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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Bruised Armstrong Begins 7th Tour Stage (for Raj)
Posted by: .com || 07/10/2004 10:39 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It was a soft pavement...
Posted by: Raj || 07/10/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Didn't see that, .com. Thanks!
Posted by: Raj || 07/10/2004 13:36 Comments || Top||

#3  They're updating the same link - different story now than when I first posted it!
Posted by: .com || 07/10/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Haven't they figured out a method to detect the steroids that he's been taking for years? C'mon, get busy.
Posted by: gromky || 07/10/2004 13:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Silence, heretic!
Posted by: Raj || 07/10/2004 14:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Be gone, You Pagan.
Posted by: Evert Visser in NL || 07/10/2004 15:26 Comments || Top||

#7  How much does anybody want to bet that somewhere during the Tour either a spectator or a another rider will have an "incident" with Armstrong that results in his either dropping out or losing. If he loses on the up and up fine. But if there is something rotten in the state of denmark. grrrrrrrr
Posted by: cheaderhead || 07/10/2004 19:08 Comments || Top||

#8  something rotten in France? How do you detect it above the background "rotten"?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 19:37 Comments || Top||


Fiji Man Raised by Chickens
Hit tip littletinylies.com
A man who was raised by chickens is learning to live as a human for the first time in 32 years. Sunjit Kumar spent his life locked in a chicken coop in Fiji.
Betcha he is cocky!
...Thank you. I will be here later this evening for a command peformace.

After his parents died, Kumar’s grandfather muck4doo gained custody of him. But, his grandfather apparently didn’t know what to do with the young boy, so he decided to lock him inside of a chicken coop. There, Kumar picked up all the behavior and mannerisms of the other chickens in the coop.
Yeh. My parents tossed me in the gerbil tank...oh, ya, that’s a different story.
Years later, Kumar was discovered living in the coop and freed. Still, doctors didn’t know how to treat him, so the local rotary club is working to rehabilitate him.
Just tossem some oats.
Club president Elizabeth Clayton said, "He had imitated or imprinted with the chicken."
Well, that’s good news!
"He was perching, he was picking at his food, he was hopping around like a chicken. He’d keep his hands in a chicken-like fashion and he’d make a noise which was like the calling of a chicken, which he still has," she said.
You should of seen me after my gerbil run in.
Kumar is reportedly making remarkable progress having learned how to walk and eat from a plate.
Just recently he asked for a big plate of sunnyside up eggs.
"Mmm, I like to dip my toast in the yolks," he said.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/10/2004 7:08:29 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Plucked from the headlines . . . a compelling chicken-and-egg story that will have you cackling for more! Something to crow about! Two beaks up!"

--Pullet and Ebert at the Movies
Posted by: Mike || 07/10/2004 7:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Anybody scene that episode of South Park called "The Chicken F*cker"?
Posted by: Charles || 07/10/2004 8:57 Comments || Top||

#3  so the local rotary club is working to rehabilitate him.

Hey this bird is tough....!
should be
it's your Uncle Amos.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Raised with red junglefowl, eh? Weird.

"Betcha he is cocky!"
"Kumar's grandfather muck4doo"

LOL!

Classic.
Posted by: Korora || 07/10/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Charles, we prefer to call him the Chicken Lover.
Posted by: gromky || 07/10/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#6  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 07/10/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#7  charles chicken rape nothing to laff at.
ima not from fiji dragon fly. but this in interesting story. thanks ima use it! :)

antiwar just cuz he is make chilren isnt mean he is raise them. lota peples like that out there.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/10/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#8  hey! how in that happen! plese eraser one.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/10/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#9  Freshly arrived back home from their honeymoon, Sunjit Kumar's newlywed bride was asked about her husband. Her only reply was;

"Tastes like chicken ..."
Posted by: Zenster || 07/10/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#10  he said the same thing...
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 18:35 Comments || Top||

#11  Thankfully the "Tyson" buyer was late on his rounds to Fiji...
Posted by: borgboy || 07/10/2004 19:54 Comments || Top||

#12  hello "Mr. Kung Pao"
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 20:03 Comments || Top||

#13  Great news!
He's finally got a job.
Posted by: tipper || 07/10/2004 23:19 Comments || Top||

#14  Charles I saw it lol South Park kicks ass.
Re boy raised by chickens, surely his grandfather had raised the boy's mother or father? He must have had some clue as to how to look after a child?.
Reminds me of the wolf children in India (2 girls)
Posted by: Antiwar || 07/10/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||


Britain
Victory in Boar War
An historic statue of a wild boar is to be reinstated in a Derby park in a move that has been hailed a "victory for people power". The decision to put the Florentine Boar statue back into Arboretum Park follows months of public outcry. Controversy was sparked after it was suggested by a Derby City Council committee that the statue should be put elsewhere for fear of upsetting Muslims, who regard pigs as unclean.

The council had always hoped, as part of a £5.6m heritage lottery- funded project to restore the park to its former glory, to replace the statue with a replica. But in March the council’s minority ethnic communities advisory committee, chaired by Liberal Democrat council leader Maurice Burgess, instead recommended putting in a statue of the park’s architect, John Loudon. This prompted a tide of anger from residents in the area and from those who regard the boar as an integral part of Derby’s history.

More than 2,000 people signed petitions to retain the boar, which had stood in the park from 1840 until it was damaged in a Second World War air raid in 1942. And the groundswell of public opinion has now forced the council to decide that the boar should be returned to the park. Mr Burgess said: "Because of the overwhelming public response, including people from the Muslim community, we’re advising the council’s parks department to get a replacement boar.

"People have demanded it back - but I think they might rethink when they see how ugly the thing is. "I’m quite sure people will think it horrendous when they see it. Personally, I would have preferred a nice statue of Loudon, but we’ll listen to the people when there is overwhelming opinion."

People who called for the boar to be reinstated have welcomed the news. Deputy council leader Philip Hickson said: "This is a victory of common sense over political correctness. It belongs here and the row that blew up was completely unnecessary." Historian Maxwell Craven said: "It’s a victory for people power and a victory for common sense. I’m very glad." Arboretum ward councillor Fareed Hussain said: "I think the council should consult local people and after consultation they should do what people want. It’s a local park for local people and if the majority want the statue, then I will go along with that."
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/10/2004 6:36:46 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  YAY!

Congrats, Bulldog!
Posted by: Wuzzalib || 07/10/2004 20:39 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Cuba seizes Colombia ’drug chief’
Colombian police say one of the country’s biggest drug-traffickers has been captured in Cuba. Luis Hernando Gomez Bustamante, who is also wanted by the US, was arrested after entering Cuba on a false Venezuelan passport, police said. Mr Gomez Bustamante is an alleged head of the Cali-based Norte del Valle gang that is suspected of smuggling some $10bn worth of cocaine into the US. US officials had offered a $5m reward for information leading to his capture.
Fidel has to come to Washington to get it, though.
Colombian police chief Gen Jorge Daniel Castro told a news conference that Mr Gomez Bustamante, better known by his alias "Rasguno" or "Scratch", was arrested on 2 July. "He entered the island on a false Venezuelan passport. At this moment he is being held by the attorney-general in Cuba and we are involved in discussions to bring him back to Colombia," Gen Castro said. Cuba’s official media has not reported on his arrest. Mr Gomez Bustamante is accused of being one of the top leaders of the Norte del Valle cartel, which supplanted the notorious Medellin and Cali drug gangs in the early 1990s. If Mr Gomez Bustamante is returned to Colombia, he will join a long list of suspected drug-traffickers whose extradition is sought by the US government. The US Drug Enforcement Administration estimates his gang has sent more than 500,000kg of cocaine with an estimated value of $10bn from Colombia’s Pacific coast to the US through Mexico since 1990. The cartel, which is believed to supply between 30% and 50% of the cocaine entering the US, is also accused of hundreds of killings. In March this year, Colombian police re-established an elite police unit to go after the Norte del Valle gang. In a major operation, the special force confiscated some $100m in goods and property.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2004 12:21:19 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now comes the spectacle of extraditing this guy to the States. I can just hear Fidel going on and on with words such as sovereingty, jurisdiction, interference, imperialism, blah, blah, blah..
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 07/10/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Why on Earth did the Cubans arrest him? He's one of their allies. All I can figure is that he didn't pay his protection money in a prompt, timely manner.
Posted by: gromky || 07/10/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Cambodian King Pays Homage to Kim Il Sung (N. Korean ’Red’ News)
Cambodian King Norodom Sihanouk staying in the DPRK visited the Kumsusan Memorial Palace and paid homage to President Kim Il Sung Thursday on the occasion of the tenth anniversary of his demise. Visiting the palace together with the king were the queen, Senior Advisor to King Prince Norodom Yuvaneath, Cambodian Ambassador to the DPRK Oum Mannorine and other guests. The guests were accompanied by Kim Yong Nam, president of the Presidium of the Supreme People’s Assembly of the DPRK, Kim Yong Il, vice-minister of Foreign Affairs, and officials concerned. A floral basket in the name of Norodom Sihanouk was placed before the statue of the President. The king entered the hall where the President lies in state for perpetuity and paid homage to him in profound reverence. Norodom Sihanouk looked round orders and medals awarded to the President, the mourning hall and a train coach and a car used by him. The king wrote in the visitor’s book that he deems it a great honor to pay most respectful homage to Kim Il Sung and that he expresses deepest respect and admiration for Kim Jong Il for leading the DPRK to achieve steady great victories.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2004 3:01:07 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Whaddaya expect from somebody (else) who plays the saxophone?

