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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Woman Dies After Airport Arrest - Darwin Contestant?
A woman late to her plane became irate, was put in handcuffs and was later found dead in a holding cell, police said. Authorities were investigating Saturday if the woman choked herself while trying to get free from the handcuffs. Carol Ann Gotbaum, 45, of New York, was arrested Friday at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport after a conflict with gate crews who refused to allow her to board a plane, said Sgt. Andy Hill, a Phoenix police spokesman.
A sound decision, it seems
The airline said the plane was already preparing to depart. She was rebooked on the next flight, but "she became extremely irate, apparently running up and down the gate area," US Airways spokesman Derek Hanna said Saturday.
clue 1
Officers handcuffed her and took her to the holding room, where she kept screaming, authorities said. Hill said officers checked on her when she stopped screaming and found her unresponsive.
clue 2
Hill said it appears Gotbaum may have tried to get out of her handcuffs, became tangled in the process and the cuffs ended up around her neck. A cause of death will be determined by the Maricopa County Medical Examiner.

"She was very agitated and irate and angry," Hill said. "These are the things that led to the disorderly conduct arrest."
clue 3
Authorities said neither a Taser nor pepper spray was used on the woman.
although a beating was in order

what is it about flying that makes people act like assholes?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/30/2007 12:05 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  CRAP - Mods, please move to Local? My bad
Posted by: Frank G || 09/30/2007 12:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Dear Sheriff Joe Arpaio, please cancell that female bunk reservation. We told her she was headed your way and she hung herself with the cuffs, go figure!
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/30/2007 12:24 Comments || Top||

#3  people from NYC get so uppity when visiting the rest of the country, like the rest of us owe them something, then they play the aggressive card in hopes of intimidating people. Guess we won this round, touche
Posted by: Hupusoth Scourge of the Infinitesmal7702 || 09/30/2007 13:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Cocaine can make people act like that and then cause them to die suddenly. Await toxicology results.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/30/2007 15:29 Comments || Top||

#5  I knew an old guy who described people who died like this as having perished from "a dog stroke."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/30/2007 16:40 Comments || Top||

#6 
what is it about flying that makes people act like assholes?


Coincidence maybe, but I don't recall it being such a problem before the TSA.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/30/2007 16:46 Comments || Top||

#7  "the woman choked herself while trying to get free from the handcuffs ... may have tried to get out of her handcuffs, became tangled in the process and the cuffs ended up around her neck"

Do what?

Can anybody explain this? I just cannot picture it.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/30/2007 17:24 Comments || Top||

#8  what is it about flying that makes people act like assholes?

I dunno. Mebbe it's 'cause their arms get so sore?

Can anybody explain this?

Actually, it's very simple. First, you dislocate both of your shoulders ...
Posted by: Zenster || 09/30/2007 18:00 Comments || Top||

#9  people acted like assholes on flights LONG before TSA. It's the lack of brutal beat-downs by fellow passengers that encourages the misbehaviour. I'd reverse the trend
Posted by: Frank G || 09/30/2007 18:44 Comments || Top||

#10  I understand irate - everyone looses their temper from time to time.

What I don't understand is how she died in custody. The authorities are required to take care of her while in custody - that also means no suicides, accidental or otherwise.

Died by being strangled by handcuffs while in the holding room? Whoever came up with that explanation needs to be charged.
Posted by: flash91 || 09/30/2007 21:16 Comments || Top||

#11  charged with what? Not properly babysitting? If some dipshit arrested on, let's say, a TRO violation decides to kill themselves, is that someone else's fault? Jeebus, flash91.....barring evidence to the contrary, call it chlorine in the gene pool, and good f^cking riddance
Posted by: Frank G || 09/30/2007 21:25 Comments || Top||

#12  Or, to put it a little more politely, unless the arrestee is obviously so stoned that she a menace to herself, Law enforcement would have no reason to stand over this person. In fact, not having an audience might get her to calm down. If, that is, the lady had something resembling common sense.
Nope, the blame falls squarely on the woman herself.
Posted by: mom || 09/30/2007 21:40 Comments || Top||

#13  I disagree, mom. The airport authority assumed full responsibility for the health and safety of its prisoner the moment they slapped on the handcuffs.

