BAKER LAKE, Wash. - Rain-eeeeer .... Bear? When state Fish and Wildlife agents recently found a black bear passed out on the lawn of Baker Lake Resort, there were some clues scattered nearby — dozens of empty cans of Rainier Beer.
Ah, another happy camper.
The bear apparently got into campers' coolers and used his claws and teeth to puncture the cans. And not just any cans.
"He drank the Rainier and wouldn't drink the Busch beer," said Lisa Broxson, bookkeeper at the campground and cabins resort east of Mount Baker.
Rainier beer. Preferred two to one in bear taste tests
Fish and Wildlife enforcement Sgt. Bill Heinck said the bear did try one can of Busch, but ignored the rest.
Side note: Bears can read!
"He didn't like that (Busch) and consumed, as near as we can tell, about 36 cans of Rainier."
You know, Rainier beer sales have been failing since the 80's, I wouldnt be too surprised if this isnt a publicity stunt of some sort.
A wildlife agent tried to chase the bear from the campground but the animal just climbed a tree to sleep it off for another four hours. Agents finally herded the bear away, but it returned the next morning.
Nothing works better to rid yourself of a hangover than another beer.
Agents then used a large, humane trap to capture it for relocation, baiting the trap with the usual: doughnuts, honey and, in this case, two open cans of Rainier. That did the trick.
They live trapped some guy named Homer three times before they caught the bear.
"This is a new one on me," Heinck said. "I've known them to get into cans, but nothing like this. And it definitely had a preference."
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Y'all might find the following commercial for Kokanee beer interesting (real video required):
http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/files/kokanee.ram
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Yeah he had a preference or the Raineer was in a different cooler and he finished one off before moving on to the next, and then he was chased off or one drunk bear so he didn't drink many Busch.
Assuming you're tearing a bear can open with your big bear claws, how much beer is going to be left to drink?
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My friends always called it shotgunning a beer but I know what you're saying. Funny story, I had a roommate in college who didn't drink. He saw some guys shotgunning beers and thought it looked fun. He got himself a coka-cola and shotgunned that.
Needless to say even the drunks figured out what was gonna happen before the coke came out of his nose.
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busch absorbed hamms much like I tried to do many a weekend. The only thing that kept Lucky (sorry, Lucky) from the worst beer list was low low price and, after 24 Lucky's, the "tricky" puzzles in the bottlecap
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me either - I graduated, started buying better beer :-)
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You may be right mucki, I was taken in by the video. There should be some board, group or committee to make sure what we see on the internet is true.
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Rainier Ale, otherwise known to the cognoscenti as "Reindeer Piss" or, more familiarly, "The Green Death."
mucky, Hamm's (from the land of sky blue waters) is still marketed out west. The Hamm's Beer Bear was one of the most widely recognized advertising icons in all of television history.
Frank G, what you're calling a "tricky puzzle" is known as a rebus.
Shipman, you win today's prize for the funniest link. That was frickin' priceless!
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Frank G, what years were you at SDSU? I graduated in 91.
After graduation (Lynn Cheney spoke but nobody could hear her with the blow-up sex doll bouncing around the bowl) I decided I would never drink Meisterbrau again. Now its Karl Strauss whenever possible.
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graduated '83 Yank. Strauss beer kicks, along with Oggie's (Torrey Pines India Pale Ale is my Fav) - good local beer - took my kids and 66 yr old mom to the Pads last nite - 11-1 over Atlanta by the 7th
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Changes in North Korea's economy have led to spiralling food prices which many people cannot afford, according to the World Food Programme. "As the economy shifts from a FUBAR communist trainwreck planned economy to a more market-based economy, there are winners and starvers losers," Richard Ragan, WFP director in Pyongyang, said. He said that a new class of people now needed food assistance. That "new class" is more commonly referred to as "all of them."
Impoverished North Korean remains are being eaten daily deadlocked with its neighbours and the US over its nuclear programme. Australia's Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, is currently in the isolated nation, to urge it to renounce nuclear weapons. Mr Downer said he had asked North Korean officials to remain involved in six-nation talks on the controversial nuclear programme, after concerns that Pyongyang may pull out of preparatory meetings for the next round of negotiations. "I've been, on arriving here, concerned that the six-part talks process was stalling, and I hope that we've been able to add some substantial momentum to that process," Mr Downer said. Removing Kim will probably require many megatons of "momentum."
Earlier this week he promised Pyongyang "substantial" benefits in aid and investment if it ended Kim's life and its nuclear activities. The economy in North Korea, which for years has been beleaguered by profound levels of corruption, natural disasters and Stalinist planning, is now facing a new set of catastrophes challenges, Mr Ragan said. The country's public distribution system was only providing a fraction of the food that Kim can eat North Koreans need to live on, he told a press briefing in Beijing. He said the situation was driving economic, market-oriented reforms in the Stalinist country, because people were being forced to sell children goods to eke out a living. "Physically you see more wealth in Pyongyang, more stores, more restaurants, more automobiles... people seem to have more liquid capital," he said. "People are trading... and you see things which indicate that people have some disposable income," he said. "The bad news is that prices of food around the country are going up, and salaries are staying pretty static." The price of essential items like air, for instance has risen sharply in recent months. The cost of rice has doubled from this time last year, rising from 130 won ($0.92) per kilo to 700 won ($5.00), Mr Ragan said. Maybe Indonesia can ship them that mountain of rice they're not using. Continued on Page 49
Asylum seekers that pose a lethal threat roam freely in Norway because no authority has responsibility for them, Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reports. A female source at an asylum center said repeated warnings have been ignored. Five months ago Minister of Justice (and Police) Odd Einar DÞrum was personally notified about a Somalian asylum seeker with a criminal record that had threatened to kill residents and staff at an asylum reception center. The subject became headline news after a Norwegian-Somalian with a history of psychiatric problems was released from treatment days before a stabbing spree on an Oslo tram that ended in one death.
The NRK source wanted to remain anonymous since the asylum seeker remains at large, and she fears for her life. The woman said that the health service ignores early cries for help and that no authority is ready or equipped to step in. Mentally ill refugees without rights in Norway are wandering loose, she said. Last November the refugee threatened to stab someone if not granted medical assistance but received no help. He was arrested and charged with violence after knocking down a random person the next day. Now his whereabouts are unknown to police, health authorities and the asylum centers. "I am afraid that he will come back to the center and kill someone," the woman said.
