Pakistani and Afghan officials and tribal leaders met for talks in Islamabad on Monday to find ways to end mounting Taliban and Al-Qaeda violence along their troubled border.
The two-day meeting has been dubbed a "mini-jirga" as it is a smaller follow-up to a traditional "jirga" or tribal meeting held between the two feuding neighbours in August 2007.
"Both Afghanistan and Pakistan are faced with terrorism and together they need to face the challenge," Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told the start of the session.
The meeting features 50 members -- 25 from each side -- including government officials, representatives of political parties and members of the ethnic Pashtun tribes that straddle the Afghan-Pakistan border. ...
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Al Qaeda propagandist Ali Hamza Ahmad al-Bahlul will go on trial in front of a US military tribunal at the Guantanamo prison on Monday, with the Pentagon saying it expects he will appear despite his vows earlier this year to boycott the proceedings.
Only the second person to face trial in Guantanamo since the facility opened in 2002 for hundreds of war-on-terror detainees, Bahlul, 39, will face terrorism and murder charges under the special military tribunal system set up for Guantanamo detainees. In the first test of the "war crimes" tribunals -- the first time they have been used since World War II -- military jurors in August found Osama bin Laden's former driver Salim Hamdan guilty of providing material support to terrorism but rejected stronger terrorist conspiracy charges the government lodged.
The US is charging Bahlul, one of the first US war-on-terror detainees to be sent to Guantanamo in early 2002, with multiple counts of conspiracy to commit terrorism, murder, terrorism, providing material support for terrorism. He faces a possible sentence of life in prison. Bahlul is also accused of preparing the video of the last "martyr wills" of Mohammed Atta, the leader of the 19-man team which hijacked four passenger jets to crash them into US buildings on September 11, 2001.
The US says he answered directly to al-Qaeda's leadership and maintained for them important equipment; it also says he carried a suicide belt and grenades with him to be used to protect the leaders. Currently about 20 of the 255 detainees now in Guantanamo are facing trial by military commission.
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Not bringing him to VA? The land lines between dick turban's office and the un are smokin'!
NOWSHERA (Rajouri): As salam aleikum, an elderly Qasi Afzal Masood greets this correspondent and leads him into his hut in Nowshera village close to the Line of Control (LoC).
A small-time farmer, Qasi has no means of entertainment in his dingy hut except a radio which he says has been his prized possession for years now.
So what does he listen to on the radio? Sometimes news and otherwise Hindustani songs, he says with a smile.
But what he says next, rather casually, comes as a surprise: One can also tune in to Pakistani radio programmes as their signals reach our village. Many other villages also listen in.
While the Army and police machinery are already worried about signals of Pakistani mobile service providers reaching the Indian side, Pakistani radio programmes have become yet another cause of concern. Had these only to do with songs and other entertainment it would have been a different matter. But some programmes talk of Kashmirs aazadi and how blood should be spilt in all cities in India.
Qazi, 55, who has seen militancy grow all these years in Nowshera, considered to be a stronghold of Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and Hizbul Mujahideen (HM), tunes in his radio to the frequency 102 MHz. After a few minutes of static, on comes Voice of Kashmir, a programme on Pakistani radio. A few advertisements follow (about soaps and washing powder) and then begins a 30-minute programme aimed at the Kashmiris in India.
Hamare Kashmiri bhaiyon ko Allah-tallah ka hukum hae ki Hindustaniyon ka qatal karo, sare aam unki gardane kato. Hindustani hukumat ko bata do ki unki koshishen humko juda karne ki kabhi kamayab nahi hogi. Kashmir hamara hai or rahega.... (Our Kashmiri brothers, the Almighty desires the public beheading of Indians. Show the Indian Government that its efforts to keep us separate will never succeed.)
After 30 minutes of such incendiary exhortation, the speaker winds up with: Kashmir zindabad, Allah hafiz.
These people provoke us to pick up arms but I can tell you that most of us want to remain with India. We too are keeping track of what is going on in Pakistan, says Qazi, who has witnessed fierce gun battles in his village, the most recent being the killing of two top HM members who were trying to infiltrate into India. But it is not only 102 MHz that is spreading the anti-India propaganda, another such frequency 106 MHz too has the same agenda. Star Radio has also taken up a Hate India campaign.
Asked how the radio signals are being picked up in India and what they plan to do about it, police officials say they are helpless. Earlier, the Pakistani mobile phone towers and radio towers used to be far from the LoC. Of late, they have brought them much closer to the LoC and now all signals reach Indian villages, a police official said, adding that most of the content on the 15-hour radio broadcasts was anti-India.
