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Arabia
Yemen: Feeding young minds
In an effort to assess their impact in Yemeni culture, authorities have counted about 1,000 religious doctrinal schools operating in 11 governorates across the country. An official at the ministry of religious guidance and endowment said last week the campaign counted 941 schools. Most of them are out of authorities' control. These schools are teaching the Holy Quran and other principles of the Islamic religion, but with curriculum that fits the interest of the people running these schools. Some of these schools are financed by some charitable societies, mainly Islah Social Welfare Society while others are funded by some businessmen or political parties. Some were even financed by al-Harameen charitable society in Saudi Arabia which the Saudi authorities closed down as it was proved that the society was involved in fund-raising for terrorist activities. The investigations found out that just in Hodiedah schools around 810 people are working as teachers. The committee in charge of this task which was set up by the presidency expected to finish the task by the end of this year. This might disclose many more schools working with their own syllabuses without the knowledge of the authorities.

The most important consequence of the Sa'ada insurgency of Hussien al-Huthi is that it has raised concern over the religious doctrinal schools threatening the future of this country plagued with poverty and tribalism. The cabinet decided in its meeting June 29th to shut down such schools operating without license. It said in its statement "due to the connection between extremism, militancy and certain curricula that promote deviant and alien ideologies
the cabinet has issued orders for the immediate closure of all schools so as to realize moderation in Islam, preserve national unity, and to increase security and stability." Some of these schools are being supported by the government like al-Hawthi. The government plan was to stop funding of these schools which bring their closure and for the others which are being financed by some people in Yemen and from abroad, the government will close down.
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 8:44:58 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yemen, the ancestral home of the bin Laden clan gets it. If they don't clean up their madrassa droppings, their future is either religious civil war and/or western occupation.
Posted by: ed || 10/25/2004 21:05 Comments || Top||

#2  welcome to the Soddi Fodder Fold™...try to escape?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 22:32 Comments || Top||


Number of regions in Saudi to be increased from 13 to 18
Moves are under way to increase the number of regions in Saudi Arabia from 13 to 18 and give more powers to regional governors as part of administrative reforms, Arab News daily reported. The Ministerial Committee for Administrative Reforms has already completed studies on the issue of new regions and widening the powers of regional governors. Sources said that every regional governor will have full powers as there will be no need to refer back to the Interior Ministry, except in case of major issues, and this is intended to control the bureaucracy
."But that's impossible. How will the Emperor King maintain control without the bureaucracy? "
"The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line."
As per the new plan, the greater Riyadh region will be divided into three regions, Riyadh, Sudair and Dawadmi, two more regions will be formed in the Northern Province and one new region in the Southern Province. The northern border city of Gurayat is likely to become a new region.
No word yet on the fate of Alderaan.
Posted by: Steve || 10/25/2004 11:36:19 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It looks to me like more jobs for the boys.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/25/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Wow--I didn't realize Saudi Arabia had gotten bigger! [/blonde moment]
Posted by: Dar || 10/25/2004 12:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Nayef is the Interior Minister. I find it difficult to believe that he'll give up his control like that. Probably just speculation and not a serious proposal. And, math challenged? I count six new regions.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 10/25/2004 12:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Hm--that does read like six new regions. Something ain't right here.
Posted by: Dar || 10/25/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Guys, the existing Riyadh region is going away -- so you have to subtract that one from the count.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/25/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#6  So many Princes, so few Governorships.
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#7  On a more cynical thought. Nayef puts his boyz into the new slots, gives them "independent power", then leans back and says "Its not my doing, just local independents running their areas the way they want. Yes the Jihad Recruiting Office is down the hall next to the welfare office.
Posted by: Old Fogey || 10/25/2004 14:47 Comments || Top||

#8  RC--No, Riyadh is becoming 3 regions, which means a net gain of 2. One new region in the Southern Province (2 + 1 = 3). Gurayat becomes a new region (3 + 1 = 4). It depends on how you interpret the Northern Province split--either splitting it into two for a net gain of one (4 + 1 = 5), or forming two new regions by carving it into three altogether (4 + 2 = 6).

In any case, it could have been made clearer than this.
Posted by: Dar || 10/25/2004 20:38 Comments || Top||


Britain
Pro-hunting farmers ban military
Ten farmers, angry at the proposed hunting ban, have withdrawn land used by the Ministry of Defence. They say they will no longer allow the military to use land near Salisbury Plain, in protest at the government's plans to licence the activity. Josh Stratton who farms 3,500 acres in Wiltshire, said: "We feel the only way we can get politicians to listen is to do things like this." The MoD said other options were being considered for the military. Mr Stratton told the BBC: "The Labour Party are being incredibly vindictive towards rural people in the ban on hunting. "We feel the only way to get politicians to listen is to do things like this." The MoD owns nearly 100,000 acres of Salisbury Plain. In a statement, it said: "We are aware that there are farmers who, because of the decision to ban hunting, may choose to withdraw the use of their land. There will be some impact [from the ban] on Army training, but options to mitigate this are being considered."
Posted by: Steve || 10/25/2004 10:14:14 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Message to the Poms: If you don't like what Labor is doing, vote them out of office. And next time, think twice about putting them in there to start with.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/25/2004 10:35 Comments || Top||

#2  "...but options...are being considered."

The primary option under consideration seems to be shrinking the Army so much,it doesn't need training grounds.
Posted by: Stephen || 10/25/2004 10:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Bulldog, Howard et al: what's the ban on? Fox hunting or any hunting in general?
Posted by: Jarhead || 10/25/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Or they deploy to the US to conduct their training. The Luftwaffe has a regular establishment co-based with the USAF at Holloman AFB in New Mexico. Open spaces and clear skies makes it cost effective. I'm sure we have space available on a number of large installations. With the downsizing, they can move the excess equipment here to be prepositioned for training, only having to move the personnel. Big plus for interoperability training too.
Posted by: Don || 10/25/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Jarhead: The bill's really about banning the hunting of all furry, fluffy and feathery things, with dogs, minus a few exceptions (rats and rabbits, and other animals in special circumstances). So the ban would cover fox and deer hunting, and hare coursing. It doesn't apply to hunting without dogs.
Posted by: Bulldog || 10/25/2004 19:10 Comments || Top||

#6  I hear they hunt deer with cars.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/25/2004 19:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Yep, I've done that. Bagged a deer that way. Accidentally. Poor little bugger did cartwheels through the air.
Posted by: Bulldog || 10/25/2004 19:26 Comments || Top||

#8  They hunt pheasants that way in Pennsylvania. Pheasant àla Bumper -- tasty and tender!
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 20:17 Comments || Top||

#9  I hunted (accidently) ptarmagen with my plane once. On approach to the Kobuk airport, a flock of 30 or so ptarmagen flew up just as I was about at touchdown. One pink misted through the propeller. One hit the nosewheel, one on the left main gear and two on the wing struts. I landed, walked back to the touchdown zone, threw the guts of the first one off the strip, then picked up the other four and loaded them in the plane for a free ride home. It was late fall and the blueberries were fermented. The ptarmagen ate them and were already pre marinated when I cooket them up. Boy, they were tasty! **salivation city**
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/25/2004 21:51 Comments || Top||


Guardian says sorry, call for assassins was just a tasteless joke
From the Dept. of It Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time...
The Guardian has taken a remarkable step by replacing a column in which the writer appeared to call for the assasination of George W. Bush with an apology. The columnist, Charlie Brooker, reviews television programmes for the Guardian. In his October 3 column, "Dumb Show", Mr Brooker reviewed the debates between Mr Kerry and Mr Bush and found both candidates lacking -- but reserved a particularly venomous evaluation for Mr Bush.

He wrote:
Throughout the debate, John Kerry, for his part, looks and sounds a bit like a haunted tree. But at least he's not a lying, sniggering, drink-driving, selfish, reckless, ignorant, dangerous, backward, drooling, twitching, blinking, mouse-faced little cheat. And besides, in a fight between a tree and a bush, I know who I'd favour.
It was the closing paragraph, howver, that got global attention. In that passage, Mr Brooker wrote:
On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?
Today, the Guardian withdrew the column from its website, replacing it with this:
The final sentence of a column in The Guide on Saturday caused offence to some readers. The Guardian associates itself with the following statement from the writer.

"Charlie Brooker apologises for any offence caused by his comments relating to President Bush in his TV column, Screen Burn. The views expressed in this column are not those of the Guardian. Although flippant and tasteless, his closing comments were intended as an ironic joke, not as a call to action - an intention he believed regular readers of his humorous column would understand. He deplores violence of any kind."
All of which leads one to wonder whether the Guardian doesn't have a special, private dictionary in which "irony" has a definition not readily available to the rest of the world. Welcome as the apology was, it fell short. Ironically, the Guardian seems unaware of the full import of the original column. But the well known Powerline Blog perhaps summed it up best:
"This is, of course, where the liberal campaign of hatred and violence has been going for some time. I do think it is likely that someone will get killed; I hope it isn't President Bush. One can only wonder: if such a tragedy occurs, will the liberals come to their senses?"
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 11:10:54 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Although flippant and tasteless, his closing comments were intended as an ironic joke

Bet he'd be hilarious with a piece about mass graves.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/25/2004 0:55 Comments || Top||

#2  You should hear his Holocaust routine ...
Posted by: Steve White || 10/25/2004 0:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Charlie Brooker did not make an ironic joke. He alludes to wishing that our President be assasinated. We do not find this a joke, and I am sure that the Secret Service will have his name on the list of persona non grata in the US. Jokes like this are like jokes uttered about bombs in airports. They will get one into trouble, jug, or worse.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/25/2004 1:01 Comments || Top||

#4  I am certain such comments made against a certain prime minister in Mr. Boogerz Brooker's home country might result in a quiet visit and talk by the "authorities." Since the UK has no constutition or "bill of rights" it is all quite possible. Freedom of expression in the "Human Rights Act" isn't "freedom of the press" so a visit would be quite legal as far as I can tell.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/25/2004 1:15 Comments || Top||

#5  They admit and concede it was tasteless and ironic? OK, let's go with the ironic part. Off with their effen 'eds.
Posted by: Asedwich || 10/25/2004 1:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Since the UK has no constutition

No written constitution. But it's still there, somewhere. Some of our British fellow Rantburgers might shed some light on that.
Nonetheless, I thought insulting a head of state was illegal in Europe and the UK. OK, so he was calling for his death, not precisely an insult, but hey...close enough.
Posted by: Rafael || 10/25/2004 2:49 Comments || Top||

#7  What it actually shows is how casual Bush-contempt and US-hatred is in the UK amongst a certain class of "intelligentsia". They probably honestly thought most people would just laugh knowingly.