"The tram murder should not surprise anyone. I believe we will see some dramatic event in coming months," said Elisabeth HÃ¥land at Hero, the country's largest operator of asylum centers.
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In some cases aren't "asylum seekers" just people that shred their identity documents because their shady backgrounds would prevent them from obtaining a legitimate VISA?
Post-9/11, the release of undocumented riff-raff into the population should be considered to be hazardous to the health of anyone who works in tall or otherwise prominent buildings.
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... This is a clear case of "tolerance" gone wild and becoming intolerance — and it is a double one. On the one hand, Muslims in Canada (at least some of them) claim that, in the name of Canadian "tolerance" and "multiculturalism," they have a right to live by their own legal rules (sharia), which is by definition intolerant (to non-Muslims), "morally conservative" and gives Muslims a legal domination over all others. On the other hand, the Left — of which feminism, here, in Europe and in Canada is one of the strongest contingents — believes in erasing religious moral standards, indiscriminate "equality" between sexes and to gays, bisexuals, etc. The problem for Western leftist politicians and their media sidekicks is that, sooner or later, their gay, feminist and "tolerant" constituencies would rebel and prove that they are still more numerous at the ballot box than those immigrant Muslims who cannot adapt.
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I don't think this guy has a very good handle on Canadian politics and identity. Take this statement:
Its official ideology is "multiculturalism." Canadians may not like the term, but that is the ruling Liberal Partyâs entrenched policy since the premiership of the late Pierre Elliott Trudeau in the 1970s.
Most Canadians love the term. Being multi-cultural means you are sophisticated and nuanced. It allows you to strike a contrary pose to the uni-culturalists, i.e., the intolerant and culture free Americans. If you want to read informed analysis of the folly of multi-culti Canada, start and end with Mark Steyn. Excessively tolerant Canada is a long way away from an open break with the enemy within. I put this in the same category as the American Jewish community continuing to disproportionately support the Dems. If you refuse to believe there is actual evil in the world, you are unlikely to change your mind until it breaks through your front door.
[Hey Steyn: I know you lurk here. Get your buddies at the Western Standard to drop their US rates. Believe it or not there are some of us Yanks (as opposed to Western Canadians in US exile) that would subscribe. But it's not going to happen at C$150/year.]
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Perhaps we should take them at their word, however this means that they *must* abide by sharia and appropriate punishments shall be meted out for all crimies (theft, etc)
Trolling for voters who fled the oppressive Bush Amerika...
Welcome to the first online Overseas Voter Registration and Absentee Ballot Request system. This registration and ballot request is for the upcoming Federal Election on November 2, 2004 only. Complete your registration in only 5 minutes!
Unless you go way down to the bottom of the page you'll never see the fine print.
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If you go to page two, go all the way to the bottom, you'll see a "Contact Us" message. Put your cursor over that and guess what? The e-mail address is vote@aokerry.com. Sure it's not authorized, plus Kerry's sister is on the stump in Canada getting out the dimocrate vote, pimping this site.
Full text at the link. Just a couple of "comments". Heh heh.
"Thank you. I am proud to be a lifetime member of this organization and grateful for your continued deep commitment to veterans and to the defense and security of our nation. For more than 100 years now, you have had many distinguished veterans come before you - some Republican, some Democrat, some presidents. But as a fellow veteran, I can proudly say that there is one title that is more important than all, and that is patriot. You have all earned that title and I am proud to stand with you today."
How times have changed, eh Senator? The Veteran of Foreign Wars made it clear yesterday that it is none too pleased with Sen. John Kerry's 1970s role in the defunct Vietnam Veterans Against the War, which, at the time, called the VFW a "a paramilitary, pro-war organization" out of touch with young veterans. Mr. Kerry was VVAW's chief spokesman during the early 1970s and is slated to make a campaign pitch today in Cincinnati to the annual convention of the VFW. Mr. Kerry, whose presidential campaign has emphasized his service as a Navy lieutenant in Vietnam, joined VVAW in 1970, after returning from Vietnam and denounced the VFW in a 1971 book. "We will not quickly join those who march on Veterans Day waving small flags, calling to memory those thousands who died for the 'greater glory of the United States.' ... We will not readily join the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars," he wrote then. A 1971 VVAW fund-raising letter, titled "Men of Peace" and signed "yours in peace," accused the VFW and the American Legion of promoting an agenda of "world domination." A copy of the letter, obtained by The Washington Times, is part of an extensive collection of VVAW's papers in the collection of the State Historical Society of Wisconsin in Madison.
"They testify to the truth that we will never back down in defense of freedom. We will use superior military force to overcome any enemy. Let me be clear: like you, I defended this country as a young man. And I will defend it as president. I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. Any imminent threat to our security will be dealt with swiftly and severely. I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security. And I will build a stronger American military."
Imminent threat, Senator? Gee, weren't you against preemptive action in Iraq? I guess that was before you were for it.
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Mmmm... any word on how Sen. Kerry was recieved by the VFW audience? Judging by some of the things that some of the old Vietnam-era veterans were saying about him last week--- I was waiting for prescriptions to be filled at the BAMC pharmacy--- this might turn rather interesting.
(Wonder if security was frisking the VFW and confiscating rotten vetetables, eggs, etc?)
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I watched the speech on FoxNews - he got substantial applause on numerous occasions. I was disgusted with the audience. All hot air about how "I will do it differently, better, blah3" - with zero detail. And they applauded. I'm going to cancel my membership.
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He's changed his tune since his acceptance speech. Surprise, surprise. .com, on the reaction of the crowd, it's easy to respond to platitudes like "veterans deserve better treatment." How did they react to criticisms of Bush and the redeployment plan?
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"And I will defend it as president. I will never hesitate to use force when it is required. Any attack will be met with a swift and certain response. Any imminent threat to our security will be dealt with swiftly and severely."
This a concern to me. I for one do not think this man is functioning on all cylinders. I also don't think he has a clue as to what his words really mean or how to act in the face of a threat. I'm not even sure Hanoi John could identify a threat. Besides all the rhetoric of the campaign it comes down to who do you feel comnfortable with in the Whitehouse. I for one am scared shitless about a Kerry Presidency.
