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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Mystery as ancient American mountain town is ravaged by widespread illness and cancer amid sinister claim about cause
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] A Native American reservation that straddles Nevada and Idaho has been left reeling after an widespread outbreak of illness and cancer diagnoses.

For years the Duck Valley Indian Reservation believed the community's health and environmental troubles were linked to two Bureau of Indian Affairs buildings where fuel and herbicides were stored, the Associated Press reported.

But the recent discovery of decades-old documents has sent shock waves through the Shoshone-Paiute tribes and raised fears the US government played a greater role in contaminating the environment than they thought.

Owyhee is the sole town on the reservation, which is home to only around 1,800 residents. Yet horrifying figures show the tribal health clinic has logged more than 500 illnesses that could be cancer since 1992 — and is currently trying to break down the data to find the most common types.

Cancer is one of the leading causes of death in Native American communities. Native Americans are more likely to get liver, stomach, kidney, lung, colorectal and breast cancers than non-Hispanic white people, according to the CDC.

But the startling number of cases on this one reservation nestled between the deep Nevada canyons and flat Idaho plains has raised major concerns.

Earlier this year members of the tribes gathered to mourn yet another loss of a loved one to cancer. Marvin Cota, a highly regarded tribal chairman, lived a healthy life for decades. When he was finally diagnosed, it was too late.

He was one of many tribal members who worked in the BIA building before falling ill.

In 1985, at the now-abandoned irrigation shop, some 8,000 gallons of heating oil leaked from a pipeline next to the highway.

Samples taken from soil and floor drains around the building revealed a mix of the hazardous chemicals that were stored inside, including waste oil, arsenic, copper, lead and cadmium, along with the two herbicides that make up Agent Orange.

Racheal Thacker, a pesticides and solid waste technician with the tribes, said residents at the time were likely unaware of the dangers related to handling the chemicals stored there.

But resident Sherry Crutcher, who's late husband Robert worked in the BIA maintenance building across from the irrigation shop, recalled how he wore a uniform that reeked of chemicals after spraying willow trees and cleaning oil wells.

Crutcher, a teacher and former natural resources director for the tribes, said employees asked for cancer screenings. She claimed the BIA did the tests and told the workers the results were negative but didn’t share the records.

She said she asked her husband if workers had any protection and was always told no. He died in 2022 from an aggressive form of brain cancer at age 58, she said.

In 1995 the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) banned employees from dumping gasoline, batteries and other substances onto the dirt floors of the buildings - and warned that it could result in soil contamination, threaten the groundwater supply endanger community members' health.

But many believed the damage had already been done and thought this was the main reason behind the outbreak of illness and cancer in their community.

Yet documents from 1997, obtained by AP, contain a BIA employee's recollection of using at least one Agent Orange herbicide about 20 years earlier.

The employee said they used Agent Orange to clear foliage from the canals running through the reservation - the same canals where Duck Valley residents swim and use for farming.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 00:22 || Comments || Link || [11136 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My wife and I, with our two-year old son and my mother-in-law, , visited Silver City, Idaho in 1978. It's in the middle of this sinister mystery.

My mother-in-law passed away a few years ago, but probably not related to this sinister mystery.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/16/2024 1:10 Comments || Top||

#2  There are some ethnic practices among native Americans that have problematic health consequences. One is the practice of incorporating wild plants into baths, beds and so forth. Another is where people go into heated tents and sweat for hours without enough liquids. There are others. Of course I'm not sure how many people do this and what the exact practice is (doubt anyone is) but this may account, at least to some degree, for high cancer rates.
Posted by: Lord Garth || 09/16/2024 2:24 Comments || Top||

#3  The big mystery is what's taken over the control of rantburg today.
Posted by: Fairbanks || 09/16/2024 3:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Probably another SQL attack, Fairbanks, whatever that is. We deleted the comments and left messages for Fred and badanov, our IT team, so they should get on it first thing in the morning.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/16/2024 4:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Back. And blocked.
Posted by: badanov || 09/16/2024 4:27 Comments || Top||