If she was a clear danger to herself and/or others, she should have had constant supervision and medical staff called immediately.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/30/2007 22:29 Comments || Top||

#14  Sea, If she was a clear danger to herself and/or others

That is the big IF. She was irate, but I don't think she had written on her forehead that she is a Darwin Award competitor.
Posted by: twobyfour || 09/30/2007 23:27 Comments || Top||


Duke Apologizes to Lacrosse Players
DURHAM, N.C. (AP) - Duke University President Richard Brodhead apologized Saturday for not better supporting the men's lacrosse team and their families after three players were falsely accused in last year's highly publicized rape scandal.

Brodhead, speaking at the university's law school, said he regretted Duke's "failure to reach out" in a "time of extraordinary peril" after a woman accused three players of raping her at a March 2006 party thrown by the team.

"Given the complexities of this case, getting the communication right would never have been easy," Brodhead said. "But the fact is that we did not get it right, causing the families to feel abandoned when they were most in need of support. This was a mistake. I take responsibility for it and I apologize for it."

Brodhead spoke at a school-sponsored forum on legal and ethical issues common to high-profile cases, and he received a standing ovation following his speech.

He left afterward and school officials said he would not be available for further comment.

As authorities began to investigate the allegations, Brodhead and the university initially suspended the highly ranked team from play. He later canceled the remainder of its season and ousted longtime coach Mike Pressler. Meanwhile, Durham County prosecutor Mike Nifong labeled the team "hooligans" as he searched for suspects.

But even as Nifong won indictments against players Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and Dave Evans, it became clear the allegations had no merit.

State prosecutors determined in April the accuser's story was a lie, and North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper called the three players innocent victims of Nifong's "tragic rush to accuse."

Nifong was disbarred in June for more than two dozen violations of the state bar's rules of professional conduct, including withholding results of critical DNA tests, and resigned from office. He spent one night in jail earlier this month after a judge held him in criminal contempt of court for lying to a court about having provided those test results to defense attorneys.

In the early days of the case, Brodhead was generally cautious in his comments, saying the players should be presumed innocent while also insisting the crimes alleged had no place at the elite private university.

Brodhead said Saturday he worried that making numerous public comments could be interpreted as an attempt by Duke to "influence the judicial process," especially since Nifong was insisting a crime had occurred.

That may have created an impression that Duke did not care about the accused students, Brodhead said, which he said was untrue but still something he regrets.

"Duke needed to be clear that it demanded fair treatment for its students," he said. "I took that completely for granted. If anyone doubted it, then I should have been more explicit, especially as the evidence mounted that the prosecutor was not acting in accordance with the standards of his profession."

Brodhead also said the school could have done more to show that some members of Duke's faculty who were openly critical of the lacrosse team did not speak for the university as a whole.

Duke has reached private settlements with Pressler, now the coach at Division II Bryant in Rhode Island, as well as the three cleared players and a teammate who was not indicted but accused a professor of giving him a failing grade because he was a lacrosse player.

Brodhead said the university is planning a national conference of lawyers, educators and student affairs leaders to discuss how schools should deal with students facing serious criminal charges.
<== My suggestion

(Includes innocent until proven guilty, etc.)
Tried and proven (usually, depends on $$$ involved).
No need to reinvent the wheel.
Posted by: gorb || 09/30/2007 05:49 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Horse. Barn.

When you deal with the Group of 88 87 like Harvard dealt with Larry Summers, then you can speak with sincerity. Remind the 'Group' that while they have free speech, they are not free from repercussions. If in the 70s, a similar group of 'intellectuals' burnt a cross on a black fraternity's lawn, where would their asses be today? They've [at least one did] had more than enough time to abjectly apologize and honestly reconsider their own mindless bigotry. Time's up. Till then, you're an expensive techvo paper mill with a Potemkin village frontage of an institution of 'higher learning'. There is no intellect.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/30/2007 8:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Donations must have declined precipitously. If Duke is smart, Brodhead is gone soon.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/30/2007 8:30 Comments || Top||

#3  They're facing a lawsuit from some of the unindicted players.
Posted by: lotp || 09/30/2007 8:31 Comments || Top||