Actually, I normally like Charlie Brooker's columns. He's a very funny writer when he's skewering his usual target, British "chav" culture.

He also has a history of controversiality. He used to write for a UK PC games magazine and nearly got chucked off that for hosting a regular column that was deemed in bad taste.
Posted by: Guru George || 10/25/2004 4:09 Comments || Top||

#8  my corner of the civilised world will be praying that Bush wins . So much for Guardian providing class reporting (not that they ever had) .
Oohh on a side note , wish they would make the crossword in the newspaper harder . Simple things for simple minds i s'pose
Posted by: MacNails || 10/25/2004 6:25 Comments || Top||

#9  I think it's only fair that we call for the CIA to farm out contracts to assassinate the entrire editorial staff of AlG. What's the unemployment rate in Bulgaria for ex-Sov hit men? Might fill this order on the cheap.

No worries, AlG, it's just tasteless irony.
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 6:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Ya know, the newspapers serving Clark County, OH should publish an editorial/"humor" piece wishing for the assassination of idiot British newspapermen who try to muddle in the affairs of supposedly allied nations.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/25/2004 8:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Shouldn't the headline read:

"Guardian says sorry, call for assassins was just a tasteless joke"
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/25/2004 11:17 Comments || Top||

#12  It's only ironic if Mr. Brooker is shot by an assasin in the mistaken idea that he is the President.
Posted by: mojo || 10/25/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#13  "Charlie Brooker apologises for any offence caused by his comments relating to President Bush in his TV column, Screen Burn. The views expressed in this column are not those of the Guardian. Although flippant and tasteless, his closing comments were intended as an ironic joke, not as a call to action - an intention he believed regular readers of his humorous column would understand. He deplores violence of any kind."

Or How about the truth...

Charlie Brooker apologises because he was contacted by Scotland Yard, after they were contacted by the US Homeland Security Department, who was inundated by complaints about threats against President Bush by Mr. Brooker. Mr. Brooker was reminded of the fact that in Britian, unlike the US, people can be arrested for terrorist threats. And, they can disappear in the prison system indefinitely. Ask certain members of the IRA -- if you can find them.
Posted by: BigEd || 10/25/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#14  This sort of thing never happened back when the House of Lords was hereditary. I blame the upsurge in violence on Prince Willie's behaviour.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 10/25/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#15  Ok, I guess we can take Charlie's picture out of the cruise-missile targeting database.
Oh, wait, there's still Clark County, Charlotte "Moab vagina-bomb" Raven's post 9-11 taunting, and, worst of all, the recent desecration of the Bard's memory.
AlG's address stays in the database.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 10/25/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#16  Hey Charlie Booker, I hope your children die of AIDS. Please take that in the ironically humorous way it was intended, because I'd hate to have to make a grudging, back-handed apology explaining how my words were taken out of context.
Posted by: BH || 10/25/2004 22:59 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
S. Korea Finds Signs of Border Infiltration
South Korea's military tightened roadblocks and traffic checkpoints north of Seoul after finding signs of possible infiltration by North Korean agents on Tuesday, officials said. South Korean border guards found a hole in the wire fence that forms the southern boundary of the 2.5-mile wide Demilitarized Zone that separates the two Koreas, a Defense Ministry spokesman said, speaking on customary condition of anonymity. The 16- by-12-inch hole was discovered early Tuesday near Yeoncheon, a border town some 40 miles north of Seoul. The increased security along the roads between Yeoncheon and Seoul came as U.S. Secretary of States Colin Powell was visiting South Korea to discuss a strategy for restarting stalled talks on North Korea's nuclear weapons programs.
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 8:40:04 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Has SK considered leaving out food at the border? Some bul gogi, gim bap, and kim chee will attract NK infiltrators like flies to shite.
Posted by: ed || 10/25/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||

#2  The encroachments and excursions will continue, as the North 'flexes' their muscle for points. No sympathy here, I still remember the S. Koreans protests during the Iraqi war and no encouragement to our basing there!
Posted by: smn || 10/25/2004 22:14 Comments || Top||


Anti-Korean Group Linked to Bangladesh islamic Party
The Dawatul Islamia of Korea, an anti-South Korean Islamic organization detected by the government in April, was confirmed to be a branch of an Islamic political party in Bangladesh. Rep. Kim Jae-gyeong of the opposition Grand National Party (GNP), who revealed the presence of the group on Oct. 13, said yesterday the Dawatul Islamia of Korea was confirmed as the Korean branch of the Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, a party espousing Islamic fundamentalism. He said the group based in Anyang, just south of Seoul, was reported to maintain an anti-American stance in Bangladesh.

The lawmaker said he confirmed the fact during the parliamentary inspection on the Ministry of Justice on Friday, citing a report by the immigration office that was based on probes by the nation's intelligence agency. According to the report, the anti-Korean Islamic group had tried to lure Muslims illegally residing in Korea. On Oct. 13, Rep. Kim said that the immigration office deported five undocumented migrant workers from Bangladesh who were deported in April for establishing the Islamic group in South Korea. Kim said one of those deported was a member of the Jamaat-e-Ismai. He was found to have sent 60 million won to the party after raising the money from his followers in South Korea. The man set up the Islamic group in Anyang, where a mosque is located, since he became the imam of the mosque in August 2000. This is the first time authorities have detected an anti-South Korean group of foreign residents here.
"Normally, our anti-South Korean groups are composed of South Koreans."
Posted by: Steve || 10/25/2004 11:07:15 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


'US scaring voters with submarines threat': N Korea
SEOUL: North Korea accused the United States of trying to influence voters in next month's presidential election by scaring them with reports of North Korean submarine incursions into South Korean waters.

Earlier this month, South Korea launched exhaustive but fruitless search-and-destroy missions around its coast after what South Korean media reports said was a US military tip-off about two North Korean submarines.

"We would like to clarify that this case itself is a fabrication and a far-fetched assertion to serve the purpose of the anti-DPRK scenario worked out by the US," the North's official KCNA news agency quoted a North Korean military spokesman as saying late on Saturday.

DPRK is short for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

"Through this, the present ruling quarters in the US sought to hype up the fiction of possible provocation from the DPRK in a bid to influence American voters in the run-up to the presidential election there," the spokesman said. The spokesman said the submarine report had also been intended to dramatise North Korea's failure to return for a fourth round of scheduled talks in September on its nuclear programmes. reuters
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/25/2004 2:29:42 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gawd, we're devious! *applause*
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 6:41 Comments || Top||

#2  North Korea accused the United States of trying to influence voters in next month’s presidential election by scaring them with reports of North Korean submarine incursions into South Korean waters.

As we all know, South Korea is a vital swing state, and both sides are working hard to win over the undecided "merchant convoy mom" vote. The latest NYT/CBS/Zogby/Opinion Dynamics/CNN/Fox/M-O-U-S-E poll has Bush +3 over Kerry, with a margin of error of . . . .
Posted by: Mike || 10/25/2004 10:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Lol, Mike! The Snark Award is yours, bro!
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Is that "snark" or "shark?"
Posted by: Mike || 10/25/2004 12:08 Comments || Top||

#5 
"I'm so lonely..."
Posted by: BigEd || 10/25/2004 12:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Lol, Mike / Big Ed! I do love Rantburg so... ;-)
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 12:27 Comments || Top||

#7  Guess next time we should just sink 'em first, then tell the SKors about them. That way, they can't run, can't hide.

I think DPRK bought two Russian "KILO" class diesel subs about eight years ago. Wonder how much crack they had to sell to buy those?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/25/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#8  I wonder how much crack their crews have to use to submerge in a Kilo class coffin sub.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 10/25/2004 13:50 Comments || Top||

#9  The real question is how much crack would you need to dive a Whiskey. :)
Posted by: Shipman || 10/25/2004 15:00 Comments || Top||


Powell: North Korea terrorist state
US Secretary of State Colin Powell pressed North Korea yesterday to return to nuclear disarmament talks even as he branded the communist country a "terrorist state" that has "no respect for human rights." Powell's strong comments came after North Korea accused the United States of "evermore hostile acts," including US participation in a multinational naval exercise set to begin today off the Japanese coast. The maneuvers are part of an effort to curb the smuggling of missiles and nuclear technology on the high seas.

North Korea dominated Powell's discussions in Japan with Prime Minister Junichiro and other officials. Later, Powell flew to China where he planned talks today with President Hu Jintao on North Korea, Taiwan and other issues. Powell's final stop during his trip to East Asia will be South Korea. At a news conference, Powell gave assurances that US President George W. Bush is seeking a peaceful solution to the impasse over North Korea's nuclear weapons programs. The United States wants the permanent dismantling of these programs. Three meetings involving the United States, the two Koreas, China, Japan and Russia have been held in China, with little evidence of progress.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/25/2004 2:23:25 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought Powell's brief was to act as the "good cop" but now he calls NoKo a "terrorist state" -- does that mean the "bad cop" is getting very upset and ready to act?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/25/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Powell: North Korea terrorist state

BGO*

*(Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious)
Posted by: Zenster || 10/25/2004 23:20 Comments || Top||

#3  but still surprisingly - for State- welcome
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 23:22 Comments || Top||

#4  but still surprisingly - for State- welcome

Perhaps saddest of all is not Kim's continuing grip upon power, but the fact that you're right, Frank.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/25/2004 23:42 Comments || Top||


Europe
French Drop Anti-Semitism Awareness Plan
Vichy days are here again!
A Jewish group said Sunday it plans to "modify" its publicity campaign to fight anti-Semitism that showed an image of Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary with the slur "Dirty Jew" scrawled across it to mimic graffiti after it drew negative reactions. "Faced with the reactions to this campaign against anti-Semitism, the Union of Jewish Students of France has decided to modify the visuals," the group said in a statement.

The advertisements were due to be published in French newspapers this week. Last week newspapers ran articles previewing the ads, which were designed to shock and draw attention to France's ongoing battle against anti-Semitism. "We have to accept that something strong is needed today to fight against anti-Semitism," Yonathan Arfi, the group's president, said. "And we thought these advertisements were good. We thought they were strong." Arfi said that "reaction came from everywhere" and eclipsed the goal of the campaign, which was not to spark anger or show disrespect for Catholicism. France has the largest populations of Jews and Muslims in western Europe and has suffered a rising tide of anti-Semitic crime since 2000, when tensions between Israelis and Palestinians worsened in the Middle East
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/25/2004 1:23:12 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They're still campaigning to be the one the crocodile eats last. What a noble cause.
Posted by: Dar || 10/25/2004 12:01 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
New Kerry Promise: No Terrorist Attacks Anywhere in the World!
Truth (and I use the term loosely) truly is stranger than fiction:

John Kerry claimed Monday that if he's elected president he'll prevent all future terrorist attacks both inside the U.S. and around the world.