#6  TW, Fred, and Bad: Thanks for all your work repelling this DS attacks.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 6:50 Comments || Top||

#7  There is a Silver City in New Mexico.
Was there in 1985 overnight. I am 82
Posted by: crazyhorse || 09/16/2024 7:38 Comments || Top||

#8  ...the alternative 'artist' community after the Lefties swarmed Santa Fe, driving out the artists who couldn't afford to live there anymore.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/16/2024 9:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Jab status
Posted by: Elmoling Glusons1695 || 09/16/2024 21:26 Comments || Top||


Government Corruption
2 former FDNY chiefs arrested by feds: sources
[NY Post] Two retired New York City Fire Department fire chiefs were arrested by the feds early Monday for allegedly accepting more than $190,000 in bribes to allegedly help fast-track safety inspections and reviews, officials said.

Anthony Saccavino and Brian Cordasco, who worked in the FDNY’s Bureau of Fire Prevention, were nabbed on bribery, corruption and false statements offenses as part of the long-running corruption probe, according to an indictment unsealed in Manhattan federal court.

They are accused of "soliciting and accepting tens of thousands of dollars in bribe payments in exchange for providing preferential treatment to certain individuals and companies with matters pending before the FDNY" from 2021 through 2023.

"For nearly two years, Saccavino and Cordasco misused this authority for their own financial gain," the indictment alleged.

The arrests come after the two former chiefs had their homes raided by the FBI and city investigators back in February.

The FDNY’s Brooklyn headquarters was also searched at the same time.

At the time of the raids, both Saccavino and Cordasco allegedly lied to federal investigators to "conceal their involvement in the bribery scheme," according to the indictment.

The nearly two-year scheme involved roughly 30 different projects across the Big Apple — including fire alarm checks at apartment buildings, restaurants, bars and hotels, court filings state.

They have both been charged with conspiracy to solicit and receive a bribe, solicitation and receipt of a bribe, honest services wire fraud, conspiracy to commit honest services wire fraud, and making false statements.

Federal officials with the Southern District of New York will be holding a news conference on the arrests later Monday morning.
Posted by: Frank G || 09/16/2024 11:08 || Comments || Link || [11136 views] Top|| File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats

#1  Corruption in NYC. I am shocked.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/16/2024 12:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Saccavino and Cordasco

Not traditional Chinese names.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 13:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Anthony Saccavino and Brian Cordasco

I'm thinking 4th generation Gambino or Lucchese family members who migrated to other pastures.
Posted by: Raj || 09/16/2024 18:31 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker is asking how suspect Ryan Wesley Routh was able to get into position where he could have fired at Donald Trump, and whether he had inside help.
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] Trump gunman Ryan Routh may have had 'inside' information on his whereabouts claims former FBI official.

Suspect was around the golf course treeline for 12 hours, per charges.

Donald Trump's alleged would-be assassin apparently knowing when he would be playing golf raises the prospect he could have been tipped off, a former FBI assistant director has told DailyMail.com.

In the hours since a Secret Service agent fired on a man authorities said was attempting to assassinate the former president, law enforcement officers have been scooping up information on suspect Ryan Wesley Routh. Still unanswered is how he was able to conceal himself in shrubbery with an AK-47 near the 6th hole of the Trump International golf course in West Palm Beach.

Trump's golf schedule is not made public in advance – although the game is a regular pass-time for the former president.

'If you're thinking outside the four corners here, there could be somebody at that club – at Mar a Lago, or at the golf club – that just doesn't like him and has different political views. And, you know, they could have fed this information,' former FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker told DailyMail.com, describing one possible scenario or motive.

He said Routh could have received information on Trump's movements either deliberately or by someone who shared it unwittingly. Or, Routh may have been staking out and studying Trump's movements to prepare for his deed, putting his knowledge to use, he said.

'I mean, there's only a couple of possibilities here. One is this guy had inside information, and having enough time to get to that fifth hole – that location between the fifth and sixth hole, and get himself set up.'

