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2023-05-31 Home Front: Politix

Trump vows to end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens if president again

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Posted by Fred 2023-05-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 14th Amendment -

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

That is going to require 2/3 of the House and Senate and 3/4 of the States to change. I doubt that SCOTUS would buy the argument that illegals that ignored their appearance date declared by their actions that they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-05-31 07:25|| 2023-05-31 07:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Can't even get Congress to vote that English is the official language of the United States.

More Trump hot air? Perhaps.

On a related note, IIRC, the Germans can kick out a Turk even if born and raised there.

Posted by DooDahMan 2023-05-31 07:32|| 2023-05-31 07:32|| Front Page Top

#3 I am sure the initiative polled well. It won’t work, but it polled well.

Posted by Super Hose 2023-05-31 09:13|| 2023-05-31 09:13|| Front Page Top

#4 There's an easy fix for this given how abortion-happy liberals are: Any non-citizen trying to enter the US gets a free abortion. If they don't want one, they can give birth somewhere else.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-05-31 09:17|| 2023-05-31 09:17|| Front Page Top

#5 IIRC, the Germans can kick out a Turk even if born and raised there.

Even if they’ve become German citizens? Very few resident Turks become German citizens — my understanding is that if they do so they lost inheritance rights back home.

Posted by trailing wife 2023-05-31 09:36|| 2023-05-31 09:36|| Front Page Top

#6 "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

Sovereignty. Very debatable.

What is a foreign sovereign? Does a pinky toe on American soil transfer a foreigner's agency to the jurisdiction of the united states? Am I mexican just b/c I'm down in Baja? Conversely how can we say a mexican is american just because the experts told us? Trained us. I reject the whole notion. So did the Founding Fathers.

Volokh

Posted by mossomo 2023-05-31 16:03|| 2023-05-31 16:03|| Front Page Top

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