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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Suspected SoCal graffiti vandal picks wrong room
It was clearly the wrong room for a suspected graffiti vandal to target.

Sheriff's officials say 22-year-old Joshua Vasquez was arrested Friday after he allegedly tried to deface a glass door leading into a City of Commerce meeting room where over 100 Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies and police officers were attending a training class.

Sheriff's Captain Mike Parker says the officers could see the young man through the glass door, but he could not see them. Parker says Vasquez began to open the door to etch the inside when he suddenly saw dozens of officers running toward him.

Parker says Vasquez turned and fled with at least 40 officers in pursuit. He tripped and fell a short distance away and was quickly taken into custody.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did he trip over his pants on the ground?
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 02/14/2010 9:31 Comments || Top||

#2  tripped and fell 10 times
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2010 9:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Really we need to break some fingers on these vandals. They wont do any real time so we should make the next offense painful.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 02/14/2010 22:14 Comments || Top||


-Obits-
The Man Who Escaped From The Nazis 200 Times
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Article has a pic of the kid standing across from Himmler. Caption:

Greasley confronting Heinrich Himmler (wearing the spectacles) in the PoW camp

Wearing the spectacles indeed!
Posted by: gromky || 02/14/2010 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  There is some truly tragic romance in this story, worthy of Valentine's Day. The irony that, for both of them, after defying death so many times, to be denied a life together in freedom. A Romeo and Juliet story, except that Romeo lived to old age.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2010 8:47 Comments || Top||

#3  "Romeo and Juliet" > ENEMY BELOVED = AHHHH, he did it for LOVE + SEX???

SO WHATS THE PHILIPPINES = WARRING MINDANAO CLANS' EXCUSE [Ampatuan/Maguinadao Massacre]???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2010 22:52 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Egyptians on Trial in Copt Killings Plead Not Guilty
[Asharq al-Aswat] Three Egyptian Muslims accused of gunning down six Coptic Christians last month in southern Egypt pleaded not guilty on Saturday at the start of their trial amid heavy security.
Of course. There is no guilt in killing cattle. The job of unbelievers is to husband that which belongs to the Ummah until a Muslim comes along to harvest it.
A Muslim policeman was also killed when three gunmen raked worshippers emerging from services with bullets on the eve of the Coptic Orthodox Christmas on January 6 in the village of Nagaa Hammadi.
Now that is a murder, and should be punished.
It was the deadliest attack since 2000, when 20 Copts were killed in sectarian clashes.

Saturday's hearing in an emergency security court in the city of Qena, capital of the Qena governorate where Nagaa Hammadi is located, was packed with journalists, lawyers and police, an AFP correspondent said.

The defendants -- Mohammed al-Kammuni, Qorshi Abul Haggag and Hendawi Sayyed -- pleaded "not guilty" as the judge read out the charges against them.

The suspects were arrested after the attack and a Qena prosecutor charged them with "premeditated murder, putting the life of citizens in danger and damage to public and private property," a judicial source has said.

The killings sparked outrage among the country's Copts and led to clashes with police as Nagaa Hammadi residents accused the authorities of refusing to recognise the attack as sectarian.

International condemnation also poured in after the attack, with the United States saying the incident showed "an atmosphere of intolerance" in Egypt and Pope Benedict XVI saying it has "caused indignation among many people."

Egyptian officials have denied a sectarian element in the attack, insisting it is a purely criminal act and have linked it to the alleged rape of a Muslim girl by a Coptic man in November.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad


Economy
B.O. Signs Law Raising Public Debt Limit from $12.4 Trillion to $14.3 Trillion
Behind closed doors and with no cameras present, President Obama signed into law Friday afternoon the bill raising the public debt limit from $12.394 trillion to $14.294 trillion.

The current national debt is $12.3 trillion -- roughly $40,000 per citizen, $113,000 per taxpayer.