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Tibor - I recall he ridiculed Bush's redeployment regards Korea - using McCain as cover who said that the NorKs really do have nukes and a reduction of troops was something like irresponsible (don't remember exact words). As if a relatively tiny number of ground troops are a deterrent to a nuke attack.
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I for one am scared shitless about a Kerry Presidency.
Ain't no thang. And all ya gotta do is show up at the polls in November.
Kerry has yet to present himself as anything other than an alternative to W. The left is riding high at the moment. But I really believe that W will get a super landslide in November.
THAT is when things will get skerry. The left will lose all control of their bodily functions.
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badanov - You have no idea (heh) how much I hope you're right... and I won't mind helping "mop up" if it happens, heh. I'll even provide escort duty - to the border of their choice.
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This is simply his slither to the center, I hope enough people are smart enough to see it for what it is.
You would think 20 years of being an anti-military Senator are hard to conceal.
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"I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."
You're lying to yourself and lying to us. If lightning strikes and you end up elected, you will prove yourself famous for all time as political whore to Europe's whims and the UN's favorite American-guilt-plagued whipping boy. That's the reason the "This Land" cartoon was so funny (the one with you on your knees in S&M garb below Kofi et al)-it RINGS TRUE.
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I recently attended a wedding and the reception was held at the local VFW hall. I was amused to see stickers of Jane Fonda's head with crosshairs affixed to the inside of the toilet, to assist with "targeting". I'd love to witness Sen. JoKe's reaction to seeing his friend's face in the sh*tcan, and I wonder if a male version of that sticker is in the works.
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.com, I was reading this article about the speech:
"Large portions of the crowd applauded each of his many promises to protect veterans' benefits. Smaller portions vocally backed his points on Iraq and terrorism. Some veterans sat with arms folded, while others stood and clapped.
One man heckled Kerry, calling him a liar.
"I'll say it myself. He's a liar," said John Ranson of Fort Thomas, Ky., a 57-year-old Vietnam veteran who sat a few feet away from the heckler. He said Kerry had not supported U.S. troops as a senator or three decades ago as a returning Vietnam veteran who protested the war."
In case the link doesn't work, here's the url: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040818/480/ohdk10308181644
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Try this for a hint of "response" to Kerry's remarks. They should have mooned him while they were at it!
(Yahoo)
War veterans Jere Hill, middle, from Warham, Mass., and Robert Gibson, right, from Lexington, Ky., stand with their backs turned during Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's speech at the 105th Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention in Cincinnati on Wednesday, Aug. 18, 2004.
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I for one am scared shitless about a Kerry Presidency.
No reason to be scared. On the other hand, I can see a reason to be laughing my head off at how gullible the voting public turned out to be, and how emasculated this nation will likely become as a result if he's voted in. If people are sold on the stupid Anybody-But-Bush mentality, fine, but don't even THINK about whining when the chickens come home to roost.
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My liberal boss (who told me she isn't a liberal!!) told me today that she couldn't understand why, as a veteran, I wasn't supporting a military man, meaning Kerry. Before I had a chance to respond, she told me not to believe that crazy bunch of people questioning his war record. I responded..."Then how come he's had to retract his Cambodia story?" at which she got angry and said he hadn't and that she knew the truth and it wasn't what those others were saying.
This is what we're dealing with...Kerry supporters are refusing to believe anything but what Kerry says. And that worries me.
I applaud those vets who turned their backs on him today.
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Any imminent threat to our security will be dealt with swiftly and severely.
I picture a cartoon of State Department guys milling looking like UN "genocide definition" clowns. One possibly consulting a copy of Websters as they discuss the whether the threat is "imminent."
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I see Smugley Lurch-man and, I see those vets, and I say to those Vets. RIGHT-ON!
My late father was a WWII veteran. He said little, except for when he would have a problem with the malaria he contracted on Manus Island (S Pacific) in 1944-1945. He would actually shake. He had attacks into the mid 1960's.
So when Baron von Kerrhausen says he was in Cambodia at a date known only to God, and then hear all the explanations of how impossible it was, I get steamed.
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I know he is probably scared shitless to come to any of the VFW's I've been to in my home state.
Too many of the old guys remember his traitorous comments in 71, and us guys from the sandbox wars know his votes against in 91 and "for then against" now.
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For some reason, I'm reminded of those Onion pieces that do the same thing . . . and this probably means just as much. They get to express their view at the poll, provided they don't listen to their local seething mullah and ignore the voting booth same as everyone else. Really, I'm not trying to be racist here, but why should we care what they have to say, since they'll say it on November 2nd anyway?
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Not interested in the views of an "Arab-American". Now if someone identified themselves as American Arabs, then maybe I just might pay attention...
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Actually, according to Amir Taheri, the split is 60 - 40 in favor of Kerry, though probably lower, because many Arabs are probably planning to vote for Bush, but are afraid to say so in public. The reality is that many people defined as being Arab because they are from Arab countries are Copts, Assyrians, Maronites, et al - Christians who fled to America to escape Muslim persecution in Arab countries. By comparison, the Jewish vote for Kerry will probably stay at 80 - 20 in favor of Kerry.
Nine months of chaos and casualties in Iraq since Saddam Hussein's capture have taken a heavy toll on American opinion of President Bush's decision to go to war. Last December, when Saddam was caught, public support for Bush was 2-to-1 in favor. Now the public is evenly divided on whether the war was the right thing to do or whether it was a mistake.
Older people, minorities, people with lower incomes, residents of the Northeast and Catholics are among those increasingly skeptical of the war effort, according to Associated Press polling.
These shifts in public sentiment reflect the difficulties in Iraq — including a death toll nearing 1,000 U.S. soldiers, the violent insurgency against the new Iraqi government and U.S. forces and the failure to find weapons of mass destruction, which was among the central justifications for Bush's decision to go to war. "It was a mistake," said 73-year-old Mil Jenkinson, a retired schoolteacher and a Democrat from Dickinson, N.D. "There were no weapons of mass destruction. I keep thinking it's not our place to rule the world. Everyone does not think our way of life is the right way. It's arrogant of us to go into a country and tell them what kind of government to have." Hey chill out will ya, we are bringing democracy and freedom to those bastards, they will accept it if not we'll blast them! Continued on Page 49
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Yes Murat, lets post pictures of Nazi's and compare them to our leaders of today. Anybody have a mural of Mohammed and Fidel Castro? Or how about phrases said by the "Prophet", then by a famous criminal/dictator/murderer? You know what, I bet if we had a picture of Murat we could find a Jew in Isreal or NYC that looks just like him, thus proving Murat is Jewish!