According to him, 60 per cent of the residents of Rajouri, Poonch, Nowshera, Deragali listen to the highly provocative speeches. This issue has to be addressed by the higher-ups in New Delhi. We cannot do much except for monitoring the programmes, he remarked.
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you should hear the bits on the 104 Morning Zoo Drive-by Show
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A high-altitude nuke explosion will shut 'em down real fast.
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Given my respect for RB'ers in general I would like to pose the following question for debate. This seems like an appropriate thread though not the best possible.
Given Biden's rant about "the world is going to test Obama (aka the One)", I'd like to get a reading on A) what are the likely tests he will face, and B) what will he do about them?
This is based on my assumption that the Dems will force us into unilateral retreat from Iraq & Afghanistan and probably South Korea and Europe. All in the name of cost cutting.
My top ten choices in no particular order are:
1) Indo - Pak war
2) Afghan - Taliban (Pak) war
3) Iran - Iraq war
4) Paleo - Israel war (possibly Hez and Hamas together)
5) China makes a move on Taiwan of a strong economic / diplomatic take with a military backing.
6) Venezuela / Bolivia attack Columbia.
7)Iran goes nuclear
8) Arab on Black or Black on White genocide in Africa.
9) Russia makes a grab for something in Eastern Europe.
10)EUization of European Financial Industry.
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Iran claims to have nukes, US does nothing, Israel removes Iran and parts of Iraq from the map (casualty of war). A 2nd Cold War starts between Russia, China, and US. The illuminati media claim that we are at fault.
Majority of those operating as Taliban in Lower Mohmand Agency, Darra Adam Khel and some parts of Khyber Agency are gangsters and criminals, say tribesmen, maliks and officials.
Lower Mohmand consists of 45 villages 25 of which border the capital city of Peshawar. These villages are part of Yaka Ghund Tehsil of Mohmand, which borders Shabqadar area of Charsadda and Mathra locality of Peshawar.
"We've three types of Taliban here," said a retired professor from Mohmand Agency. The first category consists of those studying in seminaries. The second is fighting alongside al-Qaeda and Afghan Taliban in the Tribal Areas and Afghanistan, while the third category is known as "Charsi" Taliban.
"Majority of those operating in our part of the agency belong to the third category and they are involved in kidnappings, robberies and car-lifting," he said.
A tribal Malik from Mohmand, who is presently living in Peshawar, said that Taliban in Lower Mohmand were the same people who're involved in incidents of murder and kidnapping for ransom about two years ago.
Before the emergence of Taliban in Bajaur and their gaining strength in Swat, these people worked for "Khans" and influential Maliks in Mohmand.
As their paymasters migrated to settled areas after the increasing influence of militants in Mohmand, they disguised themselves as Taliban by sporting beards and long hair.
Secondly, he said, mostly those becoming the workforce of the Taliban were illiterate and jobless. Some people joined the Taliban to settle old scores with their enemies or with those Khans and Maliks who had forcefully occupied their lands or did them harm in the past, he added.
Another elder, who refused to be identified, said that some well-to-do people, who were still living in the Tribal Areas, were regularly feeding the so-called Taliban with big chunks of money to save their own skin. They are giving money to "Amir Sahiban" in their respective areas as "donations to be spent in the way of God," said the elder. "The intention is just to keep them [Taliban] on their side," he added.
Mohammad Kamal, administrator of Jamalabad religious seminary in Mechani area of Mohmand, said that half of those operating in Mohmand in the name of Taliban were gangsters, kidnappers and car-lifters.
Kamal said his 50-year-old seminary was also occupied by the so-called Taliban, however, it was vacated after intervention of a jirga and political officials. He said the so-called Taliban were making oodles of money by kidnapping people from settled areas and bullying locals to pay them.
Barely two weeks ago, Taliban in Ghalanai area of Mohmand Agency started arresting women for not wearing veil and taxi drivers for carrying such women in their cars. The armed men would fine a taxi driver Rs 1,500-2,000 if they found a woman sitting in his car without wearing burqa.
They would phone the relatives of the woman and charge them Rs 5,000 fine for allowing her to come out of the house without wearing burqa. A senior official agreed that 90 per cent of those operating in Mohmand Agency, Bara, Darra Adam Khel and Khyber Agency were professional criminals.
The official, who refused to be named, said some of the gangs were receiving huge amounts from foreign agencies.
He said reports suggested that a foot soldier operating with those people was fetching Rs 10,000 a month, while the monthly income of an ordinary commander ranged between Rs 20,000 and Rs 25,000.
