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2023-01-12 Science & Technology
REVEALED: Corrupt file and system REBOOT caused all US flights to be grounded for first time since 9/11: NOTAM system and backup were both infected with corrupt file - as pilots slam 'ridiculous' decision to ground planes
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Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top

#1 Ref #9: Merc...you have a link supporting ?
Just curious. Thanks.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-01-11 10:18|| 2023-01-11 10:18|

MERC wins the pool!
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-12 00:03||   2023-01-12 00:03|| Front Page Top

#2 This ... Government........
Posted by newc 2023-01-12 00:27||   2023-01-12 00:27|| Front Page Top

#3 
Still think there is something deeper at play given other Airline Travel events seen in the last few weeks.

Posted by NN2N1 2023-01-12 05:55||   2023-01-12 05:55|| Front Page Top

#4 /\ You will be told what station link to contact for further instructions.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-01-12 07:37||   2023-01-12 07:37|| Front Page Top

#5 After how many years in operation a critical file "suddenly" (there's that word again) gets corrupted?
Posted by Mercutio 2023-01-12 07:43||   2023-01-12 07:43|| Front Page Top

#6 "Unexpectedly" is another typically used word too, Mercutio.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-01-12 08:18||   2023-01-12 08:18|| Front Page Top

#7 "It looks like you are trying to operate airports. Would you like help?"

Yeah, Mercek's posit was disturbing in its plausibility.

Scrap metal traders from Iran is weird, especially considering the report the other week about Iran repurposing Turking commercial flyers.

DOT hiring practices and putting unqualified employees into mission critical positions is up there.

Of course, there is the ever present And.

Suspicions about a simple ooopsie and/or break seem low.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-01-12 10:43||   2023-01-12 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 The Pilots' Plot... was not. No coup for you!
Posted by Betty the Younger9310 2023-01-12 12:00||   2023-01-12 12:00|| Front Page Top

#9 They called tech services but it was an Indian guy with an indecipherable accent.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-01-12 12:40||   2023-01-12 12:40|| Front Page Top

#10 Thousands face a SECOND day of airport chaos as hundreds more flights are delayed and dozens are canceled in hangover from failure of 'antiquated' FAA system - as it's revealed the corrupted file that caused the glitch ALSO took out the backup system
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-12 12:48||   2023-01-12 12:48|| Front Page Top

#11 "You are having to open Device Mangler..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-01-12 12:52||   2023-01-12 12:52|| Front Page Top

#12 Republican files bill to make Pete Buttigieg fly commercial until the FAA shutdown and Southwest debacle are fixed: GOP piles on criticism in latest scandal after Portugal vacation during strike talks and the supply chain chaos last year
Posted by Skidmark 2023-01-12 13:00||   2023-01-12 13:00|| Front Page Top

#13 You can't make rich gheys behave like proles. In or out of bed...
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-01-12 13:14||   2023-01-12 13:14|| Front Page Top

#14 According to the FAA diversity is as important as safety. Diversity makes us more safe. They are also investigating for patriarchy, got to eliminate any hint of it.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2023-01-12 13:44||   2023-01-12 13:44|| Front Page Top

#15 And now we learn Oh Canada! had same issue on same day. Brilliant!
Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-01-12 13:47||   2023-01-12 13:47|| Front Page Top

#16 WTF he doing in Portugal, another Monkeypox Rave?
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-01-12 13:51||   2023-01-12 13:51|| Front Page Top

#17 After how many years in operation a critical file "suddenly" (there's that word again) gets corrupted?

It happens more than you think. Ever try to read a file on disk and it is corrupt? 24/7 mission critical computer systems need triple redundant systems. Like, you know, the FAA requires on aircraft.
Posted by Waldemar the Limber5043 2023-01-12 13:52||   2023-01-12 13:52|| Front Page Top

#18 ^ On such a critical system, that should not happen. Two copies? I'm splitting a gut here...
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-01-12 13:58||   2023-01-12 13:58|| Front Page Top

#19 All the big cloud providers work on mass redundancy. No backups at all.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-01-12 13:59||   2023-01-12 13:59|| Front Page Top

#20 Ever heard of Tandem? They were pioneers on mission critical business systems. They ran, for instance, the back end of 24 hour ATM machines. Triple redundancy w/ cycle by cycle error checking and majority voting. Similar for aircraft, except many have quadruple redundancy. Try putting that "on the cloud".
Posted by Waldemar the Limber5043 2023-01-12 14:22||   2023-01-12 14:22|| Front Page Top

#21 On such a critical system, that should not happen.

And how do you think designers ensure that does not happen? Take for instance when an alpha particle or cosmic ray flips a bit or several. A bit(s) that you really need to know the value. Does your cloud detect it? Isolate it? Continue operation with the non-corrupted parts?
Posted by Waldemar the Limber5043 2023-01-12 14:32||   2023-01-12 14:32|| Front Page Top

#22 It's the forced upgrade on reboot that really gets you.
Posted by KBK 2023-01-12 18:18||   2023-01-12 18:18|| Front Page Top

#23 C:###
Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-01-12 19:16||   2023-01-12 19:16|| Front Page Top

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