The bill also establishes a statutory Pay-As-You-Go procedure requiring that new non-emergency legislation affecting tax revenue or mandatory spending not increase the Federal deficit -- in other words, that any new spending or tax cuts be paid for with new taxes or spending cuts.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Question to 'Burgers. The Senate vote on this increase was 60-40 along party lines. Could this have been stopped with a 59-41 vote?? This vote occurred 9 days after Brown won in Mass, but was waiting to be seated.
Posted by: Tom-Pa || 02/14/2010 10:10 Comments || Top||

#2  They could only have caused the donks more embarassment. Shutting down the government has proven to be an ineffective tactic, and that's what Barry would do, furlough all Park Service interpretive personnel, halt all military contracts, etc.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/14/2010 10:16 Comments || Top||

#3  The real political issue was the jump in the debt to $14.3 trillion. The Dhimmis wanted it in one big jump so as not to have to vote on it again close to the election, the Pubs wanted a series of smaller increases, the better to remind voters.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2010 10:53 Comments || Top||

#4  If having that vote is what it takes to get voters to recognize we've got a problem, it's probably not solvable.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/14/2010 11:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Where am I gonna get $113,000?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 02/14/2010 13:45 Comments || Top||

#6  from Obama's stash.
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2010 13:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Where am I gonna get $113,000?

GMAC.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/14/2010 14:05 Comments || Top||

#8  > Where am I gonna get $113,000?

Don't worry your children will be poor, but you'll be able to blow the debt.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 02/14/2010 14:22 Comments || Top||

#9  What I don't understand is why they even bother to have a "debt limit". Every time they approach the "limit", they just raise the limit.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 02/14/2010 14:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Where am I gonna get $113,000?

You can use the change, after you have used a million dollar bill to buy a loaf of bread.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/14/2010 17:39 Comments || Top||

#11  Behind closed doors, show that even this narcissistic bast*rd has finally found something to feel ashamed about. Utterly disgusting display of theft of the public treasury by the power elites. Where are the arrests and prosecution for malfeasance in office for the President and the Congress? For gross negligence, incompetence and mismagement? The greatest theft in world history and NOBODY has gone to jail yet!
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 02/14/2010 18:49 Comments || Top||

#12  And it's about damn time people woke up and realized that THEFT is exactly what it is. These politicians are criminals. Their crime is against humanity. The only reason it's not against the law is that THEY are the ones who write the law. This is what happens when criminals write the law.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 02/14/2010 21:28 Comments || Top||

#13 
He did it on a Friday afternoon. Before a weekend dedicated to fighting in Marjah. Do you suppose he timed signing the bill to the offensive in Marjah, or did he time the Marjah offensive to signing the bill.

Sorta like a robber skulking around in the night, either way.
Posted by: gorb || 02/14/2010 22:55 Comments || Top||


Europe
Wall St. Helped Greece to Mask Debt Fueling Europe's Crisis
Posted by: tipper || 02/14/2010 10:42 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ION TOPIX/WAFF > COLLAPSE OF THE EURO IS INEVITABLE?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2010 23:08 Comments || Top||


Crowded Malta struggles to cope with illegal immigration
Posted by: Chusogum the Scantily Clad3590 || 02/14/2010 08:36 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Yulia: Fraud Tainted Ukraine Vote
But of course ...
MOSCOW — Prime Minister Yulia V. Tymoshenko, the apparent loser in Ukraine's presidential election, declared Saturday night that she would not concede, denouncing the results as having been tainted by widespread fraud.

Offering her first public comment on the election, on Feb. 7, Ms. Tymoshenko said she would go to court to overturn the victory of her opponent, Viktor F. Yanukovich, who was reported to have won by 3.5 percentage points.

“Yanukovich is not our president,' Ms. Tymoshenko said in a televised address to the nation. “He will never become the legitimate elected president of Ukraine under any circumstances.'

Ms. Tymoshenko acknowledged that Ukrainians were weary from years of political instability. She said she would not organize the kind of mass protests that shook the country during the 2004 Orange Revolution, which she helped lead. But she said she was confident that the election would be thrown out.

Still, she faces a significant challenge. European election monitors praised the balloting, saying that it was conducted freely and fairly, and President Obama and other world leaders have called Mr. Yanukovich in recent days to congratulate him.

Mr. Yanukovich, the opposition leader, mounted a comeback in this election after being the loser in the Orange Revolution. He has ties to the Kremlin, and has already indicated that he hopes to improve Ukraine's relations with Russia. He has said that Ms. Tymoshenko should concede and resign as prime minister for the good of the nation.

Ms. Tymoshenko had stirred speculation that she might do so by remaining largely out of the public eye in recent days. But she is known for her political intensity, and the tone of her remarks on Saturday night suggested that she would not immediately respond to domestic or international pressure to back down.