#4  "Failure to reach out" is a peculiar description for a lynch mob. Why not just come out and say hey we tried to screw you. It didn't work. Sorry.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/30/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#5  P2K is on the mark. Until the hysterical race-baiters of the Faculty (Group of 88 assholes) suffer consequences, personal and professional, this isn't over. Note that few were from the "hard" sciences, mostly the social studies academia. *spit*
Posted by: Frank G || 09/30/2007 10:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Sue each and every one of the gang of 88. First by the players who were not charged, and then by the ones who were exonerated.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/30/2007 11:14 Comments || Top||

#7  "Reach out" and hang the lawyer and the whores from the same tree. That will probably give pause to a reocurrence.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/30/2007 11:57 Comments || Top||

#8  sadly, some rich Duke graduates will be fooled by this insincere apology

there ought to be a way for donors to the endowment fund to get their money back,

Posted by: mhw || 09/30/2007 15:43 Comments || Top||

#9  "Duke Kinda Sorta But Not Really Apologizes to Lacrosse Players in a Pathetic Effort to Cover Its Ass"

There - fixed.

Accuracy is important.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/30/2007 17:28 Comments || Top||

#10  Too little too late. The honorable thing to do would be to resign -- that's not gonna happen. The faculty is comfortably ensconced in tenure. I say let the lawsuits begin.
Posted by: regular joe || 09/30/2007 17:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Hey...Where's Jesse Jackson and The Right Reverend Al? I thought those race hustlers lived for this sort of event?
Posted by: anymouse || 09/30/2007 20:26 Comments || Top||

#12  I imagine the number of applicants to the freshman class has gone down precipitously, especially the most competitive academic students who can so easily go to a school whose professors don't assume they're rapacious beasts.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/30/2007 20:34 Comments || Top||

#13  to hell wiht Brodhead - I want to see the 88 FIRED or else sued for libel with malice aforethought.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/30/2007 23:34 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Jackie Stewart, a Grand Prix survivor's tale
Excerpt below. The entire essay is 3 pages long.

Imagine an 11-year window of time when you lose 57 – repeat 57 – friends and colleagues, often watching them die in horrific circumstances doing exactly what you do, weekend after weekend.

To be a racing driver between 1963 and 1973 was to accept not the possibility, but the probability of death. If an F1 driver was to race for five years or more, he would be more likely to lose his life on the track than to survive and retire.

What the cold statistics don't record is the hush that used to descend over the pit lane when an ambulance appeared… the sense of foreboding that spread through this small community when a plume of black smoke rose on the other side of the circuit… the unimaginably brutal way people died… how it felt to be a driver continuing a race, speeding by and catching a glimpse of a crumpled car or the body of a friend… the agony of a devastated wife… the fear in the eyes of other wives as they wondered if it might be their turn next.

Hardly a day goes by when I don't think of those who died during that period, particularly my closest friends Jimmy Clark, Jochen Rindt and François Cevert. The sense of loss is always there, lingering just below the surface.

Every now and then this reservoir overflows. This is odd because back then, when I was immersed in the aftermath of so many accidents and attending so many funerals, I used to feel pain but hardly ever cried. I somehow taught myself to compartmentalise my emotions, to lock them in a box and put them away.

That enabled me to do whatever needed to be done, whether it was to make arrangements with undertakers or make sure the widow was being looked after. Then I would be able to climb back into my car and go racing again.

I believed there was a little pouch somewhere inside my chest containing a rich and precious potion that effectively diluted grief and pain, and helped me carry on; but it has emptied as the years have passed.

There is now no potion left, and I find myself more emotional and vulnerable than I ever did when racing. A psychologist would have a field day analysing the repressed emotions, maybe even detecting a subconscious sense of guilt that I have been allowed to survive and enjoy the wonderful opportunities so many of my friends were denied.

We were so much more than just an itinerant group of professional sportsmen. We were a small, tight-knit group of friends who travelled together, stayed in the same hotels, partied, holidayed together and had wives who became close as well.

