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2010-02-17 Home Front: Culture Wars
“New twist on Lent' California's bishops suggest: “Reduce your carbon footprint'
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Posted by tipper 2010-02-17 02:23|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 I wonder if these are one of the group of "Catholic" organizations populated exclusively by non-Catholics and funded by George Soros?

I gather there are least two dozen of them.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-02-17 08:00||   2010-02-17 08:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Reducing carbon combustion will just delay, not eliminate that injection of CO2 into the atmosphere.
Sequestration of CO2 (separation & injection, etc.) will actually increase the carbon combustion, as it takes energy to separate and inject, which will accelerate the end of the fossil fuel era; whether it will actually reduce the CO2 footprint depends on process efficiencies.
Mostly all any of these actions do is transfer economic activity from more efficient economies to less efficient economies - less net activity per unit carbon burned or CO2 emitted.
Posted by Glenmore 2010-02-17 08:35||   2010-02-17 08:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Someone in a very public venue should ask the Bishop if abortion avoids future carbon footprint expansion?
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-02-17 08:37||   2010-02-17 08:37|| Front Page Top

#4 I am certainly not a believer in the myth of AGW, but reducing our consumption, of everything, is a good idea. We, as a society, have become consumed with consuming. It's crazy and it feeds into this entitlement mentality that we are cultivating. Makes me want to puke.
Posted by AllahHateMe 2010-02-17 10:01||   2010-02-17 10:01|| Front Page Top

#5 Selling the climate change myth is essential if they are to get their green pensions. See the RB 2-15 article "Follow the money: BBC exposed in biggest climate racket on planet ":

The BBC’s Peter Dunscombe, as Chair of the IIGCC, endorses (he may have even written) that in his pension trust’s policy statements that:
“Without government actions, however, private-sector investment will not reach the scale required to address climate change effectively.”
You got that? Climate change has to be addressed “effectively,” i.e. effective for his pension pot. With a shameful hidden agenda like that its no wonder viewers are abandoning television and coming to the internet for impartial news reporting. This self-serving hypocrite baloney goes further:
“….we remain firmly convinced that climate change presents both material risks and significant opportunities for investment portfolios…”
Several Catholic Churches are listed in the article as having pension funds at risk.
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2010-02-17 10:04||   2010-02-17 10:04|| Front Page Top

#6 This is idiocy. Its the old boomer-lefty priests that borught us the pedophile mess and the idiot war protesters as well. They have lost sight of the Goispel and become besotted with enviro-leftism, now that the Church has cracked down on the usual lefty stuff in many areas.

Someone should force this moron bishop to read Pope John Paull II's "Fides et Ratio" (Faith and Reason), then review the whole climate-gate mess and the unraveling of the whole carbon footprint as a scam, and then review the Catholic principle and doctrine of subsidarity.

This moron is so caught up in worldliness he is utterly neglecting the spiritual in his efforts top promote materialist leftist dogma.

It has been said that the floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops. (meaning the worst of the punishments are for the bishops who lead their flock astray).


God save us from fools like this.
Posted by OldSpook 2010-02-17 10:06||   2010-02-17 10:06|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm doing my part, padres. Weddings, funerals, baptisms. That's it. Been that way for quite awhile. For a lotta reasons, but Kumbaya crap like this is one of them.
But I'll bet it does wonders for my carbon footprint. No need to thank me. See ya when I see ya, father...
Posted by tu3031 2010-02-17 12:19||   2010-02-17 12:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Right. I'm gonna ride my bicycle 30 miles to work.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-02-17 13:08||   2010-02-17 13:08|| Front Page Top

#9 I work very had at making sure that my carbon foot print is as large as possible.
Posted by Kelly 2010-02-17 14:11||   2010-02-17 14:11|| Front Page Top

#10 AllahHateMe: Consumption, by itself, is not bad. But the impulse to consume responsibly should come from only two directions: greater efficiency and lower cost.

This is a very different philosophy from those who live in a mindset of shortage, deprivation and rationing. Often such people embrace such things because in them they see "perverse equality".

They abhor abundance in anything, because abundance in anything leads to inequality. Whatever is in abundance becomes a de facto currency, and some will have more and others less, based on their choices.

The extreme end of this belief could be seen in old East Germany, where everything was to be kept in a state of shortage and rationed. Even color and music were solely to be used to honor the state, so everything was in shades of black, white and gray, and the predominant sound was noise.

I have lost any faith at all in those who posit shortage of natural things. A key indicator of deceit is when confronted with facts that a shortage does not exist, they say that it is important to continue with that message, anyway, to "raise public awareness".

The ends justify the means.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-02-17 17:45||   2010-02-17 17:45|| Front Page Top

#11 I'll put away my V8 sports car the minute Hollywood and Washington junk their private jets.
Posted by ed 2010-02-17 17:51||   2010-02-17 17:51|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm not religious, and maybe it's just lack of paying attention or a small sample size, but I don't remember preachers being so insane inane when I was growing up.

At least not the supposedly normal ones (Oral Roberts types need not apply).
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2010-02-17 19:05||   2010-02-17 19:05|| Front Page Top

#13 They've gotten worse. How much? In 1947 10% of all Phi Beta Kappa grads went to seminary. In 1990?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-02-17 19:40||   2010-02-17 19:40|| Front Page Top

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