Preliminary results showed that Mr. Yanukovich won by roughly 900,000 votes. But Ms. Tymoshenko said that more than a million votes had been falsified in his favor. She said that on the Crimean Peninsula, a Yanukovich stronghold, 3 to 8 percent of the votes had been stolen for him.

She said some election monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe would support her in court, though she did not mention which ones. The organization approved of the election.

While not seeking demonstrations, Ms. Tymoshenko appeared to be trying to reignite the Orange movement, which arose after Mr. Yanukovich won the 2004 presidential election and his campaign was accused of fraud. Protests forced a new election, which Mr. Yanukovich lost to Viktor A. Yushchenko.

“Our opponents, as they did in 2004, demonstrated that they are not prepared to be elected by honest, democratic rules,' Ms. Tymoshenko said Saturday night. “They have perfectly well realized that they have no chance of earning the sympathy of the majority of people in a lawful way.'

There are major differences between the current situation and the earlier one. European election monitors assailed the 2004 election won by Mr. Yanukovich as deeply flawed, and many countries would not recognize it. What is more, Ukrainians were more enthusiastic about politics back then. Now, Ukraine's economy is hurting from the financial crisis, and the public is disillusioned with infighting in the government.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Putin is getting what he wants: a subservient Ukraine that will nto interfere with his plans, nor will it support Poland or Georgia, and will become increasingly hostile to NATO.

Thanks Obama, for stabbing Poland in the back. The Ukrainians saw that and learned form it.
Posted by: OldSpook || 02/14/2010 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Shocking no one, YANUKOVICH'S first act is to tell AFAHK the Russians their BLACK SEA FLEET CAN STAY AT SEVASTOPAL + CRIMEA AFTER YEAR 2017.

* ION RUSS WAFF > AZERBAIJAN MOVES TO DE-RUSSIFY FAMILY NAMES.

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > RUSSIA'S "ARMAGEDDON PLAN" IS REAL [Comet Apophis].

As said before, the future OWG-NWO = now RUSSIA has up thru 2029-2036 to PERFECT THEIR MATH, DETECTION-EXPLOR SYSTEMS, + ANTI-SPACE ROCK FIREPOWER, ETC TO PREVENT ANY MISCALCULATIONS + PREVENT TINY ROCK APOPHIS FROM SLAMMING INTO THE BIG ROCK MOON, CAUSING THE LATTER TO CHANGE ITS ORBIT.

MOST IMPORTANTLY > ABILITY OF THE DESIRED FUTURE OWG-NWO TO WORK COLLLECTIVELY IN THE "GLOBAL" INTEREST, BY AND FOR SAME + ALL HUMANITY!

AFter all, yer most powerful, high-techy anti-Space Rock Missles + Starships taint gonna work iff no one pushes "the Button", or wants to!

SEEMINGLY INVINCIBLE, ALL-POWERFUL MASSIVE JUGGERNAUTS are vulnerable in right conditions + right pressure points.

*STARSHIP TROOPERS" > D *** NG IT, RECRUIT, DON'T FORCE ME TO THROW A KNIFE AT YUR HAND!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2010 23:07 Comments || Top||

#3  TOPIX > GEORGIA: FAILED BUSH ASSASSIN CONVERTS TO ISLAM IN PRISON, after second try at conversion from Armenian Christanity.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2010 23:20 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Olympic protesters smash store windows
More than 200 masked Olympic protesters splattered red paint and smashed windows of a popular downtown department store Saturday on the first day of competition at the Vancouver Games.

Police say the group marched through the upscale shopping district, vandalizing cars and stores. Witnesses say protesters threw metal newspaper boxes into the display windows of Hudson's Bay Company, where Olympic souvenirs are sold.

Police in riot gear quickly moved in and quashed the protest. Police spokeswoman Jana McGuinness confirmed there were arrests, but she did not yet know how many. Authorities planned an afternoon news conference.

Witnesses say nobody appeared injured. Afterward, guards stood in front of the broken windows, which were cordoned off with yellow police tape while Olympic tourists snapped photos. Afterward, workers removed the newspaper boxes.