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Majority of...Taliban...are gangsters and criminals
how would they know the difference?
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Islamabad - Army chief Gen. Ashfaq Pervez Kayani has welcomed the unanimous resolution adopted by joint session of Parliament calling for a review of Pakistans involvement in the war on terror and said the army would abide by it. It is pleasing to note there is an emerging consensus in Pakistan that terrorism has to be addressed with the help of the people of Pakistan, as suggested in a recent parliament resolution, said the General while speaking at the passing out parade for cadets at the Pakistan Military Academy in Kakul.
He said the army was bound to follow decisions made by parliament, and troops were committed to protecting the territorial integrity of Pakistan and establishing the writ of the government.
As long as the government does what it's told ...
He called the Pakistan Army a guarantor of peace and stability that was equipped with sophisticated modern weapons and capable of meeting the expectations of the nation. We stand committed to global and regional peace. We will not enter an arms race, but will maintain balance through a strategy of minimum credible deterrence, he said, adding that Pakistan faced more internal challenges than external ones.
The Hindoooz do seem to be on the quiet side right now. Perhaps a little less shooting at the glacier and a little more shooting around Swat?
He said the resolution passed by parliament would lead to positive results.
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ISLAMABAD - Virtually slamming the doors on further restoration of the few remaining deposed judges including chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, President Asif Ali has invited Justice Iftikhar and his handful of colleagues to join politics and prosmised to exercise his authority to lift two-year mandatory ban.
He claimed the judicial crisis is over and accused the deposed CJ and his colleagues of issuing political statements as if posing a threat to the government. The way these former judges are delivering speeches similar to that of politicians, I would advise the prime minister to give them a party ticket for the Senate elections to be held next year, he said with a wry smile in a panel interview with The News. He said 42 out of 60 judges have taken a fresh path, many have retired and only four to five are left including the big gun, a taunting reference to Justice Iftikhar.
I do not see even a semblance of judicial crisis, he said adding that if Iftikhar thinks he is very popular and can pose threat to the government, he is free to contest Senate election next march and enter active politics.
Asked to count major accomplishment of his presidency since election on September 6, Zardari mentioned efforts to re-unite the federation, working for national consensus, bringing on board all major political parties on the war on terror and undertaking a landmark trip to China to beg for money.
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Pakistan has some really interesting media barons. Mr. Nizami advocates nuclear war with India to solve Pakistan's problems. Apart from his control over newspapers and other media, his foundation operates a network of schools throughout Pakistan
LAHORE - Editor-in-Chief The Nation and Chairman Nazaria-i-Pakistan Trust, Majid Nizami has said that integrity and solidarity of the country and its progress is linked with the Two-Nation Theory and if there would have been no ideology Pakistan would not have come into being.
We should not hesitate to go to nuclear war with India for the solution of our problems... I wanted to remind you that our fight is against India, America and Israel. These three evil forces are united against us because we are the sole Islamic nuclear power."
He was addressing the concluding session of two-day Nazaria-i-Pakistan Conference here on Sunday at Aiwan-e-Karkunan Tehrik-e-Pakistan held in collaboration with Nazaria-i-Pakistan Trust. The conference was attended by eminent personalities and delegates from within and outside the country.
Majid Nizami paid rich tributes to Shaheed Ghulam Haider Wyne saying that we are sitting here in this hall because of Shaheed Wyne. He said Wyne did not left any property even for his widow and constructed this building for Pakistan Movement workers and such services could be seen nowhere in the country.
October 26, 2008: In attempt to get Iraqi politicians to get their act together, the commander of U.S. forces sent a three page letter to the Iraqi government pointing out that if the Iraqis did not approve an extension of agreements authorizing U.S. forces in Iraq, by the time the current ones expire at the end of the year, the U.S. would suspend, on January 1st, all services America provides for Iraq. That took up most of the three pages, and Iraqi officials were surprised at the extent of economic and administrative services that the U.S. delivers, day in and day out. There has been a tendency by Iraqis to take for granted what the Americans do for them. The letter sought to do a little attitude adjustment. Some Iraqi politicians called this blackmail, but it's just the downside of living under the rule of law. No contract, no work.
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What you see is not necessarily what you get. The hidden agenda on the letter is a warning to the Iraqis that when the US elections take place, there are two very different outcomes that they had better be aware of.
The should absolutely not sign the SOFA until the day after the elections. If Obama wins, they do not sign at all, and they have until Inauguration Day to start doing everything on the list for themselves.
Since they don't sign with Obama, the Americans will have to leave by Jan 1, and there is no way he can screw them over after that.
