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2013-07-11 Afghanistan

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Posted by Pappy 2013-07-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 Wot a cluster. The whole shithole country with the Paks and the Valley should get an ethnic clensing amongst them self. And leave the rest of modern culture alone. Of course we are going to have to come back for a few times to kill the really bad guys. We should have just enough oversite to dronezap the head jihadist, or napalm the ones that are creating AlKaeada more recruitment and training camps.

Posted by Texhooey 2013-07-11 00:19|| 2013-07-11 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 How about faculty lounge rule?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-07-11 03:43|| 2013-07-11 03:43|| Front Page Top

#3 How about sterilization? (Preferably at long range, preferably Nuclear)

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-07-11 08:03|| 2013-07-11 08:03|| Front Page Top

#4 Whatever pacifies Chicago.

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-07-11 09:11|| 2013-07-11 09:11|| Front Page Top

#5 Total defeat.

Posted by Iblis 2013-07-11 10:17|| 2013-07-11 10:17|| Front Page Top

#6 "We will not tire, we will not falter and we will not fail."
-- GWB, 9/20/2001

Sure didn't turn out that way, did it?

I shudder to think about what our adversaries have probably concluded about us based on these past 12 years: we tire quickly; we're easily distracted; we're extremely unsure of ourselves, to the point of being afraid to even name our enemy ("It's the Islam, stupid!") for fear of being accused of "racism"; and we've become so over-civilized, so effete, we consider waterboarding (which doesn't do any more than scare the crap out of an interrogation subject) to be "brutal torture."

I also shudder to think about what it will take to jolt us awake, make us jettison the political-correctness bullshit, and really deal with the menace of radical Islam once and for all.

9/11 didn't do it; what will it take?

Posted by Dave D. 2013-07-11 12:09|| 2013-07-11 12:09|| Front Page Top

#7 Loss of Manhattan, San Francisco, and Los Angeles.

Posted by Fred 2013-07-11 13:05|| 2013-07-11 13:05|| Front Page Top

#8 I've given up trying to figure out if the problem is Liberalism per se or some sort of civilizational alzheimer's.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-07-11 13:16|| 2013-07-11 13:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Aren't they the same thing? Seems like it to me...

Posted by Dave D. 2013-07-11 13:26|| 2013-07-11 13:26|| Front Page Top

#10 DaveD, a student of history would know the US starts to grow tired of conflict after 4 years. All they have to do is draw it out long enough.

Even Vietnam had popular support until about the 4 year mark.

The fact that our political class hasn't realize this does not reflect well on them.

Posted by rjschwarz 2013-07-11 15:05|| 2013-07-11 15:05|| Front Page Top

#11 "Winning hearts and minds" doesn't seem to work too well unless you beat them into submission first to get their attention. You just have to do it in 4 years.

Posted by JohnQC 2013-07-11 15:49|| 2013-07-11 15:49|| Front Page Top

#12 No, Obama can live with Taliban Rule , Not America.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-07-11 17:16|| 2013-07-11 17:16|| Front Page Top

#13 The Bush administration's 9/11-Afghanistan policy had become self-contradictory as early as October of 2001.

In September Bush himself, speaking before a Joint Session of Congress said:

"These demands are not open to negotiation or discussion. The Taliban must act, and act immediately. They will hand over the terrorists, or they will share in their fate."

The original reason for going into Afghanistan was to destroy (one of) the state sponsors of 9/11, the Taliban. It was to punish the Taliban (and their Afghan supporters) for what had already happened.

Yet, in October of 2001 Colin Powell not only offered to spare some Taliban punishment for 9/11.
He offered them political power in a new Afghanistan recognized, financed and served by the US (link).

This went off the rails well before the 4 years were over.

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2013-07-11 17:26|| 2013-07-11 17:26|| Front Page Top

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