Article

2005-01-25 Home Front: Politix

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by tipper 2005-01-25 8:42:39 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 In 2005, it is the blue-state Northerners, bitter from the defeat of Nov. 2, who are, ironically, wearing its robes.

Curiously, it's always the Democrats who want to split the country when they lose. Is there something karmic that makes the party that extreme, or is it just the natural home to the spoiled brats?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-01-25 9:06:46 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-01-25 9:06:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 And if Kerry had won these sanctimonious jerks would be mocking any similar calls from the "Red" states. ****ing crybabies.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2005-01-25 9:17:33 AM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2005-01-25 9:17:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Yep, and it was us Dem's in 1860 and 2004 who didn't give a rats ass about freedom and human rights. Better them all shut up and obey their masst'ers. Them's not like us white folks.

Posted by RobertByrd [KKK-WV] 2005-01-25 9:17:34 AM|| 2005-01-25 9:17:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Notice how they invoke the wording of the Declaration of Independence but seem to ignor the words of the Constitution, Article I -

"To provide for the calling forth of the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions"

Posted by Don 2005-01-25 9:21:08 AM|| 2005-01-25 9:21:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Secession makes sense if the political and cultural differences concerned are rooted in a fundamentally incompatible economic system. Slaveholding states whose economies were driven mainly by exports of cash crops indeed had a fundamentally different socio-political structure antagonistic to the North's industrializing, protectionistic political economy.

So what is the distinctive political economy of today's secessionist wannabes? Media professions, academe and interior design don't count. Try again, folks.

Posted by lex 2005-01-25 11:47:41 AM|| 2005-01-25 11:47:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Let's see: the Northerners had the legitimacy (who brought many Southerners to fight for the Union: eg Farragutt) the Navy and the industry but the Southerners had the better soldiers and generals (I know about Grant and Sherman but it took a looong time until they displaced the McLellans, Burnsides or Mc Dowells). Notice too that there were strong majorities for secession in all the slavist states.

This time the Union would have the Navy, the soldiers, the generals, at least as much industry and the legitimacy. Plus the fact that in many "Democrat" states the Democrat majority is small and given that many Democrats would not approve secession the moonbats would never get a majority accepting to secede (and still less spend blood and treasure or suffer hunger for the new CSA). In fact there would be no secession: you don't proclaim secession when you are Vermont and Massachusetts facing a war against 48 states.

Posted by JFM 2005-01-25 3:20:22 PM|| 2005-01-25 3:20:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 cmon folks - nobody serious in the 'blue states" or in the Dem party is interested in this. Its a pet of pundits and internet commentors. I dont read Salon anymore - theyve never been very serious, and while they were amusing when defending Clinton - they somehow didnt get the word from Raines et al that Clinton was NOT LEFT - theyve been a bad joke recently. Read Slate instead. No sessesh there.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-01-25 3:29:20 PM|| 2005-01-25 3:29:20 PM|| Front Page Top

10:57 nostradamus
10:47 nostradamus
23:58 trailing wife
23:57 trailing wife
23:53 Alaska Paul
23:53 3dc
23:50 Alaska Paul
23:44 Alaska Paul
23:44 smn
23:34 Jame Retief
23:30 Sock Puppet of Doom
23:27 Sock Puppet of Doom
23:24 Sike Mylwester
23:24 Zhang Fei
23:22 Zhang Fei
23:18 Sock Puppet of Doom
23:18 Sobieky
23:17 Sobieky
23:16 Sock Puppet of Doom
23:09 badanov
22:57 Sobieky
22:53 Cat D12
22:49 Mike Sylwester
22:46 Mike Sylwester