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Islamists set up central Islamic court in Mogadishu
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Afghanistan
Afghan Reconciliation Commission Presses for Release of Captives
From Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty
The estimated 500 detainees still held by U.S. forces at Bagram are thought to include Arabs, Pakistanis, and some Central Asians. But most are Afghans.

The head of the Afghan Reconciliation Commission, Sebghatullah Mujadidi, says the fate of all Afghans in U.S. custody will be discussed with U.S. officials when a delegation from Kabul visits Bagram on October 7. Mujadidi says his commission has mediated in the release of 462 innocent Afghan detainees from Bagram during the past 18 months -- including Amanullah -- and 17 from Guantanamo Bay. "We are sending our delegates to Bagram again," Mujadidi says. "It has been agreed that this delegation will be allowed to look at the case files of all of the Afghan detainees. Those who are innocent will be released."

Mujadidi says most Afghans still in detention at Bagram are expected to be transferred to Afghan custody by the summer of 2007. By then, a new high-security wing and staff training should be completed at Kabul's Pul-e Charki prison.

Lieutenant Colonel Paul Fitzpatrick, a spokesman for the U.S. military in Afghanistan, says some Afghans being held for "acts of terrorism against the United States" could still be held at Bagram.
Posted by: Thrineque Glorong3348 || 10/06/2006 00:56 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Japan to OK Extending Afghan Support
TOKYO (AP) - Japan's Cabinet on Friday approved a one-year extension of the law that allows the country's support of coalition forces in Afghanistan, a news report said.

Japan's navy has provided fuel for coalition warships in the Indian Ocean since November 2001 under a special anti-terrorism law set to expire on Nov. 1. It had already been extended in 2003 for two years and again for a year in 2005.

The government will submit the bill to parliament and hopes to have it enacted by the end of October, Kyodo News agency reported.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Horn
Somali Islamists vow holy war
Hundreds of Muslims took to the streets of this key southern port yesterday, vowing to fight a holy war for Somalia's powerful Islamist movement against proposed foreign peacekeepers. A day after a militia allied with the country's weak government vowed to retake Kismayo from the Islamists who seized it last week, at least 400 people marched through the town to protest plans for a peacekeeping mission. And, as a UN envoy shuttled through the region to prevent Somalia's unrest from spreading through the greater Horn of Africa, the demonstrators also vowed to crush any forces sent by neighboring Ethiopia to support the government. "We will never allow any foreign soldier to set foot on Somali soil," Sheikh Adam Elmi, an official in the Supreme Islamic Council of Somalia (SICS), told the crowd in Kismayo, which was taken by the movement on September 24.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  YAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/06/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Send in 60 US F/A-18s with iron bombs and watch this "sheikh" leave a brown stain all the way back to Mogodischu.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||


Islamists set up central Islamic court in Mogadishu
(SomaliNet) Somalia’s powerful Islamic Courts in Somalia capital have officially declared on Thursday the formation of supreme Islamic Sharea court of Banadir province in crucial meeting in Mogadishu – this is the first move by Islamists towards improving security and judiciary since they took control of the city June 5.

An announcement ceremony attended by all Islamic officials; both consultative and executive councils, intellectuals and civil society members has taken place in former villa Somalia presidential palace in central Mogadishu.

Sheik Hassan Osman Ahmed known as (Hassan Mahdi), the head of the judiciary office in the executive council of Islamic Courts read out the script of the court’s announcement.
Taking another glorious step towards Taliban rule ...
Posted by: Steve White || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  you should hear the live CD :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2006 10:35 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Khatme Nabuwat to lay siege to Ahmadiyya mosque at Tejgaon
Anti-Ahmadiyya outfit International Khatme Nabuwat Movement Bangladesh will lay siege to Nakhalpara Ahmadiyya mosque at Tejgaon in the capital after Juma prayers today. The Nabuwat leaders announced the programme Wednesday from a demonstration at Tejgaon after their demand of passing a law in the last session of parliament declaring the Ahmadiyyas non-Muslim went unheeded. "Since the government did not take any steps in this regard, lovers of prophet Mohammad will continue to lay siege to Ahmadiyya dens across the country," a Nabuwat press release said yesterday.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So much for any possibility of moderate Islam. Exterminate this corrupt and psychotic cult, now.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2006 3:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Give em a chance Zenster, they're going to exterminate themselves.
Posted by: Uneang Creagum5349 || 10/06/2006 10:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Give em a chance Zenster, they're going to exterminate themselves.

Nope, ain't gonna. They'll take too many of us along with them in the process. They already have.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2006 15:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Unfortunately Ahamdiyas are not Mohammedans. They think Muhammd is not the last prophet and its blood-thirsty book not the final expression of God's will. In fact AFAIK their post-Mohmamad prophets (ie those who are supposed to transmit revelation) were totally unlike Mohammad. I suspect they would have broken with Islam, if openly rejecting it would not signify death for their followers. Besides not bieng blood thirsty Ahmdiyahs have another feature who differnetiates them from ral Muslims: they produce science and had even a Scientific Nobel Price so the small Ahmadiya sect has more of them than all Islam put together.

Red on Red is when maintream Muslims kill each other and still better, the day when wahabis kill deobandis or the opposite.
Posted by: JFM || 10/06/2006 16:01 Comments || Top||


Britain
Straw 'opposes all Muslim veils'
Cabinet Minister Jack Straw has said he would prefer Muslim women not to wear veils at all. The Commons leader said he did not want to be "prescriptive" but he believed that covering people's faces could make community relations more difficult. Mr Straw has said he asks Muslim women at his Blackburn constituency surgeries if they would mind removing veils. Some Muslim women called his remarks insulting, but other Muslims said they understood his concerns.

Mr Straw is Labour MP for Blackburn, where about 30% of residents are Muslim. He sparked controversy when he told his local paper he asked female constituents visiting his surgery to uncover their faces - something they had all so far agreed to do. Asked on BBC Radio 4's Today programme if he would rather the veils be discarded completely, Mr Straw replied: "Yes. It needs to be made clear I am not talking about being prescriptive but with all the caveats, yes, I would rather."

Wait 'til they remember he's a jooo...
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/06/2006 05:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How long before the rabid 'Straw go to Hell' lynch mob appear baying for blood - Anjem Choudary at the helm?
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/06/2006 5:08 Comments || Top||

#2  I think he is right as the amount of veil wearers are incrasing.I see it in London myself!

My question do these women choose to wear the veil or are ordered???!!!