'So if somebody tipped them off, at the time Trump went off the first tee, it would have been about an hour and 15 hour and 20 minutes before he got to that that spot.' That would have provided 'plenty of time,' he said, sketching out the possibility.

'The other possibility is that he's been surveilling the former president, and either a watching Mar-a- Lago as to when when he leaves, or actually physically following him and his vehicle and determining exactly where he went,' he said.

'The third possibility is he got lucky. I don't think that's the case. I think it's one of the first two, and neither one of them has good implications,' he concluded.

The criminal complaint in South Florida states that Routh was around the tree-line area for nearly 12 hours, based on cell phone data – information that could cut against the idea he had specialized help, or suggest he only had general information.

Routh is not believed to have any specialized training, and his far-fetched efforts to try to involve himself in Ukraine's defense against Russia appear to have been flat-out rejected. However there are indications of preparation and forethought, according to some of the initial evidence.

One relates to the backbacks containing ceramics which could provide protection from gunfire.

They were 'hanging strategically from the chain link fence ... as if to protect him when he's standing and he's using the chain link fence as a mount. And it looked to me like he was intending to take a shot at the former President as he drew parallel to him.'

One official investigating the case went even further – raising the possibility of a 'conspiracy' without identifying any leads about a potential accomplice.

'How does a guy from not here get all the way to Trump International, realize that the president – former president of the United States is golfing and is able to get a rifle in that vicinity? I think that's a question the FBI and Secret Service are laser focused on today,’ said Martin County Sheriff Will Snyder in a televised briefing Monday.

'Is this guy part of a conspiracy? Is he a lone gunman,’ Snyder wondered.

Among the questions that Swecker wants probed is whether the suspect set up his sniper's nest quickly or 'whether he's been planning this and he set it up, and scoped it out ahead of time.'

He previously raised concerns to DailyMail.com about excuses provided by former Secret Service head Kimberly Cheatle following the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania.

In the proceeding hours, a raft of officials have revealed information about security protocols for protecting the president.

'At this level that he is at right now, he's not the sitting president. If he was we would have had this entire golf course surrounded. But because he is not, the security is limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible,' said Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw

'I would imagine that the next time he comes to a golf course, there’ll probably be a little bit more people around the perimeter. But the Secret Service did exactly what they should have done,' he said.

Said Swecker, 'I guarantee you, right now the FBI is going to muzzle that sheriff, and they're not going to talk much about details, because they're in the protection mode, particularly the prosecution. And the US Attorney's office is going to clamp down on the bureau. The bureau is going to clamp down on the sheriff, and we're not going to get a whole lot of detail, despite the fact that they know a lot,' he said.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 13:50 || Comments || Link || [11137 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The position he chose seems pretty obvious -- at a fence line obscured by shrubbery, accessible to any tourist or passerby. WHEN he got into position, that's the rub and raises the question of inside help.
Posted by: Gromble+Dribble4342 || 09/16/2024 15:07 Comments || Top||


#3  Easy: his FBI handler put him there.
Posted by: Nguard || 09/16/2024 17:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Trump must break up his predictability; times, routes, events, modes of travel, etc. Patterns kill.

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 18:44 Comments || Top||


ABC Whistle-blower Releases Affidavit
[X]
Posted by: Mercutio || 09/16/2024 08:56 || Comments || Link || [11133 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought the whistle blower got whacked?
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/16/2024 12:47 Comments || Top||


#3  Wasn't this hinted a few days ago, where the attorney for the whistleblower announced it'd be revealed by the weekend?

Prolly just a nothingburger, anyway...
Posted by: Bobby || 09/16/2024 12:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Wasn't this hinted a few days ago

OBE
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 13:07 Comments || Top||

#5 

From a posting of the affidavit on AoS this morning.

https://ace.mu.nu/

Posted by: NoMoreBS || 09/16/2024 14:07 Comments || Top||

#6  "Kamala Harris's sorority sister Linsey Davis..."
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 17:05 Comments || Top||


In 2023 interview, alleged Trump plotter decried hurdles to get foreign soldiers for Kyiv
[Semafor] When Ryan Routh spoke to Semafor on March 7, 2023, he was frustrated with the Ukrainian government for which he’d traveled around the world to support.

