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I tried to put in the links today. Hope they work! (Fingers crossed).
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 08/14/2006 10:01 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  no more wire hangers!
Posted by: Frank G || 08/14/2006 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Sees shadow. Six more weeks of summer predicted.

Heh(TM). Punxsutawey Kim!
Posted by: Jonathan || 08/14/2006 10:10 Comments || Top||

#3  "When you polish the floor you have to move the tree. If you can't do something right don't do it at all!"

Yes, Mistress.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 08/14/2006 10:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Scooter, you're pretty darned good at this. Thanks!
Posted by: Steve White || 08/14/2006 10:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Scooter----Great work! Now Fred does not have to fret about this facet of the daily RB weblog. He can concentrate on the fisching, heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 08/14/2006 11:46 Comments || Top||

#6  US gives Jordan $247,000,000
thanks for Jizya suckers


we want autographs Scooter!

»:-)
Posted by: RD || 08/14/2006 12:11 Comments || Top||

#7  Dang. Just... DANG! Scooter, you are without peer.
Posted by: Dave D. || 08/14/2006 12:17 Comments || Top||

#8  I think you missed an obvious Bette Davis-Kim Jong Il segue there, Scooter.

"Whatever Happened to Baby Kim?" would've neatly reunited the theme of has-beens with nice legs.

Cheers,
Victoria
Posted by: Victoria || 08/14/2006 12:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Christina!!! Bring me the ax!!!
Posted by: ST || 08/14/2006 12:36 Comments || Top||

#10  Yes Joan, make mine a Pepsi Please.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/14/2006 12:49 Comments || Top||

#11  Believe it or not, I used to work for the Asia Times back when it was a real newspaper - before going on-line only. Of course, they never let me write headlines like these....
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 08/14/2006 13:16 Comments || Top||

#12 
Believe it or not, I used to work for the Asia Times back when it was a real newspaper - before going on-line only. Of course, they never let me write headlines like these....


that explains it all then Scooter, nothing like expierence..come to think of it you may actually outrank Fred most of us.

/i didnt say that.... >::
Posted by: RD || 08/14/2006 13:23 Comments || Top||

#13  I used to work for the Asia Times
I see the work of Mergenthaler Linotype Compugraphic whiz. Bleed PMS 185?
Posted by: 6 || 08/14/2006 17:11 Comments || Top||

#14  You know it, 6!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 08/14/2006 20:14 Comments || Top||

#15  :>
Posted by: 6 || 08/14/2006 20:50 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Destruction Is Lots Easier than Construction
EXTREMISTS SUSPECTED IN BURNING OF RADIO STATION

LOGAR PROVINCE , Afghanistan – The Radio Istiqlal station in the Baraki Barak District here was burned down Aug. 11 after a night letter was distributed around town earlier in the week condemning music and “decadent” western-type behavior.

No one was seriously injured in the fire, although the station manager had burns on his hands and fee. All the studio equipment was ruined.

“I tried to save equipment inside, but the fire was very strong and I was not able to save anything except for the generator which was located at the kitchen,” said Lal Mohamad, station manager. “I realized that my coat was burning and I stopped trying to put the fire out when I realized that my feet and hands were also burned.”

Radio Istiqlal was established with its first broadcast in April 2004. This radio station was popular with the community and broadcast 10 hours of news and entertainment per day.

Radio Istiqlal broadcasted a variety of issues concerning the development of Afghanistan and the local community. Issues covered weekly included poverty, illiteracy, security, corruption, local governance, parliament and the opium trade.
There are days when I've wanted to burn down the local NPR station ...
“Despite such a despicable act against free speech and information, the Afghan people will not be dissuaded from moving forward,” said Col. Thomas Collins, Coalition spokesman. “The extremists who perpetrated this crime are criminals who are against any form of individual expression, including simply listening to music or hearing local news.”

Sounds like a reasonable place to deploy some US money.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/14/2006 12:50 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...are criminals who are against any form of individual expression, including simply listening to music or hearing local news."

Hey, we have something in common. I'm also against hearing local news.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 08/14/2006 12:56 Comments || Top||

#2  condemning music and “decadent” western-type behavior.