Bottom line they are all full time welfare spongers and how can you tell who is signing on????
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 10/06/2006 6:54 Comments || Top||

#3  CC7867, there is no free will in Islam, hence there is no duress either. "Choosing" to do something to avoid being raped, beaten, or killed is considered voluntary. If that answers your question about "choosing" to wear the veil.
Posted by: exJAG || 10/06/2006 7:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Makes it that much easier to round them all up when deportation time comes.
Posted by: ed || 10/06/2006 7:46 Comments || Top||

#5  CC7867: I'm thinking the ladies of islam wearing the veil are just doing their part in the jihad. Whether voluntarily or on orders from their imam or owner (read husband) matters little. I suspect many get a kick out of contributing, in their own small way, to the overall jihad to conquer the culture of England.
Posted by: Mark Z || 10/06/2006 8:11 Comments || Top||

#6  "I suspect many get a kick out of contributing, in their own small way, to the overall jihad to conquer the culture of England West."

Fixed it for ya.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2006 8:19 Comments || Top||

#7  mcsegeek1: I stand corrected. Thank you.
Posted by: Mark Z || 10/06/2006 8:39 Comments || Top||

#8  I will not speak to or acknowledge a veiled person. If they want to be incognito, then they can be - all the way. I don't talk to laundry
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2006 10:37 Comments || Top||

#9  "I don't talk to laundry"

Snark-o-the-day.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2006 10:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Agreed, mcsgeek1, lol.

And right on cue:
Straw draws criticism from Muslim groups

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But a leader of the Islamic Human Rights Commission said Straw's position "put barriers" in the way of Muslim women at a time when they are encouraged to participate more in British society.

"We're really astonished that someone so senior and responsible as Mr. Straw would make such a statement," chairman Massoud Shadjareh said. "I'm sure many people go (to his office) with many different types of clothing and fashions. Why does he suddenly have a problem with this? It's outrageous."
Posted by: .com || 10/06/2006 21:00 Comments || Top||

#11  "Why does he suddenly have a problem with this?"

The veil is Muslim society's officially sanctioned means of punishing women for the audacity of being born with a vagina and tits. It has nothing to do with modesty-it has to do with shaming and removing self-determination.

Wearing a veil in public in Western society is as appalling as wearing a t-shirt saying "I support slavery"-it promotes abuse of other human beings. Mr. Straw's comments aren't out of order.
Posted by: Jules || 10/06/2006 22:22 Comments || Top||


Jack Straw, angered Muslim groups by suggesting women in veils make relations tough
Posted by: 3dc || 10/06/2006 03:07 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  another "Dog bites man" story.

We need stories like "Muslim found not seething with Anger", "Muslim accepts negative comments about Mohamed without violent threats", "Rocking horse shit catalyses fusion".

Last one is most likely.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 10/06/2006 5:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey, you wanna talk to me, take off the damn veil. It's not polite to hide your face. That's MY culture, and in case you hadn't noticed, you're in MY office asking ME for favors.
Posted by: mojo || 10/06/2006 10:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey, you wanna talk to me, take off the damn veil. It's not polite to hide your face. That's MY culture, and in case you hadn't noticed, you're in MY office asking ME for favors

Asking for benefits i bet as they never work!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 10/06/2006 11:04 Comments || Top||

#4  Which thing about islam does not make relation tough with nons?
Posted by: Duh! || 10/06/2006 11:36 Comments || Top||

#5  hahahah, stating the painfully obvious to the willfully clueless. The sand clowns never fail to amuse.

Poor Brits, some of the most effacing, painfully polite folks taking it in the arse by some of the rudest house guests on the planet.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 10/06/2006 12:34 Comments || Top||


Cop refuses to guard Israeli embassy
London's top cop has launched an investigation into press reports Thursday of a Muslim policeman being excused from guarding the Israeli embassy on moral grounds. Police Constable Alexander Omar Basha, a member of the Metropolitan Police's Diplomatic Protection Group, was reassigned after he refused to guard Israel's embassy in Kensington, West London. PC Basha told his superiors he objected to the Israeli bombing campaign against Hizbullah in south Lebanon that caused the deaths of over 1,000 Muslims, and had participated in anti-war protests, The Sun reported. Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair promised an "urgent review" of the incident after The Sun broke the story.

In a statement to the BBC, however, the Association of Muslim Police stated PC Basha had requested reassignment because he had concerns over Lebanese family members and was perturbed about guarding the embassy during this summer's 34-day war in south Lebanon. "This is an issue around the welfare of a particular officer" and was not religiously motivated, AMP spokesman Superintendent Dal Babu said on behalf of the constable.

Former Flying Squad commander John O'Connor called Basha's reassignment "the beginning of the end for British policing."

"The Metropolitan Police are setting a precedent they will come to bitterly regret. Top brass granted his wish, as they were probably frightened of being accused of racism. But what they've done is an insult to the Jewish community," he told the Sun.

Dubbed the "PC PC" [politically correct police constable] by his critics, Commissioner Blair last week backed a proposal calling for consultation with a panel of Muslim leaders before mounting counter-terrorist operations. The Muslim leaders, who must undergo security checks, will advise the police on the potential political consequences of terrorist interdiction raids upon London's Muslim immigrant communities.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He can't be trusted to perform his duties in an unbiased manner even for something as simple as preventing a murder against a Jew. This means he should be fired. Any questions?
Posted by: gorb || 10/06/2006 4:14 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
"We are not going to live with a nuclear North Korea, we are not going to accept it,"
Posted by: 3dc || 10/06/2006 02:36 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  BOLTON on FOX > USA believes the Norkies have a few nukes already else why are they testing new types of long-range missles.The focii for the USA, for now, is to get the UNO-World involved in halting the proliferation of military-usable and other related nuke techs to regimes like North Korea's. The poten MILITARY OPTION(S) for the USA, however, is always on the table.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/06/2006 2:46 Comments || Top||

#2  "And if they DO test that nuclear weapon, we intend to write a VERY strongly worded letter! If that doesn't work, we will REMOVE Mr. Kim's diplomatic immunity from parking tickets when he is at the next General Assembly meeting! And if necessary, we are prepared to impose the ultimate sanction...Mr. Kim will be directed to actually PAY his liquor tab at the UN diplomatic dining facility!"
Posted by: Kofi Annan || 10/06/2006 4:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Take it easy, Kofi! It's only a little nuclear test, after all! :-)
Posted by: gorb || 10/06/2006 4:46 Comments || Top||

#4  State Department are not ball-bearing diplomats (except Darth Bolton).
Posted by: Captain America || 10/06/2006 5:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Kofi, for Gawd sakes, don't use the dreaded peach stationery for your strongly worded letter!!
Posted by: Captain America || 10/06/2006 6:01 Comments || Top||

#6  And when you send Hans Blix, make sure he doesn't move to the left.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/06/2006 9:56 Comments || Top||