Sihanouk has an interesting history... of repeatedly switching sides. Bio sketch here.
Posted by: Old Grouch || 07/10/2004 23:38 Comments || Top||


Europe
Romanian Premier Reshuffles Cabinet
Romanian Prime Minister Adrian Nastase has replaced five ministers in his cabinet. Nastase said before today’s announcement that he would make changes in the government and remain head of the Social Democratic Party (PSD), ending speculation he would step down as party boss after a setback in municipal polls in June. Romania holds presidential and parliamentary polls on 28 November, about a month before it must complete entry negotiations on joining the European Union. The changes involve the communications, agriculture, and labor ministers together with those responsible for public administration and relations with social partners.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2004 9:40:55 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Turkey moves to ban virginity tests
Turkish legislators are moving to ban virginity tests for women and introducing jail terms for those who carry out such examinations without legal permission, parliamentary sources said on Friday. A legislative amendment to this effect was agreed on Thursday at a session of parliament’s justice commission, which has been reviewing changes to the penal code as part of efforts to align Turkish law with European Union norms. The draft bans virginity tests except if they are demanded by a prosecutor or a judge as evidence in criminal cases, the sources said. If a woman is subjected to such an examination without judicial permission, the persons who have forced her to undergo the test and the medics who have performed it will be punishable with a jail term of between three months and one year.

Testing women and teenage girls has been quite common among the conservative and pious masses in Turkey’s rural parts, where virginity is seen as a matter of family honor. But in 1999 the justice ministry issued a circular restricting the practice to gathering evidence in court cases after five girls attempted suicide in a state-run orphanage after being forced to undergo the tests because they had returned late to their boarding house. Before the circular, school principals were able to force the test on girls suspected of engaging in premarital sex under disciplinary regulations requiring chastity for female students. Young women about to be married occasionally resort to surgery to repair damaged hymens so as to “prove” their virginity. If the amendment drafted by the justice commission is adopted, it will be the first time that the ban on virginity tests is included in the penal code.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/10/2004 5:30:30 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Along with forcing rape victims to marry their assailants, all the so-called honor killings murders and tripe like the above, I am not at all willing to accept Turkey as any sort of moderate Muslim nation. However secular they purport to be, there's just enough of the usual Muslim abuse and misogyny going on where they simply don't rate as being much different from Saudi Arabia or Iran.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/10/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#2  "WWVGD? "What Would the Vivid Girls Do?"
Posted by: borgboy || 07/10/2004 19:52 Comments || Top||

#3  can't imagine Vivid Girls have to worry about any virgin openings........maybe the left nostril?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 20:02 Comments || Top||


Anti-Semitism up in France
There were more anti-Semitic and racist acts in France during the first half of 2004 than in all of 2003, the government announced Friday. Out of a total of 230 racist acts against persons or property so far in 2004, 135 were of an anti-Semitic character. Threats and intimidation against Jews also made up almost three quarters of the total recorded. The figures are close to 2002 statistics and contradict a 37 percent drop in anti-Semitic acts last year. The proportion of anti-Semitic acts is exceptionally high considering how small a percentage Jews are of France’s ethnic minority population. Following a meeting Friday of the Cabinet Committee on Racism and Anti-Semitism, the government called on courts to hand out exemplary sentences to those who commit such crimes.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2004 10:19:35 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If all the Jews in France are shipped to Israel, would there be any more anti-Semitic acts in France?
Posted by: .France || 07/10/2004 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Speaking of anti-Semitism, will someone send OldSpook an E-mail about the Church's stand?
Posted by: Edward Yee || 07/10/2004 0:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Wonder what the percentage of these crimes are commited by Muslems?
Posted by: Raptor || 07/10/2004 8:39 Comments || Top||

#4  No .France because all of the baby killing kike Zionists will have left!

/sigh
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2004 13:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Let's see ... rising anti-Semitism in one of the few European countries to openly collaborate with the Nazis. Nope, didn't even wiggle the needle one tiny bit.

I hope France learns to enjoy being immersed in Islamic culture. After providing safe haven to maggots like Khomeni and Arafat's wife, plus cheerfully cutting deals with Iran and Sudan, they deserve all the Muslim unrest and crime imaginable.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/10/2004 14:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Re Frogistan's radical moslem problem: I wonder if the Phrench have realized yet that when the islamonazis take over, there'll be NO MORE WINE ALLOWED.

That's when the non-moslem uprising will start.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/10/2004 14:52 Comments || Top||

#7  at least the hygiene requirements won't change
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Frank G - Ouch!

But true.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/10/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Antisemite--

Will you move to this soon-to-be-Judenrein paradise soon? You'll love it--full of angry muslims who will be happy to give you a tournante and a beating.
Posted by: BMN || 07/10/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Michael Morre may be prosecuted for violating Canadian election laws
Probably won’t be, but you gotta admit it would be sweet!
Link courtesy of Kathy "Relapsed Catholic" Shaidle, Toronto’s gift to the blogosphere.

On a sunny day in June 2004, Michael Moore was ranting and raving. Yes, we know -- par for the course so far. However, what he was ranting and raving about was of significant importance. On this particular day, Michael, the self-proclaimed defender of the little guy, broke the very rules that are meant to protect the little guys, i.e. us Canadians.

See, according to Part 11, Division 9, section 331 of the Canada Elections Act, it is an offence for "[Any] person who does not reside in Canada [to], during an election period, in any way induce electors to vote or refrain from voting for a particular candidate unless the person is (a) a Canadian citizen; or (b) a permanent resident." Also according to Section 500 (3) of the same Act "Every person who is guilty of an offence is liable on summary conviction to a fine of not more than $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of not more than six months, or to both." This is why a few of us decided to get together and petition Canada’s Chief Electoral Officer.
Now this is a defence of Canadian soverignty I think we can all get behind.
Posted by: Mike || 07/10/2004 9:59:11 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think Meat Moore should be made a province or at least a territory.

AP could a Twin Otter do an emergency landing on Meats Moore?
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I think a Twin Otter needs a fairly level place to land. Moore is tilted way too far to the left.
Posted by: SteveS || 07/10/2004 18:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Oily surfaces don't allow braking
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#4  I'd like to land a wrecking ball on that fat f*cker.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/10/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Disabled Iraq Vet Deserved Verbal Abuse, Sez Moonbat Island, WA Op-Ed
From the July 10 edition of the Bainbridge Review. Not yet on the paper’s Website (www.bainbridgereview.com). Other stories from the 7/10 edition are online, not this op-ed. I’ll leave it to my fellow Rantburgers to decide if the editor is just being a candy-assed coward...
Keep Politics Out of Our July 4 Parade
Partisan speech inspires a partisan response. This is news? Yet fireworks are sounding, amid complaints that a young gentleman carrying a "Veterans for Bush" sigh was "harassed" by an announcer and subjected to verbal abuse from the crowd at last Sunday’s Grand Old Fourth of July parade. The incident has aroused indignation in some circles and attracted the attention of the Seattle media.
Not just the Seattle media, you leftist assnugget. Michelle Malkin’s gotten ahold of it now, and in about 48 hours, the entire fucking country is going to know your name. Hope to hell your home number’s unlisted, schmuck.
Have we islanders besmirched our own good name with a shameless affront to our veterans and our nation?
Sounds like it...
Well, the parade announcer in question assures all that her query to the gentleman as he marched past - reportedly, "What are you a veteran of?" - was an honest question, not intended as sarcasm or confrontation.
Bullshit. Too many witnesses, including a Vietnam vet who contacted the Seattle P-I and ignited this story. Someone’s gonna have video, too, so quit lying, you asshole.
Given that she lost her own father in a foreign war, we have to think her "Support the Troops" credentials are intact.
Oh, really? Then explain the "why" of Howard Zinn, WW2 bomber navigator turned "Amerikkka Is Evil" historian. Or, for that matter, explain John Effing Kerry...
But what of the invectives alleged to have been hurled by several folks watching the parade? While we’re generally opposed to rudeness—who isn’t?— we also take issue with the idea that you can taunt a crownd and not expect a heated response.
It wasn’t directed at his politics, numbnuts - it was directed at him because HE WAS A VETERAN.
And in these times, carrying a "Veterans for Bush" sign in a Bainbridge Island parade is obviously, knowingly and deliberately provocative.
Ah, a little long in coming, but there it is. "Free speech for me, but not for thee!"
This has nothing to do with "liberal hypocrisy" or "Bainbridge intolerance" or any such nonsense. if you disagree, just imagine what kind of reception "Peaceniks for Kerry" (or our own humble Women in Black) would get marching in the Armed Forces Day Parade in Bremerton (Info for non-PNW folks: Bremerton’s the site of a naval shipyard).
Probably a more civil reception than this poor disabled vet got from the "quality" folk of Bainbridge. As for the Women in Black - a hell of a lot of us remember that one of these "humble, gentle" peace creeps assaulted a counter-demonstrator last summer. In front of the Bainbridge cop shop, no less! Of course, no action was taken against her...
It’s not about the message - it’s about the context.
"Context", my ass. Like I said, you and your fellow oh-so-fashionable leftists trashed this kid for what he’d done for his country - NOT for his political beliefs. Spare me the phony pieties.
EFL. The rest of the article encourages the Bainbridge Island Chamber of Commerce (organizers of the 7/4 parade) to ensure the elimination of any and all political content from future parades.
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 07/10/2004 7:13:37 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The veteran has earned my respect and my shut-up for honorable service, his politics notwithstanding. Why didn't she figure this out?
Posted by: Edward Yee || 07/10/2004 22:10 Comments || Top||