"Stop that unseemly frivolity and mirth at once!"
Posted by: eLarson || 08/14/2006 13:48 Comments || Top||

#3  I was not able to save anything except for the generator which was located at the kitchen
SPoD?
Posted by: 6 || 08/14/2006 17:13 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan fighting kills 30
Fighting in Afghanistan left at least 24 insurgents and five Afghan security forces dead, as unknown attackers hit a house with mortar fire, wounding 20 civilians, officials said on Sunday.

In a flood-hit province, authorities found bombs planted under the car of a senior Afghan Red Crescent official and outside a government refugee office. In Kabul, the education minister teamed up with the top US general in Afghanistan to thwart attacks on schools that have killed 41 students and teachers over the last year.

In eastern Paktika province, insurgents attacked an Afghan army post, leaving five soldiers and at least 18 militants dead on Sunday, the US-led coalition said. Six soldiers were hurt, three seriously, before the attackers were fended off by mortar fire from nearby military bases, said a coalition statement. Coalition troops were embedded with the Afghan troops but suffered no casualties, it said.
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Posted by: Fred || 08/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Horn
Ugandan army says troops kill wanted rebel
KAMPALA - Uganda’s military has killed a senior northern rebel wanted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague, a spokesman said on Sunday. Raska Lukwiya was one of five commanders from the elusive Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) named by the new world court in its first arrest warrants in October.

‘We got him yesterday in Kitgum district after he staged an ambush on Friday night. Lukwiya is dead,’ a Ugandan army spokesman said by telephone. He said the body had been identified by former rebels. An LRA spokesman said he could not confirm if Lukwiya was dead.

Experts were cautious, saying the Ugandan military has often claimed to have killed top LRA fighters who are later found alive. In October, it said another ICC target, Dominic Ongwen, had been killed in northern Uganda. Last month, the ICC said Ongwen was alive and trying to join LRA chief Joseph Kony in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.
Sorta like Belushi in the Rasputin skit ...
‘Mistakes are made, but weigh them against the accuracies,’ Defence Minister Crispus Kiyonga told a news conference in Uganda’s capital Kampala, referring to the capture of several LRA officers in recent months.

The ICC has charged Lukwiya with four counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity including enslavement, attacking civilians and pillaging. An Interpol ‘red notice’ for his arrest issued in June includes a rare, grainy photograph of the pudgy middle-aged commander wearing a camouflage uniform and green beret.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa North
Salafite Groups Step Up Violence
Algiers, 14 August (AKI) - The Salafite Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) has stepped up attacks in Algeria in recent days ahead of the 31 August deadline for a government amnesty for Islamic militants who want to hand themselves in and who have not been involved in bloody attacks.
We'll take that as a "no".
Islamic militants on Saturday exploded five bombs against a military patrol in Maazula, and four bombs went off earlier at al-Qadiriya 80 km west of Algiers. Both attacks were in areas where the government had deployed large numbers of troops ahead of an expected offensive against the Islamic terror groups who have sought refuge in the mountains.

While the al-Qaeda linked GSPC, which has rejected the amnesty offer outright, has stepped up its attacks as the deadline draws near, the government is reportedly preparing an unprecedented offensive against Islamic militants. Algerian government sources contacted by the Arab daily al-Sharq al-Awsat referred to the "last quarter hour for terrorist groups" and a massive offensive in September against the refuges of Islamic militants in mountain areas where an estimated 300 hard line combattents are holed up, unwilling to give up their armed struggle against the Algerian institutions.

Algerian Interior Minister Noureddine Yazid Zerhouni announced at the end of June that 200 Islamic militants had turned themselves in under an amnesty approved in February to end years of violence following the country's civil war. The authorities had identified up to 800 militants who could benefit from the amnesty regulations.

The amnesty, which expires on 31 August, was part of reconciliation measures to finally end years of a civil war in which estimated 200,000 people have died. It gives Islamic militants six months to surrender and receive a pardon provided they were not responsible for massacres, rapes or bombings. The authorities have freed 2,200 jailed militants under the deal which also provides compensation for victims of the violence. The civil war broke out in 1992 when authorities canceled a parliamentary election that radical Islamists were slated to win.
Posted by: Steve || 08/14/2006 08:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I hope we've got a couple of Special Forces guys helping them organize that offensive.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/14/2006 12:10 Comments || Top||