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Murat, are you EVER going to offer your proof that I'm a Kurd? Or are you a coward as well as a hate-filled twit?
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That is a copyrighted image and needs deletion.
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Let's tremember that Hadj Amin Hussien the so-called Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who sided with the Nazis and encouraged Muslim strocities gainst Serbs had begun his carreer during the Armenian genocide and wearing Turkish uniform.
Murat next time dodn't forget to compare Bush to him.
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Hey, Murat, which country is it that was directly supporting a genocide-denial spam program online in the early 90s? You know, loudly, relentlessly, and robotically denying a historical mass-murder of an entire people? Armenian genocide ring a bell?
Fuck off and die, Murat. Citizens of an unrepentant genocidal nation-state don't get a pass on playing the Nazi card.
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This doesn't compute. The Nazis were socialists, and Rumsfeld is a capitalist. Judging by the general's aristocratic name, there's a good chance he was not a Nazi. Many of the aristocrats in the German army were anti-Nazi.
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Virginian - the socialist element in the Nazi party was led by rivals to Hitler, who were eliminated in the "night of the long knives" in 1935. Hitler had the support of many German industrialists. And he also had the support of much of the German army high command, although they often wavered. A few aristocratic German generals were consistently anti-Hitler, but many were not.
OTOH, its still rather stupid to attack Rumsfeld for looking like a German general. I mean Rummy is German by background, so what?? You could probably find a Stalinist NKVD officer of Jewish background who looks like me - despite my being a lifelong antistalinist. Attacking people because of their background or looks is racism.
Regardless of one's opinion of Iraq, none of this divided opinion means that the wise course of action wouldn't be to see our efforts through. Now if you're sore at being treated as less than an ally, well, it should certainly be obvious as to why that is...
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Murat, if you ever had any currency here, you just pissed it away. Troll.
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Smack a turk for Kurd autonomy today!
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Definition of moron: a fan of Michael Moore. Murat, you have a serious defect in critical thinking ability if you think that man presents anything resembling persuasive arguments or coherent theories. Hope you're keeping your tinfoil hat in good repair, you gullible freak.
Older people, minorities, people with lower incomes, residents of the Northeast and Catholics are among those increasingly skeptical of the war effort, according to Associated Press polling.
In other words, most groups that have a propensity to vote for DemocRATS. File this under Dog Bites Man.
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Hey everybody. Calm down. Remember, Murat is a member of an underdeveloped nation--backward, prejudiced, etc. When he goes to see "moving pictures," he BELIEVES what he sees, 'cuz he saw it "with his own two eyes," now, didn't he . . .?
#1
This is actually old news. I remember seeing a story before the war -- dammit, I can't remember where -- saying that the Israelis were training the USMC in MOUT. Looks like the Marines were good students, too.
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Actually, IDF instructors have observed and added comments on USMC MOUT instruction at Camp Pendleton, CA. My Son was an instructor there at the time. In a previous life, I attended similar training in countries along the Levant.
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One thing Israel surely knows: Kerry will be no friend. They're likely to come to the conclusion, very quickly, that "we're on our own now."
I predict that in the event of a Kerry victory this November, Israel will launch an attack to take out the Iranian nuclear apparatus within hours of the election results being known.
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Ironic, too due to his real Czech Jewish heritage (he's only Irish when Mass. votes)
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Re #2 Don't degrade one of my cowboy celluloid heroes. Foul-mouthed tobacco chewin' drunken reprobates can often knoock you down with their breathe alone...viva Gabby Hayes!
... Mr. Abbassi's speech further detailed that "[Iran's] missiles are now ready to strike at their civilization, and as soon as the instructions arrive from Leader [Ali Khamenei], we will launch our missiles at their cities and installations." In fact over the past few months, Mr. Khamenei has been vocal about the impending "destruction of the U.S." In May, he was quoted in the Iranian paper Jomhouri-Ye Eslami as saying that "the world will witness the annihilation of this arrogant regime." On July 5, in front of a crowd chanting, "Woe to the enemy if Khamenei commands me to wage jihad," Mr. Khamenei said, "If someone harms our people and invades our country, we will endanger his interests anywhere in the world."
Other Iranian religious leaders have also called for the destruction of America. The secretary general of the Guardian Council, Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, appeared on Iran's Channel 1 TV on June 4 and said, "Every Muslim and every honorable man who is not a Muslim must stand against the Americans, English, and Israelis, and endanger their interests wherever they may be." When he added "They must not have security," thousands in the audience repeated chants of "Islam is victorious, America will be annihilated." On June 25,Mr.Jannati also led prayers and promised, "Anyone who confronted the revolution, the Imam [Khomeini], and our dedicated people eventually collapsed. America is the last one, and Allah willing it will collapse..."The following week Ayatollah Mohammad Emami-Kashani delivered the Friday sermon live on Channel 1, saying America will collapse like Genghis Khan's empire, "I say to you the American peopleâŠyou will collapse, America will collapse."
"Time bombs within America" is how Iranian lawmaker Hamid-Reza Katoziyan described Muslims within America, who could be behind future terrorist attacks here. Speaking on Iranian TV channel Jaam-E-Jam 2 on July 27, Mr. Katoziyan warned: "The whole group of people belonging to the Arab community andâŠMuslims living in the U.S. are currently, in my opinion, in a special situation. Perhaps they do not walk the streets with weapons in their hands or attach bombs to themselves in order to carry out a suicide operation, but the thought is there."
Just as statements from Iranian religious and political leaders, as well as TV programs, have focused on attacking America, so has the print press. An editorial in the July 6 edition of the Iranian daily Kayhan, the conservative paper affiliated with Mr. Khamenei, issued another warning for the future: "âŠthe White House's 80 years of exclusive rule are likely to become 80 seconds of hell that will burn to ashesâŠThat very day, those who resist [Iran] will be struck from directions they never expected. The heartbeat of the crisis is undoubtedly [dictated by] the hand of Iran."
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hell if bush or blair said this kinda shit there would be uproar from the leffties.Wish are media would get thier priorities right and start telling the public what these mussies are saying about what their gonna do to us. Cant afford to wait much longer - i wouldnt wait till the years out before smashing the mullars into dust.