The Ukrainians, he complained, were being too rigid about admitting foreign soldiers of dubious qualifications, including a group of Afghan commandos who were facing skepticism and bureaucratic roadblocks in Kyiv.

"Ukraine is very often hard to work with. Many foreign soldiers leave after a week in Ukraine or must move from unit to unit to find a place they are respected and appreciated," he told Semafor. He’d been "yelled at" every time he suggested they tap Afghan commandos. "They’re afraid that anybody and everybody is a Russian spy," he said with frustration.

Now a man widely reported to be Routh, 58, is in custody for what the FBI described as an apparent attempt to assassinate former President Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

When Semafor talked to him, Routh was one of a wave of American volunteers in Ukraine, the self-appointed director of a group he’d started called the International Volunteer Center. He was, even by the standards of that frantic moment, a bit over the top, a Ukrainian involved in the effort told us at the time. But he was also, they said, authentically involved in the efforts to bring in foreign troops, and we quoted him in a story about the Afghan fighters.

On X, he frantically tweeted at President Volodymyr Zelenskyy with his ideas — for instance, "to use Independence Park to create a tent city of all the foreigners here in support to get thousands more foreign civilians to come and support Ukraine." Zelenskyy did not appear to respond.


Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said Routh’s "AK-47 style weapon with a scope" had been recovered at the scene, according to the Associated Press.

Routh was not the focus of our 2023 story, and we spoke with him for less than half an hour. He said he had spent 5 months in Ukraine working on his center, and when we spoke to him he was working to find a house in Pakistan to temporarily lodge Afghans hoping to fight in Ukraine. "The International legion recently tightened the hiring standard and has been firing many volunteer soldiers," he said. But he’d recently gotten the good news that one Afghan soldier, Reza, had been accepted by the Ukrainians.

Our conversations painted a picture of a man who had committed his life to the struggle for Ukraine — but whose own allies also viewed him with skepticism.

"I have had partners meeting with [the Ministry of Defense] every week and still have not been able to get them to agree to issue not one single visa for any of these soldiers," he complained. He’d pitched his idea widely, he said, but "got yelled at by most everyone."

When we spoke to him, he had transferred his frustration to the American government, and traveled to Washington to lobby.

"I am in Washington DC now to try and get some leadership here to help push the Ukrainians to take these soldiers," he said. "It all hinges on the US partners here encouraging Ukraine to use these men or us merely convincing them to use them."

Who in DC was he meeting?

Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed || 09/16/2024 08:11 || Comments || Link || [11127 views] Top|| File under:


Pinhead accused of almost assassinating Trump was profiled in the New York Times for his efforts to recruit fighters to help Ukraine
[PUBLISH.TWITTER]

… Routh was arrested in 2002 in Greensboro, N.C., following an armed standoff at his roofing business.
Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2024 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11135 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 09/16/2024 1:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Russians are saying the "AK" was in fact an SKS, which shoots the same round as the AK. SKSs are s'posed to be cheaper than a semi automatic AK. Some are even used as hunting rifles.
Posted by: badanov || 09/16/2024 4:53 Comments || Top||

#3  From Russian military journalist Boris Rozhin's Live Journal account from a commenter:

However, according to a firearms expert, the photos released at a press conference on Sunday show an SKS-type rifle with a polymer stock, equipped with an AK-style magazine for 7.62 mm rounds.

“The weapon in question was misidentified as an AK-type rifle, likely due to the distinctively curved magazine and visually similar gas system,” N.R. Jensen-Jones, director of the consultancy Armament Research Services, told The Post.

Minor modifications can be made to the SKS rifle to permit the use of AK Magazines. Shooter's weapon appears to have an off-set scope and mount which permits use of 10 round, top loading stripper clips.