Britain
More arrests as another UK charity being probed
British and Pakistani intelligence agencies are investigating another UK-based Muslim charity active in Pakistan for its alleged involvement in terror financing, it emerged on Sunday, as 15 people were arrested in southern Punjab in connection with the alleged plot to blow up aircraft in the UK. Investigators are already looking at one UK-based charity, called the Muslim Charity, that allegedly sent large sums of money to three individuals in Mirpur, Azad Kashmir, under the guise of quake relief but for the actual purpose of funding the alleged UK plane bombing plot, according to official sources.
“Investigators are already looking at one UK-based charity, called the Muslim Charity, that allegedly sent large sums of money to three individuals in Mirpur, Azad Kashmir, under the guise of quake relief but for the actual purpose of funding the alleged UK plane bombing plot...”
Somehow we knew a considerable portion of all that money coming in for quake relief was going to get dirty...
Cynic. It was for the Widows Ammunition Fund; every Moose-limb country has one ...
The new charity, which has been under surveillance for several months, is also said to have provided funds, to individuals in Quetta last year. The charity asked the recipients of the money to sacrifice animals on Eidul Azha and give the meat to the poor, the sources said. Sources said the UK investigators are trying to establish whether the charity remitted the money through the formal banking system. Pakistani investigators believe the funds could have found their way here through the informal Hawala mode of payment, the sources said.
That's the usual method favored by terrs, isn't it?

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Posted by: Fred || 08/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Muslim charity"
Posted by: gromgoru || 08/14/2006 6:14 Comments || Top||

#2  All Muzzie charities are to benefit poor children. Just ask them. They forget to mention that they like to buy their children the latest in RPG's and AK's. Foolish us. We were thinking food and clothing.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 08/14/2006 10:56 Comments || Top||

#3  ummah charity.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/14/2006 16:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Using this latest perfidy as a general model, ALL Muslim charities should be shut down tight. There needs to be an independent foundation (no, not the UN fer crimeney sakes!) that is assigned to amass and distribute any and all of the donations that Muslims make.

Between jihad and taqqiya there is absolutely no hope of any honorable dealings with Islam. This has been proven over and over again. Now is the time to simply choke off this deceitful farce.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 21:18 Comments || Top||


Europe
Spanish police find 'drugs' sub
A submarine which police say may have been used for cocaine smuggling has been found floating off Spain's north-western coast. It was spotted by a member of the public in an inlet along the rugged coastline on Sunday. No drugs were found on board the vessel, but it is now being dismantled at a shipyard in Moana, near Vigo.
Could have be intended as a drug sub, could have been a human torpedo. Big US navy base in Rota, not to mention the British base at Gibraltar
It is reported to be about 10m (33ft) long, made by amateurs from basic materials, not by professionals.

Jaime Gonzalez, a journalist in the north-western city of Santiago de Compostela, told the BBC World Service's Europe Today programme that the region was well-known as a gateway for drugs into Europe. While submarines are not known to have been used for drug trafficking in Spain, they have been used for this purpose in Colombia. "It could take drugs from a ship in the ocean and take them to the coast without being seen," Mr Gonzalez said. "There has been nothing like this before in Spain. It is an example of how narco-traffickers are advancing in technology."

Mr Gonzalez said it was thought that the submarine could have been built in southern Spain, in Andalucia, and brought to the north-western region of Galicia by road. He said one theory was that the vessel was undergoing tests when a technical problem arose. The owners may have been planning to return to it, he added, if the police had not got there first.
Posted by: Steve || 08/14/2006 13:07 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In a town in northern Spain,
Lived a man who sailed to sea,
And he tried to smuggle drugs,
Using home-made submarines,

So we built a boat from scratch,
To try to earn a bit of green,
And we dove beneath the waves,
In our home-made submarine,

We all live in a home-made submarine,
home-made submarine, home-made submarine,
We all live in a home-made submarine,
home-made submarine, home-made submarine,

So we went to Home Depot,
Made our hull from PVC,
Got some Krylon spray paint black,
For our home-made submarine,

We all live in a home-made submarine,
home-made submarine, home-made submarine,
We all live in a home-made submarine,
home-made submarine, home-made submarine,

Once the cocaine's all aboard,
And the "Christmas Tree" shows green,
Hook the wires to a Sears Die-Hard,
And dive our home-made submarine,

We all live in a home-made submarine,
home-made submarine, home-made submarine,
We all live in a home-made submarine,
home-made submarine, home-made submarine . . .
Posted by: Mike || 08/14/2006 15:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Bravo!
Posted by: 6 || 08/14/2006 17:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Will they do a cartoon based on Mike song too? It could be mighty psychedelic, depending if the right type of drug is smuggled.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/14/2006 17:17 Comments || Top||

#4 
Shopping list:

Twenty 55-gallon drums of baking powder... check!
Posted by: Seafarious || 08/14/2006 17:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Some drums of vinegar---check!

