "boosters" currently approved in the US. We're all gonna die.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 13:12||   2021-08-11 13:12|| Front Page Top

#42 I have no more use for COVID religion than I do for pisslam.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 13:13||   2021-08-11 13:13|| Front Page Top

#43 I've no use for Covid sceptics - reality denial is a form of psychosis.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 13:27||   2021-08-11 13:27|| Front Page Top

#44 #41 Neh, now that booster shoots are approved in Israel, you people will follow.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 13:28||   2021-08-11 13:28|| Front Page Top

#45 Ah the tenacity of mindset. And the elasticity thereof. This is no slight on you guys, it's just human psychology.

I have no doubt if Trump was in office and was running some kind of 'get the Jab America' campaign, we would be seeing a different perspective here at Rantburg too. And jests about antivaxxers or covid skeptics, with rhetoric about saving America with the all powerful mask.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-11 13:45||   2021-08-11 13:45|| Front Page Top

#46 In fact,
Sarah Huckabee Sanders Calls Covid-19 Vaccine The ‘Trump Vaccine,’ Urges People To Get It

So, anti-vaxxers are actually never-Trumpers in disguise.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-11 14:15||   2021-08-11 14:15|| Front Page Top

#47 *yawn* tiresome
Posted by Frank G 2021-08-11 16:31||   2021-08-11 16:31|| Front Page Top

#48 Note the misdirection. Now that booster shoots are approved in Israel, you people will follow.

I didn't say what will come, I said the current stat of play. Andy Cum-oh was governor a couple days ago too.
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-08-11 16:55||   2021-08-11 16:55|| Front Page Top

#49 Us people. A dog whistle to blacks...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 17:16||   2021-08-11 17:16|| Front Page Top

#50 And they ruined the new Suicide Squad movie!
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-08-11 17:52||   2021-08-11 17:52|| Front Page Top

#51 ^ How could you tell?
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 17:56||   2021-08-11 17:56|| Front Page Top

#52 Except, #45, Trump woundn't do that. He'd say "Look, it's probably a good idea, a great idea, but it's up to you, as it should be..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 17:59||   2021-08-11 17:59|| Front Page Top

#53 You are always telling us many of the cohort in India are a waste of skin, D, so why worry about vaccines now?
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 18:02||   2021-08-11 18:02|| Front Page Top

#54 Studio told me so, must be true.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-08-11 18:07||   2021-08-11 18:07|| Front Page Top

#55 Candace Owen makes Jenny McCarthy look sane. All the same, I feel vaxx is a personal decision. I got vaxxed, I'm informed it won't stop me from getting COVID and maybe dying anyway. So why should I care what anyone else does. Magic numbers guy will say that's irresponsible. Well, lots of people make other irresponsible choices for themselves every day without my input. So. It. Goes.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 18:12||   2021-08-11 18:12|| Front Page Top

#56 As for the cost to society, If I go terminal, that's on the society that enabled Fauxi. I hope it costs them stupidly large amounts.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 18:34||   2021-08-11 18:34|| Front Page Top

#57 Why do you engage this asshole anymore?
Posted by Raj 2021-08-11 18:43||   2021-08-11 18:43|| Front Page Top

#58 Because you have to stamp on a cockroach or put out powder or spray...
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-11 18:48||   2021-08-11 18:48|| Front Page Top

#59 One could make the argument that how much society has cost the individual, society can right piss off.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-08-11 18:51||   2021-08-11 18:51|| Front Page Top

#60 My own opinion. Take it or leave it.

In business you reduce your risks and do things that increase your chances of success. This not the flu. In my opinion it is bio warfare introduced to the world successfully by China. My brother battled Covid for 6 weeks and lost. He died way too young. I am a hard core right wing conservative but who also believes kids can spread the cold, flu and now Covid faster amongst themselves than any other age group. That endangers the Teacher, the parent at the house suffering from diabetes and the 80 year old grandparent on the weekend visit who has pre-conditions and the school bus driver.

MASK UP. PERIOD. EVERYBODY.
Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-08-11 23:21||   2021-08-11 23:21|| Front Page Top

#61 Also, can we have discussions without all of the personal insults?
Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-08-11 23:38||   2021-08-11 23:38|| Front Page Top

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