Graphic (now deleted) was harvested from a Washington Post story https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/15/trump-golf-course-gunman-weapon/

Full sized WAPO photo at above link shows a rather long scope (possibly Russian) with strange white tape or white pad at eye relief end. Does NOT appear to be a professional scope mounting job.
Posted by: badanov || 09/16/2024 4:56 Comments || Top||

#4  From the V Kontakte post of Russian military correspondent Aleksandr Kots:

But I would not be surprised if during the investigation they find Routh correspondence with some Sberbank security officer of the day before yesterday and an Islamic preacher of yesterday. Who led the American to the idea that killing Trump is the best help for Ukraine.
Posted by: badanov || 09/16/2024 5:04 Comments || Top||

#5  /\ Hold that 'Sberbank' thought.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 5:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Ryan Routh appears to be a deep state stooge; NY Times, Ukraine, poor marksmanship..
Posted by: Airandee || 09/16/2024 6:33 Comments || Top||

#7  /\ Ditto Airandee. Likely NOT on FBI radar since he was anti-Trump.

I'm now curious about possible social network connections (or any other connectons) between Florida gunman and Pennsylvania gunman. Just a rock that needs flipping over.

Oh, one other thing.

Shooter's health, meds, etc? How long can he be expected to be with us ?

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 6:46 Comments || Top||

#8 
Posted by: Frank G || 09/16/2024 6:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Good find Frank. Good find indeed.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 7:05 Comments || Top||

#10 

… connection to Azov and has never had any connection to Azov. The peaceful demonstration he attended was open and anyone could join it. He was caught on the video filmed by the protesters by accident.

We believe that the spread of the narrative about the possible connection between Azov and Ryan Wesley Routh is playing along with Russian propaganda and discredits the 12th Special Forces Brigade Azov of the National Guard of Ukraine and the Security and Defense Forces of Ukraine in general.
Posted by: badanov || 09/16/2024 7:18 Comments || Top||

#11 
Posted by: badanov || 09/16/2024 7:24 Comments || Top||

#12  I could be wrong, but doubt the Ukies are interested in foreign assassinations. They've got enough shi* to shovel as it is. Discovery could be catastrophic for future militay aid. I can just see Kamala pulling an Afghan shutdown and diverting Ukie defense dollars to reparations or migrant SNAP cards.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 7:27 Comments || Top||

#13  ^ What do you think Trump is going to do? (To Azov). They are beholden to the Democrat Party.
Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed || 09/16/2024 7:39 Comments || Top||

#14  The Ukers are not a solid edifice - there are factions vying for power. Chaos is effective cover for action.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 09/16/2024 10:34 Comments || Top||

#15 
How long can he be expected to be with us ?

Until he's been cremated. That may have already happened. The FBI will let us know in 50-100 years.
Posted by: Gromble+Dribble4342 || 09/16/2024 10:44 Comments || Top||

#16  It would be hard to hit a target at 300 yards with an SKS even with a scope. The SKS rifle is prone to “slamfires” – or accidental discharges of the rifle without pulling trigger.
The issue of slamfires is especially problematic for collectors which is why special care is an important reminder. I have observed this myself. Depending on where it was manufactured the accuracy is debatable. he SKS rifle is effective at a firing range of 440 yards. I have on, a Chinese made. Maybe it's because it's Chinese but it's not very accurate beyond 200 yards. I would like to know what version this rifle is.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/16/2024 12:22 Comments || Top||

#17  It sounds like the shot was from 150 yards.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/16/2024 12:44 Comments || Top||


#19  How Donald Trump's casual Sunday golf session was minutes away from becoming a historic disaster



Under 50 yds at the 6th hole, methinks.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 14:17 Comments || Top||

#20  Curious that the suspect has no visible wounds on face, head, or upper body given that the USSS agents ahead of Trump fired four rounds at a rifle barrel sticking out of a chain link fence. The fence at any angle of shooter to target would seem to have had a significant likelihood of some shrapnel efect even if the agents missed, adding more discredit to the mythic reputation of USSS shooting skills?
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 09/16/2024 14:34 Comments || Top||

#21  ^Hand guns. 150 meters.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 09/16/2024 14:52 Comments || Top||