Mike---Great song parody! The topic spoke to you, and ye did will, laddie.
Posted by: Alaska Paul at Anchorge Airport || 08/14/2006 17:54 Comments || Top||

#6  A cocaine sub sounds devilishly expensive to operate. I'm with Seafarious. Stay with the baking soda.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 18:00 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
All missing Egyptian students in custody
The last two of the 11 Egyptian exchange students who failed to show up at their college program were apprehended Sunday in Richmond, Va., customs officials said.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arrested Mohamed Saleh Ahmed Maray, 20, and Mohamed Ibrahim Fouaad El Shenawy, 17, at an apartment building in Richmond on Sunday night. Virginia State Police and the Richmond Police helped locate the students.

Last Wednesday, one of the Egyptian students was arrested in Minneapolis and two were detained in Manville, N.J. On Thursday, two were arrested in Dundalk, Md., and one was arrested at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. Three more were arrested Friday in Des Moines, Iowa.

The students were to attend a monthlong program at Montana State University in Bozeman, Mont. A group of 17 students arrived in New York on July 29. Six reported to Bozeman on time.

After Montana State repeatedly tried to contact the missing students, it notified Homeland Security Department officials and registered the Egyptians as no-shows in a system to track foreign students developed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

None of the students is considered a terrorism risk

Not now - ship em outta here. What great efforts to deny the possibility they were up to no good...call it what it is, ya PC jerks
Posted by: Frank G || 08/14/2006 07:49 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  probally just needed "Mapquest"
Posted by: plainslow || 08/14/2006 8:34 Comments || Top||

#2  The god of the LLL, PC, is aiding the enemy and literally killing us. What stupidity and foolishness.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 8:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Has ANYONE gotten around to finding out WHY they didn't report to the colleges? I've not seen one word about it in the news for any of these students.
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands || 08/14/2006 9:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Several of the people they stayed with said the students were hoping to find jobs and stay here. it's possible that really is all there is to it.
Posted by: lotp || 08/14/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Did they have work visas?
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands || 08/14/2006 9:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Who needs a work visa? Just get yourself some fake documents for your employer to put in the file and you're good to go.
Posted by: Bobby || 08/14/2006 9:32 Comments || Top||

#7  IIUC correctly they didn't. They possibly figured that here, as in Egypt, there's the official reality and the actual reality.
Posted by: lotp || 08/14/2006 9:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Bobby-are you saying that students coming to the US on student visas are free to work in the US? I understand your point about false documents, but even if they had them on file, it wouldn't change their visa category.
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands || 08/14/2006 9:38 Comments || Top||

#9  They work, but under the table. We had a engineering student do a co-op with our company a few years back. He was working in a motel on the side during eves and weekends.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/14/2006 9:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Goes to show that we need to shake up the way we allow non-nationals to work in the US. Massive penalties for employers who hire them "under the table? A mandatory national database check to clear such workers? Is that too heavy-handed or unfeasible an attempt to try to block potential jihadis from entering the US? What do you all think?
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands || 08/14/2006 9:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Why would they need work visas? It is well-known that the United States does not enforce its own immigration laws.
Posted by: gromky || 08/14/2006 10:16 Comments || Top||

#12  I had once figured that the system needs to take a name, a birthdate and a social security number as proferred by the prospective employee. The system would spit out MATCH or NO MATCH, figuring that at least a valid SSN that belonged, say, to an anchor baby wouldn't be useful.

Unfortunately, there was this story showing how the Social Security Administration has been issuing SSNs to those unable to work under the category of "non-working". Of course if the card isn't shown to the employer, how would he know whether it is the Working or Non Working type?

I suppose the proposed match/non-match system needs to change to "can work" or "can't work" (for a variety of possible reasons, which the system probably wouldn't be able to tell... 'because of the privacy').
Posted by: eLarson || 08/14/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#13  ELarson, I came up with an alternative scheme that would leverage the existing Mastercard/Visa software/hardware infrastructure.