Iraq's biggest Sunni Arab political party suspended all dealings with U.S. civilian and military personnel on Saturday after U.S. and Iraqi forces carried out a raid in which a man was killed. The incident could increase tension in a part of Iraq that was once the heartland of the insurgency against U.S. forces but has become among the quietest parts of the country over the past two years.
The Iraqi Islamic Party, headed by Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi, said the targets of the raid were senior party officials. Five people had been detained and one killed "in his bed", it said in a statement.
U.S. forces said one man had been arrested and one had been killed in a joint U.S.-Iraqi raid against a suspected militant on Friday in the town of Falluja.
The Iraqi Islamic Party, headed by Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi, said the targets of the raid were senior party officials. Five people had been detained and one killed "in his bed", it said in a statement.
The statement said the raid had "hidden political goals" after the party forged tribal alliances with other political blocs.
On Saturday, the supporters of the party protested in Fallujah and demanded the release of the five arrested members, an AFP correspondent reported.
Falluja, in Anbar province west of the capital, was the scene of the war's two heaviest battles between U.S. forces and Sunni insurgents in 2004, but has become quiet after tribes began cooperating with American troops in late 2006.
The Islamic Party said it would suspend all communication with U.S. personnel until it got "a convincing explanation of what happened, accompanied by an official apology stressing that those who committed these attacks are turned over to justice".
The move is an indication of rising political tensions in Anbar province ahead of provincial elections, due to be held by the end of January.
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Don't think these folks will be the largest Sunni party after the elections.
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I wonder if this is related to "The Letter" posted above?
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Dozens of mental health specialists on Sunday protested Israel's closure of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip after they were prevented from entering to attend a conference there.
The Israeli military said it would allow medics to enter Gaza to provide care but not to attend a conference in a "territory controlled by terrorists."
Around 70 demonstrators waved signs denouncing the Israeli closure of the Palestinian territory, with slogans such as "Let Gaza live" and "Israel: a medical conference is a security threat?"
Let them in but don't let them out: after all, there's plenty to do in Gaza to keep them busy ...
Doctors from several countries had hoped to attend a conference on mental health in the impoverished coastal territory hosted by the World Health Organization (WHO), but Israeli authorities did not allow them to enter.
The conference, which will be held on Monday with doctors in the West Bank town of Ramallah participating via video conferencing, will focus on the impact of the Israeli blockade on the mental health of Gaza residents.
The Israeli military rejected the doctors' accusations in a statement, saying it would allow medics to enter Gaza to provide care but not to attend a conference in a "territory controlled by terrorists."
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"Israel: a medical conference is a security threat?"
No more than ambulances, for sure.
Haven't these bozos ever heard of teleconferencing? Or is it only jihadis who know how to use computers?
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I don't believe they would go and look after the REAL Root Causes of the mental health quagmire in gaza anyway, most probably genetic (too much interbreeding, heck, even the UK health guys acknowledged this was a real problem for "british" paks) & cultural (lemme see : rampant sex abuse of kiddies, rampant mysoginy that degrades mothers, public education a death cult, private education with the boys as "little kings" churning out sociopaths with zero tolerance for frustration and no self-responsability,...oh, and islam), not environmental (blame the jooos).
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It should have allowed them to enter, but only on the condition that their vehicles be clearly marked with the Star of David, so that Palestinians would know that they are under the protection of Israel and to not attack them.
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Heck if you dose them up with a bunch of Rx drugs then we won't have to worry about them anymore. They'll end up being crack addicts and will be to unmotivated to do anything or listen to anyone.
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Iran's Parliament will move in November to impeach Interior Minister Ali Kordan for "dishonesty" after he confessed to holding a fake Oxford University degree, the ISNA news agency said on Sunday. "Kordan will face an impeachment vote on November 4," a member of Parliament's board, Hamid Reza Hajibabai, was quoted as saying.
Pressure has been mounting on Kordan to quit the cabinet post he took up in August after the prestigious British university denied awarding him any qualification through a representative, as he had claimed.
"The minister has claimed to have been deceived by the Oxford University's representative ... Whether he has been deceived or dishonest, such a person does not deserve to be interior minister," read the motion signed by 28 MPs. An impeachment motion needs a minimum of 10 signatures to be put on Parliament's agenda.
Kordan had asserted the degree was issued for his "managerial and executive experience and for submitting a thesis to Oxford University via a person who had opened an affiliate office in Tehran in English-language affairs." He later said he had approached Oxford University after MPs cast doubt on his degree, but "to my utter disbelief, the university did not confirm [the degree] when my representative went there."
