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2011-01-09 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Frank G 2011-01-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 What a dipshit. Nothing is out of reach for such a tyrant.

Plus, the hackers will have a work around 15 minutes after the system is announced.

Posted by DarthVader 2011-01-09 00:17|| 2011-01-09 00:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Why can't these A-Holes just leave US alone?
And I mean A-Holes.

This is a NO-GO.

Posted by newc 2011-01-09 01:31|| 2011-01-09 01:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Do it, O Enlightened One, and the Democratic Party will disappear. And a new party will be formed. From that point forward, the Republican Party will be referred to as the American left.

Posted by gorb 2011-01-09 01:36|| 2011-01-09 01:36|| Front Page Top

#4 In other ID Card news:

DoD, GSA tighten standards on contractor IDs

Posted by Besoeker 2011-01-09 01:44|| 2011-01-09 01:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Having the means to provide, and receive, positive identification over the net would be a good thing IMHO. Don't freakout. As long as it is consensual (as in you can request my photo ID and I can refuse to give it - after which you can refuse to deal with me)). Not to track activities and not be a requirement to get services or visit a website.

And this shouldn't be done by the government. The government - particularly the Federal Government should never, ever, be trusted with this.

What I'm thinking is not what Obama wants - I get the feeling he wants some sort of identifier places on each and every packet of information - even web posting, comment, etc...

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-01-09 02:23|| 2011-01-09 02:23|| Front Page Top

#6 This is a solution in search of a problem. PayPal, Amazon, and a host of other private innovators have already solved these issues. It's called online commerce, and has been working just fine without government meddling for many years now.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2011-01-09 02:52|| 2011-01-09 02:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Hey, they won't abuse it because they say they won't.

Like, there are no death panels because they said there wouldn't be. Right? Oh wait, they lied about that so they could get the bill passed.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-01-09 05:12|| 2011-01-09 05:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Here's my ID, Comrade O.

Posted by Middle Finger 2011-01-09 08:53|| 2011-01-09 08:53|| Front Page Top

#9 screwed up the highlighting. You can tell what's mine and not, though...

Posted by Frank G 2011-01-09 10:23|| 2011-01-09 10:23|| Front Page Top

#10 screwed up the highlighting. You can tell what's mine and not, though...

Fixed it for you, Frank.

Posted by trailing wife 2011-01-09 11:38|| 2011-01-09 11:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Spoken like a true Dictator, "The sheeple MUST identify themselves, and "I" Don't"

Let's see your real unfaked birth certificate first, No more evasion and False BS, we MUST show ours, You MUST show yours.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-01-09 11:41|| 2011-01-09 11:41|| Front Page Top

#12 thx TW!

Posted by Frank G 2011-01-09 11:43|| 2011-01-09 11:43|| Front Page Top

#13 Follow up on Scooter's:This is a solution in search of a problem.; IMHO the entire Obumble administration has been a solution in search of a problem; there was massive Bush fatigue and he was the shinest object out there that the sound bite jaded ADD electorate jumped for... Ohlooksquirrel!!

Posted by USN,Ret 2011-01-09 12:23|| 2011-01-09 12:23|| Front Page Top

#14 Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.

Perfect graphic. Imagine if the Federal Goverment was to mandate that all online interaction would require a "trusted identity" number. People would freak out - and rightfully so. But what if, overtime, there became a patchwork of (voluntary) internet enclaves that required consumers to have ID's for such services as online utility payment, banking, or other consumer and business transactions? Predictably, with no set standards there would be incompatability and confusion. Naturally individuals, institutions, and business alike would clamour for a "solution". And in classic Cloward/Piven fashion that solution would already be devised and ready to implement. Occasionally it's referred to as the "California Model". The strategy's monicker is coined from the onerous California vehicle emmision requirements that led to the Auto industry, itself, as the driving force for goverment to create National emmision standard. It's also known by the Orwellian name of Progressive Federalism. Or as Cass Sunstein likes to say - Nudge.

Posted by DepotGuy 2011-01-09 13:31|| 2011-01-09 13:31|| Front Page Top

#15 crazyfool: you do realize when they put their internet cops on the case you will not be able tootell them you will not show it. It will be the same as when a policeman in person ask you for your ID, you refuse you go too jail. The supreme court upheld a case a few years back saying you have too show it.

Posted by chris 2011-01-09 15:54|| 2011-01-09 15:54|| Front Page Top

#16 I thought the Obama administration was a problem in search of a solution. Then again we have our problems with government, or what passes for it, in Australia right now.
I sure wish the adults were in charge in Canberra.

Posted by Aussie Mike 2011-01-09 16:37|| 2011-01-09 16:37|| Front Page Top

#17 And yet they still won't do a tamper proof Social Security card.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2011-01-09 18:51|| 2011-01-09 18:51|| Front Page Top

#18 Internet ID is bad but just throw in this; Some are all excited about using their "smart" phones for online transactions. If credit cards cause problems can you imagine the "unintended consequences" of using the smart phones? Your whole ID tucked away on a hackable radio transmitter (which is all a cell phone is). Identity theft and stalking taken to a whole new level.

Posted by tipover 2011-01-09 20:06|| 2011-01-09 20:06|| Front Page Top

#19 agreed - I would NEVER use my blackberry for financial transactions

Posted by Frank G 2011-01-09 20:09|| 2011-01-09 20:09|| Front Page Top

#20 Commerce is one of the departments I hope the Republican Congress defunds. The Dems would never allow a bill to disestablish it, but it could definitely be starved to the point of irrelevance. (FWIW, other departments of questionable utility: Labor, Energy, Education, Agriculture. We should go back to the originals: State, War, Treasury, and Interior. HHS is too big to be killed outright, but serious attempts should be made to whittle it down.)

Posted by rwv 2011-01-09 23:17|| 2011-01-09 23:17|| Front Page Top

#21 I agree RWV - defund everything not explicity authorized by the Constitution - Including those which are under some twisted form of commerce clause.

And Chris - that is precisely why I don't want the feds (or states) having anything to do with it.

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-01-09 23:42|| 2011-01-09 23:42|| Front Page Top

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