The Employer takes individual's ZIP code of residence and their SSN, phones in to an 800 number associated with the government, and punches in the 5 digit zip code and the SSN, and his own SSN (if an individual) or the IRS assigned employer id. The two numbers are combined, stretched to 16 digits, and sent to the computers along with the area code of the caller. If the computer locates the ZIP+SSN, it's a valid ZIP+SSN, because the IRS/SSA would enter the combination into the database when the individual registers or files a tax return. The computer then extracts the ZIP code, compares it with the employers zip code as found in the IRS database using the employer id, and determines if the zip code is within 75 miles of the caller's zip-code (This allows for a long commute). If so, it's a PASS, AND the SSN is temporarily added to the employer's prospective employee data base. He then has a week to send in the paperwork if he hires.

For individuals, they type in their SSN, and the person is assigned to them temporarily.

There may be some loopholes in this system, but the advantage is that the government can create a system by replicating the existing Mastercard system and tweaking the code and database contents. Extra checks and penalties can be incrementally added on later, but the first cut ought to uncover the first 90% of scofflaws.

Meh. The Govt. would then probably still do NOTHING, but now because there would be too many leads...

Posted by: Ptah || 08/14/2006 10:57 Comments || Top||

#14  No. What I'm saying is that one of our construction sites was raided by INS a few weeks ago. 50 were questioned, 40 released, 10 deported. I can assure you that the 10 deported had the correct documentation, and that it was on file in the office.

So blaming the "employers" for the immigration problem overlooks the trade in fake ID's.
Posted by: Bobby || 08/14/2006 11:00 Comments || Top||

#15  Final Score : FBI-11, Egyptian Students-0

Box Score:
Posted by: BigEd || 08/14/2006 11:17 Comments || Top||

#16  Bobby-they may have had the correct documentation, but the socials would not have cross checked, right?
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands || 08/14/2006 11:18 Comments || Top||

#17  Mrs. Bobby works with high school students from all over the country during the school year for a week in DC. Her favorites are the former-Soviet-Union kids and the Moslem kids (exhange students).

(As an aside, her family had several Japanese exchange students while she was growing up, yet her Father has never forgiven the Japanese for Pearl Harbor. I need to ask him about that apparent incogruity.)

First, they are all very bright and eager to learn. They know more about America than many of the American kids! (who are not all bright and eager - surprise, surprise!)

Second, when they go back after a year in an American high school, they almost all say their perception of the US has changed. Hard to imagine it got worse while they were here, isn't it? Many plan to stay in touch with their host families. (Sadly, almost none admitted their perception of Israel changed.)

Third - some of the kids maintain some contact with their week-long DC "teachers" (and maybe others)and participated in the recent "Orange Revolution" in the Ukraine.

They see democracy at work in the US for a year, then the week of workshops, seminars, and tours in DC sort of drives it home. I met some at their going-away banquet last May, and they were very excited about going home and delighted with what Mrs. Bobby had taught them in a week.

One of the basic principles of the exchange program is that "It's harder to hate someone you know". Maybe if I knew certain MA and CA Senators better.....
Posted by: Bobby || 08/14/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#18  I donno, Jules. I believe my employer scrupously follows the requirements. We did have one guy who came back after the job was completed with a problem that was traced to letting someone use his Social Security card!

C'mon, amigo; I'll bring it right back!
Posted by: Bobby || 08/14/2006 11:27 Comments || Top||

#19  Several of the people they stayed with said the students were hoping to find jobs and stay here. it's possible that really is all there is to it.
We could of gave them a job right theree in Eqypt. Infiltrate Al Queda, and give us info. Be able to pay you better than you'd get just working here.
Besides, if that's all theree is, go through Mexico, like everyone else.
Posted by: plainslow || 08/14/2006 12:13 Comments || Top||

#20  stoodents dez daze need to be disciplined.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/14/2006 12:51 Comments || Top||

#21  Honestly, Captain America! It's spelt deez, 'cause of the long e. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/14/2006 15:06 Comments || Top||

#22  Maybe they just wanted to escape their rat-hole countries and live the good life here. Personally, I wouldn't blame 'em. If they were just being dumb kids, it's too bad their idiot countrymen have spoiled things for them so badly that they're now #1 terror suspects, instead of just dumb kids.
Posted by: ex-lib || 08/14/2006 17:28 Comments || Top||

#23  Has ANYONE gotten around to finding out WHY they didn't report to the colleges?