#7  That's it Hans, just a couple more steps...
Posted by: texhooey || 10/06/2006 11:43 Comments || Top||

#8  Time to send Alec Baldwin and the members of F.A.G. as special emissaries.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2006 12:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Ahhh, Hanz Brix
Posted by: bombay || 10/06/2006 18:04 Comments || Top||


Kim Jong-Il has visited his army's military commanders,
Another, related story here.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/06/2006 01:14 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kim was greeted with cheers and shouts of "Let's fight at the cost of our lives for the respected Supreme Commander Comrade Kim Jong Il!" the agency reported

Let's not disappoint
Posted by: Captain America || 10/06/2006 1:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Did he stand on a tank so he could at least look the Army dudes in the eye????
Posted by: USN, ret. || 10/06/2006 15:12 Comments || Top||


US miliatry monitoring NKors (Duh)
TOKYO - A US military plane capable of detecting radiation has taken off from southern Japan amid concerns over a threatened nuclear test by North Korea, a news report said on Thursday. The plane, which can collect and analyze radioactive substances in the air, took off from the US air base at Kadena on the southern island of Okinawa, Kyodo News agency reported.

The plane is believed to be monitoring signs of a possible nuclear test by North Korea, Kyodo said. Col. Anne Morris of US Forces Japan refused to confirm the Kyodo report, saying she was not authorized to talk specifically about ongoing operations, but said US forces were on alert for any moves by the North. “Of course, everybody is being vigilant. But the US position remains that we hope North Korea will allow the situation to be resolved diplomatically,” she said.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...I'm hoping that right beside that -135, hidden nicely by the radar shadow, are two F-15s, loaded for Nork bear. I'd be very concerned that Kimmy might take a whack at the -135.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/06/2006 6:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Every day and in every way.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/06/2006 11:17 Comments || Top||


Europe
Europe Is Growing Skeptical Of Dialogue With Muslims
After years of dithering over political correctness with Muslims and Islam, Europe is waking up to a different morning.

A three-week tour of Italy, France, and Britain last month was enough for me to conclude that Western Europeans have moved way beyond dialogue. Confrontation, indeed even provocation, is their preferred approach to the Muslims in their midst.

Long before Pope Benedict XVI's scathing comments in mid-September on the fallacy of phony Muslim-Christian dialogue, signs of hardening European views toward current Islamic values were plentiful on the Continent.

It was telling, for example, to see how Europeans greeted the naïve commentary that surfaced in America's National Intelligence Estimate, titled "Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States." The NIE told bemused Europeans, among other things, that "greater pluralism and more responsive political systems in Muslim majority nations would alleviate some of the grievances jihadists exploit."

Situated closer than America to that rough neighborhood called the Middle East, Europeans reacted by noting that the chances for "greater pluralism" in any Muslim country are about as plausible as hell freezing over.

Should the region's despotic regimes be toppled, a number of press outlets observed, their successors would be even nastier murderers. Possibilities include the saber-wielding soldiers of the Muslim Brotherhood and its tributaries — Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Algerian Armed Islamic Group, among others — men who believe in carrying out ritual killings of their fellow Muslims even before the slaughter of infidels.

The common view in Europe is that pseudo-secularist tyrants in Muslim lands like Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan, Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia share the same aspirations to dominate, wage war, and rule as Osama bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and Ayman al-Zawahiri of Al Qaeda.

A more relevant passage in the NIE reads: "Jihadists regard Europe as an important venue for attacking Western interests. Extremist networks inside the extensive Muslim diaspora in Europe facilitate recruitment and staging for urban attacks, as illustrated by the 2004 Madrid and 2005 London bombings."

Indeed, what can one say about Britain's Muslims, when 10% of those polled after the August airliner plot said they would be "willing" to wage suicide attacks against their fellow Britons, and another 70% refused to condemn that view?

Europeans now see a need not to massage the Muslim ethos but to remove it. One can talk forever of the necessity for Islam to reform itself, but that fails to resonate within Muslim societies, Europeans tell me.

My European tour made it eminently clear that Western Europeans — if not their more liberal, compromised ruling and business elites — believe that for Muslims living in the West, it's either Western ways or the highway.

Harsh, maybe, but that is how it stands.

When the Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci died in September, newspapers across Europe celebrated her for her journalistic exploits with the likes of Ayatollah Khomeini and Henry Kissinger. But above all, they celebrated her for her fierce, uncompromising, "rejectionist" book about Islam in Europe, "The Rage and the Pride," which called for nothing less than the expulsion of Muslims who insist on separate societies.

Shortly before and after the pope's pointed remarks on Islam — in which he added to his earlier statements that Turkey's 70 million Muslims have no place in "Christian Europe" — there were numerous other mini-explosions. They included Dutch revulsion over the ritual Muslim killing of the movie director Theo van Gogh; the Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad; and, most recently, a September 19 article in Le Figaro by the French philosopher and schoolteacher Robert Redeker that made the case that Muslims are bent on muzzling Europe's democratic values.

Europe is no longer dithering. Every other week, parliaments are restricting the freedom of expression of Muslim fundamentalists, preachers, and madrassas, and questioning every value that militant Islam has attempted to sneak into the Continent over the past 20 years.

The dialogue is over. The time for action is closing in.

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/06/2006 11:14 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "My European tour made it eminently clear that Western Europeans — if not their more liberal, compromised ruling and business elites — believe that for Muslims living in the West, it's either Western ways or the highway."

That's why I call the EU a coup process.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 10/06/2006 12:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Time will tell.
Posted by: Evil Elvis || 10/06/2006 12:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Cheapest solution is to provide all of the muzzies a government subsidised, free ticket to the rat hole of their origin.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/06/2006 12:58 Comments || Top||

#4  "Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia share the same aspirations to dominate, wage war,"

WTF? Hosni just wants to protect his rule in Egypt. Anything else is just cover for that. This is nonsense.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/06/2006 13:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Hmmm. A tiny glimmer of light in the dark night, or unadulterated BS? Time will tell indeed.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2006 13:10 Comments || Top||

#6  It would be awfully helpful if the author is correct.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/06/2006 13:10 Comments || Top||

#7  "Every other week, parliaments are restricting the freedom of expression of Muslim fundamentalists, preachers, and madrassas, and questioning every value that militant Islam has attempted to sneak into the Continent over the past 20 years."

none of which is contradictory to dialogue with the rest of the muslim world. Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/06/2006 13:17 Comments || Top||

#8  none of which is contradictory to dialogue with the rest of the muslim world.

liberalhawk, just the fact of how you believe that "dialogue with the rest of the Muslim world" will accomplish anything at all indicates an IV drip of Kool-Aid somewhere. After all, just look at how Pope Benedict's attempt at "dialogue" has gone so very well. His efforts have earned him exactly how many death threats?