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We'll finally have the excuse to do what should have been done in '79.
Author, author!
Wish are media would get thier priorities right and start telling the public ...
Funny how "unilateralism" by terrorists doesn't seem to show up on the media's radar.
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âTime bombs within Americaâ is how Iranian lawmaker Hamid-Reza Katoziyan described Muslims within America
Many, if not most of whom left Islamic paradises like Iran to escape these raving loonies.
Since I'm pretty sure that the volatility of their rhetoric against us goes up in direct proportion to the effectiveness of our policies against them, we must be doing okay in Iraq.
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Time to start up the "Voice of Free Iran" broadcasts
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Now will the MSM recognize these guys as a threat? Can we please send in the Marines to kick some asses?
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I suggest we title the result: "The Mentally Deranged Rat that Roared."
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I wanna what mad mullahs are smokin'. They play with AID (Auto-Inflicted Destruction). Would Allan lift the finger to save them? Here you see what you got when your deity is a moon god--you turn into a stark raving lunatic, barking moonbat. Pity the regular Iranians, though, I am not sure that what would be left would appreciate the nightly eerie glow from what used to be cities and infrastructure.
By Saul Hudson
A hawkish yet incredibly sane U.S. official said on Tuesday that Iran has warned it could make enough bomb-grade material in a year to produce a nuclear weapon, a threat that may boost a U.S. push to bomb the crap out of them and report Tehran to the United Nations. Invitation to special UNSC Iran Crisis catered panel discussion in Tahiti in 4...3...2...
In recent weeks, Iran has intensified its standoff over its nuclear programs and the United States has said it is increasingly likely the U.N. Security Council would take up the case against the Islamic republic for possible hand slapping sanctions. U.S. Under Secretary of State John Bolton said Iran had sought in negotiations with European powers to pressure them to ease their uncharacteristic opposition to its suspected weapons programs. "They've told the EU three (Britain, France and Germany) that they could produce, they could enrich enough uranium for a nuclear weapon within a year and they could produce nuclear weapons within the range of our own assessment, which is a way of threatening the Europeans to get them to back down," the senior official said at a Washington think tank session on Iran. U.S. officials with access to intelligence estimates say Iran can achieve a bomb in three to five years and the United States believes that would be a danger in the Middle East, notably to its close ally Israel. None of this accounts for what would happen if a rogue nation like North Korea simply sold them the fissile material.
Oil-rich and neuron poor Iran says its nuclear programs, which the U.N. nuclear watchdog has been monitoring, are for Jew killing peaceful energy projects. Bolton, a hawk in the Bush administration who is skeptical talks with Iran will ever be successful, said the Europeans had assured the United States they would not bow to the pressure and instead continue to sell them dual use technology. The European Union three have been negotiating with Iran for a really big arms sale package and share information with the United States on the talks, although they have given few details publicly about high-level meetings they held last month, diplomats said.
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This could be the October surprise:
Eliminating the Mahdi Army and all the baathist dregs requires Bush to take action against both Syria and Iran. Needs to send the right message while the Marines mop up the remaining islamicidiots. So, send a few cruise missles targetted on the Iranian nukes and enrichment sites. Give no warning - anyone working to develop a WMD is fair game. What can Kerry say? Does he take the French, German, Russian and Chinese side or the American side?
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What can Kerry say? Does he take the French, German, Russian and Chinese side or the American side?
My guess is that he'd take the French, German, Russian and Chinese side, but that's just a hunch.
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could we nuke the site and them blame it on a faulty reactor?
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I think the bottom line is we will all go nuclear. Probably hundreds of millions of people are going to die and civilization is going to take a hell of a hit. It's sort of like 1938 with radioactivity.
The really sad part is that it is all so unecessary, unfortunately we (that includes Europe) do not have the will or sense to act and head this all off.
Makes you wonder who the war criminals really are.
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I disagree, I don't think it will go nuclear. No matter what the US or Euro's do, Israel can not and will not allow Iran (or any arab nation) to get nuclear weapons. They'll whack the reactor before it gets to that.
Sometimes it just gets a body down thinking about it.
Sorry for being so negative.
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I'm with AHM - Sharon or his successor can never allow the blackhats to have nukes, regardless of the *ahem* fallout from a disabling attack
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The Iranian mullahs' incessant threats and provocation are nothing but an outright invitation to attack their nuclear facilities. Does anyone else feel that that the consequent radiological poisoning of so many Iranians will constitute a crime against humanity committed by the mullahs? Iran knows d@mn well Israel and America will never let them go nuclear, yet they firmly position themselves as a victim, fully aware of the potential for loss of life. This is tantamount to using their population as a human shield for their nuclear weapons program. All of this is much like positioning military headquarters in an orphanage or hospital. Somehow, this malfeasance needs to be highlighted for the global community.
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the global community won't care - witness the outrage when Arafat uses ambulances to transport weapons and gunnies, or the Baathist habit of storing weapons in hospitals, schools, and orphanages
*crickets chirping*
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I disagree, I don't think it will go nuclear.
I wish I could believe that but I'm afraid that A. Q. Kahn's Nuclear Supermarket has let the atomic genie out of the bottle once and for all. It's been decades since the actual details of the production of nuclear weapons were secret, the key to avoiding proliferation has always been control of fissile material and now the ability to produce that has been widely dispersed. There are likely at least hundreds (probably thousands and perhaps tens of thousands) of Muslim engineers who are capable of setting up & operating the fuel cycle to enrich uranium. The requisite raw material isn't extremely scarce or particularly difficult-to-obtain, nor is the necessary machining/manufacturing technology anything to write home about by modern (or even 1980s) standards.
There's nothing preventing Iran's mullahs from outsourcing their enrichment activities to, say, Muslim nations in North Africa. It's a virtual certainty that Iran has already propagated the relevant knowledge to Syria & Saudi Arabia and likely others to preserve it for the Ummah in the event that the worst happens in Iran. With the relevant information, knowledge, people, material, machinery & processes necessary to produce nuclear weapons now widely dispersed, I fear we're in for a rough stretch.