Floriduh Scraps Felon Voting List; Bush Now Projected To Win Again
OK, some editorial license there...
Florida elections officials said Saturday they would not use a list of people believed to be convicted felons to purge voter rolls, acknowledging a flaw that left off some Hispanics.
Convicted felons, half of which are on the FSU football team...
The problem in compiling the list was unintentional, said Nicole de Lara, a spokeswoman for Secretary of State Glenda Hood. "Nevertheless, Supervisors of Elections are required to uphold their constitutional obligation" and will find other ways to ensure felons are removed from the rolls, Hood said in a statement. The decision was made after it was reported that the list contained few people identified as Hispanic; of the nearly 48,000 people on the list created by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, only 61 were classified as Hispanics. That was because when voters register in Florida, they can identify themselves as Hispanic. But the potential felons database has no Hispanic category, which excludes many people from the list if they put that as their race.
The gang that couldn’t count shoot straight.
The law enforcement list was compared to the voter rolls to determine who should be barred from voting.
You mean like all the absentee ballots from overseas enlisted people whose votes the Gore lawyers tried to disallow because they didn’t have cancelled postmarks on them?
The flaw in a state that President Bush (news - web sites) won by a margin of just 537 votes could have been significant — Hispanics in Florida tend to vote Republican.
Insert Michael Moore John Birch Society conspiracy angle here!
Elections supervisors in Florida’s 67 counties had begun reviewing the list of 47,763 potential felons identified by state law enforcement in May. The purge of felons from voter rolls has been a thorny issue since the 2000 presidential election. A private company hired to identify ineligible voters before the election produced a list with scores of errors, and elections supervisors used it to remove voters without verifying its accuracy. A federal lawsuit led to an agreement to restore rights to thousands of voters.
These guys could fuck up a cup of coffee.
Florida is one of only a handful of states that does not automatically restore voting rights to convicted felons once they’ve completed their sentence.
Posted by: Raj || 07/10/2004 3:11:58 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
These guys could fuck up a cup of coffee.
LOL, Raj. Priceless.

Florida is one of only a handful of states that does not automatically restore voting rights to convicted felons once they’ve completed their sentence.
Virginia is another. Let's keep it that way.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/10/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Golly, without the Dim felon vote and Theresa LePore's chad squad and with the military vote not being thrown out this time, Bush will win FloriDUH quite handily!
Posted by: Jen || 07/10/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Jen - Unfortunately, the Dims have the illegal Mexican alien vote locked up...
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 07/10/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Convicted felons, half of which are on the FSU football team... That's cause my Florida Gators are as clean as the driven snow. And we are going to wipe the NCAA's ass with FSU this year. Whooop, Whooop!
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/10/2004 21:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Preach it Dragon Fly,Go Gators:)
Posted by: djohn66 || 07/10/2004 22:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Orange! Blue!
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/10/2004 22:06 Comments || Top||


More fun with the NY Post "Gephardt" goof
Posted by: Mike || 07/10/2004 10:46 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Edwards to demand wehrgeld from terrorists
ScrappleFace
(2004-07-06) -- With the war on terror top-most in the minds of American voters, Democrat vice presidential candidate John Edwards today announced his plan to "drive up the cost of doing terrorism."

Mr. Edwards, who like Senate colleague John Forbes Kerry supported the presence of American troops in Iraq by opposing funding of that presence, said that as vice president he will ensure that the U.S. government sues every terror group whose faulty ideology results in injury or death.

"Terrorism is not a war issue, it’s a legal issue," said the first-term Senator, who built a fortune as a trial lawyer. "It’s just another defective product that hurts ordinary people. If you sue the maker of the product--tie ’em up in court for a few years--you increase their cost of doing business and jeopardize their ongoing operations."
Posted by: Korora || 07/10/2004 9:34:23 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The sad thing is, if you hadn't tagged it as a ScrappleFace parody, we'd never have known.
Posted by: Mike || 07/10/2004 9:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Good idea. After a concerted assault by the American Trial Lawyers Association terrorism will become uninsurable.
Posted by: Matt || 07/10/2004 12:08 Comments || Top||

#3 
"Terrorism is not a war issue, it’s a legal issue"
Sounds like the Clinton approach.

(Yes, I know it's Scrappleface. It still sounds like the Clinton approach.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/10/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Weregild, not wehrgeld.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/10/2004 22:07 Comments || Top||


Kerry campaign moves to distance itself from obscene rant at fundraiser
By Mark Z. Barabak and Matea Gold, Los Angeles Times.
EFL and to get to the good parts, requires registration.* A follow-up to a story posted yesterday afternoon.
Ken Mehlman, [President] Bush’s campaign manager, called on [John] Kerry [the haughty, French-looking caged hamster Massachusetts Democrat who once served in Vietnam] to release a videotape of Thursday night’s New York City fundraiser, which included risque humor and accusations that the president took America to war for his political benefit.
As the New York Post reported it:
Whoopi Goldberg delivered an X-rated rant full of sexual innuendoes against President Bush last night at a Radio City gala that raised $7.5 million for the newly minted Democratic ticket of John Kerry and John Edwards. . . . Kerry could be seen laughing uproariously during part of Goldberg’s tirade - and neither he nor Edwards voiced a single objection to its tone when they spoke to the crowd. . . . Edwards said it was "a great honor" to be there and insisted, "This campaign will be a celebration of real American values."
Mehlman’s counterpart in the Kerry camp, Mary Beth Cahill, sought to distance Kerry and running mate John Edwards from the incendiary language, telling reporters, "The views expressed by the performers are their own views." She did not directly respond when asked why Kerry had failed Thursday night to repudiate some of the comments directed at Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. "The performers have a perfect right to say what they said, but it is not what Sen. Kerry and Sen. Edwards would say, and they do not approve of some of the remarks made," Cahill said, without offering specifics.
"We do, however, approve of their $7.5 million."
She added that the Kerry campaign would not release a videotape of the event, which featured appearances by actors Chevy Chase, Meryl Streep, Paul Newman and Whoopi Goldberg, unless the Bush camp established the same practice for its political fundraising events.
If I were Bush, I’d call that bluff in a heartbeat.
. . . The Democratic fundraiser, an East Coast counterpart to the celebrity event held earlier this month in Los Angeles, pulled in $7.5 million for the Kerry ticket and the national party, a record. It also produced some of the more acrid commentary of the campaign.
. . . which is, unfortunately, all too typical of the moonbat left.
Chase whose career includes a failed late night talk show and the "National Lampoon Vacation" movies called Bush a liar and suggested that the United States invaded Iraq "just so he could be called a wartime president." Newman who employs a Big Five accounting firm to do his tax planning said Bush’s tax cuts were "borderline criminal," and singer John Mellencamp who hasn’t produced a good album since Scarecrow (1985) performed a song entitled "Moonbat River" that referred to the president as a "cheap thug."
So far, nothing you don’t see every day at Democratic Underground.
Even some in the friendly audience squirmed when Goldberg performed a comedy bit that employed Bush’s surname as a sexual euphemism.
But not the haughty, French-looking etc. . . . as the Post reported above, he thought it was funny.
At the end of the concert, the two Democratic candidates took the stage with their wives and Kerry thanked the performers, saying they had conveyed "the heart and soul of our deluded followers country."
. . . but then, the very next day . . .
Kerry made no public reference to the concert Friday as he campaigned in New York and West Virginia. But his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry,
shod in designer flip-flops by Georgio Armani ($225, Saks Fifth Avenue), told reporters on his campaign plane that while she enjoyed the music, "some of the words I would not have used."
"I would have said it in French, so I could have said ’pardon my French’ afterward."

Classy people, these Kerrys. Classy!

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Posted by: Mike || 07/10/2004 8:03:50 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh I get it!

Kerry felt they were representing american values before he felt they were not representing american values.......

Does anyone have this video? Not that it would ever be shown on the major news networks....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/10/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Olympik Update:
Whoppi ought to be a shoo in in for the 100 iq or lower shark jumping competition.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Or, as our dear vice resident Dick "Dick" Cheeney says: "Why don't you go fuck yourself?!!!"
Posted by: Anonymous5749 || 07/15/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||


White House wants apology for filth-laden Dem-fest
The White House is reportedly demanding an apology from the Kerry-Edwards campaign after Thursday night’s Manhattan fund-raiser - where comic Whoopi Goldberg targeted President Bush with a filth-laden monologue as the two top Democrats looked on and laughed.
At least they didn’t show up in blackface, ala Goldberg boyfriend Ted Danson a few years ago.
She started off by saying of Bush: "Anybody who could wave to Stevie Wonder isn’t fully there." Her tone went steadily downhill thereafter.
Nothing sparks an audience like a blind joke. Pig.
"Waving a bottle of wine, [Goldberg] fired off a stream of vulgar sexual wordplays on Bush’s name in a riff about female genitalia," reports the New York Post.
Makin’ Whoopi no doubt.
Goldberg reportedly said the country should "keep Bush where it belongs and not in the White House."
Goldberg’s own nominally private parts were publicly discussed in revolting detail by the aforementioned Danson, who managed to throw in some (more) vulgar racism in the process. All in good LLL fun, you see.
Private to Ted: any garage is too big for a toy car.
The Post wrote that Goldberg also "boasted that she’d refused to let Team Kerry clear her material."
Would it have made a difference?
"I Xeroxed my behind and I folded it up in an envelope and I sent it back with a big kiss mark on.....
The true face of the enemy.
....because we’re Democrats - we’re not afraid to laugh," she added.
FDR and Sam Rayburn are spinning in their graves.
The L.A. Times reported: "As the audience roared with embarrassed and horrified laughter, she retorted: ’C’mon, you knew this was coming. It’s what I’m trying to explain to people: Why you asking me to come if you don’t want me to be me?’"
JFK the Great: Marilyn Monroe.
JFK the Less: Whoopi Goldberg.
Lo, how the mighty are fallen.

