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2020-03-19 Europe
Germany has succumbed to panic
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-19 03:09|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 Panic? For now measures taken are less strict than in Italy, Spain and France.

Some things make more sense than others, but we must flatten the curve.

Mass meetings should have been banned much earlier.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-19 07:00||   2020-03-19 07:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Can we please get accurate numbers?

Specifically, numbers that reflect the enormous population of those who a) were definitely infected but who recovered, and b) likely to have been infected but who show no symptoms?

And also that the timeline us accurate when it comes to for adding and subtracting from the total # of infected for each day?

Are we sure that the curve that is being calculated has taken the above into account?

If not, then the ACTUAL curve is certain to be far different from what our policy makers are looking at: most likely far "spikier" in earlier/past periods, and far less spiky -- flatter -- today and in recent days.

Which means that we are almost certainly doing ourselves more harm by locking down everything and everyone right now than we would if we were to make selective, careful, and above all, DATA-INFORMED closures.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-19 08:21||   2020-03-19 08:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Accurate numbers. From where? From the same media and government grant grabbing "scientist" community that has been pushing gerbil worming? Really?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa....
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-03-19 12:03||   2020-03-19 12:03|| Front Page Top

#4 MM there are no accurate numbers even in professional publications because most people who suffer from light form of cold/flu do not register. Don't blame the press (they've enough sins as it is).
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-19 12:34||   2020-03-19 12:34|| Front Page Top

#5  Can we please get accurate numbers?

The people who would otherwise be filling out the forms that get entered into computers to be sent to the various central authorities to be forwarded to WHO are otherwise occupied at the moment. And expanding on g(r)omgoru’s point, even the CDC’s annual flu numbers — except for hospital statistics (severe illness and death numbers) — are estimates spit out by computer models based on previous population samples.

Bottom line, we do not yet have the data to make truly data-informed decisions.
Posted by trailing wife 2020-03-19 16:31||   2020-03-19 16:31|| Front Page Top

#6 ^Nor do we need to - all we need to know is how to twick the parameters of the model to make it behave in a desirable fashion.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-19 16:40||   2020-03-19 16:40|| Front Page Top

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