A seemingly bizarre statement, considering the attacking force was responsible for the fire that caused the smoke. In fairness however, what did the autopsy reveal as the cause of death? Assuming there was an autopsy, which may be a rather large assumption.
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After he was beaten, buggered, shot and left to die in a burning building, he died of smoke inhalation. Nice try, Eleanor, but it doesn't mean Benghazi didn't happen.
Don't need to get it right, just repeat the lies that she's told to say, convincingly.
She failled.
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Interesting actually, Clift's or the regime's attempt at disestablishing criminal activity. The first attempt at 'disestablishing' events dealt with terrorist activity. Obviously this attempt failed, and everyone now is cognizant of the flimsy video ruse, and the AQ connections, affiliate, or outright direct actions.
Perhaps the next attempt at 'disestablishment' will be that of POTUS' knowledge of actual events; ie. plausible deniability. This will be a very difficult due to the fact that someone would have then had to have acted in his behalf on that fateful night, which is nearly inconceivable.
Setting all emotion aside, in her congressional testimony and infamous outburst "what difference does it make," the Hildebeast actually brought focus to the crux of the entire matter. Without criminal activity and dead Americans, this entire event would have been long forgotten.
Columnist Eleanor Clift has made a arse of herself over Benghazi. I doubt she will be the last. Absent the rule of law, accountability appears nearly impossible. Truth can still be had however, if we are allowed to search for it. At this point, I will settle for truth.
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For yet another example of the disestablishment of inconvenient truth, see "a woman's right to choose." Homegrown Lebensborn, how far backward we have come.
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I was waiting for a claim of suicide... you know, like Vince Foster.
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Bizarre Statement...goes with the times of this administration.... just one more in a long line of memorable "one liners".
Depending upon the type of smoke inhalation, it kills at different rates of time, with a variety different organs involved in the process, heart, lung, brain, kidneys and liver. Major Catastrophic failure of at least two simultaneously from smoke inhalation = lights out = with additional trauma relatively quickly.
Ohhhh SNAP!
"I think it's, unfortunately, typical of much of the way the administration has conducted policy these last several years. It's all about politics and communication and spin and a lot less about performance, conducted by a lot of relatively young people who are not schooled in foreign policy. Don't get me wrong, I love children, I just don't think they should be in charge of our foreign policy."
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Youch.
Welll maybe Mr. Bolton will change his tune when he finds out about the full boycott going on in Sim City and the castle being built on Minecraft.
Is it a good way to get a word out, sure, but com-on, other than Michelle putting on her pouty face we look like a bunch of 13 year olds complaining that the starting QB won't take us on a date.
[Ynet] It's about time that Israel's political left woke up and started thinking seriously about other alternatives to 'two states for two people.'
Upon the failure of the Israeli-Paleostinian-American talks, US Secretary of State John F. I was in Vietnam, you know Kerry Former Senator-for-Life from Massachussetts, self-defined war hero, speaker of French, owner of a lucky hat, conqueror of Cambodia, and current Secretary of State... presented two terrifying alternatives for Israel's future without an agreement: There would either be one bi-national state between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, or Israel would become an apartheid state.
Both alternatives fail to reflect the wide range of possibilities. There is, for example, an option that a bi-national state will indeed be established with an apartheid regime, but that the Jews -- tired, shrinking and frustrated by the end of the Zionist dream -- will find themselves on the other side of the apartheid regime. They will be the victim rather than the master.
Another alternative is continuing the current situation: A Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, military rule in Gazoo; a Fatah autonomy without illusory sovereignty, based on international funding and aid, in part of the West Bank; the quick populatution of Judea and Samaria with settlers; a quiet emigration of Christian Paleostinians from the area; terror attacks of varying intensities; condemnation of the Israeli occupation; and attempts to reignite the fading fire of the negotiations.
There is also an alternative which one should not mention, despite its historic logic - Jordan's return to the West Bank territories and parts of East Jerusalem as the sovereign, and turning the Jordanian kingdom into a democratic Jordanian-Paleostinian state. Negotiating with this state on returning territories and land swaps and recognizing it as the Paleostinian country, their national home. After all, the Paleostinians are already the majority in Jordan.
There are also unilateral actions on the agenda, like a renewed Paleostinian appeal to be admitted into the UN or Israel's annexation of several territories and disengagement from others.
The alternative that the parties to the conflict find less palatable is the one that international diplomacy insists upon, known as "two states for two people" (or "two nation states," according to the Israeli interpretation). It is described in detail in the principles laid out by President Bill Clinton ...former Democratic president of the U.S. Bill was the second U.S. president to be impeached, the first to deny that oral sex was sex, the first to have difficulty with the definition of is... in the final month of his term. From a Paleostinian perspective, it means establishing a bisected and torn micro-state, with limited illusory sovereignty, surrounded by enemies and dependent on external economic aid for generations to come. Hardly a dream come true.
From an Israeli perspective, the "two-state" solution means forcibly evacuating some 80,000 to 100,000 settlers (creating a further hike in housing prices in Israel), a rift among the people of Israel, a repartition of Jerusalem, a winding border in the east and a national threat that will take shape when hundreds of thousands of refugees move from Arab states to the new, crowded and resourceless Paleostine. Hardly the fulfillment of peace.
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The existence of many different alternatives allows Israeli, Paleostinian and other politicians to avoid what is known euphemistically as "tough decisions." These decisions are usually made when all hope is lost, when all other options are gone and there is no way out. In 2014, there are still a lot of ways out. At least that's what everyone thinks. That's the real reason why the Israeli-Paleostinian talks on the permanent agreement reach a dead end again and again.