#22  Are you sure about that Grom? In any event, a more puzzling aspect of this now seems to be what the map above shows: noting the vehicle location, coupled with the 12 hour onsite of the phone at the sniper location, coupled with the stolen license plates on the perps truck which was likely parked for the 12 hour period, all of which suggests that NO ONE from the USSS detail/local LE drove the perimeter of the golf course fence line for even a cursory screening once Trump made the decision to play golf. Even a simple drive-by of the fence line street should have included license plate checks on parked vehicles immediately proximate to the fence-line. The stolen tags would then have registered, dismounted examination of the vehicle and a VIN run that would reveal the sniper's actual ID, and the ground search would reveal sniper location hours before Trump was even on the course. If my suppositions are accurate this is unbelievable incompetence for the USSS detail?
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 09/16/2024 15:41 Comments || Top||

#23  Are you sure about that Grom?

It wasn't 150, but (approx) 400.

Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 09/16/2024 16:27 Comments || Top||

#24  [Wayback machine] When I was last there (2018) NoMo the island was fed by 3 or 4, 4 lane bridges. The primary road serving the island residents was generally a quiet 2 lane route between block walls or mangrove swamps. High traffic areas serving the bridges broadened to 4 lanes for turn lane or commercial access. When P.Trump was in residence, common traffic was rerouted away from him by city police, or screened by sheriff's deputies, with dogs. They also did the preliminary vehicle searches and alerted the mobile SS unit for background checks when a dog triggered or a driver was suspicious. SS was in place 'near' the golf course gates which were manned by private security.

Now, there may not be roving patrols or perimeter monitoring other than private security in golf carts, inside the fence. Abandoned vehicles on the roadside may get a tow sticker unless they are in a suggested parking area for shore fishers (or photogs). Likely no plates are checked.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 22:15 Comments || Top||



Alexander Vindman’s wife: No ears were harmed, others tried to debunk
[PUBLISH.TWITTER]

Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2024 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11137 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Right. This time, the FBI, Secret Service, and local cops are all in on it, on the Trumper's payroll.

Great work Karl Rove!
Posted by: Bobby || 09/16/2024 0:51 Comments || Top||

#2  There are an almost unbelievable number of people believe the attempted assassination in Pennsylvania was a false flag operation by Trump despite the death of one person and the wounding of Trump. They claim no one was killed or wounded, including the shooter.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/16/2024 12:08 Comments || Top||

#3  In bread cross breading quite obvious.
Posted by: Dale || 09/16/2024 12:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Vindman was probably a lock for election. His wife may have blown that.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/16/2024 12:40 Comments || Top||

#5  #3: Whole Grain inc3st?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/16/2024 12:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Mark Steyn quoted the wife, and adds this quote

This is like the plane flying into the second tower. The situation is suddenly totally clear. We are under attack.

— Diana Allocco (@dianamee) September 15, 2024
Posted by: Gromble+Dribble4342 || 09/16/2024 13:19 Comments || Top||

#7  There is already an unbelievable number of people supporting Que Mala.
Posted by: Gromble+Dribble4342 || 09/16/2024 13:20 Comments || Top||


#9  Elon Musk posts then deletes shocking reaction to Donald Trump assassination attempt

'Trump threatens the machine. Biden/Kamala are the machine.'
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 14:07 Comments || Top||


Day 2: Would-be Trump assassin ID'd as Ryan Routh, 58, of Hawaii: sources
See Day 1 articles here and here.
[NYPOST] Ryan Wesley Routh,
…aka Ryan Routh…
58, has been identified as the suspect who was arrested after allegedly pointing an AK-47 assault rifle at former President Trump while he golfed, according to law enforcement sources.

Routh frequently touted his do-gooder credentials and championed left-wing causes on social media.
His hair in one photo appears to be dyed blond, in another is half blue and half white. Very hep cat.
His LinkedIn shows that he attended North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, but relocated to Hawaii sometime around 2018.

Routh describes on LinkedIn as ''mechanically minded'' and enjoying ''ideas and invention and creative projects with artistic flair.''