But every now and then, because we were racing in exposed cars on amazingly dangerous circuits, one of us would have a shunt and be killed. As drivers we accepted the risk, partly because we were paid reasonably well, partly because that was just what we did, but mainly because we were stimulated by driving fast and living fast.
Posted by: mrp || 09/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  :(

RIP Ronnie Peterson, Jimmy Clark. :(

Ima go cry. Thank Gawd for Sir Jackie Stewart.
Posted by: Jack Rubenstein || 09/30/2007 11:08 Comments || Top||

#2  The Lord is be with you.
And you too.

Fomula Uno is a dangerous game.
I pray before every race.

This is 2 weeks after SPA the most dangerous course left. Jackie Stewart led the walk-out that ensured aramco barriers would be installed.

Oh Lord!
From the broken suspensions,
From the bad tires,
From the rain,
From the fog
From the Oil

Lord protect us.

We humbly beseach you Lord that we might live out our natural lives, that we might talk to our grandchildren about our youth. This said, we humbly apologize for temping you Lord, but sadly in our weakness it was all that we could do. Please in your mercy help us keep our chilrruns away from Weber carbs, aluminum blocks, nitro, bEER,RACE HORSES, Wymens AND MOST ESPECIALLY THEM DAMN DAWGS! Please to have mercy upon us in yawls divine hourmor. etc.

You is already got my email Ima think?
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 09/30/2007 11:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Found this in the queue and thought I'd better forward it, Half.

Re: recent prayers

You were doing fine until you mentioned the wymens.

And especially the dawgs.

--- G*D
Posted by: lotp || 09/30/2007 11:54 Comments || Top||

#4  ;-)
Posted by: lotp || 09/30/2007 11:55 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudi divorces wife for watching male TV host
YJCMTSU, nor would you want to.
RIYADH - A Saudi man divorced his wife for watching alone a television programme presented by a male, an act he deemed immoral, the Al Shams newspaper reported on Saturday. The man, whom the paper did not identify, ended his marriage on the grounds his wife was effectively alone with an unrelated man, which is forbidden under the strict Islamic law enforced in the ultra-conservative kingdom, the paper said.

Men in Saudi Arabia have the authority to divorce their wives without resort to the courts.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The poor man [Hubby] had to endure the dis-honor of an UNRELATED MAN having relations with his UNFAITHFUL wife thru the tee wee screen!!

the woman... OMG what a slut!
Posted by: Red Dawg || 09/30/2007 5:15 Comments || Top||

#2  ... thus making himself more pious than every other muslim on the planet and ensuring him the highest position in heaven.

Or maybe he just didn't like his wife.
Posted by: gorb || 09/30/2007 5:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Now her family is going to have to kill her to preserve her "honour".
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble || 09/30/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#4  More likely she gets to move to Divorced Wives Street, and try to support herself in whatever ways are available to a woman with few if any salable skills.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/30/2007 20:37 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Calcutta High Court tries to save Victoria Memorial from pollution
The Calcutta High Court has ordered the city authorities to adopt a number of measures to protect the city's historic Victoria Memorial from pollution.

The court order bans fairs and public gatherings near the monument and removal of traffic signals and car parking spaces. The city's main bus terminal has been given six months to relocate. Made in the early 20th-century, the monument is a memorial to the British monarch, Queen Victoria. It is one of Calcutta's most famous monuments.

The court order came in response to a petition filed by environmentalist Subhas Dutta who said pollution was ruining the monument. Giving their ruling, Justice Bhaskar Bhattacharya and RS Bandiopadhyay said no hotel or restaurant around the memorial will be allowed to cook with coal or any other fuel that emits smoke and fumes. The court said they have to use cleaner fuel such as cooking gas.

The city's main bus terminus at Esplanade will have to be moved somewhere else, at least three kilometres away from the monument, the judges said. Mr Dutta has welcomed the court order and called upon the West Bengal state government and the Calcutta city municipal authorities to implement the order without any delay.

"I have reasons to believe the government may try to drag its feet. They should not do that," Mr Dutta said. "This historical monument will be history if this state of affairs continues for another 25-30 years. "The pollution has to be checked, also the erosion, as there are already several cracks in the building."