With or without his prior approval, the obscene rant seemed to please top Democrat Kerry, who could be seen laughing uproariously during part of Goldberg’s tirade.
The earlier JFK would have had the slut arrested.
Neither member of the Democratic duo voiced a single objection after the aging comic’s ugly act. Far from being offended, Kerry thanked all the performers at the Radio City Music Hall event for "an extraordinary evening," adding that "every performer tonight ... conveyed to you the heart and soul of our country."
"which we will then sell to George Soros," he added.
For his part Edwards actually boasted that it was "a great honor" to sit through the X-rated show, adding, without a hint of irony, "This campaign will be a celebration of real American values."
Prisons, crack dens, and drunken frat parties also exist in America, but that doesn’t make them the repository of our values.
Other stars displayed their raw contempt for Bush, but managed to avoid drifting into Goldberg’s blue zone. Actress Jessica Lange branded the Bush administration "a self-serving regime of deceit, hypocrisy and belligerence," while Paul Newman said Bush’s tax cuts are "borderline criminal."
Lange stole my line about HOllywood! I still haven’t determined whether she was wearing panties under those cut-offs in King Kong, the most serious issue with which I connect this person. As for Newman, a randomly selected individual off the street might well know more about tax policy.
Comic actor Chevy Chase heaped scorn on Bush’s intellect: "This guy is as bright as an egg-timer," he said, adding that he supposed the president invaded Iraq "just so he could be called a wartime president."
Chevy Chase damaged his own health doing suicidal pratfalls to mock President Ford. Ironically, Ford was probably the best athlete of any President.
Chase also told the audience the most recent book Bush had read was "Leader of the Free World for Dummies."
That would be Walter Cronkite.
The Bush administration was reportedly so outraged by Goldberg’s raunchy routine that it now wants team Kerry to apologize, WABC Radio reported Friday morning.
Fat chance. FOAD, vulgar clowns and media whores who have hijacked the Democratic Party, I want my party back!
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/10/2004 12:45:50 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Goldberg reportedly said the country should "keep Bush where it belongs and not in the White House."

Guess she won't be voting for Hillary in '08.
Posted by: BH || 07/10/2004 0:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I wouldn't ask for an apology. At most, a deserved but wry comment would be best. Let this sort of thing get maximum exposure -- that's to the WH's advantage. But it's really more of a sad national disgrace than anything else.
Posted by: Verlaine || 07/10/2004 1:46 Comments || Top||

#3  These people are touting American values? Maybe in their small little world. but a world with Michael Moore, Al Gore, Whopi, and Dr. Dean is a sub-human one.
Posted by: Capt America || 07/10/2004 2:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Why bother about a failed black actress who has lips larger than her belly!
Posted by: Rep.123 || 07/10/2004 3:45 Comments || Top||

#5  So, we have an idiot in the White House, who accidentally liberated 24 million people in Iraq, and 28 million in Afghanistan. What is your excuse bright boy? Why did the Clintons, who are so much smarter than the moronic cowboy do nothing of the sort for 8 bloody years?

They can make all these kinds of remarks they want. It may get Kerry some money for the campaign, but its gonna turn more folks away. Having tons of cash won't buy the election.
Posted by: Ben || 07/10/2004 4:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Rep.123, why are you Arab Muslims such racist assholes? Is it all that inbreeding?
Posted by: ed || 07/10/2004 5:38 Comments || Top||

#7  "I Xeroxed my behind" Hey! A glam shot for Whoopie.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/10/2004 6:12 Comments || Top||

#8  This being a Dem-fest, was there actually anything positive said about Kerry & Edwards? Did they have anything positive to say about their own candidates? Didn't seem like it.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/10/2004 7:39 Comments || Top||

#9  If don't think the Prez should demand an apology. To me, that always looks petty & bitchy. Kind of like what the LLL does everytime a conservative makes an non-pc statement. Bush should just say he and his staff didn't bother watching the Dem fundraiser because they didn't want to be bored w/poor entertainment and has-been performers. Or, he should of said, "yeah, we caught part of it, it definitely cured my insomnia that night."
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/10/2004 8:14 Comments || Top||

#10  Hey Captn America,

As someone who shares your dislike of the Left and, increasingly, the mainstream of the Democratic party, let me just say this: Do not call your fellow Americans "sub-humans".

You can call them idiots, retards, moonbats and a long list of other colorful insults. But "sub-human" is too much. I'm not going to get into the reasons why now. Just don't do it. It's wrong on so many levels, very un-conservative. Leave the Nazi-talk to the Left.
Posted by: Prince Abdullah || 07/10/2004 10:07 Comments || Top||

#11  If don't think the Prez should demand an apology. To me, that always looks petty & bitchy. Kind of like what the LLL does everytime a conservative makes an non-pc statement.

I sorta agree. Probably would have been better had the Bush camp said, " We read about it; the content of the event speaks for itself."...and let it go at that.
Posted by: badanov || 07/10/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#12  My grandfather used "a brain as smooth as a cueball" as his ultimate epithet. A true gentleman - who merely stated the facts and let them speak for themselves. Perhaps I, too, should follow your advice, Abbie, and rise to such a level. I need a new vocabulary; to compile a list of pithy retorts which maintain a higher plane of civility, yet still cut to the bone, when that is required. Something akin to ass-sucking fuckwits in imagery but, y'know, classier.
Posted by: .com || 07/10/2004 10:24 Comments || Top||

#13  I agree with Abdullah. Let's leave the trash talk for Whoopi and the other followers of the haughty, French-looking caged hamster.
Posted by: Mike || 07/10/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||

#14  There is a thing I find incredible and it is that people could give any importance to the opinion of TV and movie celebs. Why on earth? Are thy more intelligent, better informed, more cult than your everage little guy? AFAIK none of them has a degree in rocket science, maths or econmy. Only actor "studies" who prepare little to understand the world. Or it is becauue they are more virtuous than us? People who routinely use drugs, cheat constantly, have a near 100% divorce rate (followed by remarrying with girls thirty years younger than them) and occasional raping of underage girls (that is Polanski, notice that it didn't prevent the showbusiness people to grant him an award) and we should kowtow in front of them? Nuts.
Posted by: JFM || 07/10/2004 13:24 Comments || Top||

#15  Comic actor Chevy Chase heaped scorn on Bush’s intellect: "This guy is as bright as an egg-timer,"

Like the characters you've played in the majority of your movies, Chevy? Freakin' hypocrite.
Posted by: Raj || 07/10/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#16  I agree w/JFM, there was a blog that listed how so many entertainers were pinging on the Bush admin but how none of the entertainers themselves have ever gotten through college. Their opinion is no better then the guy who works at the factory, the farm, or anywhere else. They're just so f*cking full of themselves they think people care what they think. There are some sheeple who do but those types are usually morons anyhow.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/10/2004 14:26 Comments || Top||

#17  I agree with Jarhead, Prince Abdullah and Mike on this one.
Posted by: Evert Visser in NL || 07/10/2004 15:24 Comments || Top||

#18  well then I agree with Evert who agrees with....
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 15:40 Comments || Top||

#19  Methinks this Dem sleaze fest may be the 2004 version of the Wellstone Memorial;
Talking about how this cash-for-cussing fundraiser "shows the heart and soul of America" while Whoopi swills wine and yammers about her bush (even Ted Danson with beer goggles regrets going there) is going to kill them in November!
I love it! Keep it up, Dimocrats!
Posted by: Jen || 07/10/2004 15:40 Comments || Top||

#20  The Whoopi Goldberg incident at the Democratic Fundraiser is an excellent example of why more than half the population of the U.S. is outraged.

Almost all comedians make fun of their present administrations and many of our beloved comedians such as Eddy Murphy & Lenny Bruce (just to name a couple of the many) have used vulgarity in their routines.

According to the Constitution this county was founded upon, it would have been perfectly acceptable for Whoopi to have delivered her routine on any national television program, especially given the trash, violence and vulgarity that the major national networks already air, even at prime time! At it was, Whoopi delivered her routine on her own turf at a Democratic Fundraiser, which was covered by the national news media obviously for the sole purpose of gathering anything they could use as ammunition against the Democratic Party and certainly not for the purpose of relaying bi-partisan information to the American people. Incidentally, I'm sick of listening to the major national news networks portraying the Democrats negatively and campaigning for the current Administration every chance they get.

How dare this Administration demand an apology from the Kerry-Edwards campaign because Whoopi Goldberg exercised her Constitutional right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

The American people need to wake up, get off the Prozac and get with the program. Every individual in this country should be outraged that our Constitutional rights, which make this country great, are being compromised and covertly stripped away from us.