Still waiting for an answer on that one, JitH. An informal notification needs to be sent to all Islamic countries letting them know that any violation of visa terms by entrants will result in both a permanent ban of the individual and a reduced quota of visas for that country when they are next issued.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 18:27 Comments || Top||

#24  I hear these boys were accepted to the University of GITMO. Their first class is 'Handcuffs and Shackles 101'
Posted by: airandee || 08/14/2006 20:28 Comments || Top||

#25  I know a band that had a song called, "Somba Deez Dayz".
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/14/2006 20:50 Comments || Top||


Texas Terrs Targeting Mackinac Bridge
CARO, Mich. — Three Texas men were arraigned Saturday on terrorism-related charges after police found about 1,000 cell phones in their minivan, and prosecutors say they believe the men were targeting a bridge connecting Michigan's Upper and Lower peninsulas.

"All we did is buy the phones to sell and make money," Louai Abdelhamied Othman told the magistrate. He said authorities had previously stopped the group in North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin. "We've been checked by the FBI before," he said. "They even gave us their card and everything."
And you kept buying up cell phones and planning missions ...
Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark E. Reene told The Saginaw News that investigators believe the men were targeting the 5-mile long Mackinac Bridge. He declined to say what led investigators to that belief.
What's wrong with the Golden Gate Bridge? It would be a much bigger headline and you would have a much better chance of beating the rap.
Maybe less attention being paid to the Mac?
GG gets a LOT of attention. Due to the location, it is constantly under painting and other maintenance -- they work their way from one end to the other and then start over in a 3? year cycle.
Othman and Maruan Awad Muhareb, both of Mesquite, Texas, and Adham Abdelhamid Othman, of Dallas, were stopped before dawn Friday after they purchased 80 cell phones from a Wal-Mart in Caro. Police said they found about 1,000 cell phones in their minivan.

Adham and Louai Othman are brothers and are in their early 20s. Muhareb, 18, is their cousin. All are being held at the Tuscola County Jail, Caro police said. Muhareb told the magistrate: "This is a misunderstanding." He said he was selling the phones to earn money to help pay for his brother's college education.
I'm sure al-Q pays well, too.
We probably ARE nabbing some guys in these sorts of arrests who are relatively innocent .... in their countries of origin the ahem informal economy is so prevalent that they would be likely not to see anything wrong with this even if they were innocent.

Not that these guys seem to fit that profile. But even if they did, given the stakes, and the reality of terror threats, they're gonna have to learn the rules a lot quicker here.
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#1  Grrrrr. Now they're messing with My home state. Perhaps they picked it precisely because it is less obvious and less likely to be protected. Though it's no longer the longest in the world (probably not in the top 10 any more), it would still be a terrible loss, especially in the summer with all the vacationers and their children.

Oh, and we always spelled it "Mackinaw" for the city and the bridge. "Mackinac" was reserved for the island. Of course, that doesn't mean we were correct in doing so.
Posted by: Jackal || 08/14/2006 0:23 Comments || Top||

#2  We have had 5 years of this crap, after they gave us the pretext (9-11) of the millenium. And CAIR keeps telling us both that the perps are non representative of the "religion of peace," and that we have to ensure these terrorists get their Korans and halal foods.

And now Ahmadinejad looks at America, like the cat who is about to eat the canary. Things have to change, fast.
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 || 08/14/2006 1:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Jackal, I spent a few years in your home state and, based on what I recall, the Othmans may be severely underestimating the firepower contained in the closets and gun cabinets in those parts.
Posted by: JAB || 08/14/2006 1:08 Comments || Top||

#4  SS 3550 Things have to change, fast. Yes they do! If things are not turned around quickly we and the rest of the world are in for a lot of trouble.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 1:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Being from Texas, I cannot understand how we could have screwed up training these terrorists. I mean, there are a lot of bridges that connect to Mexico that should be blown. Oh, I forgot, the illegals can swim.
Posted by: Spavigum Glinens9851 || 08/14/2006 1:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Also, if only the three told the cops, "The illegals in Texas pay us $5 more for these 1,000 phones!" they would have just gotten a speeding ticket.
Posted by: Spavigum Glinens9851 || 08/14/2006 1:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Texas Terrorists Targeting Mackinac Bridge

