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2019-03-18 -Obits-

Boeing 'finalizing' anti-stall update after Ethiopia crash

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Posted by Fred 2019-03-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 {Rooters Report} Department of Transportation is investigating the FAA.

Posted by Ebbavirt Clunk4147 2019-03-18 02:30|| 2019-03-18 02:30|| Front Page Top

#2 #1{Rooters Report} Department of Transportation is investigating the FAA.
Posted by: Ebbavirt Clunk4147 2019-03-18 02:30

...Have heard that FAA is already circling the wagons on this and will blame it on not having the manpower due to budget cuts.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2019-03-18 04:37|| 2019-03-18 04:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Is this a move towards a Socialist government? Until then Boeing owns these problems. Not the government, unless they nationalise Boeing.

Posted by Ebbavirt Clunk4147 2019-03-18 06:18|| 2019-03-18 06:18|| Front Page Top

#4 It's overambitious software. Maybe the plane is hard to fly. I have seen no conclusive proof yet of that assertion. One train of arguments says the engines had to be set too far ahead of the wings due to size. If Boeing engineers actually signed off on something that flawed, the problem is institutional. OTOH, what engineer doesn't have an impulse to say "I can make that work!"

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-18 07:07|| 2019-03-18 07:07|| Front Page Top

#5 what engineer doesn't have an impulse to say "I can make that work!"

They have also said, "Don't bother me with details."

Posted by Skidmark 2019-03-18 07:31|| 2019-03-18 07:31|| Front Page Top

#6 There does seem to be a bit of software "magic" trying to handle a compromised design...

Fixing the flawed design is VASTLY more expensive though.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-03-18 07:58|| 2019-03-18 07:58|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm not a PhotoShop jockey, but maybe they should have just moved the engines to the back like a greatly oversized A-10?

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-18 08:12|| 2019-03-18 08:12|| Front Page Top

#8 what engineer doesn't have an impulse to say "I can make that work!"

“Fetch the bigger hammer ... and a fist-sized rock!” Yes, I did marry an engineer, bless him. No, the front porch hasn’t moved even a fraction of an inch since that day, not even after the earthquake. Why the building inspector was unhappy after all that time is utterly inexplicable to certain parties.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-03-18 09:04|| 2019-03-18 09:04|| Front Page Top

#9 There are engineering trade-offs for each placement Murcek.

On the back means the tail is heavy and they have to adjust the angle of attack of the engines or wings for level flight, or program software to do it. Also is noisier for the passengers.

On the wings and away from the body allows for more stable flight and reduces noise, but can increase metal fatigue and stress on the wings. Also if an engine goes horribly wrong it can shower the body and with with shrapnel in that location.

Posted by DarthVader 2019-03-18 09:05|| 2019-03-18 09:05|| Front Page Top

#10 DV, I was just cracking wise. I suspect the engines belong under the wings. I'm no engineer, so exactly where under the wings I freely admit I have no idea...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-18 09:07|| 2019-03-18 09:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Whenever my plane is pulling up to the gate, I always get the impression all modern twin engine passenger jets look like supersized ME-262s...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-18 09:19|| 2019-03-18 09:19|| Front Page Top

#12 thanks for that 262 reference,M.; now thats all i am gonna see. and me sitting at D22 in seatac right now.
im still flummoxed by the flat spotted nacelles on some 737s.....

Posted by US , Ret. 2019-03-18 09:25|| 2019-03-18 09:25|| Front Page Top

#13 i suspect the Lazy B law department is working overtime on 2 fronts: defense planning for the avalanche of lawsuits and mass quantity of document shredding before the discovery orders come in

Posted by USN, Ret. 2019-03-18 09:28|| 2019-03-18 09:28|| Front Page Top

#14 Oh well, here is the video/mindworm.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-03-18 09:30|| 2019-03-18 09:30|| Front Page Top

#15 You can actually buy a ride. It was about $5500 / hr when I saw it at the Scottsdale airport a few years back...

https://www.collingsfoundation.org/aircrafts/messerschmitt-262/

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-18 09:33|| 2019-03-18 09:33|| Front Page Top

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