Reports posted today on this site significantly up the ante for any potential Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear capability. Iran has apparently delivered over a thousand missiles to Syria/Hizbolla that would almost certainly be used (by Hizbolla of course for whom Syria will deny responsibility) in the event of an Israeli action against Iran. In addition, Iran has promised to strike Israel's operating nuclear plant (likely causing a Chernobyl-like disaster) in the event of any attack ... that would almost certainly demand a nuclear response from Israel.
I can envision dozens of similar scenarios, but I don't see one that ends other than in an nuclear exchange or at minimum open warfare between Israel and one or more Muslim nations in the next few years. The endgame in the Middle East is rapidly approaching and it appears that there's little to be done to head it off.
Some foreign students who attended the Maulana Maudoodi Institute in Lahore fought for jihadi groups, but the Jamaat-e-Islami school never supported foreign militants, Jamaat sources told Daily Times on Wednesday. "The Maulana Maudoodi Institute in Lahore was once a hub of Arab Mujahideen but the administration was not aware of their activities. After September 11, some of the Arabs disappeared mysteriously and the administration made a conscious effort to look into foreign students," a teacher at the institute said.
The Jamaat is considered the best-organised political party in Pakistan with close links with Islamic movements all over the world and branch offices around the globe. There are independent JIs in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and Indian-held Kashmir, but the braches in other countries are controlled by the Pakistan organisation. These branches usually work among overseas Pakistani communities and their basic purpose is to collect funds for the party. The Jamaat has recently faced accusations from Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat that it is supporting Al Qaeda-linked militants. The JI also came under criticism when Al Qaeda members were arrested from members' houses.
KABUL: Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Wednesday called on neighbouring countries, particularly Pakistan, to stop militants crossing into Afghanistan through poorly monitored borders and cooperate in the "fight against terrorism".
Has he been talking to India? They said almost the same thing...
"Today I kindly request neighbouring countries' cooperation in the fight against terrorism," Karzai said in an address to the nation marking the Afghan Independence Day. "I ask them not to allow terrorists to enter our country from their territories because their countries' security depends upon Afghanistan's security." Many Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters are thought to cross easily between villages straddling the border with Pakistani tribal areas. Speaking to thousands of people gathered in Kabul's National Stadium, Karzai hailed progress towards Afghanistan's first presidential elections, saying more than 10 million people had registered to vote. "The election is a major step towards security and stability of our country," he said.
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Though he's earned fame and fortune portraying rough and tough military figures on television and in feature films, R. Lee Ermey has a soft spot when it comes to caring for troops. Ermey, popular host of the History Channel's "Mail Call," in which he answers questions about military technology, has put together the R. Lee Emery Celebrity Experience, a three-day event to raise money for servicemembers and their families. The event benefits the Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society and the Young Marines Association, for which Ermey is a spokesman.
The Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society provides financial, educational, and other assistance to members of the Naval Services of the United States, eligible family members and survivors when in need. The Young Marines is a youth education and service program for boys and girls, ages 8 through completion of high school, which focuses on character building, leadership, and promotes a healthy, drug-free lifestyle. Ermey said the fundraiser begins at Marine Corps Base Quantico, Va., Sept. 10 with more than 20 of his Hollywood friends putting on a free six- hour show for troops there. "They're who I call the Hollywood 'good guys,'" he said. "They show up at all the charity events I do," he said in a Pentagon Channel interview last week. Ermey, who starred in "Full Metal Jacket" (1987), "The Boys of Company C" (1978) and "Apocalypse Now" (1979), said the show will feature music, entertainment and "a lot of comedy."
My favorite; "The Siege of Firebase Gloria" (1989).
"A lot of the guys that do comedy seem to give of themselves when it comes to charity," he said. "They're good guys." The show will be held the Little Hall Theater at Quantico. The event is free to all military personnel and family members with government ID. On Sept. 11, Ermey, along with several of his Hollywood friends, will take part in a Celebrity-Amateur Golf Tournament at the Renditions Golf Course in Davidsonville, Md. Tickets for the event are $5,000 each.
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Funny they mention Apocolypse now, he's a copter pilot with about 30 seconds screen time.
He was best in Saving Silverman, the man can laugh at himself and his tough guy persona. He's great and so is his motivational action figure.
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Now there is a real Vietnam vet hero. Sgt. Emery, just think, you could have run for the Dem prez nominee and actually have been full metal jacket qualified!
A hunger "strike gains strength." Odd wordplay there, BBC.
"Fat gains in malnutrition... Number of deaths show lively gains..."
Hundreds more Palestinian prisoners have joined a four-day-old hunger strike, Israeli prison officials say. A total of 2,264 of 3,800 prisoners in jails run by the prison service were now refusing their meals while on camera, prison service spokesman Ian Domnitz said. The strike was declared on Sunday to protest against secure prison conditions for terrorist Palestinians held by Israel. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat has urged people to fast as he belched and reached for another kebab for one day in solidarity with the striking prisoners. After all, Arafat is an expert when it comes to starving people. Especially his own.
The prisoners are demanding mandatory visiting rights, better sanitary conditions, public telephones and an end to strip searches. Gosh, they left out the part about air conditioners and computers in every cell. Musta been a typo.
Israel has vowed not to give way, calling the protest a ploy to secure easier communication between prisoners and militant allies waging an uprising against Israeli occupation since 2000. The prisoners' ability to coordinate this strike while being held incommunicado would seem to be proof of this. Continued on Page 49
Isreal should refuse them the liquids too. No telling what kind of nutritious vitamins and minereals have been sneaked into the water to keep the prisoners going.
That and I want to see how long it takes before they start Jihad argueing over who gets the water in the toilet bowl.
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Actually this is not a hunger strike the Palestinians are all going on the South Beach Diet.
from Haaretz, via Roger Simon
13:54 Leaders of Palestinian security prisoners` strike, among them Marwan Barghouti, seen eating in secret in their cells Just like when Oscar Madison went to Fat Camp...
"You kidscannon fodder noble martyrs go ahead and starve, okay? Make it look good for teevee. We're only pretending to starve over here in this wing. We're too important to The Cause."
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"Once again we see that in Palestinian society, the corrupt leaders send the ordinary people to fight to the death, while they themselves take special privileges," Prison Service spokesman Ofer Lefler said.
Everyone sees their "leadership" for what it is
Well, everyone except: palis, arab states, euroweenies, Jimmy Carter and the US Left.
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So these two faced "leaders" of the "struggle" are hypocrites tell me someting we didn't know.