Islam has only one use for "dialogue". They call it "hudna". Look at Iran. Look at the Palestinians. Now look at the massive support throughout the Muslim world for both of these intolerable situations and how the Iranians and Palestinians employ every single kind of deceit imaginable to attain their ends. This is not just clerical or doctrinal support, it is grass-roots, ground-swell support at the individual level. Support for the way Iran and the Palestinians employ terrorism, threats, lies, deception, disinformation and every other moral and ethical sleight-of-hand they can come up with. Islamic "dialogue" is hudna and nothing else.

Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.

Then why do they continue to attend the Saudi financed mosques with their Saudi financed wahabbist cleric who so routinely preach "death to America" and "death to the kuffar"? Why are they not regularly boycotting these fountains of hate speech and denouncing the cleris who spew it? Why didn't they take to the streets waving the usual vomit of hateful cartoons shit out in fistfuls by the Saudi and Arab daily press when Denmark was being condemned and threatened? You come across as delusional. Your post over in the thread about Kriss Donald's murder goes a long way towards proving it.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2006 15:01 Comments || Top||

#9  The dialogue is over. The time for action is closing in.

This article is interesting. He doesn't say that he AGREES with Europe's response. In fact, one could read this article with a view that the European response is the target of his "time for action."
Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/06/2006 15:11 Comments || Top||

#10  WTF? Hosni just wants to protect his rule in Egypt. Anything else is just cover for that. This is nonsense.
liberalhawk, would you be interested in buying some interest in the Brooklyn bridge?
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/06/2006 17:07 Comments || Top||

#11  Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.


Just don't ask them so say so publically.

Or to criticize the actions of the fundamentalists.

Or to defend the rights of others to worship as they please.

Or to stand up for a free press.

Or to decry acts of violence.

Or to put any kind of meaningful action behind their wishes.

But other than that, I'm sure you're right--"they want to see the fundamentalists thrown out."
Posted by: Crusader || 10/06/2006 17:08 Comments || Top||

#12  Spot on, Crusader.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2006 17:41 Comments || Top||

#13  That's not what the European press or the European elites are saying. Don't know who the author was talking to, but it wasn't anyone with either power or a media soapbox in Europe. The elites are either spewing political correctness or trying to negotiate surrender.
Posted by: DMFD || 10/06/2006 20:03 Comments || Top||

#14  Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.

You can tell by how hard they work to accomplish it.

Been sniffing glue again, LH?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/06/2006 20:46 Comments || Top||

#15  C'mon, we all know dialog rulez, deeds are so low-brow, RC.
Posted by: .com || 10/06/2006 20:50 Comments || Top||

#16  .com, if you liked this thread, you'll loooove this one:

UK: Boy snatched off street, set alight and murdered for being white
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2006 22:32 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Fitzgerald: No hearts or minds will be won in such fashion
Greetings again from [Iraqi location]. I am a daily reader and just wanted to share an experience I had yesterday at a weekly meeting given by the [military] staff to the [military officers].

I arrived in typical fashion, early to get a seat and grab a beverage prior to the rush. When I approached the small fridge to grab a soda, I was told by another staff officer “sorry, no drinks, it’s Ramadan”. Incredulously, I replied, what!!!?. Turns out, we had 2 visiting Iraq Generals briefing a future operation, and in an effort to be culturally sensitive, the order was put out there would be no drinking in the presence of the Iraqis.

Greatly displeased, I drove on and found my seat. This Major was on a mission, there would be no drinking as I watched her chastise numerous officers. She then came to a man of Middle Eastern appearance in civilian dress who took up a seat behind the yet to arrive Iraqi Generals. He pulled out a cranberry juice from his pocket, and was quickly told he would not be aloud to drink anything during the meeting. He was clearly agitated, but put the juice away. It apparently slipped by the dutiful Major that the man she was correcting was an Iraqi translator who was Muslim! He was the Iraqi Generals personal translator. – from this letter from a military man in Iraq

[..]
More at link
Posted by: 3dc || 10/06/2006 02:15 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does America have any REAL Generals left, or just spineless 'culturally sensitive' PC wimps?
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2006 8:22 Comments || Top||

#2  The generals take their cues from the political leadership.
Posted by: ed || 10/06/2006 8:30 Comments || Top||

#3  The redicullous thing is Islam makes numerous exceptions to fasting during Ramadan. For example, diabetics are exempt. What if this Bozo had tried to impose her will on a diabetic Muslim?

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 10/06/2006 11:57 Comments || Top||

#4  It is time for these people to start thinking about how to win American hearts and minds. Mass murder, a culture of rape and the prospect of a global rule by a death cult seem a poor way to go about the project. Perhaps they might consider inventing something useful, endowing medical research or building something for themselves rather than paying other people do it using money stolen from oil production they did not develop, could not maintain and put to no good use.
Posted by: Flea || 10/06/2006 12:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Whilst on active duty, our CV had the pleasure(?) of pulling into Dubai during Ramadmadingdong; while out in town we had to play by their rules and i understood (but didn't like it) that, being guests in their house and all, but when we were back on the base, we still had to play. the only place we didn't have to was when we were back on board, even then the OOD and the brow watches couldn't even have water visible. They had to duck inside to get a drink. But being the hypocrites that they were, they had 'an American Room' set up in the back of a hotel where we could buy beer, and smoke to our infedel hearts' content. And they were happy to sell to us.
how long before the attempt is made to force this BS in the USA????
Posted by: USN, ret. || 10/06/2006 15:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Had nearly the same problem when we pulled into Al Jubail. One could drink coffee on deck, but on the side away from the pier. The Saudis had one or two of the mutwadeen at the pier's access point at all times.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/06/2006 21:16 Comments || Top||


Jihad Unspun Returning to Internet Due to Popular Demand
From Jihad Unspun
Khadija Abdul Qahaar, Publisher of Jihad Unspun (JUS), the popular Muslim website reporting uncut and uncensored news from the other side of the war on “terror” and JUSone News, the integrated news magazine that provides topical viewpoints and perspectives from Muslims and non-Muslims, has announced today [no date stated] that Jihad Unspun has returned to the web due to popular demand for the portal's signature content under the umbrella organization JUS Global Islamic News Network.

JUS rose to acclaim after it published some of the first evidence of American abuses in Afghanistan and Iraq that ultimately lead to the exposure of Abu Ghraib and has been highly regarded as an alternative media over the past five years.

