Most Americans believe that Indians love their modern founders: Gandhi and Nehru. Most do, but fundamentalist treat them as sell-outs to the Muslims. Hindu nationalists claim all of Pakistan and Afghanistan as integral to India (or Bharat, as they refer to it). Every guru is entitled to his own opinion. Do you detect any hate in the following?
...Prabhupada started his discourse. He said that Nehru was re-born almost immediately after his death, a thing that happens only to the most sinful people. He did not even have a short-lived taste of heaven before he was born again. What was worse, is that Nehru was born this time in the form of a dog. He was a dog in a small town of Sweden. His master had another dog before the dog-Nehru was acquired by him and so the dog-Nehru had to share the love of his master with another dog.
Prabhupada explained that to be born as a dog, after having been born as a Kashmiri Brahmin in India, is a big fall. It indicated that Nehru had led a vile life, a very vile life, during his existence as a man in India. Also, Nehru's hatred for anything vaishnava did not make things any easier for him...
John can comment here, but I believe this is the equivalent of saying an American politician hates evangelical Christians from Georgia and Alabama and Texas.
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SS3550, not true. When I was a grad student in history at UT Austin, I met many Indian grad students who thought (as I do) that Gandhi was a hypocritical humbug. They also thought Nehru was a spineless weakling who should have had guts enough to tell Gandhi to pipe down in 1942 (the "Quit India" campaign).
Nehru's failure to do so resulted in the incarceration of the Congress leadership for the duration of the war. That, in turn, opened the door for Jinnah's Muslim League to grow exponentially in influence and power, the fact which eventually made partition of British India an unavoidable necessity. If India and Pakistan ever end up in a nuke exchange, a lot of the blame will rest with Nehru because he, along with Jinnah and Gandhi, had the chance to keep British India united and deliberately spurned it.
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Nehru inflicted Fabian Socialism on India and hobbled its economic growth for decades.
Hundreds of millions of Indians are condemned to a life of poverty because of this...
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and he inflicted that jacket style on the Beatles and America in the 60's. For that he should burn
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Ironically, it was the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir that saved the Indian army from being disbanded by Nehru...
Nehru disliked men in uniform and wanted to scrap the army.
From an article by Wing Commander (retd) R V Parasnis...
Soon after Independence the first commander-in-chief of the Indian armed forces, General Sir Robert Lockhart, presented a paper outlining a plan for the growth of the Indian Army to Prime Minister Nehru.
Nehru's reply: "We don't need a defence plan. Our policy is non-violence. We foresee no military threats. You can scrap the army. The police are good enough to meet our security needs."
He didn't waste much time. On September 16, 1947, he directed that the army's then strength of 280,000 be brought down to 150,000. Even in fiscal 1950-51, when the Chinese threat had begun to loom large on the horizon, 50,000 army personnel were sent home as per his original plan to disband the armed forces.
After Independence, he once noticed a few men in uniform in a small office the army had in North Block, and angrily had them evicted.
Soon after Independence he separated the army, navy, and air force from a unified command and abolished the post of commander-in-chief of the armed forces, thus bringing down the status of the seniormost military chief.
He continued to demote the status of the three service chiefs at irregular intervals in the order of precedence in the official government protocol, a practice loyally continued by successive governments to the benefit of politicians and bureaucrats.
During the 1947-48 war with Pakistan in Kashmir, Nehru interfered with purely military decisions at will, which delayed the war and changed the ultimate outcome in Pakistan's favour. He developed a precedent to violate channels and levels of communications at that time. His penchant for verbal orders to the various army commanders, of which he kept no records, violated the chain of command.
After the defeat inflicted by China, Nehru who honestly believed in India-Chinese brotherhood was shell shocked. He died a short while later.
"I remember many a time when our senior generals came to us, and wrote to the defence ministry saying that they wanted certain things... If we had had foresight, known exactly what would happen, we would have done something else... what India has learnt from the Chinese invasion is that in the world of today there is no place for weak nations... We have been living in an unreal world of our own creation."