They're stretching his commnet a bit but only a bit.

Thanx to Drudge for the lovely graphic!
Posted by: AzCat || 10/25/2004 12:26:53 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, the blind shall see, the lame shall walk, and the terrorists shall make peace with the infidel.

And remember, only if they are elected will there be no domestic disturbances.
Posted by: jackal || 10/25/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Oooooh! With power like this (echoing jackal's excellent parody - just need the lamb and the lion laying each other thingy to complete it, heh), I'm thinking this guy is actually Santa Claus. The fat jolly old Elf thing was a ruse to keep us from recognizing the real Santa. He's a tall horse-faced insane person. Who'da thunk it?
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 14:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Saggitarius! We have arrived!
Posted by: half || 10/25/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Faster then a speeding waffle....

More powerful then a loco - motive

Able to flipflop tall issues in a single bound!

Its a bird! Its a plane!

Its SKERRYMAN!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/25/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#5  This is NOT Scrappleface?
Posted by: True German Ally || 10/25/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#6  I heard an extract from one of Kerry's speeches made yesterday, I think, in which he accused Bush of overhyping terrorism in order to make the electorate 'afraid'. Next thing he was talking about was the disappearance of the explosives in Iraq, and raging about how that materiel would be in the hands of terrorists, and used to kill American servicemen and Iraqis. You can't have it both ways, John. Incredible hypocrisy, which would be funny if it wasn't coming from a man who will say absolutely anything in order to snatch the reins of the free world. Kerry has no integrity whatsoever, and no credibility, at least for anyone who isn't entirely credulous, or a cynical fellow-traveller.
Posted by: Bulldog || 10/25/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Kerry is working on his conversion inauguration speech right now.
Posted by: ed || 10/25/2004 19:38 Comments || Top||

#8  John Kerry: Peace Through Bullshit Superiority
Posted by: Matt || 10/25/2004 20:00 Comments || Top||

#9  That's because they won't be "terroris tacts" they'll be "criminal ones"
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 10/25/2004 23:30 Comments || Top||


Al-Guardian: Bush exploits suffering of 9/11, says Carter
EFL and Hurl-Limits
George Bush has exploited the suffering of September 11 and turned back decades of efforts to make the world a safer place, the former president Jimmy Carter says in an interview with the Guardian published today. Attacking Mr Bush and Tony Blair over Iraq, Mr Carter calls the war "a completely unjust adventure based on misleading statements". He also criticises Mr Bush for "lack of effort" on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and accuses him of abandoning nuclear non-proliferation initiatives championed by five presidents.

The US "suffered, in 9/11, a terrible and shocking attack ... and George Bush has been adroit at exploiting that attack, and he has elevated himself, in the consciousness of many Americans, to a heroic commander-in-chief, fighting a global threat against America," Mr Carter says. "He's repeatedly played that card, and to some degree quite successfully. I think that success has dissipated. I don't know if it's dissipating fast enough to affect the election. We'll soon know."
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 12:37:04 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  .. the former president Jimmy Carter says in an interview..

To borrow a couple of words that the Poms like to use, Mr. Peanut Brain needs to sod off.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/25/2004 12:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Mr. Carter needs to realize that his soft stance toward hostages in Iran was the real start of the present troubles. Someone needs to bring this point to the public. Of course the MSM won't do it.

Then there is the issue of Jimmuh being the point man for Clinton's NORK appeasement project.

Then Jimmuh is all played up by the MSM for his religious faith, but GWB, also being a Christian is branded a religious fanatic.

Carter has been a disaster for this country, even though his persona has been purveyed as a nice guy.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/25/2004 14:33 Comments || Top||

#3  he had a seat with Michael Moore at the convention. Jimmy is a bitter old hateful man who parades his reliousity as a shield against criticism. Well, I say Fuck him
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Still a point of pride for my family that we whipped his ass in a bad seed lawsuit.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/25/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#5  religiousity -D'oh! and still : Fuck 'em,
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#6  Carter is a lot like Kerry-"play it soft to the international community and maybe they'll forgive America it's horrid soul". Another neurotic guilt complex on view 3-5 Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 10/25/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Some people just can't slide into irrelavince gracefully.
Posted by: raptor || 10/25/2004 18:44 Comments || Top||

#8  Some people just can't slide into irrelavince gracefully.

You must be refering to his inauguration when he got out of the car and walked down Pennsylvania Avenue.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/25/2004 18:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Jimmy's probably pissed the National Christmas Tree has never been dimmed or we haven't boycotted the Olympics yet. That would've been his response to 9/11.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/25/2004 21:04 Comments || Top||


He's at it again.... Kerry didn't meet with UNSC before voting on Iraq....
as he claims. Remember this in one of the debates... Just shook my head.... and thought.. there is no way... Finally, he is being questioned it.... but I've got 5 bucks that says, only Fox will mention this....
U.N. ambassadors from several nations are disputing assertions by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry that he met for hours with all members of the U.N. Security Council just a week before voting in October 2002 to authorize the use of force in Iraq. An investigation by The Washington Times reveals that while the candidate did talk for an unspecified period to at least a few members of the panel, no such meeting, as described by Mr. Kerry on a number of occasions over the past year, ever occurred.

At the second presidential debate earlier this month, Mr. Kerry said he was more attuned to international concerns on Iraq than President Bush, citing his meeting with the entire Security Council. "This president hasn't listened. I went to meet with the members of the Security Council in the week before we voted. I went to New York. I talked to all of them, to find out how serious they were about really holding Saddam Hussein accountable," Mr. Kerry said of the Iraqi dictator.

Speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York in December 2003, Mr. Kerry explained that he understood the "real readiness" of the United Nations to "take this seriously" because he met "with the entire Security Council, and we spent a couple of hours talking about what they saw as the path to a united front in order to be able to deal with Saddam Hussein." But of the five ambassadors on the Security Council in 2002 who were reached directly for comment, four said they had never met Mr. Kerry. The four also said that no one who worked for their countries' U.N. missions had met with Mr. Kerry either. The former ambassadors who said on the record they had never met Mr. Kerry included the representatives of Mexico, Colombia and Bulgaria. The ambassador of a fourth country gave a similar account on the condition that his country not be identified.
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Posted by: Sherry || 10/25/2004 12:27:48 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If he had met with them he would have known France, Germany and Russia had no intention of enforcing any real action agaist Saddam. The guy is mental.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/25/2004 1:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Kerry's not mental, he just operates from a pure lust for power. If we were to peel away all of the layers of John Kerry that comprise his lust for power we'd be left with nothing as there's quite literally nothing else there. He's the unprincipled side of Ayn Rand's egoist ideal, the thing that happens when one acts from one's pure self interest but in a dishonest manner.

Kerry has correctly surmised that he can win this election by simply casting out a continuous stream of lies and distortions that go far beyond anything we've seen in American presidential politics to date because it's far easier to start fires than to put them out.
Posted by: AzCat || 10/25/2004 1:56 Comments || Top||

#3  The Phantasy Candidate. Secure in the knowledge that he'll get a pass from the MSM - and utterly discounting the pajamahadeen who already know he's the most disingenuous demagogue in modern poltitical history, he will say whatever his operatives tell him will make good sound bytes.

The Demagogue Party. New and Improved! Shameless! Wrinkle Free!
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 6:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Lol - FoxNews just reported this and named names, heh.

Just more of Skeery dissin' any country that isn't Phrawnce or Germany as inconsequential - and inflating the event to make himself seem consequential. Wotta transparent asshole.
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 8:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Wow, Kerry met with representatives of Cameroon. Well, I'm impressed.
Posted by: mhw || 10/25/2004 8:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York in December 2003, Kerry said:
Thanks to some friends in New York, I was invited to come up and meet with the Security Council in the week prior to the vote, and I wanted to do that, because I valued my vote. And I wanted to know what the real readiness and willingness of our partners was to take this seriously.
So I sat with the French and British, Germans, with the entire Security Council, and we spent a couple of hours talking about what they saw as the path to a united front in order to be able to deal with Saddam Hussein.


He sez he met with Germany just a week before voting in October 2002 to authorize the use of force in Iraq. One little problem, Germany didn't start their current period on the Council until January 2003. Maybe he got them confused with the Cambodians.
Posted by: Steve || 10/25/2004 9:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Bill of INDC Journal was teasing us with this the other day. Apparently he had something to do with the story, but I don't know what. I think it's a big So What. It's not, as they say, spin-proof. "Oh, well, by all the members of the council I meant some of them, and by "met", I meant that I introduced myself to a guy in the corridor, whom I'm fairly sure had something to do with the French delegation, who didn't know me from Adam..."

If the media can't get worked up about Christmas in Cambodia, this won't stir them either.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 10/25/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||

#8  Well this is good news!
If every time he says he's going to work with the UN he means like this, then America might be okay.
Posted by: Urako || 10/25/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#9  I heard this on Boortz today. I'm not surprised one bit.
Posted by: Jarhead || 10/25/2004 10:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Kerry can't be acting in his own self-interest -- there is no "self" there! The man is a void. The reason he shows no character is that there is no fiber in him, no identity. He shifts whenever he can, and lies whenever it suits his passing fancy. The only relatively constant theme of his has been opposition to American interests and support of Communist States. At best, his self is describable as being non-American if that can be seen as some sort of identity.

What is apparent though is that Kerry is a power-luster. He wants power for its own sake, not for some higher purpose. He invokes "plans" as if he really wants to achieve specific goals, but he has no purpose -- as evidenced by his complete lack of initiative over the last 20 years in the Senate.

This is the type of neurotic who is easily manipulated. And who is very dangerous once you let him have power. He doesn't value truth or liberty. He wants a position of power, but he doesn't know what it's for, because he is the ultimate pragmatist -- picking whatever action fits the moment, without principles. So, should he become President, you can expect him to be as dangerous for US liberties and prosperity as FDR was.

Luckily, I am convinced Bush will be re-elected.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/25/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#11  Gee, you mean Senator Kerry is a lying sack of shit? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell yez!