Khadija Abdul Qahaar:

While our original plan was to upgrade Jihad Unspun to better meet the many open fronts that have developed five years on into the so-called “war on terror”, our intentions became redundant with the birth of JUSone that has allowed us to publish in-depth articles removing that burden from the Jihad Unspun portal. Furthermore, in market analysis we conducted since the launch of JUSone, readers relayed a continued desire for no- frills, fast read, uncensored news from the Muslim viewpoint that Jihad Unspun already addresses in its current format.

Now with two high quality distinctive web publishing products we are able to meet the demand of our market effectively. We are also unveiling this Ramadan a new online store where customers can purchase a wide range of video content, with books and other products to be added.

In addition, we have realized the need for a hard copy product that reaches libraries, universities and areas where web access is limited. We are currently looking into a variety of hard copy concepts in an effort to bring forward a hard copy product early next year inshaAllah.

JUSone News Magazine will now publish on the web weekly as a subscription driven product although non-subscribers will have access to some basic content services. Jihad Unspun returns as a no cost portal driven by store purchases, the popular JUSClub, as well as reader contributions.

The JUS Global Islamic News Network will encompass all of the JUS publshing products as a full scale multimedia publishing and content initiative.
Posted by: Thrineque Glorong3348 || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if the Lions of Fallujah are still resisting the American advance into the city?
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/06/2006 5:15 Comments || Top||

#2  I look forward to the return of the Giant Man Eating Spiders of Iraq and the daily tally of destroyed Abrahams tanks...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/06/2006 8:01 Comments || Top||

#3  And will Mike Sylvester return with it?
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/06/2006 8:12 Comments || Top||

#4  :>
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/06/2006 8:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Howard scares me: Iranian Moslems Debate With Iranian Christians About Religion
Posted by: ed || 10/06/2006 9:00 Comments || Top||

#6  My God Ed... he's back. Don't tell him I'm here.
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/06/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#7  JUS?
Posted by: JUSone || 10/06/2006 11:06 Comments || Top||

#8  *TWA Flight 800 WARNING Put on ur seat-belts*

15 min after i visited JUS yesterday, received a port 80 thingy from a server located on 5th St. Seattle, couple blocks from airport.

be advised: wear clean underwear.
Posted by: RD || 10/06/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Pace Lists WOT Stories NOT Published
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M., Oct. 5, 2006 – At each stop during a visit here yesterday, people asked Marine Gen. Peter Pace what stories are not getting out to the American people about the war on terror. In response, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff listed the three most significant stories from the war on terror that are not getting coverage.

Pace said one of the most significant aspects of the war not getting coverage is the enormous number of women going to school in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The Taliban in Afghanistan forbade women from attending school. Now, almost 50 percent of the students are girls, he said.

“That’s a huge change in attitude,” he said. “It also speaks well of the potential of a nation. Because I do not know how any nation aspires to greatness if it cuts itself off from one-half of its brain power.”

A second story not getting the coverage it deserves deals with health care. The health-care systems in Iraq and Afghanistan are getting better, the general said. “They are not great; it takes a long time to ‘build’ a doctor, but medical facilities are being built, expatriate medical personnel are returning and a great deal is going on,” he said.

The chairman said an often-overlooked aspect of the war on terror is what it takes for Afghan and Iraqi leaders to step up to their countries’ needs.

“Americans do not fully appreciate the courage of the individuals who are striving to lead in Afghanistan and Iraq,” Pace said. Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his government and Iraqi President Jalal Talibani and his government are working to build systems in the face of tremendous opposition, he noted. They are also trying to emplace democratic systems in countries that have never had them, Pace said.

Pace said the reason many stories are not getting out has to do with the fact that news is a business.

“When the war first began, we had 24-hour coverage,” he said. Anyone in America could see or read many aspects of operations in Afghanistan or Iraq.

But over time, because news is a business, “less and less of the resources go to the war in Iraq or Afghanistan,” he said. On television, less time is devoted to airing stories about the war as other stories come up. In newspapers and magazines, fewer column inches are devoted to the war. Also, in both cases, the media send fewer reporters to cover the story.

“News is a business, and the networks go with stories that attract attention,” he said during a lunchtime speech to the Kirtland Partnership Committee here. “So the good-news stories that might make it in a 24-hour, 7-day-a-week cycle might not make it in the 15-minute news cycle that the war has now. That’s just a fact.”

Pace said the military has to accommodate that fact. He said he has asked the military services to look at a program to allow servicemembers returning from Iraq, Afghanistan or the Horn of Africa to have a few extra days of administrative leave to speak to their fellow citizens. “They wouldn’t be scripted or coached,” the chairman said. “(The servicemembers would) in their own words, explain their experiences to their fellow citizens – the good, the bad and the ugly. This will give their local hometown folks a flavor of what’s going on.”
Posted by: Bobby || 10/06/2006 06:45 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like a good idea. Will they be armed so they can defend themselves from brownshirts who rush the stage to prevent them from speaking?

Funny how the MSM can devote entire months to flushed korans and a single incident of stupidity on the part of some soldiers while never-ever-Ever-EVER mentioning the reconstuction, education, helthcare, or any other advances. No its not 'News is Business' its 'We Hate America' on the part of the MSM.

But I don't think Pace would be able to get away with saying that.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/06/2006 10:50 Comments || Top||

#2  actually weve heard plenty over the years about afghan girls going to school. Much less about Iraqi girls, perhaps because Iraqi girls attended school before we were in Iraq.

Here are the stories Id like see that havent been in MSM. One about how civilian deaths violence in Iraq are back to what they were in July 2003. How Baghdad has electricity for more than 12 hours a day, consistently. How Iraqi officials move freely in Anbar province. How the Mahdi army has been disarmed.

Perhaps Peter Pace, the Dan Halutz of the USA, can explain how reporters in hotel bars are preventing us from hearing these things.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/06/2006 17:06 Comments || Top||

#3  lh, for the most part, I respect your opinions.

Not this one.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/06/2006 22:07 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Conspiracy alert! Pervs book full of typos and factual errors.
Posted by: Thoth || 10/06/2006 13:40 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Right under Musharraf's signature, the capital from where he rules Pakistan has been spelt "Islam Bad".

Can ya ship some of that Paleo popcorn over here?
This should be good...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/06/2006 15:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Often happens with ghost writers....
Posted by: Mark E. || 10/06/2006 16:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Zionist conspiracy.
Posted by: ed || 10/06/2006 16:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Those crafty Zionist proofreaders! It's an editorial plot!
Posted by: Jonathan || 10/06/2006 16:25 Comments || Top||

#5  It's certainly going to be perceived as such.

What an embarassement for Perv's launch. (Tee hee, bwahaaha).