Jawaharlal Nehru, Rajya Sabha, 1963
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"Machines be the work of the divil."
You mean they're not? These here computer thingies are certainly evil...
And in other newz...
Margaret Johnson might have looked like an easy target. But when a mugger tried to grab a chain off her neck Friday, the wheelchair-bound 56-year-old pulled out her licensed .357 pistol and shot him, police said.
Johnson said she was in Harlem on her way to a shooting range when the man, identified by police as 45-year-old Deron Johnson, came up from behind and went for the chain. "There's not much to it," she said in a brief interview. "Somebody tried to mug me, and I shot him."
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Following Deron's free emergency medical treatment and bond out:
Yo dog... tell us homeboys bout you sneakin up from beehind on dis hoe name of Margaret in a wheelchair.... and she unloads a magnum into your sorry ass.....hahahahhaaa.
Minor nit: God forbid there should be a "next time," but if there is one, kill the fucker.
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What Dave D. said.
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I doubt she could. He came at her from behind and she is wheelchair bound. She almost certainly had to shoot over her shoulder, maybe could turn a little but almost certainly couldn't lift her torso and turn to get a chest or head shot.
Still, a .357 magnum in the elbow should put a crimp in Deron's mugging habits for a good while if she was able to hit the joint itself.
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NYC issued her a handgun permit -- REALLY hard to get in the city. But the laws on self defense do not favor the shooter (to put it mildly). The mugger did not have a weapon - shooting him again and possibly killing him would almost certainly land her in jail.
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What is it the Marines say -- 'if it's worth shooting once, it's worth shooting twice?'
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lotp, most use of force laws, including NY's as far as I know, fall back on how the person was trained, and what would be considered a 'reasonable and prudent' use of deadly force. Any small arms defense instructor worth his salt (including myself) ALWAYS train the permit holder to double tap their target. The idea is to stop the attacker, and one shot is sometimes not enough. If you train someone to take two shots in rapid succession, center mass, it soon becomes instinctive. Any DA or court would recognize that double tapping is not an excessive use of deadly force, if deadly force was authorized, based on the reasons I described above. The side benefit of course, is that two shots makes the demise of assailant much more likely. I like the side benefit.
PORTLAND, Ore. A nurse returning from work discovered an intruder armed with a hammer in her home and strangled him with her bare hands, police said. Susan Kuhnhausen, 51, ran to a neighbor's house after the confrontation Wednesday night. Police found the body of Edward Dalton Haffey, 59, a convicted felon with a long police record. Officer Katherine Kent said homicide detectives have determined that Kuhnhausen killed Haffey in self-defense. She said a prosecutor is investigating but that the case is not expected to go to a grand jury.
She's an emergency room nurse. She's used to dealing with crisis...
Police said there was no obvious sign of forced entry at the house when Kuhnhausen, an emergency room nurse at Providence Portland Medical Center, got home from work shortly after 6 p.m. Under Oregon law people can use reasonable deadly force when defending themselves against an intruder or burglar in their homes. Kuhnhausen was treated and released for minor injuries at Providence.
Haffey, about 5-foot-9 and 180 pounds, had convictions including conspiracy to commit aggravated murder, robbery, drug charges and possession of burglary tools. Neighbors said Kuhnhausen's size 5-foot-7 and 260 pounds may have given her an advantage. "Everyone that I've talked to says 'Hurray for Susan,' said neighbor Annie Warnock, who called 911. "You didn't need to calm her. She's an emergency room nurse. She's used to dealing with crisis."
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Hungry Eddie failed to see the OFF LIMITS sign in Susan's kitchen. He was sitting quietly in the pantry having just polished off his second piece of homemake apple pie and a glass of milk when .... her stethoscope wrapped itself around his windpipe.
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Guy I know is a retired show dog handler, one of the top ones out there when he was in the business. He's short, compact, blind in one eye.