Didn't you hear Aqua Teen Hunger Terrorists has been cancled! It can now be seen every sunday night.(damm Sealab 2021 to heck) Yes FlameBait watches adult swim Frylock would know what to do with these bastards.
In a rare admission of wrongdoing, Yasser Arafat said on Wednesday that he has made 'mistakes' and promised to correct them. Mr Arafat was vague about the errors he believes he has made, but called for a 'comprehensive workshop of reforms'. The veteran Palestinian leader issued his plea for reform of the Palestinian Authority in an address to lawmakers at his battered headquarters in the West Bank town of Ramallah. He has been under growing pressure internationally and from critics at home to implement reforms in the authority, which is widely accused of corruption and ineffectiveness. He said: 'We have to be brave enough to admit mistakes. We fortify our commitment to correct those mistakes.' During the speech, Mr Arafat was vague about the errors he believes he has made, but called for a 'comprehensive workshop of reforms'.
'It's true there were wrongs and unacceptable practices by me and many others. Even the prophets commit mistakes,' he said. He called for the greater inclusion of women and young leaders in Palestinian politics. Despite growing criticism, he has refused to relinquish his powers, particularly his control over the myriad and rival Palestinian security services.
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Shipman, wouldn't it be fun if Yasser was at your table. Everybody cold just step out of the way when it was his turn for the trust-building fall backward excercise.
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From The Wall Street Journal, an opinion article by Dorothy Rabinowitz
.... When the news of those pictures became public in April, Pfc. [Lynndie] England had an explanation: She had been following orders from higher-ups, had been told, like others in her company, that she and the others were doing a good job, and to keep doing what they were doing with the prisoners. In her sworn statement, she described making a detainee run and crawl down a hall for hours at a time while she had a belt around his neck, and how her fellow MPs also kicked and punched prisoners. Who the higher-ups were who had approved the group's treatment of prisoners she could not say.
This was a decidedly different explanation from the one she initially gave, according to the Army investigator who first confronted her with the photographs. Months before those were made public, investigator Paul Arthur testified at the recent Article 32 hearing, Pfc. England had told him that the photos of her humiliating the naked prisoners had been taken just in order to have some fun -- just some fooling around while on the night shift. There was no mention of orders from higher-ups. The just-following-orders defense would come later -- the explanation offered not only by Lynndie England but most of the other six members of the 372nd Military Police Company facing serious prison if convicted.
It was a defense instantly embraced by every antiwar, anti-administration organ in the nation. .... Others, too, took the position that innocent soldiers were being made to pay the price for doing the bidding of powerful superiors who had directed them to commit the acts. ...
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I almost feel sorry for that dimwitted little twit, but for the havoc she has created and all of the media attention she will no doubt get drummed out dishonerably and maybe even get some time in the pokey. From what I've seen and heard there was nothing beyond some humiliation going on but still, somebody's got to go to the wall. She should have known better.
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I dont feel sorry for the little witch... not one ounce. Not only did she do those things but now she is lying about it with her claims of 'orders'.
I think she shold be sent to a prison for a very long time.
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I've always posted news about all sides of this issue, Robert. You're the one who seems to be interested in news that reinforces only your own opinion.
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Iraq's National Conference refused Wednesday to send a second delegation to the holy city of Najaf to negotiate an end to fighting between U.S. troops and loyalists of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, a day after he rebuffed their demand for a meeting.
Violence continued in the city Wednesday. Conference delegates suggested they were fed up with al-Sadr, believed holed up in the Imam Ali shrine, after their eight man delegation met with his aides Tuesday but never saw the cleric himself. ''If there were anyone sympathizing with him in the past, there will be none from now on because of this stand,'' delegate Abdul-Halim al-Ruhaimi said Wednesday. Amid the clashes, an 8-member delegation from the conference flew Tuesday to Najaf to convince Muqtada al-Sadr to abandon his uprising. The delegation met the firebrand cleric's aides, but al-Sadr himself failed to show up to meet them. Al-Sadr aide Ahmed al-Shaibany said the cleric did not show because of the ''heavy shelling from the planes and tanks of the U.S. forces.''
Sporadic gunfire and explosions were heard in Najaf again Wednesday as clashes continued. Fighting in Najaf has killed six people and wounded 23 others since Tuesday morning, Hussein Hadi of Najaf General Hospital, said Wednesday.
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Balls in your court Sadr.
Time to bandage up your weenie and tape it really good or you wont have it when you get to heaven and your 72 virgins. Those regular Marines qualified at 500 yards and they have a bullet with your name on it now. You don't want to know the distance the snipers can hit you from.
Tater is fried real soon now.
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By ALEX BERENSON and SABRINA TAVERNISE - Published: August 18, 2004
NAJAF, Iraq, Aug. 17 - The rebel cleric Moktada al-Sadr refused to meet here on Tuesday with a peace delegation that traveled from a national conference in Baghdad, and fighting between American forces and his Shiite militia intensified.
It is not yet clear whether Mr. Sadr's refusal to meet the delegates will scuttle the chance for talks between him and the interim Iraqi government. Members of the mission said they were not upset that Mr. Sadr had turned them away, and both sides said lower-level discussions had been cordial.
The delegation had come to ask that Mr. Sadr give up control of the Imam Ali shrine and join the political process in return for amnesty for his fighters. For almost two weeks, his forces have battled Americans in Najaf, in the Sadr City district in Baghdad, and in several cities across southern Iraq.
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Man, posting anything from the NYT makes me seeth and wish there was a hard revolution going on in the streets of the USA!! Between the Judges the ACLU and the leftist media, I feel it's a good time for a blood letting!!
Technically true. But why not mention they were basically terrorists as well?
But Mr. Sadrâs forces, who withstood an American attack in the spring and have survived the past two weeks of heavy fighting, appeared to be in good spirits.
Sometimes...you just gotta stand back and laugh at these reporter jerks. Mr. Sadre, eh? Good spirits? Survived the US onslaught. Well he's a regular superman ain't he.
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Why is the high morale of 1000 members of Sadr's forces material if they are getting exterminated at a rate of 10 a day? Exuberant dead jihadis are more of a sanitation problem than an impediment to Iraqi freedom.