Routh was spotted by Secret Service agents near the Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach with an AK-47, according to sources.

The agents opened fire on him, but he fled. Routh was later arrested on I-95 by local police.

Routh is the owner of Camp Box Honolulu, a shed building company with few positive reviews. While Routh hadn't posted on his X account in a year, he frequently criticized politicians including Trump, current President Joe The Big Guy Biden
...46th president of the U.S. The very model of probity....
, and celebrities like Bruno Mars.

Many of his replies are nonsensical, including one directed towards X's owner Elon Musk, in which he seemed to entertain purchasing a rocket from the billionaire. ''I would like to buy a rocket from you. I wish to load it with a warhead for Putin's Black Sea mansion bunker to end him. Can you give me a price please. It can be old and used as not returning,'' Routh wrote.
Sounds like he is not of sound mind.
Few democrats are of "sound mind."
Routh was a supporter of Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haley
...Trump administration's former ambassador to the UN. First woman to serve as Governor of South Carolina, and the second Indian-American governor in the country, after Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. At the age of 39, Haley was the youngest governor in the U.S., a distinction formerly held by Jindal. She is a Republican, which really grates on the Dems...
, according to one of his posts in which he encouraged the Republican presidential candidates to continue their races. ''You cannot quit. Why. You must stay on the ballot to the end. You must fight. You must continue giving speeches and push all the way to election day no matter the election results. Do not give in. Join Nikki and keep working. Never give up,'' he wrote.



Alleged would-be Trump assassin Ryan Routh donated exclusively to Democrats since 2019
Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2024 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11140 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "In a significant development, CNN reports that Trump's golf game on Sunday was an impromptu decision.

According to two sources familiar with the matter, the outing was a last-minute addition to Trump's schedule, which originally had no public events planned for the day.

This revelation adds a puzzling layer to the alleged assassination attempt.

It raises critical questions about how the suspect, identified by as Ryan Wesley Routh, could have known Trump would be on the course at that specific time.

The spontaneous nature of Trump's golf outing contradicts earlier speculations about the suspect's "high degree of planning," as suggested by former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.?

Source: CNN

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1835519048232149094
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 09/16/2024 1:02 Comments || Top||

#2 
Has the DC Swamp controlled _ _ _ washed down the shooting scene, misplaced the weapon, released him on a signature bond, or did they just cremate him after capture to save on paperwork?
Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/16/2024 4:14 Comments || Top||

#3 
On a more serious note:
Before all the secondary data is scrubbed or adjusted:

Full Name: Ryan Wesley Routh
Born: Feb 1966
Age: 58

A good starting point for some basic background data like:

Over a 20+/- addresses in 20 years.

GIS DATA
51-3## Kamehameha Hwy, Kaaawa, HI address.
$200+K valued Home in Hawaii with solar panels on the roof (Google Maps street view).

2### Hiatt St in Greensboro, NC North Carolina address seems to be a rental address. Because the GIS database lists different owner name and he's not in the Sale History.

At least 3 different NC phone #'s in just 2024 alone.

List of Possible Associates.

List of Possible Email Addresses
Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/16/2024 5:06 Comments || Top||

#4  /\ This revelation adds a puzzling layer to the alleged assassination attempt.

"Puzzling layer" or highly placed Trump personal staff inside person. You decide.

Coincidences? No, I don't believe in them.


Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 5:22 Comments || Top||

#5 

Court records show more than 100 criminal counts have been filed against Ryan Routh in North Carolina, most in Guilford County, which underlies Greensboro.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/16/2024 7:15 Comments || Top||

#6 

OK, I'll ask the question.
Given, Trump's poll numbers get better and better.

So how long before the LSD's stage a Harris or Biden incident to try to bump up the (D) numbers? Thus giving their propaganda arm something to run with?

BTW:
Watching YouTube yesterday, I noticed with most of the Trump Shooting videos, the LEFT had situated the Harris ANTI-Trump ad's to run.

Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/16/2024 7:26 Comments || Top||



#9  Seems like they're going to keep at it until someone gets lucky. So what then? Not looking forward to the aftermath.
Posted by: Mercutio || 09/16/2024 8:16 Comments || Top||

#10  Alleged Trump Would-Be Assassin Told NYT About Fighting in Ukraine
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2024 8:19 Comments || Top||


#12  The perp didn't use an Ar-15. Must not have got the DNC memo.
Posted by: Mercutio || 09/16/2024 9:16 Comments || Top||

#13  "Cremate him NOW" - Christopher Wray
Posted by: Gromble+Dribble4342 || 09/16/2024 10:40 Comments || Top||

#14  "Impromptu"? So that implies the shooter has someone on the inside feeding him updates?
Posted by: Crusader || 09/16/2024 12:19 Comments || Top||

#15  It was an SKS, not AK-47. Precursor to the AK-47.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/16/2024 12:25 Comments || Top||

#16  Here are my questions:
- If the dude had no known sniper training, how did he identify that vulnerability in the perimeter of the golf course?
- Most operatives will case an area for an extended period before determining a plan. How long had he been in Florida?
- The perp had a pretty successful escape plan built into the operation. How long had he been planning?
- While it is not an outlandish guess that Trump would play golf on his day off, the dude’s plan did not seem to entail him hanging out in the bushes all day. What or who was the trigger for him to get on station for his shot?
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/16/2024 12:38 Comments || Top||

#17  One-two-October Surprise
Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2024 12:49 Comments || Top||

#18  Where does a whack job like that get the money to start a business in Hawaii?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/16/2024 13:13 Comments || Top||

#19  British leaders voice support for Trump and want to know what is going on with all of the violent attacks on Democracy from the left in the US.
Posted by: Glavinter Peacock7962 || 09/16/2024 13:14 Comments || Top||

#20  Very pale fir someone who lives in Hawaii and works construction...
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 09/16/2024 13:22 Comments || Top||

#21  #19 Nicely played.
Posted by: Crusader || 09/16/2024 14:52 Comments || Top||

#22  The map in the link at #7 shows his position is was less than 50 yards for the sixth green.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/16/2024 15:12 Comments || Top||

#23  Not is was. Just was.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/16/2024 15:13 Comments || Top||

#24  Charged today: "prosecutors levied two charges against him: possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number.

The felony stems from an incident in which Routh allegedly barricaded himself and had a standoff with police in 2002. The Greensboro News & Record noted that once the standoff ended, Routh was arrested and “charged with carrying a concealed weapon and possession of a weapon of mass destruction, referring to a fully automatic machine gun.”. Breitbart.com
Posted by: Glavinter Peacock7962 || 09/16/2024 15:17 Comments || Top||

#25  FBI Butler, Pennsylvania AGR building crime scene cleaning detail now enroute to Ryan Routh residence in Florida.

[sarc off]

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2024 15:28 Comments || Top||


#27  Regarding him residing in Greensboro, NC North Carolina. Harris had a rally there 3 days ago?
Posted by: Glavinter Peacock7962 || 09/16/2024 16:08 Comments || Top||

#28  NPR reporting he voted in North Carolina in March 2024.
Posted by: Glavinter Peacock7962 || 09/16/2024 16:30 Comments || Top||

#29  ...knock, knock
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/16/2024 16:59 Comments || Top||

#30  Made a mistake leaving this one alive. Epstein bedsheets?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/16/2024 17:57 Comments || Top||

#31  SS reports that while agents were sweeping the area two holes up from where Trump was they spotyed a gun barrel protruding through a fence and brush. They fired at the person with the gun who then fled. They said he never got a shot off and Trump was not in line of sight yet of the assassin.
Posted by: Glavinter Peacock7962 || 09/16/2024 19:35 Comments || Top||

#32  If he stays alive, he acted alone.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/16/2024 20:02 Comments || Top||

#33  Routh was a supporter of Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haley

Hey NYP, you just admitted that people register opposite their political alignment in order to influence elections, and in this direction.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/16/2024 20:45 Comments || Top||



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