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2009-01-31 Caribbean-Latin America
Cuba demands US return Guantanamo
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Posted by Fred 2009-01-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Yada yada. Get in the box already, puerco.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2009-01-31 00:29||   2009-01-31 00:29|| Front Page Top

#2 Now watch Obama give it to him.
Posted by Besoeker 2009-01-31 07:08||   2009-01-31 07:08|| Front Page Top

#3 You may well be right. I don't think we'll recognize our country at all in 4 years, and I think that's quite intentional on their part.
Posted by lotp 2009-01-31 08:25||   2009-01-31 08:25|| Front Page Top

#4 Cuba indefinitely leased Guantanamo to the United States in 1903 after the United States occupied the country during the 1898 Spanish-American War.

...with the United States granting Cuba its independence that Spain never did nor intended to do at the time.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-31 08:31||   2009-01-31 08:31|| Front Page Top

#5 The MSM of the time, the detestable "Yellow Press" of Pulitzer and Hearst, incited the Spanish-American War as part of their white-hot circulation wars.
It was perhaps the earliest example of feckless and amoral activist media actually influencing world events. Fidel should therefore blame their latter-day successors, rather than William McKinley's, for the loss of Guantanamo.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2009-01-31 09:19||   2009-01-31 09:19|| Front Page Top

#6 No!
It was never really part of any nation in Cuba.
It has been under US control since we took Cuba from Spain.
Posted by 3dc 2009-01-31 09:39||   2009-01-31 09:39|| Front Page Top

#7 One of the issues here is the long-term resentment some Cubans have over the Spanish-American war. To wit: they believe that their ancestors were in the process of chasing the Spanish off the island and didn't need our help. We Americans barged in at the last minute, took all the credit, and then arranged affairs on the island to suit our purposes.

We should also recall that many Americans at the time wanted to annex Cuba outright and prepare it to be a state (in retrospect, a great idea). President McKinley was afraid of European opinion (nothing new there) and declined to do that. The result was that we installed (and periodically re-installed) a tame government that did as it was told.
Posted by Steve White 2009-01-31 10:16||   2009-01-31 10:16|| Front Page Top

#8 all true, but as long as there is a Castro-style dictatorship, we should keep Gitmo open and defended.
Posted by Frank G 2009-01-31 10:23||   2009-01-31 10:23|| Front Page Top

#9 If we're going to give it back, we should move all the criminals and other refuse Castro has sent us over the years, and move them to Gitmo first. Oh, and leave there all the terrorists we can't figure out what to do with.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2009-01-31 10:45||   2009-01-31 10:45|| Front Page Top

#10 "Oh, and leave there all the terrorists we can't figure out what to do with."

Unfortunately, Glenmore, Castro would know exactly what to do with them. It would involve a 90-mile trip....
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-01-31 10:51||   2009-01-31 10:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Oh, and leave there all the terrorists we can't figure out what to do with.

Only if you cut their hamstrings first. Never leave a "live" weapon behind, or it'll be used against you.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2009-01-31 13:39|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2009-01-31 13:39|| Front Page Top

#12 Olde Dr. White is know his history.

Normalization of commercial affairs with Cuba would be more stimula than you could shake a fly-rod at.
Posted by .5MT 2009-01-31 18:47|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2009-01-31 18:47|| Front Page Top

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