The majority of the Jewish public and the majority of the Paleostinian public are certain that they have enough time to select from the range of solutions something other than "two states for two people." Like in a restaurant - what kind of fool chooses a dish he doesn't like when there are other, tastier selections on the menu? Only when the menu is narrowed down to one indigestible option, and the choice is between that and hunger, is the dish likely to be selected. This situation, I believe, is still far away. Very far away.
Isn't it about time, therefore (and when will it be time?) for the Israeli political left to wake up from its slumber and shed its illusions, and start thinking seriously about the other alternatives instead of just blindly following "two states for two people"?
Because while we were sleeping (in other words, while we were busy dealing with the price of cottage cheese), the Jewish settlement movement became more radical and managed to populate tens of thousands of additional housing units in the territories.
The Paleostinian population has become more radical too, and has produced a new generation of young, educated and resolute people, who are strongly against the Clinton outline.
The theoretical option of "two states for two people" has moved further away from reality, in a critical manner. It is now of zero value: There is no demand for it, nor is there a forecast for its implementation.
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The Palestinians have never seen "Two State solution" as a reality. Without Palestinian or Arab acceptance, why should the Israelis have viewed it otherwise? Dancing alone at a party is generally seen as rather peculiar.
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The three-state solution is an alternative to the two state solution. In the three state solution Jordan absorbs the West Bank and Egypt absorbs Gazo.
[NYT] Anwar al-Awlaki was an American citizen who was subject to a kill order from Mr. Obama, and was killed in 2011 in Yemen by a missile fired from a drone. I don't doubt that Mr. Awlaki committed treason and deserved the most severe punishment. Under our Constitution, he should have been tried -- in absentia, if necessary -- and allowed a legal defense. If he had been convicted and sentenced to death, then the execution of that sentence, whether by drone or by injection, would not have been an issue.
Quite interesting Rand Paul would cite the al-Awlaki drone strike.
I disagree with the senator. Though legally an American citizen, Mr. al Awlaki was engaged in warring against the U.S., and deserved nothing more than to be shot as a spy. Which he was.
I think the Senator is right. Awlaki was indeed a traitor and I don't shed a tear at his demise: I recall being mighty pleased reading about his zappage. But there should have been a proceeding before-hand that declared him to be a traitor, to have forfeited his rights as an American citizen, and to be now an official enemy whom we could drone-zap without harming our collective conscience.
Presidents are not supposed to have the power to declare American citizens to be 'outlaws': that's there point of the Treason Clause in the Constitution, so that the executive could not do this the way an English King could.
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Taliban Johnny was discovered among wounded and dead Taliban on the battlefield by an SF medic who heard him crying for help in English. He was given medical treatment and transported back to the U.S., to face charges in a court of law. GITMO is full on non-USCITS awaiting legal procedures of some sort.
The intentional and specific targeting of US Citizens is a horse of a different colour. I too would like to see the memo or finding related to al-Awlaki.
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al-Awlaki got what he deserved but I agree that the constitutional due process should have been observed. al-Awlaki was born in the USA so his citizenship cannot be revoked against his will. How hard would it have been for the Obama DOJ to get a conviction on charges of treason?
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al-Awlaki got what he deserved but I agree that the constitutional due process should have been observed
agreed - and the Obama Regime and his sycophants need to have it permanently pinned to their chest that they were only too willing to perform the awful unconstitutional deeds they dreamed the Eeeeevil Boooosh and Darth Cheney were capable of
Posted by: Frank G ||
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I don't necessarily approve of the president's behavior, but I think there's something many of you are missing. Awlaki "took up arms" against the US, and sided with a foreign power -- al-Qaida. That in my book makes him an enemy combattant, and legal cannon fodder. That's how we judged a dozen or so US citizens that willingly fought with Germany in WWII, and a few Japanese. THAT should have been the judgment against him, rather than his US citizenship.
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al-Awlaki was reported to have been in contact with former MAJ Nidal Hasan in the internet. Hasan goes alakhbar and kills 13 soldiers at Fort Hood and next thing we know al-Awlaki is terminated.
I'd like to see the finding on al-Awlaki. Too many coincidence with this one.
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Yes, a man-hating, vindictive POTUS given to televised congressional outbursts, with a potential neurological impairment, depression or cognitive deficit. Just the person we need carrying the Football. What could possibly go wrong.
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"I'm sorry, I don't recall anything about that"
Posted by: Frank G ||
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Is something rather bigger going on?
People who shouldn't disappear "disappearing" for hours and days, lines of questioning about it fade out, both party establishments seems to not want to push it. At the moment I'm rather hoping it IS just another cover-up..
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So in the last 30-45 days, The One hires very high priced legal council who was defensive coordinator for Clinton during the blue dress tag days. And the Clinton cabal hiring a premier crisis management firm run by Lanny Davis, among whom recent clients include the Penn State Board of Trustees after the Sandusky scandal broke. Which "crisis" is motivating these baton down the hatches assembly of top tier talent?
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I am only on my IPad at the moment with only big thumbs, but if you google NYT- Obama Names White House Counsel it will pop up. Oh, from the April article, he is slated to start the second week of May... Let me look at my day timer when that might be:-)
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Sorry B the NYT article doesn't connect the dots I laid out, but I am pretty sure I read it here on Rantburg. Maybe add Wartime consigliere to the search.
#18
Gosh, we can't call her Bossy and now we can't call her Brain Damaged? Are we seriously not even through the Forbidden B words yet? I don't think I can make it through the letter Z...without Zantac.
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[Ynet] It's about time that Israel's political left woke up and started thinking seriously about other alternatives to 'two states for two people.'