The environmentalist filed a case in the High Court after a report by India's Central Pollution Control Board said the elegant marble and sandstone structure was in danger of substantial damage. Mr Dutta demanded that the monument should not be rented out for public and private functions because of risk of damage.

The grounds of the memorial were rented out for the wedding ceremony of the son of business tycoon Lakshmi Mittal a few years ago, leading to a public outcry. The monument was built by British Viceroy Lord Curzon in the memory of Queen Victoria. It is said to be second only to the Taj Mahal in beauty and historical importance.
Posted by: john frum || 09/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
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Posted by: john frum || 09/30/2007 5:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Official website of Victoria Memorial
Posted by: john frum || 09/30/2007 6:54 Comments || Top||

#3  They took so long building the memorial that it was soon overshadowed by other Raj era buildings...

President's House


India Gate
Posted by: john frum || 09/30/2007 8:25 Comments || Top||

#4  India still builds 'em on a grand scale... this is the newly built Akshardham temple







Posted by: john frum || 09/30/2007 8:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Once again, thanks for the pics, John. Fabulous architecture.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/30/2007 13:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Years ago I had an invitation to attend an employee's wedding back in India. Other commitments made it impossible to accept, but it's on my list of places I want to start to see someday (knowing it's not a place you 'see' in any one or two trips).
Posted by: lotp || 09/30/2007 13:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Can we outsource the rebuilding of the WTC site to India too?

Posted by: Eric Jablow || 09/30/2007 23:52 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Nigerian Moslems Debate With Nigerian Christians About Religion
From Compass Direct

Death threats and other dangers here drove most of the members of a church of converts from Islam to other parts of northern Nigeria – yet a fellowship remains. Of the 25 converts who formed a church in this city [Maiduguri] in the northeastern state of Borno two years ago, only three remain. Still, while worshipping separately in the towns where they now reside, once a month the converts brave the threats of Islamic extremists and family members to return to Maiduguri to secretly pray and praise together.

“The venue and time is agreed among themselves, and the venue is also changed every meeting so that they are not attacked,” said the Rev. Titus Dama Pona, founder of Good Way Mission, who planted the church, Kanuri Christian Fellowship, in September 2005. Pona is the pastor of the only known underground fellowship in Nigeria, a group said to be the first church among the Kanuri and Shuwa Arab ethnic groups in the Islamic enclave of Borno. .... Three out of the 25 converts, Pona said, are training in theological institutions with the hope of reaching their own people with the gospel.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 09/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Baba Bawa believes brave Borno blacks beleaguered by blaspheming backslidden bigots.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/30/2007 4:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Pona left the church that day with a heavy heart – but also with a determination to learn more about Christianity and to make a decision.

All the prophets in the Bible recieved thier messages from God Himself. Mohammed claims he recieved his messages from Gabriel, an angel.
Posted by: Lampedusa Glagum1736 || 09/30/2007 12:01 Comments || Top||

#3  One wonders if Compass Direct ever gives a sense of the how many Muslims have been converting to Christianity... and whether there is a trend line either up or down post-9/11.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/30/2007 20:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, some of the Saudis were ranting a few months ago about 666 muslims converting to Christianity a day because of Christian Radio. Interesting number that.
Posted by: mom || 09/30/2007 21:44 Comments || Top||

#5  mom, I remember another, I think in Malaysia, talking about 6 million having converted -- another evocative number.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/30/2007 21:52 Comments || Top||


Pakistani Moslems Debate With Pakistani Christians About Religion
From Compass Direct
Christians in the Afghan-border region 120 miles north of Peshawar say that extremists from the Taliban movement, which ruled most of Afghanistan from 1995 to 2001, have targeted them in recent months. .... The order to cover up under the full-body robe that leaves only the hands and eyes visible may affect Christians at the Catholic-run Public High School in Sangota. The all-girls school had already closed down for a week this month after being threatened with suicide attacks for supposedly converting students to Christianity. ....