Allowing the major corporations, national TV and radio networks to dictate to us what we should listen to and what we should say or not say can only lead to the disintegration and destruction of freedom and democracy for all Americans.
Posted by: Anonymous5908 || 07/27/2004 15:09 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Aristotle Onassis, the Palestinian Fatah, and Sirhan Sirhan
This is Part 3 in a series of articles written by me, Mike Sylwester, based on a new book, Nemesis, written by Peter Evans. (Part 1, Part 2)
In January 1968 David Karr arranged for Mahmoud Hamshari, also known as Dr. Michel Hassner, to be introduced to Aristotle Onassis. Karr introduced Dr. Michel Hassner to Onassis’s circle as an expert in aviation finance who would propose a restructuring of the debt of Onassis’s Olympic Airline. Eventually, Hamshari/Hassner, using money provided by Onassis, arranged for Sirhan Sirhan to assassinate Robert Kennedy.

David Karr had known Onassis since 1956. Karr worked in many varied jobs during his life, but at that time he managed a public relations company that specialized in helping companies that were involved in proxy fights in corporate takeovers. It might be more accurate to say that Karr was specialized in performing dirty tricks for his clients. He collected and distributed (or threatened to distribute) scandalous information about his clients’ opponents. By 1967 Onassis was using Karr for a variety of secret tasks; in that year, for example, he asked Karr to ask Soviet officials about possibly supplying crude oil for a refinery he considered building near Athens. Onassis’s closest associates wondered about that assignment, because Karr had no expertise related to the petroleum business or to the Soviet Union. Onasssis’ trust in Karr was a mystery.

At some point in his own past, while working as a movie producer in Hollywood, Karr had become acquainted with William Joseph Bryan, Jr., a local hypnotist. Bryan’s American Institute of Hypnosis treated people in the film industry for alcohol and drug additions, and he had served as the technical adviser on the filming of the movie The Manchurian Candidate. Karr gave Bryan’s phone number to Hamshari and advised him to visit Bryan. Karr later said he referred Hamshari to Bryan because Hamshari complained that he suffered headaches whenever he visited Los Angeles, which he did frequently during 1967 and 1968.

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In the summer of 1979 Karr contacted Leslie Linder, a former movie agent, whom Karr had known while he worked in the movie business. Karr wanted Linder to represent his proposed memoirs, which would include a revelation that Onassis had played a key role in the assassination of Robert Kennedy. Linder was interested and scheduled another discussion of the proposal again with the added participation of Oscar Beuselinck, a London lawyer.

In the meantime, Karr departed for a business meeting in Moscow, where he planned to open a big hotel. He remarked that he had all the evidence of the Onassis story in Paris, and he promised to call Linder and Beuselinck as soon as he returned from Moscow.

Karr was found dead in his Paris apartment on the morning of July 7, 1979. He had a fractured larynx, and blood was found on his pillow. A forensic examination concluded he had died of a heart attack, but his widow Evia Karr and his business partner Ronnie Driver insist that Karr was murdered by agents of the Palestine Liberation Organization.
To be continued.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/10/2004 9:43:40 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Sister-in-law describes bin Laden as driven, pious
Pious? He is a raving lunatic!
The only family member to talk openly about Osama bin Laden describes him as pious and merciless, a man so driven by his beliefs that he once denied a water bottle to his own infant son in the heat of the Saudi desert. Carmen Binladin, the terrorist leader’s sister-in-law, says bin Laden’s religious conviction was so admired by his family that she refuses to believe his relatives have stopped supporting him, as they claim.

In a new book and during an extensive interview with The Associated Press, she said a turning point in her life was a bin Laden family gathering in Taef, Saudi Arabia, one sweltering day in the mid-1970s. Bin Laden’s son began crying for water, she said, but the elder bin Laden refused to allow the baby to be given a water bottle, saying the boy should be fed water with a spoon because of Muslim teachings. "It was not as if he didn’t care about the child. But to him, the baby’s suffering was less important than a principle which he probably imagined stemmed from some seventh-century verse in the Quran," Binladin said in her book, "Inside the Kingdom." The respect her husband and Osama’s 23 other brothers accorded him by accepting his decision helped persuade her to leave Saudi Arabia, Binladin says.

"From what I have seen and what I have read, I cannot believe that they have cut off Osama completely," Binladin said on the eve of a visit to the United States to promote her book, to be published in English on Wednesday. She said some of Osama’s sons are still in Saudi Arabia, working for the Bin Laden Group construction company, which the 25 brothers inherited from their father, Mohammed bin Laden. "Osama is not the only religious (bin Laden) brother in Saudi Arabia," Binladin said. "And I cannot believe that some of the sisters (don’t support him.) They are very close to Osama."

She said there may also be ties between Osama and the royal family, despite his criticism of the royals for their support of the United States and alleged corruption within the government. "The bin Ladens and the princes work together, very closely," Binladen wrote. "They are secretive, and they are united. They have been inextricably linked for many decades through close friendships and business ventures."

Binladin married Yeslam, one of Osama’s brothers, in 1974 and lived in Saudi Arabia for nine years. She said she wrote the book mainly to explain to her daughters why she had returned with them to Switzerland. Her divorce from Yeslam is still unresolved after 14 years. The daughter of a Swiss father and an aristocratic Iranian mother, Binladin - dressed stylishly in a black leather jacket and jeans - spoke intensely with a French accent, smoking an occasional long, thin cigarette. Her book has already appeared in 16 languages and 18 countries. But she said she had held off publishing it in the original English because of fears about how it would be received in the United States, where she lived for a time in the 1970s.

She and her estranged husband intentionally spell their name differently than the rest of the family and Osama. But she has been reluctant to revert to her Swiss name since leaving Yeslam, saying she does not want to appear like she is trying to cover up her past. Her U.S. publisher is releasing the book under the name Bin Ladin, apparently to help readers recognize the name. She said her time in Saudi Arabia gave her an understanding of the closeness of the bin Laden family, which lived in the 1970s clustered in a group of houses on the outskirts of Jeddah. Women were required to wear a robe covering their faces and bodies whenever they went outside the home or encountered any males outside their immediate family. "One day, Yeslam’s younger brother Osama came to visit," she said in the book. "When the doorbell rang, I stupidly, automatically, answered it myself, instead of calling for the houseboy." She said she recognized Osama and asked him in. "But Osama snapped his head away when he saw me, and glared back toward the gate," she said. He made rapid back-off gestures and waved her aside, muttering something in Arabic, "but I truly didn’t understand what he meant." A nephew with Osama explained that he was forbidden to look at her face.

She said she doubted accounts that Osama had been a playboy as a teenager in Beirut and thinks the story may have been about another brother. "I never heard such tales about Osama," she said. "As far as I know, Osama was always devout. His family revered him for his piety." Osama started putting his beliefs into action during the guerrilla war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. "According to his sisters, who spoke of him with awe, Osama was becoming a key figure in the struggle against the Soviet monolith," Binladen said. "He imported heavy machinery, and manned earth-moving equipment to blast out tunnels through Afghanistan to house field hospitals for the fighters, and stocks of weaponry. He built dugouts to shield advancing Afghan warriors as they attacked Soviet bases. We heard that Osama had even taken up arms in man-to-man combat. Osama was making a name for himself." When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, Osama was outraged at the idea that U.S. forces might use Saudi Arabia as a base. He then started making "incendiary statements" against alleged corruption of the Saudi ruling family, and he was forced to leave the country.

She said none of the bin Laden sons measured up to their father, Mohammed bin Laden, who built a construction empire from the ground up. She said she still keeps Mohammed bin Laden’s photograph in her living room because she thinks her daughters deserve to know about their background.
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The Western (that is, Marxist) roots of Islamofascism
Posted by: Mike || 07/10/2004 07:14 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Inspired by Fanon, such figures as Lin Piao...and Pol Pot, justified revolution as a therapeutic act by non-Western peoples. Violence exposes the egoism and hedonism of bourgeois societies, and facilitates the creation of a new world based upon collective self-sacrifice. By destroying existing power structures they will regain the dignity lost due to Western oppression and materialism, selfishness, and immorality."

Excellent article, Mike. When I read "collective self-sacrifice", I got a chill. That is the grade of hate these folks run on.
Posted by: jules 2 || 07/10/2004 8:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Until the theocratic revolution that put Khomenei in power in Iran, most of the terrorism that had been perpetrated was done in the name of Marxist support for the "Palestinian" cause.

I remember vividly a video from back in the early 70s showing Vanessa Redgrave doing some sort of war dance with a band of raghead revolutionaries from the PLO (or PFLP, or whichever "liberation front" organization it was), whooping it up and waving an AK-47 around).

The only thing different today is that instead of Karl Marx leading the struggle for the ascendency of the poor, helpless proletarian victims of evil capitalist hegemonic oppression, the struggle is being led by "Allah" and his acolytes.

No change, really; it's still the ideology of poorhelplessvictimism: "We're not responsible for the fact that our culture sucks, YOU are!"
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/10/2004 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Rudyard Kipling wrote about crazy, murderous Wahabbis, well before Marx became fashionable.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/10/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Paul Berman's book Terror and Liberalism addresses some of the same issues in more detail. I reviewed it last year. He finds that communists and fascists are united in measuring the importance of a cause by how much horror you are willing to commit on its behalf; and plausibly finds their influence on the current crop of Islamists.

He also found english editions of part of In the Shade of the Qur'an if you want to know what Qutb is about (also see Ideofact's series on Qutb if you haven't already).

I grant you that Islam doesn't need Western influence to generate murderous sects: it seems to have a history of doing that.

