[MONEY.CNN] MSNBC's feisty debate between Bernie Sanders ...The only openly Socialist member of the U.S. Senate. Sanders was Representative-for-Life from Vermont until moving to the Senate for the rest of his life in 2006, assuming the seat vacated by Jim Jeffords... and Hillary Clinton ... sometimes described as The Heroine of Tuzla and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another Hamilton Fish ... received high marks from political observers, but not high ratings from ordinary viewers.
With 4.5 million viewers, it was the lowest-rated debate of the 2016 election cycle by far, according to Nielsen data.
The prior low was 7.8 million viewers for ABC's Democratic debate on the Saturday night before Christmas.
MSNBC's debate was a late addition to the lineup, originally announced just over a week ago and not officially sanctioned by the Democratic National Committee until this week. But the channel heavily promoted the debate on Wednesday and Thursday.
The ratings results may suggest some measure of debate fatigue among viewers. MSNBC may have also faced structural disadvantages because it is generally lower-rated than Fox News or CNN.
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who wants to voluntarily listen to your crazy uncle and his ex-wife yell at each other?
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Rachel Maddow was downright friendly to them. Softball questions, nothing of substance. No questions to Hillary about her Wall Street speaking fees. Imagine if she was questioning a Republican.
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If she was a republican, she would be in jail awaiting trial.
[TOWNHALL] Hillary Clinton ... sometimes described as America's Blond Eminence and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another Dean Rusk ... 's server is the scandal. It's possible that Rice's aides and Sec. Powell may have acted improperly (though the email rules were set forth after Powell left office). They may have been sloppy with a small number of low-level classified information on an ad hoc basis. The rules and laws pertaining to the US government's data security must be followed. By everyone. But Clinton mishandled hundreds upon hundreds of classified emails, which held state secrets at the highest classification levels.
In fact, just this week, the State Department deemed another seven Clinton emails too sensitive to release in any form, even with redactions, bringing that total to 29. Intelligence officials who've seen some of the documents in question say they betray operational intelligence, the leakage of which puts covert missions and lives at risk.
A former NSA official has intelligence community sources who say Clinton's emails included the true identities of CIA operatives and assets, including foreign nationals working for the agency. Unlike Powell and Rice, Mrs. Clinton exhibited ongoing gross negligence by exposing reams of sensitive and classified intelligence to foreign governments. She ignored her sworn duty to safeguard secrets, "marked and unmarked," and declined to alter her behavior after she was admonished of an explicit vulnerability pertaining to personal email use.
And unlike Powell and Rice, Hillary has consistently lied about this scandal. Her smug assertion that the (twice expanded) FBI investigation won't go anywhere amounts to waving a red flag in front of career Sherlocks and intelligence officials, who are reportedly fuming over her irresponsible, and likely criminal, conduct.
Remember, the probe reportedly entails more than just her email misconduct, Gen. David Petraeus was charged for classified intelligence spillage that was far more limited and contained, and a former US Attorney General says there's already sufficient evidence to justify an indictment.
Clinton seems confident that her political power and privilege will shield her from accountability in the end, sending a less-than-subtle message to the Justice Department, which has already been influenced by two public White House statements.
Parting thought: Colin Powell says the FBI has contacted him about his two "confidential" messages sent prior to the revamped email rules being established. Hillary Clinton recently claimed she hasn't been interviewed by the FBI in connection to its serious and growing probe that focuses on her practices. Is that still true?
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This makes the 'Valorie Plame affair' which everyone and the media were so upset about look like a recipe-exchange down at the Senior Center.
Yet the media hardly mentions this and when they do its with that 'those mean ole republicans are beating up on grandma again' attitude.
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Colin Powell's e-mails were routed through a U.S. Government server and posted on a U.S. Government owned computer installed in a U.S. Government office. The entire system was monitored 24 hours a day by the U.S. Federal Government Security System.
None of that can be said about Hillary Clinton's privately owned home-brew system.
If classified e-mail content, of any security level, leaked through the security system and was posted on either Colin Powell's (or his, or Condoleezza Rice's aides) computers it is first and foremost the fault and failure of the U.S. Government.
Democrats, such as Elijah Cummings in his incessant rants before the House Oversight Committee, would like you to believe that Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice are responsible for the crimes of Hillary Clinton.
It is of course completely ridiculous to think that Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice could or would coerce or compel Hillary Clinton to comit her own crimes.
Any and all persons with a security clearance, regardless of their position or rank, who failed to recognize and report any compromise of the security system DESERVES to be investigated and prosecuted according to the "severity" of their failure or crimes.
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Supported by huge sums of money, these people enjoy cult status. There is no crime so heinous that it would result in the turning away of their dedicated followers and believers.
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OP's comment from yesterday captures the bottom line:
#14 I can see going back into legacy material to see if anything else was sabotaged. Colin Powell may never have known that the emails sent to him contained classified material, since they WERE sent to him. It depends on who sent them, when, and why. If some of Ms. Rice's senior aides had received classified emails and KNEW they were classified, there was a problem. Several big differences between this and Hillary: Neither Powell nor Rice created an exclusively non-governmental server, and did all their business through it. There is (yet) no evidence that any of either of them routinely received classified material on their personal accounts. Neither of them tried to HIDE their personal email account. And (so far) TOP SECRET Codeword material hasn't been discovered, as it was on Hitlery's account. If Hillary doesn't burn, you can put a fork in the United States -- it's dead.
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[CBSNEWS] "And you can tell them to go f**k themselves," Donald Trump told a crowd at a Portsmouth Rally on Thursday night, uttering the expletive at the climax of the riff on his tax proposal. He was referring to companies that have relocated overseas for more favorable tax rates.
Trump often relies on expletives and crude language to spice up his stump speech, though Thursday evening's event was a little more profane than usual. While he refrained from using the vulgar Yiddish word that he directed at Secretary Clinton in December, Trump ran through more than his usual share of profanity at the Portsmouth rally.
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Donald doing the job other Americans won't. Admit it, you'd type the same adjectival descriptives if this wasn't a blog of well reasoned discourse. Particularly considering the repetitive examples of cranial rectal insertion too many of our 'betters' constantly display.
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"And you can tell them to go f**k themselves." I'd have preferred it if Trump applied this to anyone on the left (basically, anyone in the Democratic Party these days). Change the tax structure and these companies he refers to will come back to the U.S.
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Include in those taxes the political bribes, reelection 'contributions' and kickbacks the pols demand. At a certain point, dealing with corrupt governments overseas does get cheaper.
Of course, part of doing business, is expecting one day those overseas bribes can't cover for an ah s**t and the boys come looking for you to cover their own ass(ets). Then your business becomes someone else's business. Not to be confused with Washington bureaucrats who effectively take over your company by fiat regulation. (See - fascism).
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Donald is undoubtedly a smart guy but his skills with the English language leave a lot to be desired. It's good that he doesn't use a teleprompter but it would be even better if he could string a few more coherent sentences together. There are those who will use this type of thing to argue that he is a dim witted blowhard.
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[STEYNONLINE] Politix in a nutshell: Bernie's a nit, Hillary's a cheat, Trump flames out and goes potty mouth, Cruz cheats with a trick worthy of a Dem, and Rubio's sometimes showing lines of programming code. Uck. Where's Romney?
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
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