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2012-02-24 Afghanistan
Sarah Palin: where's the apology for death of US troops?
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Posted by Steve White 2012-02-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ]  Top

#1 PALIN-BOLTON in 2012!

Psst-We have lots of great conservatives out there--We can tweak the mix to our advantage! Anything to pry Pharaoh and his godless minions/czars/Civil Service political burrowers and demons OUT! Santorum is correct. There are evil spiritual entities that are thousands of years old, poised to pounce on, and ravage our throats!
Posted by Elmising Poodle6592 2012-02-24 00:52||   2012-02-24 00:52|| Front Page Top

#2 She is correct. We burned murder orders written in Korans that "islamic" prisoners were defacing. What did you want US to do with them?

In turn, you murder your protectors. FU.

You had better calm this shit down now in Afghanistan before you make me lose my damn mind.

+1
Posted by newc 2012-02-24 02:10||   2012-02-24 02:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Behold! Islamic gratitude.

Turn the entire lot over to the Taliban, blow everything in-place. Kill anything thats gets in our way. Load up and fly outta there as quickly as possible. Leave the primitive, hopeless bastards to their goat buggering and dancing boys.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-02-24 03:17||   2012-02-24 03:17|| Front Page Top

#4 I blame a political class unable to think outside of the Vietnam paradigm.

Afghanistan, the Afghans are not allies to be protected, they are enemies to be defeated.

AFTER defeating the enemy (and meting out measured punishment) you can be magnanimous, help the miserable rebuild their countries (in the image of Western civilization not barbarism.)

For historical reference here's a quote related to a successful project of liberation:
"b. Germany will not be occupied for the purpose of liberation but as a defeated enemy nation. Your aim is not oppression but to occupy Germany for the purpose of realizing certain important Allied objectives. In the conduct of your occupation and administration you should be just but firm and aloof. You will strongly discourage fraternization with the German officials and population."

Directive to the Commander in Chief of the U.S. Occupation Forces (JCS 1067) (April 1945)


A self confident, assertive occupation was able to bring positive change to Germany and Japan. It might have brought a measure of such change to Afghanistan and Iraq.

What happened was the application of theoretically overwhelming force combined with an incoherent but mostly weak and submissive political framework which never had a chance to succeed.

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Posted by Whomp Pherelet5700 2012-02-24 05:29||   2012-02-24 05:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Gratitude is an attribute of a society where cooperation is based on reciprocity. In Arab, and to the lesser extent all other Islamic "societies", cooperation is based on kin-selection.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-02-24 07:02||   2012-02-24 07:02|| Front Page Top

#6 I must agree with you g(r)om, but I am sure you will agree, Islam does not have the market cornered on this type of...let me call it faith-based behavior.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-02-24 07:45||   2012-02-24 07:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Excellent rant Whomp.

Much like our treatment of terrorists who are sworn to kill and enslave us. We treat them as 'victims to be treated' and not 'enemies to be defeated'.
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-02-24 08:18||   2012-02-24 08:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Good rant Whomp.

Add to this the notion of 'nation-building', an unfortunate amalgam of 19th century imperialism and 20th century do-gooder progressism, in which we decided we could turn a group of Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Turkmen and crazy Pashtuns into a nation-state. I think that's exactly the moment we went down the wrong path.
Posted by Steve White 2012-02-24 08:49||   2012-02-24 08:49|| Front Page Top

#9 It woulda worked better if we didn't decide a Pashtun had to be in charge, and a lot better if we didn't decide upon a particular caped Pashtun.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2012-02-24 10:14||   2012-02-24 10:14|| Front Page Top

#10 IMO, you confuse cause & effect Besoeker. The "faith-based behavior" is due to inability to cooperate effectively. Well, never mind theories. Do you agree with me that it's much more profitable to teach calculus to dogs than democracy to Muslims?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-02-24 10:40||   2012-02-24 10:40|| Front Page Top

#11 The Afghan people are murderous savages who spread worldwide misery with their opium and exist on an imprinted culture of crime, slavery, oppression, illiteracy, and pederasty.

Posted by Penguin 2012-02-24 10:58||   2012-02-24 10:58|| Front Page Top

#12 You left second century, pedofiliac goat buggerers, but I will overlook it this time.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-02-24 11:47||   2012-02-24 11:47|| Front Page Top

#13 I've always thought that when we launched Enduring Freedom, we should have said the hell with winning hearts and minds--win the war. If that meant destroying everything in Afghanistan, so be it (Although I'm not sure anyone could tell the difference between Afghanistan undestroyed from Afghanistan destroyed). Not doing it is what brings on this candyassed $hit that is going on now. Moreover, we spread the notion of weakness to rest of the muslim world and invite more "kick me" behavior.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-02-24 12:14||   2012-02-24 12:14|| Front Page Top

#14  The Afghan people are murderous savages who spread worldwide misery with their opium and exist on an imprinted culture of crime, slavery, oppression, illiteracy, and pederasty.


I understand that the rest of the Afghans think so of the Pashtuns, Penguin.
Posted by trailing wife 2012-02-24 12:50||   2012-02-24 12:50|| Front Page Top

#15 In other words:

"we should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

- Ann Coulter
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-02-24 12:53||   2012-02-24 12:53|| Front Page Top

#16 NATO will also make me lose my damn mind. WTF
Posted by newc 2012-02-24 17:21||   2012-02-24 17:21|| Front Page Top

#17 In other news:

Pentagon announces new Apology Center:

http://theviewfromfallingdowns.blogspot.com/2012/02/pentagon-announces-new-apology-center.html

Posted by Uncle Phester 2012-02-24 19:32||   2012-02-24 19:32|| Front Page Top

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