He'll probably get a pass from the MSM on this.
Posted by: mojo || 10/25/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#12  When Kerry is elected he will re-institute that fine old European custom of titles of nobility. Since he is not an ambitious man he will take only the title of baron.

Baron von Munchausen
Posted by: Cleamp Slang9997 || 10/25/2004 18:25 Comments || Top||

#13  After Paris and Managua don't you understand that this guy simply wants to be on the other side of the U.S. policy. He wants to be that soft end of policy when it calls for a point end. He clearly is not above lying to ?win? political points.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/25/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||


NYT "discovers" explosives are missing in Iraq
This looks like a desperate attempt to counter the alleged Kerry problem story for tomorrow
The Iraqi interim government has warned the United States and international nuclear inspectors that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives - used to demolish buildings, produce missile warheads and detonate nuclear weapons - are missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations. The huge facility, called Al Qaqaa,
Kaka?
was supposed to be under American military control but is now a no-man's land, still picked over by looters as recently as Sunday. United Nations weapons inspectors had monitored the explosives for many years, but White House and Pentagon officials acknowledge that the explosives vanished after the American invasion last year. American weapons experts say their immediate concern is that the explosives could be used in major bombing attacks against American or Iraqi forces: the explosives, mainly HMX and RDX, could be used to produce bombs strong enough to shatter airplanes or tear apart buildings..... After the invasion, when widespread looting began in Iraq, the international weapons experts grew concerned that the Qaqaa stockpile could fall into unfriendly hands.
Posted by: RWV || 10/25/2004 11:02:59 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So the NYT is saying that, likely during during the invasion in March, someone made off with items from a military installation that our guys weren't guarding because they were busily marching through the countryside and into Baghdad? Okidokie, then.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/25/2004 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Lemme guess: unnamed sources, right?
Posted by: badanov || 10/25/2004 0:37 Comments || Top||

#3  How the hell do you "loot" 380 tons?

That must have been one hell of a truck that Zarqawi was driving ...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/25/2004 1:36 Comments || Top||

#4  well if they made off with 380 tons of explosives--dja think they could have skidaddled with 20 pounds of anthrax and chem weapons--huh huh
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 10/25/2004 1:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Just wait until the NYT discovers it's missing credibility and influence - won't that make for a blockbuster story!

Pfeh. Flagship of Fools and Has-beens.
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 7:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Abu the sheephearder has it and has been cooking with it for months.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/25/2004 7:15 Comments || Top||

#7  The Army always knows where everything it has is because of its meticulous record keeping systems. This particularly true in combat zones where all front line troops are required to provide daily counts of all personal inventory items and cycle counts of company, batallion, regimental, divisional, corps, army and army group inventories.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/25/2004 8:20 Comments || Top||

#8  I read that the Iraqi pre-OIF ammo inventory was between 1/3 to 1/2 of the entire US inventory. Just think what it was in 1990 before 1/2 of the Iraqi army was destroyed. I don't remember if the 2003 figure was over or under 1 million tons, but think of the stockpiles the US has to fight 2 major wars (including cold war stockpiles) and take 1/3 of that. The figure I read was that it was more than the US military used in 30 years. Some of the Iraqi arms dumps were 20 sqaure miles in size. But whatever the figure, we will be finding and destroying ammo/explosives for years in Iraq.
Posted by: ed || 10/25/2004 9:01 Comments || Top||

#9  ed..What I read at the time of the invasion,there was an estimated 600,000 tons scattered in as many as 130 ammo dumps,and some,as you say,20 square miles in size.So lets see here,380 tons is.......gone ? Heh.
Posted by: crazyhorse || 10/25/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||

#10  It looks like the timeframe for this 'looting' has been since the invasion. The NYT makes it sound like it was taken last weekend. I find the statement that the ammo is still being routinely 'looted' unbelevable.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/25/2004 10:23 Comments || Top||

#11  Qaqaa.....that's a new one.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/25/2004 10:44 Comments || Top||

#12  The four front-page above-the-fold headlines in the print edition of the NYT are:

Left: Gore and Kerry Unite in Search for Black Votes

Left center: Administration Officials Split Over Stalled Military Tribunals (sub-heading: A Policy Unravels)

Right Center: Ambush Kills 50 Iraq Soldiers Execution Style (accompanied by gory photo of the bodies of these brave men)

Right: Huge Cache of Explosives Vanished from Site in Iraq (sub-heading: U.S. Was Warned to Safeguard Material Amid Looting After the Invasion)

And the capper is that on the Op-Ed page Bob Herbert rhetorically asks "How does a president win re-election when all the news the voters are seeing is bad?"
Posted by: Matt || 10/25/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||

#13  It's not clear to me that anyone has established that the disappearance occurred after the invasion. And I can't picture Saddam worried about IAEA seals. And I can't imagine that he would leave all those goodies in one spot for the taking or destroying. We obviously dropped a few bombs and ascertained that the goodies were gone -- otherwise we'd have bombed extensively. It's 40 truckloads minimum, and my bet is that they're buried not too far away. It was too much risk to cart it off to Syria.
Posted by: Tom || 10/25/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#14  This is all Israeli propaganda, the Joooos took it.

Seriously, my theory is that the U.S left some explosives and weapons there, as BAIT. I bet your bottom dollar that the U.S has surveillance on who took the weapons(RDX, HMX, MC Hammer, DMX, Tu Pac, 50 Cent). From my POV, most of the terrs involved in the theft had a meeting with our friends JDAM and Hellfire, when they reached a certain distance down the road. There are enjoying raisins about right now.
Quite possibly, some terrs were "allowed" to steal, so the U.S. can trace them back to their hideouts. Hence the recent targeted bombings at hideouts Fallujaaaah & other places. NYT sez-"picked over by looters as recently as Sunday"
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 10/25/2004 11:49 Comments || Top||

#15  Dan Darling: How the hell do you "loot" 380 tons?

An 18-wheeler can carry about 30 tons. 380 tons is about 13 truckloads worth of stuff. I assume Saddam has at least 13 18-wheelers' worth of trucking capacity at his disposal.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/25/2004 12:39 Comments || Top||

#16  This is what you get (even in a supposedly mainstream well written paper) when you personally (the journalist)hasn't got a f**king clue as to what you are writing about. They have taking this IAEA report at face value without sitting down with ordinance and intelligence experts and dissected the information for what it means and how it was carried out. But noooooooo not our venerable gray lady that is so damn anti-Bush and anti-American that it can't even see the partisanship in their front page.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/25/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#17  ZF I advise you to try and dodge the scales in Florida. :)
Posted by: Shipman || 10/25/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#18  Did anyone notice how Kerry was running with this right from the start. Do you think the NYT 'story' was co-odinated with the Kerry office?

Me to....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/25/2004 13:50 Comments || Top||

#19  Ship - thinking about your advice to ZF, and the image of the Highway Patrol guy in the mirrored specs (ala Cool Hand Luke chain-gang guard) came to mind --- then it hit me! If they're called Chippies in Laficornia, are they called Flippies in Diflora?

At the peril of your life, perhaps?

;->
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#20  Since El Baradei is doing such a great job of finding conventional weapons in Iraq instead of Nukes in Iran, perhaps it should be renamed the International Conventional Energy Agency.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/25/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||

#21  CF -- have you seen an anti-Bush story that HASN'T been coordinated with the Donks?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/25/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||

#22  Like any other NYT story, ya got to read the fine print: The Qaqaa stockpile went unmonitored from late 1998, when United Nations inspectors left Iraq, to late 2002, when they came back. Upon their return, the inspectors discovered that about 35 tons of HMX were missing. The Iraqis said they had used the explosive mainly in civilian programs.
The remaining stockpile was no secret. Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the arms agency, frequently talked about it publicly as he investigated - in late 2002 and early 2003 - the Bush administration's claims that Iraq was secretly renewing its pursuit of nuclear arms. He ordered his weapons inspectors to conduct an inventory, and publicly reported their findings to the Security Council on Jan. 9, 2003. During the following weeks, the I.A.E.A. repeatedly drew public attention to the explosives. In New York on Feb. 14, nine days after Secretary of State Colin L. Powell presented his arms case to the Security Council, Dr. ElBaradei reported that the agency had found no sign of new atom endeavors but "has continued to investigate the relocation and consumption of the high explosive HMX."A European diplomat reported that Jacques Baute, head of the arms agency's Iraq nuclear inspection team, warned officials at the United States mission in Vienna about the danger of the nuclear sites and materials once under I.A.E.A. supervision, including Al Qaqaa.
But apparently, little was done. A senior Bush administration official said that during the initial race to Baghdad, American forces "went through the bunkers, but saw no materials bearing the I.A.E.A. seal." It is unclear whether troops ever returned.
By late 2003, diplomats said, arms agency experts had obtained commercial satellite photos of Al Qaqaa showing that two of roughly 10 bunkers that contained HMX appeared to have been leveled by titanic blasts, apparently during the war. They presumed some of the HMX had exploded, but that is unclear. Other HMX bunkers were untouched. Some were damaged but not devastated. I.A.E.A. experts say they assume that just before the invasion the Iraqis followed their standard practice of moving crucial explosives out of buildings, so they would not be tempting targets. If so, the experts say, the Iraqi must have broken seals from the arms agency on bunker doors and moved most of the HMX to nearby fields, where it would have been lightly camouflaged - and ripe for looting.


So, between 1998 and 2002, 35 tons went bye-bye - Allah knows where, two of the bunkers got blown up during the war, and SOP for the Iraqis was to move the explosives before the shooting started.
Yet somehow, it's our fault?
Posted by: Steve || 10/25/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#23  .com The FHP is called by those who have reason to worry.... roadmen/man as in...

Oh Shit! It's a Road Man!

I have a cousin (a cop) who saw a near riot broken up in St. Petersburg by the timely arrival of one FHP Trooper who drove into the crowd and came out with shotgun and the Proper Cop Attitude.

Watch Out! It A Road Man!
Posted by: Shipman || 10/25/2004 15:11 Comments || Top||

#24  Cool! Road Men (lol - Road Warriors) = Florida Rangers. Melike Law & Order, heh.
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#25  Here is the letter sent from an Iraqi Official telling of the missing stockpile.

Notice the date 10/10/20&%?
Posted by: Wholuling Snuth8432 || 10/25/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||

#26  Oops
Posted by: Wholuling Snuth8432 || 10/25/2004 17:08 Comments || Top||

#27  Wesley Clark was just on with John Gibson trying to spin this Gibson beat him with the "facts"
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/25/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#28  And NBC says their embeds say only conventional weapons there, via KerrySpot:

NBC BLOWS A HOLE IN THE KERRY ATTACK ABOUT THE EXPLOSIVES

Jim Miklaszewski of NBC News pretty much dismantled the New York Times attack on behalf of Kerry today.

