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2018-04-06 Economy

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Posted by Besoeker 2018-04-06 06:28|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 Why we need social housing in the US

Because it has worked so well in the past? East German, Chicago, Detroit, and St. Louis public housing models are the most equitable? Firearm sales need a boost? The clustering of the unemployed actually helps them gain employment? 'Identity politics' is the key to the future ?

Posted by Besoeker 2018-04-06 06:34|| 2018-04-06 06:34|| Front Page Top

#2 publicly owned, efficiently built apartments

Turn the oxymoron dial to 11 +.

2 words: Cabrini Green

Posted by AlanC 2018-04-06 08:03|| 2018-04-06 08:03|| Front Page Top

#3 Army of the poor. Still an army. There's an amendment that covers that....

Posted by M. Murcek 2018-04-06 08:23|| 2018-04-06 08:23|| Front Page Top

#4 2 words: Cabrini Green

I'll raise you to three: Grove Parc Plaza (link) - Operated by the Habitat Company who's CEO was Valory Jarret. Even the Boston Globe found it a stunning failure.

Posted by CrazyFool 2018-04-06 08:48|| 2018-04-06 08:48|| Front Page Top

#5 California has some kind of law that says they must have so many units of affordable housing for so many population or something like that, but there is a carbon-credit style loophole that allows rich communities to pay another community to house their poor for them. My city, Carlsbad has earned extra money by building such housing on behalf of La Jolla (really wealthy) and Rancho Santa Fe (also really wealthy).

It's a great idea for the budget of Carlsbad, but I went to a crime mapping website one day and found all of the crimes in Carlsbad seem to cluster around the housing complex near my home. Mostly domestic type stuff but a number of car break-ins.

I imagine if the housing was free it would be even worse.

Posted by rjschwarz 2018-04-06 10:12|| 2018-04-06 10:12|| Front Page Top

#6 val jar slumlord extraordinaire, claws in many, many places and BACKS in shitcago. I guess you could call the iranian, the shitown hustler "HO"

Posted by ranture 2018-04-06 10:21|| 2018-04-06 10:21|| Front Page Top

#7 Carlsbad. I used to go there. After work we always went to Del Mar where the officers lived. Nice area.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2018-04-06 11:11|| 2018-04-06 11:11|| Front Page Top

#8 You can bet your bottom dollar that whenever somebody starts talking about affordable housing they are working some sort of a scam.

They've been talking about it here in San Diego County for as long as I can remember and that's a long, long time. They've been building as fast as they can all that time and the cost of housing continues to skyrocket. A house around the corner from me just went on the market for over a million dollars. In 1994 that same house sold for a little over $200,000. That is in spite of a building boom that has transformed vast rural areas into suburban sprawl with corresponding over crowding and degradation of the quality of life for people who already live here.

The developers get rich on the backs of illegal alien labor and they bribe local pols. Everything they say is a lie.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-04-06 11:31|| 2018-04-06 11:31|| Front Page Top

#9 I actually visited this place with a number of senior Nixon Admin HUD officials. Colossal mistake as a policy matter.

https://amp.theguardian.com/cities/2015/apr/22/pruitt-igoe-high-rise-urban-america-history-cities

Posted by NoMoreBS 2018-04-06 11:46|| 2018-04-06 11:46|| Front Page Top

#10 I agree - just build it in New Mexico or some such.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-04-06 12:19|| 2018-04-06 12:19|| Front Page Top

#11 See 'Teletubbie'.

Posted by Skidmark 2018-04-06 12:23|| 2018-04-06 12:23|| Front Page Top

#12 @Abu Uluque

All that's gone up is the cost of land(cost of land/average wages), a negative for the economy...

And in part because the central bank works for the benefit of the establishment. Just like they do with subsidized migration.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2018-04-06 15:25|| 2018-04-06 15:25|| Front Page Top

#13 Still lots of cheap vacant land in the Dakotas. Small towns there are evaporating as the young leave for greener pasture$. Dirt is cheap, except in the popular areas.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2018-04-06 15:59|| 2018-04-06 15:59|| Front Page Top

#14 I imagine if the housing was free it would be even worse

Look at the crime maps in the neighborhoods around Section 8 housing (either clustered or individual). Usually pretty depressing.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2018-04-06 16:19|| 2018-04-06 16:19|| Front Page Top

#15 Those who have not studied history are doomed to repeat it.

Posted by KBK 2018-04-06 17:53|| 2018-04-06 17:53|| Front Page Top

#16 Cluster the super-poor together and you can create a Democrat enclave in an otherwise red city.

Posted by rjschwarz 2018-04-06 18:35|| 2018-04-06 18:35|| Front Page Top

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