Posted by: James || 07/10/2004 20:59 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
See-through mujras in Lahore!
Lahore ... The name says it all!
Cultural depravity seems the order of the day in Lahore. A city that was once famous for its historicity, monuments and culture, is now pegged as one of the seediest cities in South Asia. The free hand given to the city’s theatre owners by the Punjab Home Department through its new June 29 Standing Operation Procedure (SOP) has resulted in an aggressive and vulgar promotion of script dialogues and dances by female artistes. If a report of The Nation is to be believed, the vulgarity of the dances or Mujras has now crossed all acceptable limits of human decency and social propriety as the city’s administration stands by impotently, powerless to rectify the situation. Those who have watched the dance shows said they were highly vulgar, filthy in language and excessively provocative in gestures. There have even been several instances of "see through" dance sequences that have left the audience shocked with revulsion.
Allah save us all, a visible female body! Run Hassan, the sky is falling!
"The dances were more than mujras and female artistes exposed their bodies", the paper quoted one witness as saying, adding that the dialogues were unethical, abusive and beyond the scope of the script. According to The Nation , the Punjab Home Department has directed the Lahore City administration not to interfere in the performances, and only to report discrepancies.
The morals police have had to review the performance on a daily basis to better understand the dire threat this dance show represents to national security.
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Iraq-Jordan
Iraqi hard boyz having a falling out
Yes, yes, I know it’s long but it’s also quite good if true.
Tension appears to be rising between the homegrown Iraqi resistance and the foreign Islamist fighters who have entered the country to destroy the American military here. This is one reason, experts speculate, that Iraq has not had the kind of spectacular attack meant to spread terror and defy the American agenda for a long two weeks, even during the transfer of formal sovereignty back to the Iraqis.

Evidence has emerged in sniping between groups on Arabic television and Web sites, and in interviews with Iraqi and American officials, as well as members of the resistance and people with close ties to it. All speak of rising friction between nationalistic fighters and foreign-led Islamists over goals and tactics, with some Iraqi insurgents indicating a revulsion over the car bombs and suicide attacks in cities that have caused hundreds of civilian deaths.

But such friction does not mean there is a "submission by the resistance," said Dhary Rasheed, a professor at the University of Baghdad who lives in Samarra, a center for the resistance. "It is a phase of reconstruction and re-evaluation in order to push the operations out of the cities," so as "not to have innocent people killed."

Large car-bombings — thought to be carried out more often by foreigners, who make up a tiny percentage of the rebels — have "disgraced the reputation of the resistance," Professor Rasheed said. "And the resistance has worked just like the government has been trying to, to curtail the influence of the foreigners."

Routine violence continues at high levels across much of Iraq, and many civilians and American soldiers continue to die. And the big attacks have not necessarily ended, experts are quick to acknowledge.

But this week, the split took a cinematic turn when masked men calling themselves the Salvation Movement released a videotape containing threats to kill Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian militant who is suspected in the deadliest attacks here. American military officials say the Salvation Movement is composed of secular former members of Saddam Hussein’s Baath Party and is based in Falluja. Then on Friday, a second group of guerrillas released a similar message threatening Mr. Zarqawi.

The same day, a statement posted on an Islamist Web site, claiming to be signed by Mr. Zarqawi, lashed out against the Muslim Clerics Association, an influential Sunni group with strong ties to Iraqi insurgents. The statement accused the group of weakness for offering a ransom to prevent the beheading of Nicholas E. Berg, the American businessman killed in May.

"Some mediators tried to save this infidel, and offered us as much money as we want," the statement said. "But we refused, although we need this money to keep the wheel of holy war rolling."

Opinions among resistance fighters vary, but it is not uncommon these days to hear comments disdainful of the foreign fighters, like those from a young fighter in Falluja, whose relatives hold high positions in the resistance.

"Iraqis do not need Zarqawi or Al Qaeda members to help them," he told an Iraqi reporter working for The New York Times.

The split would seem to be welcome news to the new government of Prime Minister Iyad Allawi. His strategy for combating violence is to divide the insurgency by appealing to the patriotism of Iraqi fighters to reject the presence of foreigners who he claims do not care about Iraq itself. He is promising amnesty for some Iraqis, but threatening to crack down on those who do not accept it.

To that end, Mr. Allawi and other government officials say, he has been meeting with former Baath Party members in the resistance and tribal leaders to convince them that their interests and those of foreign fighters are not the same.

"We’re negotiating with what I call the noncriminals, those who never really were the hard core like Zarqawi and his aides and the Al Qaeda-style people," Mr. Allawi said in an interview. "And on the other hand, be very firm with the criminals and the assassins and the killers and the terrorists."

But many with ties to the insurgency caution against drawing clear lessons from this split or expecting Mr. Allawi’s strategy to succeed.

There is little evidence that the various parts of the resistance regard Mr. Allawi’s government as the legitimate sovereign leadership of Iraq. There are still 160,000 foreign troops on Iraqi soil, and American officials continue to hold sway. Until the last American soldier is gone, there will be no end to the resistance, say many Iraqis sympathetic to the insurgency.

"We don’t approve of Iyad Allawi’s government because he is an American agent," said one 25-year-old Sunni insurgent in Baghdad.

American and Iraqi officials say they hope that the Sunni resistance will eventually channel its disenfranchisement into political action and contest the general elections scheduled for January 2005 rather than continuing to take up arms. A move in this direction could further widen the rift with foreign fighters.

But the reality is that the Sunni Arabs are a minority in the country and will probably be a small or nonexistent presence in the highest offices after general elections, even though they have governed the area known as Iraq since the days of the Ottoman Empire. The insurgency could then continue its struggle, this time against a popularly elected government dominated by Shiites, who make up at least 60 percent of the population.

"We must prevent it from taking root," a senior American military official said, referring to the possibility that the Sunni insurgents will totally turn their backs on the political order created by United States and the United Nations.

American officials admit that they lack reliable intelligence about the resistance, even as to its size.

For months, American officials have said in public that the resistance has attracted no more than 5,000 people. But officials say privately the numbers are far higher, and a detailed report by The Associated Press this week quoted an anonymous military official saying that the resistance can call on upward of 20,000 people.

But even without detailed intelligence, the outlines of the resistance have been clear since it began gaining strength last fall. At the most basic level, the insurgency has been divided into the three parts that sometimes overlap: Sunni Arabs, in many cases led by former Baath Party members and former soldiers; Shiite Arabs led by Moktada al-Sadr; and foreigners from other Arab and Muslim countries.

The Shiites operate largely separately from the Sunnis and most foreign fighters, experts conclude. Sunni insurgents do not act under a central command, but rather are made up of independent groups that coordinate loosely and that have attracted many volunteers, these sources say.

The heavy fighting in April and May appears to have changed the groups’ relations and relative strength.

Mr. Sadr’s poorly trained militia appears to have been weakened greatly as it has taken on American troops in Baghdad and cities across the southern Shiite heartland, even as Mr. Sadr’s popularity has soared.

Meanwhile, the military position of the Sunnis and foreign fighters appears to have improved after American officials declined to mount a final military assault on Falluja, essentially allowing the creation of a haven for terrorists.

Some experts argue that the formation of the new government, even if it has not been accepted as legitimate, has still accentuated the difference in goals between the groups.

The Iraqi resistance seems to be fighting against the Americans largely in the names of Mr. Hussein and Iraqi patriotism or for the cause of getting Sunnis into positions of greater power.

The foreign fighters embrace a broader anti-American agenda, less specific to Iraq and concerned more with sowing destruction in the name of militant Islam.

However religious fervor does seem to bind some Iraqis and foreigners.

The establishment of the sovereign government may have set in motion a subtle but real shift in perceptions among some Iraqi rebels. Some argue that Mr. Allawi’s Baathist past — he was a hard-liner before he ran afoul of Mr. Hussein — is swaying some former Baathists toward loyalty to the new government.

Perhaps even more persuasive, American military officials say, is the new president, Sheik Ghazi Ajil al-Yawar, a Sunni who has spoken against the occupation. And even if Americans hold ultimate power, Iraqis head a government with broad authority, and the resistance is taking notice, several experts say.

"All these things taken together will pull in some Baathists, though not all of them," said Hamid al-Bayati, the deputy foreign minister. "We have to see how many of them will join in."

Though the Iraqi guerrillas have proved to be skilled warriors, it is the foreign fighters who are most often accused of plotting the larger attacks, which have hit Shiite mosques, crowded streets, political parties and foreign aid groups. In a single day of bombings, as many as 200 people have been killed.

Over time the deaths of those innocent Iraqis, American and Iraqi officials say, have angered many Iraqi resisters, and that is evident in several statements by groups involved with the resistance or close to it. There even seems to be specific opposition to the attacks on police stations, oil pipelines and electrical stations — all basic structures of a functioning state.

Asked recently if he advocated continued struggle against the Americans, Sheik Abdul-Satar Sattar al-Samarrai, a leader of the Muslim Clerics Association, said: "Yes. Honest and true resistance — that is away from chaos, killing innocents and policemen and sabotaging the infrastructure — should go on to kick the occupation out of the country."

The mystery remains whether the transfer of sovereignty itself has truly deepened the divide between Iraqis and foreigners and has led to the lull in audacious terror attacks since June 24. On that day, four days before the transfer of formal sovereignty, coordinated bombings in several cities killed more than 100 people. After that, American officials braced for an increase in attacks to protest the new interim government, but that never materialized.

Since then, insurgents have struck on a much smaller scale and have mainly confined their targets to American soldiers, Iraqi police officers and government officials and infrastructure.