Does anyone know of a miltary blogger that is in the action there? I have enjoyed reading MY WAR. The NC paper that was embedded with the USMC in Fallujah was also excellent reading. I would bet that the morale of the guys wasting the Mahdi Army would be pretty high.
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Sounds like good urban practice for the sniper teams. Snipers wear down the oposition. I bet at least half of those 1000 are reconsidering their prospects of survival, the rest are on drugs and don't care. The NYT is such a "fag rag" as one of my friends put it. Any negative spin they put on anything is suspect.. well all the crap they print is suspect actually.
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My brother is french and he reads Le Monde and Figaro daily. I tell him that those papers represent the way the world is according to the french but in french. Whereas the NYT's presents the world according to the french but in English!
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Marine snipers killed 62 people on Tuesday
If this is true, this is really remarkably good news. Principally this means that, at least to a degree, the gloves have been taken off. There is no better way to wear down the Jihadist than a relentless sniping campaign...it is in effect, our version of IED's
But there is more to it than that...soldiers kill other solider or, in this instance, fighters. There is a logic and honor to this cruel calculus...it is what we are supposed to be doing.
On the other hand, I recently saw some footage of 500lb bombs being dropped on Sumarra...and the action seemed to me to automatically give a propaganda opening to the other side. Images of people scrambling through blown apart houses are always sympathetically viewed across the world.
Of course, this is a grunt's eye view...I'm sure the air arm would insist that their methods are...at least safer for our troops.
It is a fair point. But in this arena US troops pretty much can take care of themselves...they just want to be able to freely kill whoever needs killing. And if you're going to kill a man, (and the Jihadist are men), it still seems best to kill him yourself. Kind of the honorable thing to do.
So to me, the sniper news is good news...if the sniper teams are allowed to relentlessly continue their work.
Hate to think what will happen when they start to move.
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One person who helped organize the conference described the showdown as a "big and serious split among the big parties," with religious Islamic parties doggedly insisting on bigger representation than secular Sunnis and Kurds were willing to give.
Notice how this is worded -- as if the Sunni's and Kurds are repressing the 'Religious Islamic parties' ....
I'm sure the thugs were able to prepare their script and demostration for the delegation and (more importantly) reporters.
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"But Mr. Sadr's forces, who withstood an American attack in the spring and have survived the past two weeks of heavy fighting, appeared to be in good spirits."
From the Joseph Goebbels Correspondence School of Progaganda --- "Whilst the Wermacht is getting its butt kicked on the Eastern Front, be sure to release rosy statements about the morale of our sprited Germanic troops."
Appears that someone on the NYT has taken a page from Old Joe's lesson.
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MD: That the Marines killed 62 Mahdi is even better news, because Maj. David Holahan, executive officer of the 1st Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment said, ââWe sat still during the entire time on purpose.ââ
Just to clarify - the word Mahdi means Messiah. Sadr is claiming to be the Muslim Messiah (yes, they have apocalyptic books like the Revelations, except their version involves a Messiah who vanquishes unbelievers and the enemies of Islam).
The Mahdi reference also plays well in the Islamic world because of the revolt in Sudan, culminating in the defeat of Gordon at Khartoum in the 1880s, the classic jihadi dream come true. Of course, they usually leave out the fact that all of Gordon's troops were Egyptians and black Sudanese, and, therefore, fellow Muslims.
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DN: The Mahdi reference also plays well in the Islamic world because of the revolt in Sudan, culminating in the defeat of Gordon at Khartoum in the 1880s, the classic jihadi dream come true.
It's also interesting that when the Caliph of Sudan was defeated at Omdurman, the whole Messianic Muslim movement collapsed. The fact is that such movements are motivated no differently from other revolutionary movements - success begets success, failure begets failure. And the more failures are handed out to the jihadis - in the form of large numbers jihadis sent to paradise - the less enthused they will be about taking on the Great Satan.
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I suppose most Rantburgers likely stop by at Kim du Toit daily as well, but if you want to help our military snipers continue to rack up totals like these--and they're probably the best and most needed type of soldiers for urban combat like this--check his site for periodic Walter and Adam updates. There's been a great outpouring of support from readers to help these guys get scopes and laser rangefinders--T-shirts will be available for order soon as well.
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Oh, and "Adopt-a-Sniper" is also another great site to help out these guys!
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Mr. Sadr? Why isn't it Reverend Sadr, kinda like Reverend Jackson or Reverend Sharpton?
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Why isn't it Reverend Sadr, kinda like Reverend Jackson or Reverend Sharpton?
I'll let our resident Islamists answer that one, As for why Misters Jackson and Sharpton are called "Reverend", you'd have to go way back in American history for that tradition.
At 8.55 in the morning on August 15, 2004, five minutes before the Indian National Flag was to have been unfurled at the main Independence Day parade venue at a district town in the northeastern State of Assam, a powerful bomb went off...13 people, including six school children, died and twenty-one others were injured. Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi, and the insurgency-wracked State's security establishment, held the separatist United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) responsible for the attack at Dhemaji, a perennially flood-ravaged town, 462 KM east of Guwahati, Assam's capital. The ULFA has been fighting for a 'sovereign, socialist Assam' since the group came into existence in 1979.
Strikes called by insurgents in Northeast India, coinciding with important dates in the country's national calendar have been a routine affair for nearly two decades now, and a similar call by the militants earlier this month did not surprise anyone. Groups like the ULFA would attack symbols of governmental authority like railway stations, rail tracks, oil pipelines, police stations or a security patrol around such important dates. The ULFA had clamped a ban on the screening of Hindi films from India's 'film capital' in Bombay Mumbai - Bollywood, as it is loosely called - beginning November 15, 2003, and had since carried out four earlier bomb and grenade attacks at theatres showing such films. But, the attack at the Urvi Theatre on August 14, 2004, came as a surprise because a Bengali movie was being shown. The incident has been projected in some quarters as a demonstration that the ULFA was bent on creating general terror in the State, and had given up its earlier strategy of hitting out at select targets alone.
Sultan said several elements of Time magazine's report on the meeting in Lahore were incorrect. Citing an interview with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf last week, the magazine said the three men and a fourth, a Pakistani American, met in the South Waziristan tribal region on Pakistan's rugged border with Afghanistan. It is considered a likely hiding place for Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and his chief lieutenant, Ayman Zawahiri. But Sultan insisted the meeting was in Lahore, where Khan was arrested July 13.
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