In the late 80s and 90s, PETA and their ilk had a habit of coming to dog shows and releasing beloved and valuable animals to run out into the highway to be hit by cars or into the woods to often starve or drown. This was called "liberating" them from the "slavery" they were under. One of the dogs they killed this way was among the top ~5 dogs in competition that year.
Handler had studied judo for years. Never took karate so he didn't have to register his hands. Caught two pimply 20-something guys trying to release dogs from his setup. While "defending" himself he broke two arms and a leg. Police looked at the 5'7" greyhaired, neatly attired and softspoken guy and at the 20-something idiots and no charges were pressed.
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There was a young Air Force medtech I knew in Panama 1967-68 who was 5'2" tall and about 90 pounds after a soaking rain. She got hassled by a bunch of Army types one night at the service club. She put four of them in the hospital and left two more "walking wounded" - one of which probably never had children. I don't mess with anybody in the medical profession...
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Big deal, the USA have one who not only talk, but makes movies and win palmes d'or as well...
SEOUL, South Korea - He's no Dumbo the Flying Elephant but with his ability to "speak," perhaps as close to the Disney cartoon character as a real life elephant can get.
The Everland amusement park said Friday its 16-year-old male Asian elephant, named Kosik, can make sounds imitating up to eight Korean words, including "sit," "no," "yes," and "lie down."
The pachyderm produces humanlike sounds by putting his trunk in his mouth and shaking it while exhaling similar to how people whistle with their fingers. But the park said it's unclear if Kosik knows the meaning of the sounds he makes.
Kim Jong-gap, who has been Kosik's keeper for 10 years, said he first heard the elephant speak two years ago.
"It was hard to believe myself at first," Kim said in a statement. "As I watched Kosik say something after that, I realized he was mimicking my words."
There have been studies that suggest elephants can mimic sounds, but the park claims that Kosik displays the ability to imitate a human voice.
Spectrograms show Kosik's voice frequency when he makes human sounds are similar to his keeper's, Everland said.
"We are speculating that Kosik learned to speak as he spent a long time with his keeper," said Kwon Su-wan, head of the park's zoo. "We plan to conduct further studies with keepers, veterinarians and scientists on whether Kosik understands the meaning of these words as he speaks them."
Kosik will showcase his ability to the public starting Saturday at the park in Yongin, some 30 miles south of Seoul.
In a study published in the journal Nature last year, researchers found that elephants can learn to imitate sounds, according to Everland. The study featured the case of an elephant mimicking truck noises.
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Democratic Senate candidate Jim Webb has a television ad ready to air featuring praise from his late boss Ronald Reagan - and Nancy Reagan called on him Friday to cancel it. Webb, who was Reagan's Navy secretary before Webb switched to the Democratic Party, uses the ultimate GOP icon to send a sentimental message to conservatives and moderates courted by his Republican opponent, Sen. George Allen. The ad is scheduled to begin airing next week.
But a three-paragraph letter from the former first lady's office said the use of footage of Reagan, who died in 2004, is ``neither authorized nor appropriate.''
The 30-second ad opens with video of Reagan praising Webb during a commencement address at the U.S. Naval Academy in 1985, when Reagan was president and Webb, a Navy grad, was an assistant secretary of defense. ``James' gallantry as a Marine in Vietnam won him the Navy Cross and other decorations,'' Reagan says on the video.
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Good for her. Any formerly sane person who contracts BDS shouldn't be able to fall back on their old associations only when it's convenient.
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PORTLAND, Ore. A nurse returning from work discovered an intruder armed with a hammer in her home and strangled him with her bare hands, police said. Susan Kuhnhausen, 51, ran to a neighbor's house after the confrontation Wednesday night. Police found the body of Edward Dalton Haffey, 59, a convicted felon with a long police record. Officer Katherine Kent said homicide detectives have determined that Kuhnhausen killed Haffey in self-defense. She said a prosecutor is investigating but that the case is not expected to go to a grand jury.