NBC News: Miklaszewski: “April 10, 2003, only three weeks into the war, NBC News was embedded with troops from the Army's 101st Airborne as they temporarily take over the Al Qakaa weapons installation south of Baghdad. But these troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing. The U.S. troops did find large stockpiles of more conventional weapons, but no HMX or RDX, so powerful less than a pound brought down Pan Am 103 in 1988, and can be used to trigger a nuclear weapon. In a letter this month, the Iraqi interim government told the International Atomic Energy Agency the high explosives were lost to theft and looting due to lack of security. Critics claim there were simply not enough U.S. troops to guard hundreds of weapons stockpiles, weapons now being used by insurgents and terrorists to wage a guerrilla war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 10/25/04)
Posted by: anonymous2u || 10/25/2004 23:34 Comments || Top||

#29  yep, anon 2U - good catch - I posted it separately
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 23:44 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Met with the Security Council, When??
Security Council members deny meeting Kerry

By Joel Mowbray
SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES

U.N. ambassadors from several nations are disputing assertions by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry that he met for hours with all members of the U.N. Security Council just a week before voting in October 2002 to authorize the use of force in Iraq. An investigation by The Washington Times reveals that while the candidate did talk for an unspecified period to at least a few members of the panel, no such meeting, as described by Mr. Kerry on a number of occasions over the past year, ever occurred.
Just like those foreign leaders in the resturants...
"What kind of sauce do you want with those McNuggets, Mr. Chirac?"

At the second presidential debate earlier this month, Mr. Kerry said he was more attuned to international concerns on Iraq than President Bush, citing his meeting with the entire Security Council. "This president hasn't listened. I went to meet with the members of the Security Council in the week before we voted. I went to New York. I talked to all of them, to find out how serious they were about really holding Saddam Hussein accountable," Mr. Kerry said of the Iraqi dictator. Speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York in December 2003, Mr. Kerry explained that he understood the "real readiness" of the United Nations to "take this seriously" because he met "with the entire Security Council, and we spent a couple of hours talking about what they saw as the path to a united front in order to be able to deal with Saddam Hussein."
Is a path and a plan the same thing?
But of the five ambassadors on the Security Council in 2002 who were reached directly for comment, four said they had never met Mr. Kerry. The four also said that no one who worked for their countries' U.N. missions had met with Mr. Kerry either. The former ambassadors who said on the record they had never met Mr. Kerry included the representatives of Mexico, Colombia and Bulgaria. The ambassador of a fourth country gave a similar account on the condition that his country not be identified.
To embarassed to admit to not meeting with the dodo. I guess this person wants to keep the possibility of an invite to a state dinner, if GOD FORBID, Kerry wins...
Ambassador Andres Franco, the permanent deputy representative from Colombia during its Security Council membership from 2001 to 2002, said, "I never heard of anything." Although Mr. Franco was quick to note that Mr. Kerry could have met some members of the panel, he also said that "everything can be heard in the corridors." Adolfo Aguilar Zinser, Mexico's then-ambassador to the United Nations, said: "There was no meeting with John Kerry before Resolution 1441, or at least not in my memory." All had vivid recollections of the time frame when Mr. Kerry traveled to New York, as it was shortly before the Nov. 7, 2002, enactment of Resolution 1441, which said Iraq was in "material breach" of earlier disarmament resolutions and warned Baghdad of "serious consequences as a result of its continued violations." Stefan Tafrov, Bulgaria's ambassador at the time, said he remembers the period well because it "was a very contentious time."
Bulgaria has turned into a real no BS country. Very courageous...
After conversations with ambassadors from five members of the Security Council in 2002 and calls to all the missions of the countries then on the panel, The Times was only able to confirm directly that Mr. Kerry had met with representatives of France, Singapore and Cameroon.
FRED! Where's that surprise meter?
In addition, second-hand accounts have Mr. Kerry meeting with representatives of Britain.
Second-hand accounts? Apparently the Blair family has a similar situation as the Schwarzenegger family... Mrs. Blair does not like "W"...
When reached for comment last week, an official with the Kerry campaign stood by the candidate's previous claims that he had met with the entire Security Council. But after being told late yesterday of the results of The Times investigation, the Kerry campaign issued a statement that read in part, "It was a closed meeting and a private discussion."
Yup. Stands by Christmas in Cambodia. Stands by being at the Iraq surrender in 1991. Stands by the Boston Marathon run....
A Kerry aide refused to identify who participated in the meeting. The statement did not repeat Mr. Kerry's claims of a lengthy meeting with the entire 15-member Security Council, instead saying the candidate "met with a group of representatives of countries sitting on the Security Council." Asked whether the international body had any records of Mr. Kerry sitting down with the whole council, a U.N. spokesman said that "our office does not have any record of this meeting."
Probably because it didn't happen.
A U.S. official with intimate knowledge of the Security Council's actions in fall of 2002 said that he was not aware of any meeting Mr. Kerry had with members of the panel. An official at the U.S. mission to the United Nations remarked: "We were as surprised as anyone when Kerry started talking about a meeting with the Security Council." Jean-David Levitte, then France's chief U.N. representative and now his country's ambassador to the United States, said through a spokeswoman that Mr. Kerry did not have a single group meeting as the senator has described, but rather several one-on-one or small-group encounters. He added that Mr. Kerry did not meet with every member of the Security Council, only "some" of them. Mr. Levitte could only name himself and Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock of Britain as the Security Council members with whom Mr. Kerry had met.
Even the Frogs saying this is partly untrue? Now what?
One diplomat who met with Mr. Kerry in 2002 said on the condition of anonymity that the candidate talked to "a few" ambassadors on the Security Council. The revelation that Mr. Kerry never met with the entire U.N. Security Council could be problematic for the Massachusetts senator, as it clashes with one of his central foreign-policy campaign themes — honesty.
Duh!
At a New Mexico rally last month, Mr. Kerry said Mr. Bush will "do anything he can to cover up the truth." At what campaign aides billed as a major foreign-policy address, Mr. Kerry said at New York University last month that "the first and most fundamental mistake was the president's failure to tell the truth to the American people." In recent months, Mr. Kerry has faced numerous charges of dishonesty from Vietnam veterans over his war record, and his campaign has backtracked before from previous statements about Mr. Kerry's foreign diplomacy. For example, in March, Mr. Kerry told reporters in Florida that he'd met with foreign leaders who privately endorsed him. "I've met with foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly," he said. "But, boy, they look at you and say: 'You've got to win this. You've got to beat this guy. We need a new policy.' "
"Welcome to Manhattan Pizza Hut, Mr. Schroeder, would you and Mr. Kerry like Thick or thin crust?"
But the senator refused to document his claim and a review by The Times showed that Mr. Kerry had made no official foreign trips since the start of 2002, according to Senate records and his own published schedules. An extensive review of Mr. Kerry's domestic travel schedule revealed only one opportunity for him to have met foreign leaders here. After a week of bad press, Kerry foreign-policy adviser Rand Beers said the candidate "does not seek, and will not accept, any such endorsements." The Democrat has also made his own veracity a centerpiece of his campaign, calling truthfulness "the fundamental test of leadership." Mr. Kerry closed the final debate by recounting what his mother told him from her hospital bed, "Remember: integrity, integrity, integrity."
Talk big, do what you want, don't get caught...
In an interview published in the new issue of Rolling Stone magazine, Mr. Kerry was asked what he would want people to remember about his presidency. He responded, "That it always told the truth to the American people."
Snicker... Don't you just love the scalpel wielders at the WASHINGTON TIMES?
Posted by: BigEd || 10/25/2004 12:02:06 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


International-UN-NGOs
KOFI THE CONTEMPTIBLE
When it comes to people who lack the moral standing to lecture America on the war in Iraq — or anything — U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan surely heads the list. But does that stop him from offering his self-serving observations? Of course not.

In a direct slap to President Bush, Annan last week declared that "I cannot say the world is safer today . . . when you see what is going on in Iraq." In an interview on British TV, he also cited "the violence around us" and "the terrorist attacks around the world."

OK. We think he's wrong, but maybe it's a judgment call. So how sound is Annan's judgment? Well, he also pronounced it "inconceivable" that Saddam Hussein's multimillion-dollar payoffs under the U.N.'s hopelessly corrupt Oil-for-Food program could have eased international sanctions against Iraq. "I don't think the Russian or the French or the Chinese government[s] would allow [themselves] to be bought," he said. After all, "these are very serious and important governments. You are not dealing with banana republics."
"I dun' think that word means what you think it means!"
Who is he kidding? Frankly, if there were any justice in the world, Annan's son would be under indictment right now: Kojo Annan served as a "consultant" to a Swiss-based firm that was given a $5 million contract to inspect shipments of aid to Iraq. As for the secretary-general himself, if the United Nations was run with even a modicum of integrity, he'd be out on his ear for having supervised what is shaping up to be the most massive case of international corruption in recent memory. (Here's chutzpah for you: Annan's now complaining that all the news reports about the Oil-for-Food scandal have hurt the United Nations. Not the scandal itself, mind you — just the reporting.)

Before he vouches too publicly for the honesty of his member states, Annan should give a close read to the recently released Duelfer report — and the devastating picture it presents of the hopelessly shady operation under which Saddam was moving heaven and earth to get those sanctions lifted. Indeed, says the report, the Butcher of Baghdad was on the verge of success: Sanctions were "in a shambles" and on the verge of being lifted entirely, whereupon Saddam planned to resume his previously abandoned WMD-development programs. That scheme — with the connivance of such "serious and important governments" — would have been realized, had not President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair taken action. Today, Saddam sits in a prison cell and not on a Baghdad throne. And the world is — yes — a safer place. No thanks to Kofi Annan.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/25/2004 1:58:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bill Clinton wont allow corruption when he is incharge of the U.N. in '06.
Posted by: Johnnie Bartlette || 10/25/2004 12:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Lol! Do you lead with your chin all the time, JB? :-)
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#3 
if there were any justice in the world, Annan’s son would be under indictment right now: Kojo Annan served as a "consultant" to a Swiss-based firm that was given a $5 million contract to inspect shipments of aid to Iraq

Hey, if anyone has found any more evidence against Kojo Annan, please post it as a comment to this thread. The evidence is mounting in bits and pieces, slowly but surely. Here we have an additional detail, possibly very significant, that the Swiss firm's contract was worth $5 million dollars.