He had shown the purported degree to MPs in a controversial vote of confidence session on August 5, during which he was confirmed in office by 169 votes to 100.
The minister replaced Mustafa Pour Mohammadi, who fell out with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The president has been supporting Kordan throughout the controversy, once saying that he should not be judged by "a torn piece of paper."
The country's presidential election slated for June 2009, in which Ahmadinejad is expected to run, is overseen by the Interior Ministry.
Kordan has said he pressed charges against the person who claimed to represent Oxford in Tehran as soon as he realized his degree was fake.
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That's funny. Even though he was a dried camel dung salesman before he was Interior Minister, he seemed to fight right in with the rest before they figured it out. I guess they figure he wasn't properly qualified somehow.
Iran is arming 'freedom armies' in the Middle East, a military website quoted a top commander of the country's elite Revolutionary Guards as saying on Sunday. "Today, not only our armed forces are self-sufficient but the freedom armies of the region also get part of their weaponary from us," said Hossein Hamedani, the deputy commander of Iran's volunteer Basij militia.
His comments appeared on the public relations website of the Revolutionary Guards. Like those of the Revolutionary Guards, commanders of the militia are appointed by Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Hamedani, whose military rank was not provided, did not elaborate what he meant by 'freedom armies'. But Iran has dubbed Palestinian groups such as Hamas and the hardline Islamic Jihad as well as the Lebanese Shia movement Hezbollah as 'freedom armies' since all have vowed to fight Tehran's regional arch-foe, Israel. Tehran has always maintained that its support to these groups is merely 'moral' and that it does not provide them with any military means, despite claims to the contrary by Washington.
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Who exactly are they giving these weapons to? Give them to the wrong folks and heads of state will roll. Must be "freedom armies" outside Iran's border?
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Arabian Nightmare
U.S. and Iraqi forces regularly capture Iraqis smuggling weapons in from Iran. Over the Summer, nearly 10,000 Iranian weapons were seized from smugglers, usually by American troops. Iran denies any involvement, as there is a lot of smuggling from Iran to Iraq. But many of the captured smugglers admit that they received military training in Iran, as part of a plan to build a pro-Iranian terrorist organization inside Iraq, to be used whenever Iran believes it needs a little more chaos inside its Shia neighbor. ...
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Iran is running out of cash.
Unfortunatly their wheat crop was average this year, but the Egyptian blight/mold has made an appearance. This stuff kills wheat and wheat is very important to the Iranians.
A senior Israeli military official on Sunday accused Syria of arming Hezbollah in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution which ended the 2006 war between Israel and the Lebanese militia.
"Syria has become Hezbollah's arms warehouse," military intelligence chief Amos Yadlin told minister during the Israeli cabinet's weekly meeting, according to another senior official. "Hezbollah activists are doing whatever they want in Syria. Syria has removed all restrictions and through its irresponsible behavior it allows Hezbollah access to nearly all of its strategic capabilities."
Israel has repeatedly accused Syria of arming Hezbollah and allowing Iranian weapons into Lebanon in violation of Security Council Resolution 1701, which ended a 34-day war between Israel and the Lebanese militia two years ago.
Israeli officials have refrained from openly accusing Syria of supporting Hezbollah since the two states announced in May they were holding Turkish-mediated peace talks after an eight-year hiatus.
Meanwhile, dozens of Jewish settlers rampaged through the West Bank town of Hebron after Israeli troops removed an illegal settlement outpost, Palestinian residents said. "A settlement outpost was evacuated and several settlers were arrested," an Israeli army spokesman said. Military radio said five settlers had been arrested and charged with assaulting soldiers.
Witnesses said the settlers hurled rocks at houses, vandalized several Muslim graves in a local cemetery and slashed the tires of cars belonging to Palestinian residents near the Kiryat Arba settlement.
The violence broke out after Israeli security forces removed several settlers from a building outside an existing settlement.
Defense Minister Ehud Barak slammed the settlers' actions, but also accused the legal system of leniency towards the Jewish population in the occupied West Bank. "I would like to underline the severity of the actions and statements made by the extreme-right in the territories," Barak's office quoted him as saying during a weekly cabinet meeting. "I believe that the punishment is too soft and that the legal and justice system must pay attention to that," the former army chief said.
The incident came a day after more than 500 Palestinian police reinforcements fanned out across the town as part of a widening security crackdown to bolster stalled U.S.-backed peace talks.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
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Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
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A senior Israeli military official on Sunday accused Syria of arming Hezbollah in violation of a U.N. Security Council resolution which ended the 2006 war between Israel and the Lebanese militia.