The protest was organized by the Olympic Resistance Network to "disturb business as usual" on the first day of the game. The network is an umbrella group for a dozens of causes surrounding the games, ranging from environmental concerns to economic issues.
Let the arrestees pay for the damage the vandals caused. They can share the costs with whomever else they can prove participated. Do that consistently and that kind of behaviour will become less appealing... or at least less costly to shops, car owners, and insurance companies.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In other news, there are people who protest anything the Olympics...
Posted by: Raj || 02/14/2010 8:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Forgive me for mistaking this noble and enlightened protest for a childish temper tantrum
Posted by: SteveS || 02/14/2010 9:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Spare the rod spoil the child. Don't spare the rod anymore.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 02/14/2010 10:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Spare the rod spoil the child. Don't spare the rod anymore. Posted by: Cyber Sarge|| 2010-02-14 10:43

Make sure the rod is 1" in diameter, made of solid white ash, and about 30" long. Slap 'em upside the head a few times with it, and they'll stop this foolishness. Also, once they're caught, make sure their sentence is to at least three years' hard labor, cleaning up Vancouver's harbor front.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/14/2010 16:04 Comments || Top||

#5  I sympathise with the protest (Olympics are always associated with State largesse for the "Important" people at the expense of the little people), but not the manner of the protest.

If it were me I'd hand out bills to everyone saying (Olympics, no right of admission).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 02/14/2010 17:06 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Judge Finds Grounds to Sanction Arizona Sheriff's Office
Some officials in the office of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio have acknowledged deleting their e-mails about the patrols and throwing away and shredding officers' records of traffic stops made during the sweeps that might be interpreted to suggest discrimination against illegal immigrants.
Posted by: Chusogum the Scantily Clad3590 || 02/14/2010 08:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It is a now well founded legal rule of thumb that any penalty for evidence destruction will be lower than the penalties associated with evidence preservation.

To start with, any penalty is based on intentions before the fact, so "ignorance of the law" actually *is* an excuse. Add to that no penalty for a supervisor who "forgot" to tell a subordinate *not* to destroy evidence, and evidence destruction is a joke.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2010 10:48 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Dallas Road Rage ends in Bomb Disposal
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/14/2010 10:40 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It has taken several hours and they still don't know if there is a device in the truck. They should just blow it in place.
Posted by: tipover || 02/14/2010 14:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Since a butane cigarette lighter can be referred to as an "incendiary device", this little POS may be having fun with the police. The police will have the last laugh, however.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/14/2010 16:12 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Akbar Zeb: not biggest dick
Does that mean he's just a dinky winky?
Posted by: tipper || 02/14/2010 11:19 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
"It's a practical joke someone played on the Internet," he says. "It's just a hoax story."

He says he's dismayed by the way this misinformation is spreading, saying the reports are misspelling and misinterpreting the meaning of his name and fabricating news about diplomatic movements. Other reports, which he stresses are false, say he'd even tried to secure ambassadorships in Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates but was turned down for the same reason.

Mr. Zeb was sworn in as high commissioner in June, 2009, and is only nine months into his three-year term in Ottawa. There have been no discussions with Saudi Arabia to take up an ambassadorship, he says, and Pakistan's ambassador to Saudi Arabia has only served four months in his post.

"I don't know what to think of it," he says. "All I can say is they've distorted my name."


I can't believe how many people fell for that one.
Posted by: Parabellum || 02/14/2010 11:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Any publicity is good publicity

Rhonda Farr said: 'Publicity, darling. Just publicity. Any kind is better than none at all.

Posted by: Kofi Thaiger6334 || 02/14/2010 13:11 Comments || Top||

#3  I understand "Chuck Schumer" is yiddish for "biggest putz". I read it somewhere
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2010 13:46 Comments || Top||

#4  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8_jgiNqUc
Posted by: twobyfour || 02/14/2010 18:19 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Climatology expert threatened for climate change views
Recently I interviewed professor Tim Ball on my TV show. Ball is a highly qualified and experienced academic with an expertise in historical climatology who rejects most of the current hysteria around climate change and global warming.

He is a modest, gentle man who, in spite of his enormous work in the field and the chairing of inquiries and commissions into environmental causes, is now libelled, slandered, abused and threatened for his opinions.

"If people knew just how deep and dark this conspiracy is -- yes, conspiracy -- they'd be amazed," he explains. "More and more academics are standing up to refute climate-change theories, but it's still dangerous to do so. It can mean the end of a career, the targeting of someone by well-organized fanatics."

I rather doubted this man who is arguably Canada's leading scientific opponent of climate-change fundamentalism until the e-mails poured in after his television appearance. People wrote that he was in the pay of big oil, was a simple high-school geography teacher, was insane and worse. In fact, he is a university academic with impressive graduate degrees and doctorates and, unlike so many global warming advocates, is not in the pay of anybody.