Black-eye for Simon Shuster, but gawd, how very Perv. Verbatim, folks! Grab yer issue now!
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 10/06/2006 21:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Thinking further...
Do grab a copy. They'll be recalled and worth a fortune. Large fortune when Perv and Pak go down. Grab a piece of the next cartoon war (TM) memorabelia.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 10/06/2006 21:51 Comments || Top||

#7  It happens. Consider the Wicked Bible, the 1632 edition of the King James Bible, in which the Seventh Commandment was published as “Thou shalt commit adultery.”
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 10/06/2006 22:28 Comments || Top||


Croc tears: Pakistan Deeply Concerned By North Korean Nuclear Test Threat
Pakistan, whose disgraced chief nuclear expert has admitted selling secrets to North Korea, said Wednesday that Pyongyang's threat to test an atomic bomb was of "deep concern". The Pakistani foreign ministry also urged restraint from North Korea after the Stalinist state said Tuesday it would be compelled to carry out a nuclear weapons test due to threats and sanctions from the United States.

"The announcement by the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea regarding its intention to conduct a nuclear weapons test is a matter of deep concern for Pakistan," the foreign ministry said in a statement. "We urge the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea to desist from introducing nuclear weapons in the Korean peninsula which would be highly destabilising for the region."

The statement said Pyongyang "must exercise restraint and return to the six party talks."
Posted by: 3dc || 10/06/2006 01:12 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just keep it up, you shits. You'll pay dearly for this.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2006 3:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Posturing or trying to send a message of behaving responsibly? If they are serious, why would they care, other than their efforts have borne bad fruit and they want to distance themselves from it?
Posted by: gorb || 10/06/2006 3:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Feeling guilty because your shithole of a country told them how to make the nuclear weopans which perv knew nothing about???!!!

Everything comes back to Pakistan who in my opinion up with Iran and Noth Korea as my axis of evil!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 10/06/2006 6:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't forget about the uranium enrichment technology sold by the Pakistanis to North Korea.
Pakistan->NK: Nuclear bomb designs and U-235 enrichment.
NK->Pakistan: Nuclear capable ballistic missiles.
Posted by: ed || 10/06/2006 7:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, from a sales point of view Pakistan should be the proud supplier of North Korea's appearently successful nuclear purchases.
Posted by: Uneang Creagum5349 || 10/06/2006 10:33 Comments || Top||

#6  /me checks the boxes for
X posturing
X feeling guilty
X wondering who's next after NKor is dealt with
Posted by: SteveS || 10/06/2006 14:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Hey, how's Doc Khan's prostate these days?
I hope it hurts like hell...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/06/2006 16:19 Comments || Top||

#8  Wonder if this is a CYA attempt, and Kahn short-changed the Norks. Wonder what would happen if the test is either a spectacular failure, or if something totally unexpected happens, like a premature explosion. Either way, Kahn gets the purple shaft.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2006 18:06 Comments || Top||

#9  Pakistan doesn't want competition in the illicit nuclear proliferation market.
Posted by: DMFD || 10/06/2006 21:33 Comments || Top||


Islamabad Must Honor Anti-Terror Pledge: Manmohan
Pakistan has to prove it is sincere about working with India to counter terrorism, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh warned after police accused Islamabad of plotting blasts that killed nearly 200 commuters in Bombay. "Pakistan will have to walk the talk," to back up its promise to cooperate on terrorism, Manmohan told reporters Tuesday night. "Whatever has been discovered (by Bombay police), we shall share that information with Pakistan and test them on how sincere they are in carrying forward the commitment I and President (Pervez) Musharraf have underlined," Manmohan said on his plane trip home from South Africa.

Bombay police chief A.N. Roy on Saturday publicly accused Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), of orchestrating the July attacks on trains that also wounded 800. Pakistan has pledged to take action if India produces evidence to show that ISI was involved in the Bombay bombings, but has denied any role in the attacks. India froze peace talks with Pakistan in the aftermath of the attacks but agreed to continue the dialogue after a meeting between Manmohan and Musharraf in Havana on Sept. 16.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Perv is surrounded by realism, unlike his new book
Posted by: Captain America || 10/06/2006 1:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Perv has to be targeted along with Iran and North Korea!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 10/06/2006 6:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Perverse knows honor as much as a spoon can taste the soup. You must be kidding, Singh.
Posted by: Duh! || 10/06/2006 11:41 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
UN food expert: ICC should probe Israel
The International Criminal Court should investigate whether Israel is guilty of war crimes for a bombing campaign in Lebanon that blocked access to food and water, a United Nations rights expert said Thursday.

Jean Ziegler, the UN Human Rights Council's special envoy on the "right to food," said Israel's bombing of farmland and blockade of Lebanon's ports in its month-long war with Hizbullah, during the main farming and fishing season, caused considerable hardship to the Lebanese that was still being felt. "The government of Israel should be held responsible under international law for the violations of the right to food of the Lebanese civilian population," he said in an 18-page report. "Individuals should be held responsible for violations of the right to food and water."

Ziegler, an independent expert appointed by the Human Rights Commission, visited Lebanon in September in the aftermath of the 34-day conflict that ended in mid-August.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ahh... would that be the U.N. [in]Human Rights Comission?

Perhaps the ICC can get to that after they investigate the Gulags of North Korea, Slavery in Saudi Arabia (and other Islamic states), Dafur, Oil for Palaces, beheadings of christians in just about all islamic countries, etc...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/06/2006 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  No, lets go after the Jooooos first, they're worse.
Posted by: Uneang Creagum5349 || 10/06/2006 10:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Plus the Joooos all have like Jooo-cooties and stuff. Icky!

Any mention by the UN Human Rights guys (gawd, it's hard to type that without laughing) of the rights of the Israelis abducted/murdered on Israeli territory by the Hezbers? You know, the ones that kicked off this whole war thing. I thought not.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/06/2006 10:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Shouldn't "a special envoy on the right to food " be focusing on North Korea? Oh, but that would be too hard.

Far better to engage the UN's standard search under the streetlight mode.
Posted by: charger || 10/06/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Hope you'll be in your office between October 5 and October 10, Jean.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/06/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Faces of Iraq (Slideshow)
or hit the Faces of Iraq button in the upper left-hand corner of this.

Runs 3-4 minutes. Worthwhile, and well done.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/06/2006 06:57 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The shops with their weird collections of goods and steel roll-down doors, the weathered faces, the dusty dry backgrounds with evidence of human interference slowly dissolving back to sand, the facial expressions ranging from wary to weary to childlike exuberance, the sheer starkness - a completely mesmerizing memory trip, especially of my first tour in '92 in S.A. when I was in "tourist" mode and visited everything from Khafji to the outer villages of Bahrain, Qatar, and the UAE. Thx, Bobby. Now if the smells could also be communicated... :-)
Posted by: .com || 10/06/2006 20:33 Comments || Top||

#2  You're welcome, .com. Glad someone else noticed, and you were much more eloquent than I!