If we can get just a few more clues, then maybe this case against Kojo (and Kofi!) Annan will break wide open and there really will be an indictment. Come on, Rantburgers, please post some more evidence against Kojo. It's out there! Find it and bring it and and post it here!!!
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Posted by: Senator Carl Levin || 10/25/2004 22:32 Comments || Top||

#4  I'll defer to Mike S. He's sitting on the blockbuster stuff
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 22:50 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Weapons Disappeared Before Troops Arrived
Drudge". As Britney Spears would say "Oops, we did it again".

Posted by: Ol_Dirty_American || 10/25/2004 11:14:32 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Southeast Asia
Thailand protest turns violent
Protestors in Thailand's troubled south have clashed with police, in one of the most serious incidents in months. Up to three people were reported killed when police moved against protesters who had surrounded a police station. Hundreds of people had gathered to protest against the detention of six Muslim men in Narathiwat province. Thai television showed footage of soldiers firing M-16 automatic rifles. Police said the protesters also used weapons, and one witness told Reuters news agency that pistol shots came from the crowd. At least 20 people were reported to be wounded in the fracas, which lasted several hours and reportedly led to the arrest of more than 200 people.

The protesters had gathered at the district police station in Takbai, in Narathiwat province. But Sommai Puthakul, the chief of the station, told the Associated Press that he did not know whey they had chosen there because the detainees were being held in the provincial capital and not in Takbai. The Thai Prime Minister, Thaksin Shinawatra, has flown to the south for an emergency visit. "I want to tell the Thai Muslims... that I know about everything that goes on in the south, and I will absolutely not allow the authorities to harass the public," he told reporters. "But when the authorities set up laws, they have to be respected," he said. Authorities have imposed a 1000-1800 curfew on the region, according to Reuters news agency.
Posted by: Steve || 10/25/2004 9:59:31 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  These mysterious "protestors" aren't properly identified as Muslim assholes who don't like other Muslim assholes being arrested for their "militancy"... all the way down until the Thai PM is finally quoted.

Assuming that this story needs to be told, it certainly sounds like they should've LED with Thaksin's comments - and filled in behind that, rather than the backassward way this hit piece unfolds.

Seems to me the Rule of Law would be something that civilized people would applaud and take as the logical starting point of a dispute. But that's just me. Beeb and Rooters must know better, I guess, cuz they're so important and believable and everything.
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 10:39 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
'Lebanon must move to thwart UN resolution'
Lebanon's prime minister-designate Omar Karameh must strengthen relations with Damascus and deal with a UN resolution calling for Syrian troops to withdraw from the country, Syrian state radio said Sunday. The incoming government "should first consolidate fraternal relations, cooperation and coordination between Syria and Lebanon," Radio Damascus said in its daily editorial. The comments come after pro-Damascus Karameh was asked on Thursday to form a government following the resignation of his arch-foe Rafiq Hariri, a move which has drawn international criticism for Damascus's perceived role in the affair.

Karameh's yet-to-be-formed government's next task would be to deal with a UN Security Council resolution calling on Syria to stop perceived meddling in its smaller neighbour's political affairs and to withdraw its estimated 15,000 troops from Lebanon, the station said. "Dealing with Resolution 1559, which threatens the security and independence of Lebanon, would then be necessary and at the top of the government's list of priorities ... It is clear that Israel is behind the undeclared objectives of this international resolution." Following his designation, Karameh declared that his main task would be to resist external pressures being exerted on Lebanon and Syria and to prepare elections set for early next year. "The success of the new Lebanese government led by Mr. Karameh will be that sovereignty, independence and Lebanese national unity," the station continued.
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 11:08:27 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  With that sterling declaration of chickenhood, Lebanon replaces Manchuko as history's most subservient puppet "state"...
Posted by: borgboy || 10/25/2004 12:27 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
British Agents Engineered Capture Of Care International's Margaret Hassan
From Jihad Unspun
JUS [Jihad Unspun] has learned from reliable sources close to the Mujahideen in Iraq that the kidnapping of Margaret Hassan is a operation concocted by British agents inside the country in conjunction with Margaret's husband, in an effort to divert attention away from the American request for British troop deployment into the volatile area of Latifiyah — a move that has struck a raw nerve with the British public. No group has claimed responsibility for Hassan capture. The 59 year old director of CARE international in Iraq was taken captive on her way to work on October 19, 2004 in a picture perfect operation. A videotape issued Oct. 22 and aired by Al-Jazeera showed her pleading for Britain to withdraw troops from Iraq.

What was curious from the beginning was the amount of details that husband Tahseen Ali Hassan was telling reporters about his wife's capture just a few short hours after the incident and while authorities where still unclear what had taken place. To have obtained in-depth details so quickly of the events that actually took place raised suspicions about who was behind Hassan's capture early on.

Sunni clerics who have been heading up the resistance in Fallujah has said previously that they were not responsible Hassan's kidnapping and were calling for her release. Of the 150 foreigners captured by Mujahideen, few have been women with most being released and none have been killed, unlike the males who have been swiftly executed. Women are enjoined with special privileges in Islam and the Mujahideen are required to protect them under Shariah laws of Islam. This was also a tell tale sign from the start. With Tony Blair facing increased pressure from the public, focusing Britain's attention on the Hassan capture is a perfect political strategy to subdue the public's concern over the high risk of the Latifiyah deployment.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 10/25/2004 11:31:11 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  gee, thks Mikey Sylwester. I'll make sure double-wipe after reading your latest droppings
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 23:50 Comments || Top||

#2  just curious WTF your motivation might've been to spread the latest in JU (shit) might've been? This added ABSOLUTELY nothing to the RB (real world) knowledge base. Are you actively employed by the UN/Arab League? Or just a felcher at their loins?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 23:53 Comments || Top||

#3  I was about to say you can't make this stuff up but considering the source I am sure they did.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/26/2004 1:38 Comments || Top||


OOPS! NBC doesn't follow pro-Kerry line on Iraqi HMX
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON OCT 25 2004 22:45:05 ET XXXXX

NBCNEWS: HUGE CACHE OF EXPLOSIVES VANISHED FROM SITE IN IRAQ -- AT LEAST 18 MONTHS AGO -- BEFORE TROOPS ARRIVED

The NYTIMES urgently reported on Monday how the Iraqi interim government has warned the United States and international nuclear inspectors that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives are now missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations.

Jumping on the TIMES exclusive, Dem presidential candidate John Kerry blasted the Bush administration for its failure to "guard those stockpiles."

"This is one of the great blunders of Iraq, one of the great blunders of this administration," Kerry said.

In an election week rush:

**ABCNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 4 Times
**CBSNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 7 Times
**MSNBC Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 37 Times
**CNN Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 50 Times

But tonight, NBCNEWS reported, once: The 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives were already missing back in April 10, 2003 -- when U.S. troops arrived at the installation south of Baghdad!

An NBCNEWS crew embedded with troops moved in to secure the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility on April 10, 2003, one day after the liberation of Iraq.

According to NBCNEWS, the HMX and RDX explosives were already missing when the American troops arrived.

It is not clear why the NYTIMES failed to report the cache had been missing for 18 months -- and was reportedly missing before troops even arrived.

The TIMES left the impression the weapons site had been looted since Iraq has been under US control.

[In a fresh Page One story set for Tuesday on the matter, the TIMES once again omits any reference to troops not finding any explosives at the site when they arrived in April of 2003. Attempts to reach managing editor Jill Abramson late Monday were unsuccessful.]

"The U.S. Army was at the sight one day after the liberation and the weapons were already gone," a top Republican blasted from Washington late Monday.

The International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers.

Dem vp hopeful John Edwards blasted Bush for not securing the explosives: "It is reckless and irresponsible to fail to protect and safeguard one of the largest weapons sites in the country. And by either ignoring these mistakes or being clueless about them, George Bush has failed. He has failed as our commander in chief; he has failed as president."

A senior Bush official e-mailed DRUDGE late Monday: "Let me get this straight, are Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards now saying we did not go into Iraq soon enough? We should have invaded and liberated Iraq sooner?"

Top Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart fired back: "In a shameless attempt to cover up its failure to secure 380 tons of highly explosive material in Iraq, the White House is desperately flailing in an effort to escape blame. Instead of distorting John Kerry's words, the Bush campaign is now falsely and deliberately twisting the reports of journalists. It is the latest pathetic excuse from an administration that never admits a mistake, no matter how disastrous."

Developing...
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 11:26:00 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
It is not clear why the NYTIMES failed to report the cache had been missing for 18 months -- and was reportedly missing before troops even arrived.
It's clear, all right.

Crystal clear.

The MSM don't even care anymore that people know they're lying. What a bunch of useless, DemocRat-ass-kissing wankers.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/25/2004 23:46 Comments || Top||

#2  2 for 2 tonight, Barbara
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 23:48 Comments || Top||

#3  if the republicans pulled this crap in 1944 the whole lot of them would have been brought up on charges of treason.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/25/2004 23:51 Comments || Top||


Queen Noor Appeals to Muslim Moderates
Queen Noor of Jordan is urging Muslim moderates to speak out against the "ranting" of extremists who use Islam to justify beheadings and suicide bombings against the United States and Westerners. The American-born widow of King Hussein, who perhaps more than any other prominent figure represents a fusion of the United States and the Arab world, also told The Associated Press in an interview that Washington should tone down its militaristic approach to the Middle East. Noor denounced the twisting of Islam preached by extremists, who are waging what they say is a holy war against the West. "What I believe are the vast majority of moderate Muslim clerics ... do not at all subscribe to the distorted ranting of these militant extremist groups and abhor the form that their zealotry has taken in terms of beheadings and suicide bombings and the killings of innocents, because these are forbidden in Islam," the queen said Sunday in her hotel suite in Bogota, where she is campaigning against land mines.
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 8:43:03 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The queen appeals to Muslim moderates. Shouldn't take long.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 10/25/2004 20:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Say it in Jordan in Arabic. Then we can talk.
Posted by: ed || 10/25/2004 20:52 Comments || Top||

#3  I was disinvited from a reception for this self-same Queen Noor (formerly Lisa Halaby) a few years ago after I let it be known that I would address her as "ma'am" rather than as "your majesty" if the opportunity arose.
Our printed instructions had specified the latter form, even though "ma'am" is perfectly acceptable for the honest-to-god Queen of England in casual conversation.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 10/25/2004 21:05 Comments || Top||

#4  I've never met Her Majesty, the honest-to-god Queen of England, but I did meet Crown Prince Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, a very friendly and likable chap who is not above a joke at his own expense. He is a pilot and sometimes flies for KLM.
One time a lady came up to him after a flight. Apparently assuming that he was British, she asked in English, "Sir, did you know that you are the very image of our Dutch Crown Prince?"
He responded, "You flatter me ma'am, but I am sure that a prince would be more handsome."
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 10/25/2004 21:20 Comments || Top||

#5  ..also told The Associated Press in an interview that Washington should tone down its militaristic approach to the Middle East.