Because he took some of his degrees under a university department of geography, an Internet mythology has developed around him and people who cannot spell let alone define scientific concepts try to silence him whenever he speaks.

"I've rather got used to it by now," he says. "At first it was shocking that a climatologist with different ideas was treated like a Holocaust denier. Now I just move on and speak the truth."

Such aggression has become typical of climate-change fanatics. When they lose arguments or are exposed as frauds, they attack their critics' reputations or, in the case of the UN climate chief last week, shout that opponents should have their faces rubbed in carcinogenic material. It's a grander, better financed version of pushing someone off a stage and is as crass and nasty as any anti-Communist witch-hunt.

Usually I wouldn't reveal this sort of information, but in this case it's necessary. We flew professor Ball to Toronto from Victoria for our interview because he could not afford the flight. The money for the economy fare was donated by two friends of our program with no connections to the climate-change debate and there was no fee for professor Ball. In other words, this man alleged to be in the pay of millionaires could not find anyone to subsidize even an entirely legitimate domestic flight for a major interview seen by 300,000 people!

"The believers are on increasingly thin ice -- which is ironic because 400 years ago, the ice on London's River Thames was three-feet thick!" he explains. "There has always been and always will be climate change, but it has very little to do with human activity and has nothing at all to do with pollution of course. We're being lied to and the lies started 40 years ago."

And professor Ball continues to speak out, no matter what the cost. More e-mails condemning him? Yes indeed. They're being written right now.
Posted by: Fred || 02/14/2010 10:55 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Sri Lanka
Oppo leader will be released 'if innocent'
And what are the odds of that?
Between naught and nil, I think.
Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa has conveyed to leader of the opposition Ranil Wickremesinghe that the former Army Chief and defeated opposition presidential candidate, General (retired) Sarath Fonseka, will be released if he is proven innocent of the charges levelled against him.

On Friday, Mr. Wickremesinghe had called on Mr. Rajapaksa seeking the General's immediate release, even as the Supreme Court admitted a petition challenging his detention and posted it for further hearing on February 23.

A report posted on the Department of Information website on Saturday said: "President Mahinda Rajapaksa informed the Opposition Leader that all facilities will be given to General Sarath Fonseka without causing him any inconvenience. [The] President had added that investigations into these allegations will be carried out immediately. General Fonseka will be released if he is proven not guilty of the charges, the President had assured."

It quoted Mr. Rajapaksa as saying General Fonseka's detention was an act of maintaining military law and discipline. It was not an act of revenge.

"The opposition requested the President to let someone else other than Mrs. Anoma Fonseka to take meals to Mr. Fonseka. The President said that the Army Commander will take a decision on this matter. He pointed out that Mrs. Fonseka is the most suitable person to take meals to the General. He recalled that Madam Shiranthi Rajapaksa had come to visit him similarly, when he had been serving prison terms in the past."
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Science
Phil Jones: No Global Warming since 1995, Data disorganized, lost
The academic at the centre of the 'Climategate' affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble 'keeping track' of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.
Lost accidently on purpose, one suspects. A highly useful claim now that he's facing legal and university inquiries re: his attempts to obstruct freedom of information requests.
If he can't manage his lab properly, he should step down from the position and go back to teaching. This may keep him out of jail, but he is a disgrace to his profession.
Dog ate his homework, eh. Does the man understand just how lame that sounds?
Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is 'not as good as it should be'.
Demote him to his level of competence, and put someone in charge who can do the science properly. Then in a decade or two we can readdress which direction the climate is headed.
The data is crucial to the famous 'hockey stick graph' used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now -- suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.
He has to concede that, the records there, both historical and scientific, are irrefutable.
And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no 'statistically significant' warming.
How would he know? He has no data, only the faint memory of having had data, once upon a time.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/14/2010 06:03 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow! Double wow!
Posted by: phil_b || 02/14/2010 7:40 Comments || Top||

#2  this was from a British paper

The WaPost today was filled with half a dozen warmist columns and apologia while the Climategate and IPCC stories have been buried or only partly reported.
Posted by: lord garth || 02/14/2010 8:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Just denying these scoundrels what they want won't work, because, like career criminals, they will just keep trying. If one door is locked, they will try the windows. They want money and power.

