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2004-06-27 Afghanistan/South Asia

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Posted by TS(vice girl) 2004-06-27 2:13:05 AM|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Clearing the Air", yep!

Posted by Lucky 2004-06-27 2:18:58 AM|| 2004-06-27 2:18:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Bootlicker TROLL 2004-06-27 2:32:13 AM|| 2004-06-27 2:32:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Not that I disagree with what Mr. Sadiq is trying to say, but I think he's being a bit evasive. When he says, "It is a holy word in the Quran meaning action done to further the cause of God", there are many "reasonable" interpretations, a la Sayyid Qutb, of the Quran that posit terroristic actions as proper. There are many passages written down by the Prophet, as well as the extra stories written by his later followers, that guide and sanction a lot of the Islamic numbwits working in the world today. What Mr. Sadiq should do is acknowledge these facts, then work towards a re-interpretation of these enabling passages. Otherwise, it's just too easy for the Islamist pushers of jihad to dismiss non-violent voices such as Mr. Sadiq as unauthentic, thus irrelevant.

Second point: WTF is he talking about about, "Leaders of all religions should be involved...". This ain't anybody's issue to resolve but Muslims'. The rest of us are only involved in arresting and killing the "misguided" Islamists. It's not us that need to understand the real meaning of jihad. The day Islamists resolve jihad and the more violent teachings of the Prophet as metaphors for spiritual struggle is the day the war stops.

Plus, I want a pony.

And some beer that doesn't make me fat in the gut.

Posted by beer_me 2004-06-27 2:48:27 AM|| 2004-06-27 2:48:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Correct, Beer_me.

We just want the moderates to win the battle for the intellectual direction of Islam.

We want the ones who follow Qutb's interpretations to LOSE and the ones who ignore the warlike tendencies and consider Jihad an inner struggle ONLY against vice to WIN.

when that day comes there will be no more planes flying into towers.

You are definitely right on Point 2: it is a muslim issue to resolve. Other religions got nuttin to do with it.

But we can and will interfere to hinder the Qutb's (islamofascists) and to promote the ROPs.

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-27 2:52:31 AM|| 2004-06-27 2:52:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 and by hinder i mean we can and should by any means necessary eliminate the Qutb's.

Assassinations, prison, bombs, you name it. They have to go.

Posted by Anon1 2004-06-27 2:53:17 AM|| 2004-06-27 2:53:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Oh yeah, Anon1. That's our main contribution to this whole mess: By removing the nutjobs by any means possible.

Except by putting panties on their heads. Can't do that. Wouldn't be prudent. Otherwise, where would those Japanese ~~pervs~~, er, "differently aroused", get their supply?

Posted by beer_me 2004-06-27 3:07:30 AM|| 2004-06-27 3:07:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 All well said!

Posted by Lucky 2004-06-27 3:45:21 AM|| 2004-06-27 3:45:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 A few passages from the Quran: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah" (Surat At-Taubah 9:29). "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them" (Quran 8:12). "The unbelievers among the People of the Book(Bible), and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures" (Quran 98:1-8). "Fight against those who believe not in Allah, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (Islam), until they are subdued" (Surat At-Taubah 9:29).

Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-06-27 4:37:21 AM|| 2004-06-27 4:37:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Thanks HP. There's a whole crapload of jihad in the Quran. I have no idea how anyone can convincingly explain the references away. I'm sure it can be done, but it is an awesome task. I keep wondering if it can take one well-written, charismatic superstar, or will it require generations of hard-working scholars.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[4.71] ...go forth in detachments or go forth in a body [to war].

[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war

[9.05] ...slay the idolaters wherever you find them...take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush...

[47.04] ...when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them

And my personal favorite:

[3.125] Yea! if you remain patient and are on your guard, and they come upon you in a headlong manner, your Lord will assist you with five thousand of the havoc-making angels.

Man, I'd love to have 5,000 havoc-making angels.

Posted by beer_me 2004-06-27 5:07:37 AM|| 2004-06-27 5:07:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 5,000 havoc-making angels

In some places, such as Athens, Ohio, "havoc-making angels" is a synonym for "sorority members."

Posted by Mike 2004-06-27 9:22:20 AM|| 2004-06-27 9:22:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Mike -

5,000 havoc-making angels In some places, such as Athens, Ohio, "havoc-making angels" is a synonym for "sorority members."

Naw, that's here at USC/Columbia.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-06-27 9:39:40 AM|| 2004-06-27 9:39:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 great, first it's 72 ~~virgins~~ raisins, now 5000 havoc-making angels....and beerme's pony

what won't Allan provide?

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-27 10:19:06 AM|| 2004-06-27 10:19:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 what won't Allan provide?

That would be satisfaction.

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-27 1:03:33 PM|| 2004-06-27 1:03:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 It seems that allan does provide....I wonder if he'd give me a blowjob, I'm feeling a little randy today.

Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-06-27 1:04:52 PM|| 2004-06-27 1:04:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 lol

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-27 1:08:13 PM|| 2004-06-27 1:08:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 know what? "Gay" doesn't mean what it used to mean either. Fact is, Kalbe, baby, you guys need to find another word, cuz whatever you think "jihad" should mean, it don't.

I think it's ironic that terrorists "hijacked" the word "jihad!"

Posted by Anonymous5423 2004-06-27 4:53:41 PM|| 2004-06-27 4:53:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 This is from India. Nothing is official or is taken seriously in Islam until it comes out of Mecca. Even a peace treaty is not official unless it is signed in Mecca, per the Koran.

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