Professor Rasheed said such changes were deliberate, with the resistance essentially giving Mr. Allawi the chance to prove that he is working in Iraqis’ interests and will try to decrease the visibility of American soldiers.

Other officials do not go that far. The senior American military official would not rule out the possibility that Iraqi insurgents were reining in the foreigners. But it is also possible, he said, that altogether the insurgents are adapting to circumstances and are focusing less on the immediate and more on the longer term.

"Maybe this is just a tactical pause," he said. "What is the next big event? The elections."
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Afghanistan/South Asia
Men held over ’caste gang-rape’
Eight people have been arrested in the central Indian state of Madhya Pradesh over the gang-rape of three women from the Dalit lower-caste Hindu community.
I guess those three women weren’t so "untouchable" after all.
The attack is said to have been revenge for a Dalit boy’s elopement with a girl from an upper-caste Yadav family. A police complaint alleges that a band of about 30 Yadav men raped the boy’s mother and two aunts, having first paraded them through the village.
I thought that any contact with Dalits left a higher caste person permanently unclean. I suppose baseless superstition can be applied selectively without any conflict in lack of judgement. Sheesh, what guys won’t do for a little meaningless casual sex!
Indian law forbids caste bias but has failed to eradicate rural prejudices. Many Dalits - once referred to as "untouchables" - have attained positions of power but the majority are still among India’s poorest, most victimised people.
Entrenched bigotry is always difficult to eradicate.

Violence fears
Tensions boiled over in the Madhya Pradesh village of Bhamtola when a 14-year-old Yadav girl eloped with a 19-year-old Dalit boy.
Quite obviously a complete outrage against all humanity.
At a village council meeting, the Yadavs demanded their lower-caste neighbours hand the couple over, says the BBC’s Mahesh Pandey from Bhopal. According to a police officer, the girl’s brother filed a complaint and called for the marriage to be annulled. His community members then allegedly attacked the Dalit boy’s house before gang-raping three of his female relatives on Thursday night. Security has been stepped up in the village and public gatherings banned amid fears that the incident could unleash a spiral of caste violence.
Perfect timing. Wait until after the victims have been attacked and then prevent any further retribution against the perpetrators.
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Home Front: Tech
New Kind of Space Junk...
via Rooters
Countdown to space funeral launch begins
Sat 10 July, 2004 02:33
By Ben Berkowitz

You don’t need $20 million (10.7 million pounds) to be a space tourist anymore. Just $1,000 will put you in orbit -- or at least a gram of your incinerated remains. After a three-year hiatus, privately held Space Services is poised to resume service in September launching containers full of people’s ashes into space, where they will circle the Earth for years to come. "We’re hopefully 65 to 90 days away from the largest ever space funeral launch," Charles Chafer, president and chief executive of Houston-based Space Services, told Reuters on Friday. Chafer said the upcoming launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California would carry the partial remains of up to 150 people. The launch will also be the first-ever flight of the Falcon, a low-cost reusable rocket developed with the backing of Internet entrepreneur Elon Musk.

Though cremation is increasingly acceptable in the United States -- U.S. cremation rates quadrupled from 1972 to 1996-- Chafer said one-third of his customers come from Japan, where cremation rates remain far higher. The cost for sending a larger container with 7 grams of cremated remains is $5,300. The company also offers a video of the launch and provides software that allows families to track the orbital location of their loved ones’ remains in real time. The last funeral flight, in September 2001, failed to reach orbit, but three prior launches did. The company pledges a free relaunch if the first attempt fails. Chafer said the families of 48 of the 50 people whose remains were on the last flight had opted for another attempt. "The key to the business is the routine access to space," Chafer said, adding the company planned to make three to four launches a year if the Falcon programme proves successful.
Humans.
Posted by: .com || 07/10/2004 10:52:04 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heh....
Most of my remains will be launched in the last flights of me rockets.... over the gulf of mexico.... it would be be crazy ironic if the rockets survived the landing, since they rarely do now.
:>}
Posted by: Shipman || 07/10/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I want to be buried on the Moon, with my epitaph scrawled on a shipping tag and pinned to the ground by a knife, but I'll never be rich enough.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/10/2004 22:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
10 yrs on: AZ Concealed Carry Law a Success
Posted by: .com || 07/10/2004 09:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Some twists and turns: there are a few spots in AZ that are "special enforcement zones", created by cities, that ban all weapons. However, I know one gentleman who trumped them with a written federal judge's ruling that he *had* to carry a gun--a document that he had requested, thinking ahead, in that he worked in one of those zones.

The second thing is "menace instead of use." When a licensed conceal-carry person pulls their gun, they understand that they *don't* want to use it, except as a last resort. So often, the perp they are holding runs away--which is preferable to gun play, as emotionally gratifying as most people think it is.

Interestingly enough, since the 1960s, police in the US are SWAT-tactic trained, so they constantly pull their guns--which leads to way too much gunfire. Most police killed in the US are killed by their own weapons, and accidental discharges are way too frequent.

However, licensed conceal-carry people operate on the "Old West", not SWAT rules, that you should never draw your gun unless you intend to shoot to kill someone. And THEN, even when you DO draw your gun, you are looking for an excuse to NOT fire it.

Concealment itself is an 'edge'. As long as your weapon is concealed, the perp cannot intimidate you as much as when you are unarmed. So you can be far more relaxed in a tense situation, trying other means to de-fuse it. This edge is lost when you expose your weapon, so you don't want to do this, unless things are getting way out of hand.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/10/2004 10:52 Comments || Top||

#2  the mere fact that someone may be carrying cuts down on crime
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Even the commie anti-gunners benefit from the "concealed carry" laws. I think that anyone who is "ANTI-GUN" should be required to post a 3x5 foot sign in their front yard saying...."THIS HOUSE IS A GUNFREE ZONE".
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/10/2004 14:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Ditto to Frank G.

I work for an hoplaphobic company, so don't carry when commuting (concealed or open). I would like to thank all the CCW holders and hope they don't mind My free-riding.
Posted by: jackal || 07/10/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm going to get my ccw in N.C. within the next couple months. I used to carry in Detroit (illegally at the time) where I had an interesting job before joining the Corps. Usually just brandishing the pistol grip of your weapon makes most thugs turn-tail. I never had to actually draw it.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/10/2004 19:45 Comments || Top||


Russia
Bush Leaving World in Better Shape than He Found it.
Edited for length.
THERE IS A tendency these days -- and I share it -- that urges one on to hit George Bush while he is down. But before he goes, permit me a word in his favor -- or, more accurately, his regime. Briefly put, the world is more at peace than when he came to power. The big powers have never been so relaxed with each other since the late part of the 19th century and the early years of the 20th, and the number of small wars -- ethnic disputes, tribal conflicts, and territorial disputes -- has been going down every year.

Through all the vicissitudes of Iraq, the Bush administration has managed to keep relations with Russia at their calmest and most fruitful since before the Russian Revolution. Despite the earlier tensions over abrogating the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, Bush appears to have won the trust of President Vladimir Putin that he is not up to a game to overcome Russia’s defenses against a surprise nuclear attack. Neither has US oilpolitik in the Caspian region proved as malevolent as was first surmised. Bush has leaned over backward -- too far -- to be understanding about Chechnya.

There are great gaps in Bush’s Russian policies -- his casual pace on nuclear disarmament and a lack of funds for making safe Russia’s old nukes and plutonium stockpiles, which could do more for nuclear proliferation than anything Bush has tried to do with Iraq, Iran, and North Korea -- but the lack of antagonism in the fundamental US-Russian relationship is remarkable.
snip and this next is the corker...
With the UN, despite early animosity, the United States has ended up supporting peacekeeping operations in a sustained way far more than Clinton ever did -- five operations in Africa in just the last year. And it has taken on the chin the recent vote in the Security Council not to acquiesce to the US desire for its troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere to be absolved from possible prosecution by the International Criminal Court.

If Bush loses the election in November, he will be leaving the world -- Iraq and Israel/Palestine apart -- a better place than he found it. Whom to thank? Colin Powell or the left side of Bush’s own brain? The historians will have to tell us, since the press has conspicuously failed to keep us informed.
Posted by: badanov || 07/10/2004 8:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lol! Thx bad! Is there some kind of idiot test required to write for Boston.com? What a silly-assed collection of pure opinionated quips wrapped around some decent facts and a boatload of spun speculative reality. Approaches Al Jizz in its arrogant substitution of snide opinion for logical reasoning.

The article's title and London-based little Jonathan's last sentence are the only things with which I roundly agree. Everything in-between is, well, substantially tainted.

Quoting Ambrose Bierce in a book review:
"The covers of this book are too far apart."

Funny, the only time I visit Boston.com is when I read an article posted in Rantburg. Must be a reason... Better you than me, bad!
Posted by: .com || 07/10/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  actually, Jeff Jacoby writes there - his stuff is first rate
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 10:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Token sane person?
Posted by: .com || 07/10/2004 10:55 Comments || Top||

#4  yep
Posted by: Frank G || 07/10/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#5  No, token conservative.

Oh, same difference. Never mind...
Posted by: Raj || 07/10/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Have we really made any progress?
Ronald Wilson Reagan
I am going to talk of controversial things. I make no apology for this.

It’s time we asked ourselves if we still know the freedoms intended for us by the Founding Fathers. James Madison said, "We base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self government."

This idea, that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man’s relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.