Therefore, they must be removed from their positions of power, and prosecuted for fraudulently obtaining the monies they use to promulgate their schemes. Since they won't stop any other way, they have to be put in prison, just like other criminals.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2010 8:41 Comments || Top||

#4  How would he know?

By looking at the actual data sets before he and his pseudo-scientific fellow travelers tampered with them. These guys would have failed high school science lab for not showing their work.
Posted by: SteveS || 02/14/2010 9:38 Comments || Top||

#5  And the BBC is starting to hammer these guys. Watch to the very end to see the host virtually tell the expert Ph.D. that he doesn't believe him. The US media is really trailing the Brits.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/14/2010 9:44 Comments || Top||

#6  Let me try again with that BBC link
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/14/2010 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  he may have actually lost the relevant papers

No problemo. The Goracle has it all in his head.
Posted by: Matt || 02/14/2010 10:25 Comments || Top||

#8  The WaPost today was filled with half a dozen warmist columns and apologia ...

Ditto the Chicago Tribune this morning. The US papers are still running interference for global warming.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2010 10:48 Comments || Top||

#9  ...he should step down from the position and go back to teaching.

And teaching what?
Posted by: Willy || 02/14/2010 10:48 Comments || Top||

#10  The US papers are still running interference for global warming

Probably because they're too 'understaffed' (or too lazy, stupid, etc.) to produce their own columns. Most of the AGW articles are coming from Rooters, APEE, and McClutchy
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 02/14/2010 11:18 Comments || Top||

#11  Another little tidbit here.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 02/14/2010 11:20 Comments || Top||

#12  Okay - why is the top climate guy a world bank "scientist".
Somehow "World Bank" and "scientist" seem to be mutually exclusive concepts...
Posted by: 3dc || 02/14/2010 12:27 Comments || Top||

#13  "If he can't manage his lab properly, he should step down from the position and go back to teaching."

And allow him to devote himself to indoctrinating future generations of true believers in his global warming religion? Not a good idea.

Posted by: Dave D. || 02/14/2010 13:21 Comments || Top||

#14  I was thinking along the lines of Physics 101-102 for Fine Arts majors, guys, not Climatology 753: long-term prediction from imaginary data sets.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/14/2010 14:13 Comments || Top||

#15  Good one, TW
Posted by: badanov || 02/14/2010 14:14 Comments || Top||

#16  I hope you read and understand this time.

Long Term prediction based on recursive models is impossible.

This is due to Exponential Error
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 02/14/2010 16:11 Comments || Top||

#17  Perhaps the least well understood aspect to this whole thing is that people have an irrational faith in what computers tell them.

This was first brought home to me about 15 years ago, when after many weeks of work, I finally proved the output from a large computer system was seriously wrong. When I finally unveiled my findings I expected congratulations for an impressive piece of work. What I got was emotional reactions.

I have never seen this phenomena documented anywhere, but I'm sure it was a major factor in the acceptance of the climate model's predictions, despite their increasing divergence from reality.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/14/2010 16:42 Comments || Top||

#18  Maybe we should insist it's called the more accurate term "Programmer Modelling".

In the UEA's case it's extremely bad programmer modelling.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 02/14/2010 17:02 Comments || Top||

#19  AGW left the scientific realm a long time ago. It is more of a theology now. The true believers are never, ever going to say they were wrong no matter who says they basically pulled it all out of their @ss and, BTW, the dog ate their data, too.

I mean, c'mon. "Settled science" is their dogma, "peer review" is their priesthood, and the graphs made from data that can't be verified but must be taken on faith are all their holy scripture. Throw in mankind's original sin ~ the minute Urk the Caveman chopped down a tree and released that eeeeeevvvill carbon dioxide into the pristine atmosphere by burning it for heat ~ and you're set. Any deniers from the true faith (aka heretics) must be shouted down or ignored (excommunicated).

Just like the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages, they got a good, long run on dictating behavior (and a sizable take from the ruling classes) and they will not give it up without a fight.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 02/14/2010 17:23 Comments || Top||

#20  Do you mind if I burst out laughing.

Even a half witted architect could tell they were cooking the books. When you consider how everyone talked about how much warmer it was during the dinosaurs and how there was an ice age that melted as the earth warmed.

If the earth warmed and cooled millions/billions of years before Urk the caveman invented fire..how they heck could it have been a man made phenomenon?

Environazis are just communists with a different jersey color.
Posted by: Karl Rove || 02/14/2010 21:19 Comments || Top||



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