The all-girls school re-opened its doors on September 17 after a threat letter from Muslim extremists forced it to shut down for a week. Entitled “Red Notice for Public School Sangota, (The Factory of Englishmen),” a September 8 letter accused the nuns of involving students in adultery, according to a Union of Catholic News for Asia (UCAN) article. The Urdu-language note said that Christian teachers were converting Muslim students, who make up more than 99 percent of the schools 950 students, to Christianity. The Catholic Church’s National Commission for Justice and Peace reported that the extremists also told parents to withdraw their girls and place them in Islamic schools. The letter threatened suicide bombings if the school did not require its students to wear burqas and fire all Christian and male teachers by September 17. Only half of the students returned when the high school reopened its doors on September 17 with assurances of increased security from local officials, UCAN reported.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 09/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Seething shari'a suiciders scare students subsequently shutting Sangota schools!
Posted by: Zenster || 09/30/2007 4:08 Comments || Top||

#2  WAFF.com > QATAR > first Muslim Nation to convert to Christianity; + MIDDLE EAST > CHRISTIANITY STRUGGLING BUT WINNING NEW CONVERTS. Christians + non-Muslims also economically prospering-vibrant despite local backlashes for WOT-Iraq.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/30/2007 23:13 Comments || Top||


Turkish Moslems Debate with Turkish Christians About Religion
From Compass Direct
An e-mail message to several Turkish Protestant leaders in June surfaced in the Turkish press last week, revealing the names of Malatya officials alleged to have plotted the murder of three Christians there last April. The Firat (Mediterranean) News Agency (ANF) reported on September 18 that an anonymous e-mail message signed simply, “A.A.” had named a colonel in the Malatya gendarmerie, along with an Islamic faculty member, as instigators of the plot to kill the three Christians. The ANF article identified the petty officer as Mehmet Ulger but gave only the initials of several others.

A subsequent release from Birgun newspaper on September 19, however, listed the name of the faculty member as Ruhi Babat. It also identified a member of parliament from Malatya, one military commander and another suspect, all allegedly involved in the plot. .... Babat has written a university thesis on missionary activities in Turkey. ....

On April 18 at the Zirve Publishing office in Malatya in southeastern Turkey, two Turkish converts to Christianity and a German Christian were bound hand and foot, tortured with multiple stab wounds and had their throats cut. The victims were pastor Necati Aydin, 36; Ugur Yuksel, 32; and Tilmann Geske, 46. The ritual slayings appeared to be a deliberate observance of the Quranic instruction to “strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers” by smiting them above the neck and striking every finger (Surah 8:12). The victims’ fingertips were sliced repeatedly and their windpipes and esophagi severed.

The Malatya revelations were further stoked in the public forum on September 21, when FOX TV’s widely viewed Friday night “Objective” talk show hosted a controversial Turkish folk singer and his lyricist. Singer Ismail Turut and lyrics writer Arif Sirin are facing possible criminal charges for their racist song “Don’t Make Any Plans,” which appeared earlier this month with video images on website YouTube eulogizing the teenage killer of Armenian Christian journalist Hrant Dink last January.

The song concludes with the words, “If a person betrays the country, he is finished off. The sun of Turks and Islam will never set in the Black Sea.” During the broadcast, Sirin expressed hostile views against Christian missionary activities in Turkey, criticizing the three murdered Christians for “selling snails [forbidden food for observant Muslims] in a Muslim neighborhood.” .....
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 09/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  criticizing the three murdered Christians for “selling snails [forbidden food for observant Muslims] in a Muslim neighborhood.”

Extra! ... Extra! Endlessly expedited escargot executions expected!
Posted by: Zenster || 09/30/2007 4:01 Comments || Top||

#2  When will we see "Shaolin monks debate religion with Moslems"?
Posted by: gromgoru || 09/30/2007 14:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Mike S., there are sadly so many of these stories you might want to restrict this to a no more than once-weekly round-up, like "Nuggets from the Urdu Press", the RAB tales from Bangladesh and Pappy's sadly infrequent Pirates reports. We know the Muslims do dreadful things to the infidels and apostates in their midst, so it's more important to get a feel of trends and where it's happening. If you embed the link for each separate report in the heading for that Nugget, those who are interested can click through for the details. It truly would be a great help for me -- when there are too many details I lose track of the big picture. Thanks so much!
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/30/2007 20:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Mike doesn't edit - he only purges
Posted by: Frank G || 09/30/2007 21:15 Comments || Top||



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