This may happen the day that large numbers of people over there knock off their loudmouthed rhetoric about killing "infidels" (read: us) and purge from their systems their seeming ingrained propensity to blame others for their own self-inflicted problems. Any seeming "militaristic" approach to the Middle East has come about for a reason; it didn't materialize out of thin air.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/25/2004 22:28 Comments || Top||

#6  I'd hit it..... couple drinks, Lisa?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 22:31 Comments || Top||

#7  One and only one question:

Why wasn't this statement issued three years ago?

End of story.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/25/2004 23:16 Comments || Top||

#8  uncomfortable clash of civilizations levels of moral equivalence?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 23:21 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Darfur Peace Talks Seek to Break Deadlock
Several years would be my guess...
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 8:41:20 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Zarqawi pledge to Binny seen as bid for power
By reinventing himself as Osama bin Laden's top man in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is seeking to humiliate President Bush, exploit al Qaeda's militant "brand" and win more recruits for the Iraqi insurgency. In a change of tack this month, he first declared allegiance to bin Laden and then, in an Internet statement Saturday, renamed his movement as the Iraqi arm of al Qaeda. Security analysts said that while ostensibly pledging subservience and submitting his group to a "takeover," Zarqawi was taking on the mantle of al Qaeda's most active commander in order to boost his profile and rally support.
And since he hasn't seen Binny lately either, it positions him as heir apparent. (yes, yes, I know.."He's not a saudi, can't be in charge unless you're one of the master race!" As I've said before, maybe he has other ideas.)
Singapore-based analyst Rohan Gunaratna said the Jordanian militant was seeking to exert authority over al Qaeda cells whose links with bin Laden had been severed since the United States launched its "war on terror." "He wants to be the de facto operational leader of al Qaeda. That is why he pledged allegiance to Osama, and now he wants to take control of the al Qaeda cells that are located worldwide," said Gunaratna, author of "Inside al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror."
Great mind's think alike
Iraqi analyst Mustafa Alani at the Gulf Research Center in Dubai said that while placing himself under bin Laden's authority, Zarqawi would still enjoy effective autonomy. "Al Qaeda as a headquarters and a nerve system is no longer functioning, so he knows bin Laden will not be able to boss him around," Alani said.
Perhaps he suspects Binny ain't functioning either?
He said that by turning his own campaign into part of al Qaeda's struggle, Zarqawi could hope to recruit more bin Laden supporters from outside Iraq to join the insurgency. These could include militants from countries like Saudi Arabia where the opportunities for al Qaeda attacks appear to have diminished recently as the authorities have clamped down.
Well, clamped down on domestic attacks. We've suspected they are trying to go back to export mode.
"There are a lot of mujahideen who are hesitating to join the fight in Iraq -- they don't know whether it's part of al Qaeda or not. Now they have a new base in Iraq ... I think this will encourage more people to join," Alani said. But many security analysts questioned such assertions and saw Zarqawi until now as an independent actor, which is why they see his declared shift of allegiance as significant. Alani said Saturday's Web statement, 10 days before the U.S. presidential election and several months before planned elections in Iraq, was partly designed to influence American public opinion. Zarqawi "hopes to influence the American election and to show that Mr. Bush was a failure -- a failure in Iraq, a failure in fighting al Qaeda and a failure in preventing al Qaeda from establishing in Iraq," he said. David Claridge, managing director of Janusian Security Risk Management which has clients in Iraq, said the intended message was that the United States was fighting the same enemy on all fronts, and losing. "It's about trying, in the public's eye, to give the impression that al Qaeda is building deep roots in Iraq," he said. "The more they can present to the wider world the message that the U.S. is fighting al Qaeda and it's losing, the more political impact that has."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/25/2004 6:40:23 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More or less put the lie to Saddam never has any connection to Iraq and AQ never had any connection to Iraq. Zarqawi has been in and out Iraq since well before the war using is as a base.


I certainly dispute the "he's winning". The Jihadi KIA numbers are huge. We are killing them at a fair clip and Zarqawi's days are certainly numbered. They can't breed and grow them fast enough at some point. That point may be way in the future but with Bush in for 4 more years we will see it. Zarqawi doesn't have a cave to hide in. The only place he is welcome is Iran. I imagine he has a big bruise in the center of his chest from all the folk that have been pushing him off with a 10 foot pole. Word is out hanging with Zarqawi is bad for your life expectancy. The Iraqis are leting him try and survive on his own. The bring back Saddam crowd his only natural Iraqi allies just isn't a large enough segment of the population to matter in the end. You can run but you will only die tired.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/25/2004 20:23 Comments || Top||

#2  "Perhaps he suspects Binny ain't functioning either?"
Clear signal there,that's for sure.If anyone would know,he would.
Posted by: crazyhorse || 10/25/2004 21:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
New Toys! Israeli companies tout security gear
You know you want to go...but are you special enough to get in?

Chemical-detecting cameras and imaging gear that instantly can map out an area of nuclear contamination will be among the goods offered at an extraordinary trade conference in Washington this week.

Sixty top Israeli security-related companies will be displaying their latest technology for American companies and agencies responsible for patrolling U.S. borders and protecting against terrorist threats. Some of the most exciting equipment is suitable for customs, border patrol, and detection, said Rob Hartwell of the American Business Development Group (ABDG), which helped organize the Oct. 28-29 conference for invited guests only.

"The Israelis excel at combining photo optics, sensing devices, cameras and also water-acoustical instruments, capable of detecting any intrusion and identifying whether it is human or animal," Mr. Hartwell said.

The conference also will help Israeli firms connect with like-minded American companies interested in satellite tracking, security systems, firearms, ammunition, maritime security, armor and bulletproof glass. The United States and Israel already cooperate in the military arena, and several skilled Israelis have clearances to work in the U.S. military sector. This week's symposium is designed to expand that cooperation into the homeland-security arena.

Israel's government must approve the transfer of any sensitive technology, and several companies will not disclose their most advanced technologies. But many companies are ready to show off equipment that is more advanced or more competitive than anything made in the United States. One company has developed hyper-spectral imaging based on satellite technology that can instantly map out an area contaminated by weapons of mass destruction and determine the best evacuation routes, Mr. Hartwell said. Another offer is for a product already being used "in a major conflict" — a vehicle-borne camera that can see in the dark, sense heat or movement, and sniff out a number of chemical and biological compounds.

"A lot of different industries in Israel have transferred their knowledge to nonmilitary applications," said Ronin Zahavy, director of industry affairs for the Israeli Export and International Cooperation Institute.

More than 200 Israeli companies were evaluated over the last six months by conference organizers. Some offers were rejected, such as a company whose major concept was a lounge chair with a built-in lie detector. ABDG, a consulting group, traveled to Israel with more than 20 experts, including former military members, program managers, potential clients and Capitol Hill defense staff, to vet the companies invited to the program.

There will be some 60 presentations in three sessions during the two-day conference, with the aim of finding business partners and establishing joint ventures to better approach the American market. "We are arranging face-to-face business-opportunity meetings with U.S. companies and essentially trying to take the cream of the crop of Israeli technology and putting them in front of top U.S. companies," Mr. Hartwell said.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/25/2004 11:59:42 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Some offers were rejected, such as a company whose major concept was a lounge chair with a built-in lie detector."

What wife wouldn't want one of these?
Posted by: Penguin || 10/25/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Necessity is Israel's mom, methinks.

This is only ever so slightly soured by the fact that some of these technologies were handed to Israel on a platter a couple of decades ago so they could survive -- researched, developed and delivered via my tax dollars. I appreciate the fact that they improved upon them, mixed them with other technologies, repackaged them for other uses, etc. I just want some reasonable discounting, I guess - those are my tax dollars still flowing out to defend them and keep them in clover... Fair's fair, boyz.
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#3  well, .com, consider this: The US, anually, pumps about as much into Egypt as it does Israel. What has Egypt developed?
Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/25/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||

#4  PD - Different poop going on there. That's a blackhole and utter waste, some might say, heh.

Hey, all I want is a phreakin' discount. I'm ready to head over and do some varmint plinkin' when they mess with the fence, it's not like I'm anti-Israel or anything like it - as you know, lol!

Hell, okay. I want a Death Ray generator of my own. You've gone and made me admit it. So there. Happy?

Lol! ;-)
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Gaza terror groups thought to have anti-aircraft missiles
Palestinian terror organizations in the Gaza Strip my have anti-aircraft missiles in their possession, possibly Strela (SA-7) missiles, the security establishment warned yesterday. For some years the Palestinians have tried to smuggle such missiles from Egypt through tunnels. However, until now no reliable intelligence confirmed the existence of the missiles. A senior military official told Haaretz yesterday that Israel's working premise is now that such missiles do exist in Gaza and the air force is responding accordingly. Combat helicopters are flying with minimum exposure to danger, as was the practice in southern Lebanon. Helicopters carrying senior officers have stopped landing inside Gaza, but rather on landing pads outside the Strip. The downing of an Israeli plane or helicopter is an important objective for the Palestinians, which the fighting of the past weeks has only increased.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/25/2004 2:04:46 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The downing of an Israeli plane or helicopter by the Paleos will bring upon them a rain of steel death that they cannot imagine. For starters, the Arafish bowl will be vaporized. The Paleos better think this thing through before they REALLY do something stupid.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/25/2004 2:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Alaska, so true. On the other hand if they thought at all the would not self detonate so often.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/25/2004 2:16 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd say something stupid like, that don't have anti-aircraft weapons they have export SA-7s, but I won't.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/25/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#4  The downing of an Israeli plane or helicopter is an important objective for the Palestinians, which the fighting of the past weeks has only increased.

When they say "Israeli plane" does it include civilian aircraft? If these dimwits try to bring down an El Al plane, well....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/25/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#5  the IAF would be "forced" to clear a no-man's land back from the fence equal to the SA-7 range...so sad.....
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 16:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Max. Range 5,500 meters
Min. Range 500 meters
Max. Altitude 4,500 meters
Min. Altitude 18 meters

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-7.htm
Posted by: mojo || 10/25/2004 16:25 Comments || Top||

#7  So if someone shoved it up Yassir's ass and pulled the trigger, it would need enough thrust to propel him how far?