I saw some of that in Morocco in 1977, but it's a bit more of a tourist attraction than where you were!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/06/2006 22:06 Comments || Top||


Ramsey sez hanging Saddam a bad idea
Also noted by Jackal late yesterday, carried over.
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Ramsey Clark, a former US attorney general who is one of Saddam Hussein's lawyers, said that any death sentence against the former Iraqi president would increase violence in the strife-torn country. "It seems clear that a guilty verdict will set off catastrophic violence" and that a death sentence would be even worse, Clark told a Washington press conference.
"Oh, they'll seethe, they'll roll their eyes, they'll make faces!"
"It's hard to know how many Iraqis, dozens, hundreds, thousands, will die because of the sentence," he said.

A date for a verdict in the crimes against humanity trial against Saddam and seven co-accused, which opened in October, 2005, is due to be set soon after the trial resumes on October 16. If Saddam is found guilty and sentenced to death, Iraqi law lays down that he should be executed within 30 days, said Clark.
Which really should have been done within 30 days of when he was pulled out of the septic tank.
The US attorney general from 1967-69 reaffirmed his belief that the court is illegal because it was set up only to try Saddam.
No problem, the court can then try all the rest of Sammy's pals.
He criticised the judges because they were "selected, trained, paid, protected by the United States."
Yup, pretty much. Sweet deal, huh?
Posted by: Steve White || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I agree with Glark that is is a bad idea. Not painfull enuff. Quartering, though...
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/06/2006 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Dear Saddam,

rope, tree lamp post, and thee.
Posted by: RD || 10/06/2006 0:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Perhaps hanging him first, then announcing the death sentence, would be a more pleasing sequence of events?
Posted by: Hyper || 10/06/2006 1:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Ummm...well, then, can we just hang Ramsey instead?
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 10/06/2006 2:25 Comments || Top||

#5  rope, tree lamp post, and thee.

I have a picture in my mind and I thought I'd share it.

If/when they do hang the ba$tard, it would have been nice to have that old statue of him around that was pulled over when the US took Baghdad. That hand on the outstretched arm would have made a great place to hang his murderous a$$ from.
Posted by: gorb || 10/06/2006 4:21 Comments || Top||

#6  new headline "shock as former US attorney general want to ignore law to appease terrorists"
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 10/06/2006 6:57 Comments || Top||

#7  You tossing in the towel there already, Ramsey? Damn, another loss.
What's it like being the worst fuckin lawyer on the planet?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/06/2006 8:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Ummmm, how bout we hang Ramsey Clark instead? Asshat.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2006 8:24 Comments || Top||

#9  I agree. Hanging Ramsey Clark sounds like a GREAT idea! I'd love to get the chance to personally operate the drop gate.
Posted by: mac || 10/06/2006 10:06 Comments || Top||

#10  What. A. Tool.
Posted by: mojo || 10/06/2006 10:27 Comments || Top||

#11  If they don't hang him the insurgents will never get it out of their heads that he is comming back to power somehow.
Posted by: Uneang Creagum5349 || 10/06/2006 10:43 Comments || Top||

#12  Fine, we'll hook the bastard to a Humvee and give him one last tour. Hanging is just fine for Ramsey though.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 10/06/2006 12:37 Comments || Top||

#13  I like the idea of an industrial sized plastic shredder for this asshole, and for Saddam as well.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 10/06/2006 17:26 Comments || Top||

#14  "Are you threatening me?" -Bevis
Posted by: Mark E. || 10/06/2006 19:19 Comments || Top||

#15  #8 - i'm in a generous mood. why not hang them both?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/06/2006 19:24 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israeli Minister Voices Support for Saudi Middle East Peace Plan
A Cabinet minister from Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's party voiced support yesterday for peace negotiations on the basis of a Saudi initiative that has long been a nonstarter for extremist Israeli leaders.

"What Israel has to do is set the international agenda, certainly on the Israeli-Palestinian issue. By saying this, I believe we must grab the bull by the horns," Justice Minister Meir Sheetrit of the Kadima party told Israel Radio. Israel, Sheetrit said, should tell moderate Arab countries, including Saudi Arabia, "let's talk about your initiative." The minister's remarks represented the strongest expression of support yet from a member of the Israeli Cabinet for the Saudi proposal.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He used to be Likud's bright young man.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/06/2006 11:43 Comments || Top||


Israel to support plan to improve Gaza goods crossing
JERUSALEM - Israel announced on Thursday that it accepted a United States plan to place international observers at a key border crossing between itself and the Gaza Strip. The plan is aimed at improving living conditions in the Gaza Strip and is as part of the efforts by United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to strengthen moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas opposite the ruling, Islamic militant Hamas movement.

“I announced that I plan to help implement the ’Dayton Plan’ for building a Palestinian passage next to the Israeli Karni passage,” Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz said after meeting Rice in Jerusalem on Thursday.

Under the plan formulated by Lieutenant General Keith Dayton, the US security coordinator for the Palestinian areas, some 90 international observers would be stationed at the Karni commercial crossing, which would be run by the Abbas’ presidential guard.
We have a security coordinator for the Paleo areas? Who drew the short straw?
Currently the Palestinian side of the crossing is guarded by various security organizations, some of which answer to the Hamas-led interior ministry rather than to Abbas.

A modern terminal would be built on the Palestinian side with special equipment for scanning trucks, some 400 of which would be able to pass through daily. The plan is based on the model of the Gaza-Egypt border crossing of Rafah, which under an agreement reached in November last year opened under the supervision of European Union observers.
And boy howdy has that ever worked well.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told Rice during a dinner meeting late Wednesday that the Karni crossing would open “soon,” a statement from his office said.

Rice had earlier Wednesday met with Abbas and pledged to press Israel to improve the humanitarian conditions in the Palestinian areas. “I will of course see what I can do that some of those crossings will open longer hours and with greater frequency,” she told a joint news conference in Ramallah.

Speaking after his parley with Rice, Peretz said Thursday that he viewed improving the living conditions in the Palestinian areas and strengthening Abbas as an Israeli security interest. “I’ve made clear that we intend to do everything to improve the living conditions in the Palestinian Authority,” he said according to a transcript from his office.
And you'll have to do it because the Paleos are too busy buying guns and ammo. Then they'll thank you by trying to kill your kids.
But Israel rejected demands for additional humanitarian measures, including the transfer of custom duties which it collects on behalf of the Palestinian Authority on goods imported to the West Bank and Gaza through its ports and air ports.

