A Las Vegas law prohibiting strippers from fondling customers during lap dances is unconstitutionally vague, a judge ruled.
Ohfergawdsake! There's nothing vague about a lap dance!
District Court Judge Sally Loehrer affirmed a lower court ruling that as many as five misdemeanor criminal cases filed against Las Vegas strippers should be dismissed. Friday's ruling affects only dancers within city limits. The Clark County Commission in 2002 limited touching between strippers and patrons during private lap dances, specifically barring strippers from touching or sitting on the customer's genital area. But the municipal code was not as specific, saying only that strippers and their patrons should not ``fondle'' or ``caress'' each other. City attorneys told Loehrer touching is illegal when dancers engage in contact aimed at sexually arousing the customer. But defense lawyer James Colin argued the lack of specifics makes it impossible to enforce the law. ``It's too confusing,'' Colin said. ``No one knows.''
He's just doing his job, honest.
Under Loehrer's ruling, no dancer in the city can be arrested for violating the municipal code. The city is considering an appeal.
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01/24/2005 1:23:14 AM ||
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Surely male arousal is fairly easily gauged? At least for the purposes of the policeman making the arrest.
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More important than any of the above: Who wants to be the first to codify in state law that: Sexual arousal in a male is defined as an erection. The arresting officer must gage the 'quality' of the erection before an arrest can be made and must testify in court the touching did not contribute to the erection.
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I am certain that someone is out there doing plenty of research, groping for an understanding, straining to gauge the depths of the problem, thrusting with all of their might to reach . . . ummm . . . what was I talking about . . . ?
Posted by: Jame Retief ||
01/24/2005 7:02 Comments ||
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I thought that was the point of a lap dance. Not that I would personally know or anything, I mean , oh, forget it.
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
01/24/2005 7:33 Comments ||
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oh please...
come on guys, you've beat it long enough. Get off it already.
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Oh come on. This is a victimless crime, if it is even a crime. For those thinking that lap dancing will lead directly to sex with a stripper, you couldn't be more wrong. I spent a lot of time researching this in my younger years and just because she will do a lap dance doesn't mean she will have sex with you. The could have the same contact (or more) in any one of the many dance clubs in Vegas or any other city.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis ||
01/24/2005 10:43 Comments ||
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Lap dancing and strip clubs are a municipal nuisance, no worse than islamist terror.
Posted by: Do You Know Who I Am? ||
01/24/2005 10:47 Comments ||
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More people transfer AIDs with contacts begun at straight and gay bars in Las Vegas, than any establishment offering lap dances. One establishment operates on setting up people for potential exchanges of precious body fluids. The other only offers teasing. Now, which is a real threat to public health and safety?
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Prostitution is no worse than terrorism. A nuisance, really, and one we need to learn to live with.
Posted by: Do You Know Who I Am? ||
01/24/2005 15:07 Comments ||
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The few tittie bars I've been in,if you so much as look like your going to touch one of the girls your going to have a big ass,mean mofo yanking your ass up by the short hair.
State Sen. John Ford testified in a juvenile court hearing that he keeps two homes, living with two different women whose children he fathered. Ford's testimony was part of his defense in a child support case. The Memphis Democrat heads a Senate committee that guides the state's child welfare policies, and for the past year he's tried to make use of a law he authored that keeps court-ordered support lower when a father is financially responsible for other children.
In a Juvenile Court hearing last year that is set for a follow-up hearing on Tuesday, Ford said he lives some days with ex-wife Tamara Mitchell-Ford and the three children they had together. On others, he stays with his longtime girlfriend, Connie Mathews, and their two children. Ford and Mitchell-Ford went through a bitter divorce in 2002 that led to Mitchell-Ford's jailing after she plowed her car through Mathews' Collierville home. Ford said he pays nearly all bills for both families. They stay in houses he owns and where he also lives, though neither home is in his South Memphis Senate district. "You have two homes?" Referee Felicia Hogan asks during the tape recorded hearing from November. "Well, that's unusual."
"Not necessarily," Ford shot back. "I know people who got five." Hogan responded: "For child support purposes that's unusual, let me put it that way then."
Ford is battling a suit by a third woman, Dana Smith, who is trying to increase his court-ordered support of a 10-year-old girl he fathered. Smith, a former employee under Ford when he was General Sessions Clerk, won a 1996 sexual harassment verdict against him. Ford contends that any increase for Smith should be tempered by his financial obligations to his other five minor children. None of those children is subject to child support orders. In the hearing, Ford argued all five children live in his household — a household that encompasses two homes — and because of that he is exempt from rules requiring strict proof of his financial support of them. Hogan rejected Ford's request, saying he must produce evidence of bills paid if he wants credit to lessen any modification of Smith's child support.
Mitchell-Ford told The Commercial Appeal newspaper last week said she can verify at least some of Ford's contentions. She said she is six months pregnant, and the father, she said, is John Ford, now 62. "John is over here every single day, if not staying here," she said. Ford did not respond to messages left at his Nashville and Memphis offices. Mathews could not be reached. Ford's comments were part of a hearing more than two years after Smith first petitioned Juvenile Court to increase the senator's $500-a-month support. Ford's income has risen dramatically in recent years. Evidence presented in the hearing showed Ford's gross income reached $356,899 in 2003 and $255,752 in 2002. Ford said most of that comes from his private insurance and real estate consulting business, though specific sources remain a secret. At Ford's request, Hogan ordered state's attorney Joseph Little to keep confidential receipts and documented expenses Ford was ordered to hand over.
Disclosure "would expose all of my business interests and everything. It would put me in imminent danger of a lot of different things I don't want to explain in here," Ford told the court.
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On hearing the reason that a woman and her husband had twelve children was because "I love children and I love my husband" Groucho Marx sai, "I love my cigar, too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while".
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
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Must have gone to the Bill Clinton Parenting and Marriage School. Poor ladies-where that thing has been...Poor kids-they may end up confused their whole lives about what a father is supposed to be...
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This is not surprising when you consider it's Ford. The guy is a certified crook from the Communist Enclave of Memphis. He views the State budget as his own personal slush fund.
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A Las Vegas law prohibiting strippers from fondling customers during lap dances is unconstitutionally vague, a judge ruled. 
State Sen. John Ford testified in a juvenile court hearing that he keeps two homes, living with two different women whose children he fathered. Ford's testimony was part of his defense in a child support case. The Memphis Democrat heads a Senate committee that guides the state's child welfare policies, and for the past year he's tried to make use of a law he authored that keeps court-ordered support lower when a father is financially responsible for other children. 