You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man’s age-old dream-the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path. Plutarch warned, "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits."

The Founding Fathers knew a government can’t control the economy without controlling people. And they knew when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. So we have come to a time for choosing.

Public servants say, always with the best of intentions, "What greater service we could render if only we had a little more money and a little more power." But the truth is that outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector.

Yet any time you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we’re denounced as being opposed to their humanitarian goals. It seems impossible to legitimately debate their solutions with the assumption that all of us share the desire to help the less fortunate. They tell us we’re always "against," never "for" anything.

We are for a provision that destitution should not follow unemployment by reason of old age, and to that end we have accepted Social Security as a step toward meeting the problem. However, we are against those entrusted with this program when they practice deception regarding its fiscal shortcomings, when they charge that any criticism of the program means that we want to end payments....

We are for aiding our allies by sharing our material blessings with nations which share our fundamental beliefs, but we are against doling out money government to government, creating bureaucracy, if not socialism, all over the world.

We need true tax reform that will at least make a start toward I restoring for our children the American Dream that wealth is denied to no one, that each individual has the right to fly as high as his strength and ability will take him.... But we can not have such reform while our tax policy is engineered by people who view the tax as a means of achieving changes in our social structure....

Have we the courage and the will to face up to the immorality and discrimination of the progressive tax, and demand a return to traditional proportionate taxation? . . . Today in our country the tax collector’s share is 37 cents of every dollar earned. Freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp.

Are you willing to spend time studying the issues, making yourself aware, and then conveying that information to family and friends? Will you resist the temptation to get a government handout for your community? Realize that the doctor’s fight against socialized medicine is your fight. We can’t socialize the doctors without socializing the patients. Recognize that government invasion of public power is eventually an assault upon your own business. If some among you fear taking a stand because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government, recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile hoping he’ll eat you last.

If all of this seems like a great deal of trouble, think what’s at stake. We are faced with the most evil enemy mankind has known in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no fiscal and economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodation.

They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong. There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right. Winston Churchill said that "the destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits-not animals." And he said, "There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty."

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/10/2004 3:23:08 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  1964. Ronald Wilson Reagan.

And they ring as true today as ever before.

The nation needs another Reagan.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/10/2004 3:24 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Egyptian Prime Minister, Cabinet Resigns
President Hosni Mubarak's cabinet resigned Friday and the longtime leader appointed a relative outsider as prime minister, further consolidating his power at a time of growing calls for political, social and economic change. State-run television interrupted its programming to report that Mubarak named Ahmed Nazief, a 52-year-old former state minister for communications and information, to replace the prime minister of the past four years, Atef Obeid, 72. Mubarak's choice follows a pattern of appointing technocrats - rather than more politically inclined lawmakers - to the post, a situation critics say is designed to ensure political power is not placed into the hands of a potential challenger to his presidency. The 76-year-old Mubarak, a close U.S. ally and president since 1981, has no chosen successor. His length of time in office and concerns about his health - he recently had surgery to repair a slipped disc - have fueled calls for him to designate a replacement. Many believe he is grooming his son, Gamal, to take over, though both deny this.
"Lies! All lies!"
The resignations of Obeid and 32 ministers were announced after an emergency cabinet meeting late Friday. It was the first cabinet reshuffle since July 2002, but had been expected for some time. Obeid's ministers had been blamed for failing to address the needs of this Arab country's beleaguered economy, which during the past four years has suffered from its floating of the Egyptian pound, a shortage of foreign currency and a drastic lack of exports against rising imports.
Yeah, the new guys will be so much better at this.
Also, despite much publicized attempts to stamp out Egypt's culture of graft, the government has been unable to fully rid its bureaucracy of corruption.
"fully"?
Mubarak is expected to replace most of his longtime ministers and closest aides with new faces, said a defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official said Mubarak gave his new prime minister 24 hours to form a cabinet. As prime minister, the Cairo-born Nazief will run Egypt's day-to-day activities. Fluent in English and French, he graduated from Cairo University's engineering faculty in 1973 and has a doctorate in computer science from a Canadian university. He was a professor at Cairo University before becoming executive manager of the information center within Egypt's Council of Ministers. First appointed to the cabinet in 1999, Nazief is credited with making major advances in developing Egypt's fledgling information technology sector.

Yet political commentators and activists - many of them urging Mubarak to make sweeping changes to Egypt's ailing economy and suffocating human rights climate - expressed disappointment with the appointment of yet another technocrat. Abdel Halem Qandel, a prominent opposition figure and editor of Egypt's pan-Arabist al-Araby newspaper, criticized Mubarak's choice of Nazief and described the changes as "cosmetic." "Mubarak replaced an aging prime minister with a young face, and that is the only change that took place," Qandel told The Associated Press. "Isn't Mubarak himself an aging president and should be replaced by a new face?"
He said just prior to disappearing.
Abuleila Madi, a leading moderate Islamist, said the government's policies - and not necessarily the ministers implementing them - were to blame for Egypt's stagnation, which has been marked by a crippling liquidity crunch and a Kerryish lurching economic reform program. "For 50 years now there has been no political mobility," Madi told AP. "We have no political elite from which we can choose figures who enjoy the skills and experiences that would enable them to hold political posts such as the prime minister." Nabil Abdel Fatah, political analyst at the government-funded Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies, said Mubarak needed to make "drastic change ... in his eternal policy of appointing technocrats while avoiding politicians." "Even if the most intelligent computer science expert was chosen to be prime minister, such a decision marks a very poor choice for such a sensitive post which needs political skills more than technical ones," he added. One positive point he noted, however, was the resignation of Egypt's old guard and the possible replacement by "a new generation who was never given space before."
Posted by: Steve White || 07/10/2004 12:34:52 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Great comments. Are you the same Steve White who posted that excellent comment over at Bros. Judd WRT the Fallujah issue? That was terrific and comprehensive.
Posted by: Verlaine || 07/10/2004 1:53 Comments || Top||

#2  US should hurry and find another puppet !
Posted by: Egypt || 07/10/2004 3:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Egypt, Rep.123, Masked Muslim Felcher,

We are in no hurry. We prefer to take our time and screw you nice and slow. It's fun watching you make faces and squirm in agony.
Posted by: ed || 07/10/2004 5:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Watch your back. The tower might crash on you ...
Posted by: Egypt || 07/10/2004 6:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Fluent in English and French,

That will come in helpful when Chiraq decides to employ others to help screw the US secure new oil and trade contracts seek alliances in the Arab world.
Posted by: Raj || 07/10/2004 13:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Yes, I am, and thanks. Most of what I post elsewhere I learned here on Rantburg!
Posted by: Steve White || 07/10/2004 14:34 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
67 tons of tank going 67 MPH?
Registration required.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2004 00:01 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Leclerc?
Posted by: Valentine || 07/10/2004 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  It should help our troops in Iraq outrun their enemies …
Posted by: Rep.123 || 07/10/2004 3:49 Comments || Top||

#3  That was a LeClerc. But a LeClerc weighs about 55 tons, very light for a western MBT. The M1A1-HA and M1A2 is 67-70 tons and the Challenger2 is 69 tons.

Most tank speed is governed to about 40-45mph; otherwise the risk of throwing a track and becoming a sitting target is too great. It's possible the LeClerc was doing 67mph. Supposedly the M1 will do over 60 and will keep accelerating until it throws it's tracks.

Rep.123, don't you worry your little Muslim head about the US tanks running away. The US has nothing to worry about since the combined Arab manhood has repeatedly come up short even against a few million Israelis. The fiercest opposition encountered in Iraq has been a sand storm, not Arab firepower, ingenuity or courage. What is even more laughable is that Iraq was considered the most formidable Arab army. So go crawl back in your mud hut and beat your woman; the only chance you have of ever winning any fight.
Posted by: ed || 07/10/2004 5:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Hello Vietnam !
Posted by: Rep.123 || 07/10/2004 5:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Yes, the VietCong and NVA were defeated on the battlefield but Leftists such as John Kerry betrayed the Veitnamese people. So there is hope for you after all, not in the field of battle, but in the alliance of Socialists and IslamoNazis. But such Socialist and Nazi alliances always turn on each other. The canibalism will be delicious to see.

Hello 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1980, 1991, 2003, and you can soon add 2005 to the list.
Posted by: ed || 07/10/2004 6:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Ed, Here, here, ditto!!
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/10/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||



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Two weeks of WOT
Sat 2004-07-10
  Forbes (Russian edition) editor shot dead in Moscow street!
Fri 2004-07-09
  Al-Tawhid threatens to kill Bulgarian hostages
Thu 2004-07-08
  Missing Marine at U.S. Embassy in Beirut
Wed 2004-07-07
  5 dead in LTTE suicide bombing
Tue 2004-07-06
  Iraqi boomer kills six 14 at funeral
Mon 2004-07-05
  Hussein family funding the insurgency
Sun 2004-07-04
  6 hurt in Kabul work accident
Sat 2004-07-03
  Iraqi oil-for-food investigator bumped off
Fri 2004-07-02
  Jordan may send troops to Iraq
Thu 2004-07-01
  10 al-Houthi hard boyz bumped off
Wed 2004-06-30
  Sammy to face death penalty
Tue 2004-06-29
  US expels 2 Iranians; videotaping transportation and monuments in NYC
Mon 2004-06-28
  Iraqi handover of power takes place 2 days early
Sun 2004-06-27
  10 Afghans Killed After Vote Registration
Sat 2004-06-26
  Jamali resigns


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