Israel has frozen the transfer of the funds since the Hamas- dominated Palestinian parliament was sworn in in February. “We have no intention of opening a path for transferring money that will eventually serve Hamas,” Peretz said, adding that the “key” for releasing the funds was the release of an Israeli soldier held captive in Gaza by Hamas militants since June 25.
And throwing Hamas out of power, don't forget that.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sometimes I wonder: whose dumber they or us?
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/06/2006 11:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Given it "us" (not just israelis, but the West in general) who are paying the bills while they wage war against us, I'd say it's probably not them...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/06/2006 11:55 Comments || Top||

#3  They have done this before, at Rice's urging. Turned out to be a disaster. Why in the hell are they doing it again ?
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 10/06/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#4  They have done this before, at Rice's urging. Turned out to be a disaster. Why in the hell are they doing it again?
Because Rice's back?
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/06/2006 16:52 Comments || Top||


Egypt raises possibility of new Paleo election
Since the last one turned out so well.
CAIRO - Egyptian President for Life Hosni Mubarak raised the possibility of a snap Palestinian election to overcome a deepening crisis since Hamas’s rise to power, according to remarks published on Thursday. “Palestinian efforts could lead to early elections of the Palestinian Legislative Council to overcome the crisis between Fatah and Hamas,” Mubarak said in an interview with Al-Usba magazine carried by the state news agency MENA.

It quoted Mubarak as saying “Egypt has made major efforts toward forming a (Palestinian) national unity government but these efforts have come up against inter-Palestinian civil war differences.”
Posted by: Steve White || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It might be a bit early to ask for volunteers for suicide missions . . . .
Posted by: gorb || 10/06/2006 4:43 Comments || Top||

#2  apparently the polls are showing a dead heat between hamas and fatah right now.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/06/2006 10:05 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd prefer room temperature dead.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/06/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Navy Looking To Develop Internet On The Ocean
Posted by: 3dc || 10/06/2006 02:12 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sniff, sniff, and to think it only took 20 years to say it - yoohoo, Dubya, Admiral, do I get the medal now!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/06/2006 2:34 Comments || Top||

#2  ;-)

Actually, though, what is being proposed is a net with applications that will start merging information -- including cargo info. Result = allow us to do more monitoring of nature / origin / scan results etc. for containers at sea.

And ships.
Posted by: lotp || 10/06/2006 10:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Navy Looking To Develop Internet On The Ocean

I hope they include the p0rn needs of shrimps and octopus-es. i

salty sea p0rn ahhhhhh...
Posted by: RD || 10/06/2006 13:49 Comments || Top||

#4  IN THE NAVY
You can surf the seven seas!
IN THE NAVY
Posted by: mojo || 10/06/2006 18:14 Comments || Top||


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Sri Lanka Agrees to Hold Peace Talks in Geneva
Sri Lanka has agreed to hold crunch peace talks with the Tamil Tigers in Geneva on Oct. 28-30, the government said yesterday, amid efforts to halt a new chapter in the island's two-decade civil war. "The government has agreed to unconditional talks while retaining the right to retaliate if the LTTE launch any attack," the government said on its official website www.news.lk.

The Tigers, who have fought for two decades for an independent homeland, proposed the dates and wanted to hold the talks in Oslo. They were not immediately available for comment. Oslo's special peace envoy Jon Hanssen-Bauer held fresh talks earlier with Sri Lankan officials to try to set a date.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  great pic choice, Fred
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2006 10:44 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran claims to start mass production of a 85 shot/min 76-mm marine artillery gun
Posted by: 3dc || 10/06/2006 01:31 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...Goddam*it, be afraid of us!!!"

Signed, Iran

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/06/2006 6:18 Comments || Top||

#2  I confess I haven't kept to date with developmennts on the tube artillery area but shooting over 85 projetiles in minute by a 76 mm gun looks like an impossibility due to the severe recoil and heating problems. In addition shooting at neraly 20 km with a 76 requires a very, very high initial velocity and that makes the problem of heat and recoil still more acute.
Posted by: JFM || 10/06/2006 7:10 Comments || Top||

#3  The Iranians have copied a version of the Oto Melara 76mm naval gun (62 caliber, 85 shots/min) which Iran under the Shah bought. Newer versions of it can fire a peak 120 rounds/minute. The gun barrels are water cooled to fire at high rates.


Since Iranians don't have Oto Melara's permission, it unlikely they will export any except to the most outlaw dicatorships.
Posted by: ed || 10/06/2006 7:31 Comments || Top||

#4  The Italian OTO Melara 76mm weighs just 7.5 tons, with a rate of fire in the latest "super-rapid" version of 120 rpm. The Italian gun has become something of an international standard weapon, seeing service in some three dozen navies.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/06/2006 7:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Now it reamins how they have solved the wear and tear problem. Even with South-African techniques to reduce drag this looks like a high initial velocity gun.

High velocity tank guns last for about a hundred rounds. Of course having a gun last for only a couple seconds is acceptable if you obliterate the target.
Posted by: JFM || 10/06/2006 8:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Iran is building their legacy and contribution to the world’s military museums of war trophies.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/06/2006 8:40 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm sure it will be of similar quality to all Iranian military exports.
Posted by: Uneang Creagum5349 || 10/06/2006 10:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Now if they had devloped a 76mm/85 per minutes Gauss Cannon, I would be afraid.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/06/2006 10:52 Comments || Top||

#9  But they're still working on their other super secret project, the BFG.
Posted by: JUSone || 10/06/2006 11:14 Comments || Top||

#10  ..Ya know what - I may need to give Dinnerjacket and the boys an apology on this one. I'm finding all kinds of reputable online sites that list the Oto/Melara ROF at 80+ rds/min. If the iranian version is a land based weapon with a cooling system, it seems to be more than possible.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/06/2006 13:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Could be just the ticket for dispersing crowds of car-burning jihadists youths as well.
Posted by: Elmiper Flomolet9323 || 10/06/2006 14:03 Comments || Top||


Iran issues blacklist of 'Zionist firms'
In an effort to increase economic pressure on Israel, the Iranian government has published a blacklist barring trade with international companies that are said to be "affiliated to the Zionist regime and Israeli stockholders."

Speaking to the Iranian parliament on Sunday, Foreign Minister Manoucher Mottaki told deputies that Teheran was committed to bolstering an international Islamic embargo against the Jewish state. "Imposing sanctions on Israeli companies or firms in association with the illegal Zionist regime's interests is a legal responsibility and duty," Mottaki said, according to a report by the state-run Iranian news agency IRNA.
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