18m or 500m

before it armed and terminated his tracking signal?
Posted by: .com || 10/25/2004 16:28 Comments || Top||


Jordanian group to build fifth minaret on Temple Mount
Jordanian group intends to complete plans for building a fifth minaret on the Temple Mount by the end of the year and begin construction in 2005, said Raef Nijem, deputy chairman of the Committee to Renovate the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, over the weekend.
(Maybe they can destroy more then they have already destroyed)
The committee is an official Jordanian body operating on the Temple Mount with the approval of the Hashemite kingdom as well as Israeli authorities. It mostly deals with renovating the southern wall of the Temple Mount after that section was found to bulge in several spots. "As per the decision of King Abdullah, the minaret will be built, and it will be the fifth one, representing the five basic pillars of Islam," Nijem said Friday. The fifth minaret is slated for the southeast corner of the Temple Mount.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/25/2004 2:01:26 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's an old story about the straw that broke the camel's back, Achmed. You may have heard it...
Posted by: mojo || 10/25/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#2  and it will be the fifth one, representing the five basic pillars of Islam
Is this the : "Lying to Infidels is OK" one? Or the "Killing Joooos and infidel women and children will get you into Allah's good graces" one?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe they'll find the missing imman in the basement.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/25/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#4  And the newest synagogue goes up in Mecca when?
Posted by: borgboy || 10/25/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Right after we finish the cathedral.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 10/25/2004 16:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Wait, isn't this part of the world faced with grinding poverty and poor infrastructure and services? (Blame it on the occupation)

Palestinians suffer wretched housing, healthcare, and educational conditions. The generous donor, Jordan, is not exactly a refuge of prosperity and surplus resources.

What I'm trying to say is: shouldn't the money be spent on areas where it's desperately needed? If the Palestinians could create an economy, they'd be able to afford as many minarets as they want.

This is just a microcosm of the whole Palestinian problem. Their supporters and backers in Europe and the Islamic world have been showering them with relief and donations for decades.

But none of it is meant to actually to improve the lot of the Palestinians. If it did, they would lose a lot of their ability to blame Israel for their misery and the impetus to sustain their state of hatred and conflict would greatly diminish. The warlords and thugs who control all of the major Pali organizations from the PA to Hamas to Hezbollah to IJ would all lose their oligopoly control over the Pali population.

So instead, all the millions in funding that pour in from sympathizers across the globe are cyphoned off to line pockets of the thugs at the top so they can run their little fiefdoms. It gets diverted to pay for weapons, terrorism, propaganda/incitement (i.e., PR and Marketing for further funding), etc.
Posted by: John in Tokyo || 10/25/2004 23:29 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
India sez Pak, Bangla & Chinese spooks support NE terrorism
New Delhi and Washington are finally waking up to the strange phenomenon taking place in India's troubled northeast. An upper-caste Hindu militant secessionist organization of the northeastern state of Assam - the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) - has reportedly taken up formal membership with the Pakistan-based Muttahida (United) Jihad Council (MJC) after years of dallying with the Pakistani military's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the Directorate General of Field Intelligence (DGFI) of Bangladesh. The MJC is an umbrella organization of various outfits engaged in militant operations in the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir. Its most prominent member group is the dreaded Hizbul Mujahideen, headed by Syed Salahuddin. Indicating that the government of India is not only aware of the foreign dimension of the terror-bombings in Assam and Nagaland, but it is also willing to take some concrete action, the normally reticent Indian Defense Minister Pranab Mukherjee put the blame for these terrorist acts squarely on the ISI of Pakistan. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, too, has now voiced his concern over "some insurgent groups" taking "shelter" in Bangladesh. The chief ministers of Assam and Tripura have been demanding that Bangladesh be persuaded to take the kind of robust action against the insurgents based on its territory that Bhutan took last year. Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi has linked the attacks to the ULFA regrouping after being flushed out of Bhutan last year. He said: "The Bhutanese military offensive against ULFA and NDFB [National Democratic Front of Bodoland] inside the kingdom in December last year has not helped us. The rebels appear to have simply relocated their camps."

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'MMA made headway in enforcement of Sharia'
In his annual State of the Province Address, [t]he Muttahida Majlise Amal (MMA) government has made tremendous headway in the enforcement of Shariah and the development of the province, Sirajul Haq, the NWFP senior minister, said. The government has gained wide popularity with the people while its policies on financial discipline and good governance have been acknowledged at international forums, he added.
"Ev'rything's coming up roses."
Addressing public meetings on Sunday at Samarbagh, Mayor and Jandool after the inauguration of a local union council, a water supply scheme, revamping of a girls high school and the construction of a boys higher secondary school, he said that the central government was ignoring NWFP. While special grants and development packages had been announced for other provinces, NWFP had been denied its share in the profit from hydro-electric projects, he explained. He said promises made by the president and the prime minister had not materialised and, that the central media was being malicious with the MMA government. The federal information minister went to the extent of declaring the MMA government a failure, he added.
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'Islam rejects boundaries between Muslim states'
Muslims are one nation as Islam rejects nationalism based on geographical boundaries, said Dr Iftakhar Hussain Waris, patron-in-chief of Tanzeem Hablillah on Sunday. Presiding over a monthly meeting of the non-governmental organisation at Avari Hotel, he criticised the slogan "sub say pehlay Pakistan", saying Muslims were one nation whether they were from Pakistan, Afghanistan or any other country. "They cannot be divided by geographical boundaries," he said.
..."playing into the hands of Jews who want to destroy moral values in Muslim society."
"Isn't that why we travel from country to country, blowing things up?"
Hmmm...I haven't yet seen a passport issued by the ulema of Dar al-Islam.
I think they're letting the Paks issue them all ...
About the objectives of the Tanzeem, he said the organisation would promote love and affection among human beings, fight vulgarity, provide free education to orphans and poor children and free healthcare to the poor just as soon as we've taken care of all those pesky kufrs. He said the Tanzeem had nothing to do with politics and it would try to encourage politicians to take the right path. He said if crime was rising and evil was spreading, "it was all because of our own misdeeds". Mr Waris said the Tanzeem would fight against obscenity and vulgarity as the media was "playing into the hands of Jews who want to destroy moral values in Muslim society." He said Islam couldn't be promoted by speeches or by indulging in sectarianism. "Islam believes in practical steps rather than lip-service," he said. He invited all those to the Tanzeem who wanted to serve humanity. The prominent Tanzeem members who were present on the occasion were Dr Ahsen Waris, vice president, Akhtar Hussain Qadri, vice president, Colonel (r) Iqbal Niazi, general secretary, Raja Hasan Akhtar, Ameen Qadri, Dr Dost Muhammad Khanzada, Malik Hamid and Dr Junaid. The president of the Tanzeem, Khalid Bashir, was also present.
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 10:55:25 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Man! After reading that, I realize that significant parts of the human race have A LOT of evolvin' to do.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/25/2004 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  more friggin' doctors than an ama convention--i guess if you memorize the jew killin' suras and hadiths you become--my son ahktar--the doctor--such a good boy
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 10/25/2004 1:32 Comments || Top||

#3  He said Islam couldn’t be promoted by speeches or by indulging in sectarianism. “Islam believes in practical steps rather than lip-service,” he said.

I see. so dialogue, debate and the free-flow of ideas isn't the way to promote Islam. Instead, he's promoting practical steps (read: censorship, brutality, murder).

. . . playing into the hands of Jews who want to destroy moral values in Muslim society

oops. too late.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/25/2004 9:04 Comments || Top||

#4  What an idiot. No boundaries! Lol, there are Islamic boundaries even within Iraq. And would he like for us to view the Islamic world his way?
Posted by: Tom || 10/25/2004 9:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Ok, let's agree to this. Tomorrow we bomb the hell out of the Fallujah Bank that's funding Zarqawi - located in Riyadh. Oh, and it'll be a full strike by 42 B52s. Just trying to make the world safer for our Marines, guys - anywhere in Iraq is a target area - if we say so. You gonna stop us? Maybe it's time to get into the glass-making business.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/25/2004 12:32 Comments || Top||

#6  I am setting up a non-profit called Boundaries Sans Lawyers. I've retained CinGold to bullet proof it.

Altho Lawyers Sans Coulletes be a purdy good nonprofit too.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/25/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||


US visas for Pakistanis fall 73%
"No visas for you!"
US visas granted to Pakistani citizens dropped by 73 percent between July 2002 and June 2003, according to Syed Asif Alam of the Association of Pakistani Professionals. He told Daily Times on Sunday that those affected by the shortfall included students who were seeking higher education in the United States as well as business representatives interested in strengthening US-Pakistan trade and business ties. He said his figures were based on data released by the State Department's Consular Affairs Bureau.
I dunno why, but I suddenly feel safer...
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 10:37:14 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  An effect resulting from a cause...how very odd!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/25/2004 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  How do any Pakistani students qualify for higher education when all they've done up to now is memorize the Koran? Are there a lucky few who escape that fate?
Posted by: PBMcL || 10/25/2004 1:17 Comments || Top||

#3  fuu--uuck--whose gonna run the newstands and drive the taxis--we're doomed--doomed i tell ya'
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 10/25/2004 1:35 Comments || Top||

#4  How do any Pakistani students qualify for higher education

Since the Indian/Pakistani educational system was inherited from the Brits, there might still be some normal schools left. Probably dwindling in number though.
Posted by: Rafael || 10/25/2004 3:10 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't know, man...don't diss the Pakis. Every one of them I've met on my travels has been a solid character. Their businessmen are really together. Fun, too.
Posted by: gromky || 10/25/2004 4:26 Comments || Top||

#6  A small but positive result of our war on Mus... eh terrorism.
Posted by: Infidel || 10/25/2004 14:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Hmmmm - who caught common sense at the state department, and can it be contagious?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/25/2004 14:36 Comments || Top||

#8  maybe it's just the number of Fake Pakistani passports that has decreased by 75% and the real ones are holding steady.
Posted by: 2b || 10/25/2004 19:55 Comments || Top||


Sharifs ready to finance anti-government protest
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 10:49:17 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Armed struggle™ is our right: JKLF leader
Posted by: Fred || 10/25/2004 10:53:40 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not a problem. If an armed struggle is what he wants, a bullet through his head should be an appropriate reward.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/25/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||



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