What's wrong with the Golden Gate Bridge? It would be a much bigger headline and you would have a much better chance of beating the rap.


jeeze think of all the wadded SF panties in bunch, there'd be the mother of all seething spectacles focusing their HATE at Bush! :-)


bring it..
Posted by: RD || 08/14/2006 1:40 Comments || Top||

#8  The islamic cancer that is eating up Europe has now send metastatic cells to prepare the ground for the infection of America.
If Americans do not wake up NOW and realize what they are facing, the slow but steady demise of America is guaranteed.
It will take 25 years but it will happen (with a little help of American MSM, Noam Chomsky and the lunatic and rabid Berkley academics).
Destroying the local terrorist cells will not help. What is needed is a crucial devastating blow to the two heads of the Islamic snake Saudi Arabia and Iran.
You Americans must boldly face the two originating sources of the Islamic megalomaniac Chalifat wishing fanatics and destroy them and their poisonous influence once and for all.

You are already deep within WWIII without having realized it.
I hope the free spirit of Texans will guide you to take the right action at the right time.

Posted by: Elder of Zion || 08/14/2006 2:07 Comments || Top||

#9  RD:

I have a strong feeling that the President is going to do the right thing. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were only the first 2 chapters; that book is not finished. The question is: will a US President write Chapter 3?
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 || 08/14/2006 2:22 Comments || Top||

#10  SN 3550,
Either a US president will or Israel will.
It's all a question of timing. If GWB will not be able to justify a nuclear strike politically within the next 6 months, the Israeli PM will have to collect his cochones together and give the instructions.
If both dont have the guts to do this, the west has lost WWIII.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 08/14/2006 7:56 Comments || Top||

#11  I think one of those muzzie goat chasers will lite the fuze on a nuke long before we do. Surprised it has not happened already. They are just itchin to fire one off..... at the Joooooos of course.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/14/2006 7:59 Comments || Top||

#12  Remember, it does not have to be nuclear to be effective. Lots and lots of Daisy Cutters and such will do the trick.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/14/2006 8:06 Comments || Top||

#13  Neither the American or Israelis will attack the Iranians. Get used to a nuclear Iran and prepare your family for civil defense.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 8:13 Comments || Top||

#14  Bridges: Why do they hate us?
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 08/14/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||

#15  Bridges: Why do they hate us?

they're actually very non-judgmental
Posted by: Frank G || 08/14/2006 9:43 Comments || Top||

#16  btw - Capt. Ed points out that you do NOT make money selling phones, purchased at RETAIL prices, and selling to legitimate customers. Wholesale, maybe, but their story is BS
Posted by: Frank G || 08/14/2006 10:09 Comments || Top||

#17  Cell phones in the US are subsidized by rate plans. Many places overseas, one pays full price for the phones.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 10:15 Comments || Top||

#18  I would like to know how the police linked linked these guys to a Mackinac Bridge terrorist attack.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#19  Word is they were taking / had taken a lot of detailed photos of the bridge, apparently.
Posted by: lotp || 08/14/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#20  And New Yorkers were all bent because HS $ were being diverted to other areas. These rural areas in the Heartland have been ignored yet that is where they seem to be operating rather freely. I'm surprised the Egyptian students and the cell phone buyers were caught at all.
Posted by: Danielle || 08/14/2006 10:31 Comments || Top||

#21  I s'pect Michigan has more to worry about from Ohio State than these bozos.
Posted by: badanov || 08/14/2006 10:39 Comments || Top||

#22  We had two separate groups of these F**kwits doing exactly the same thing. The group in Ohio had already removed the control chips out of the phones and thrown the remainder into separate boxes. Both gave cops the same lame excuse of reselling for $5 more. What a coincidence. These asswipes need a Cuban vacation until we find out who organized this and what endgame they were playing. The fact that one group had several photos of Mackinac bridge may suggest something here, especially since the Michigan enclave is based nearby. Is there another concentration in Big D?
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 08/14/2006 11:07 Comments || Top||

#23  Oh, yes.
Posted by: lotp || 08/14/2006 11:25 Comments || Top||

#24  You know what's sad... that I saw this pic go up on another forum wrt this discussion.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2224/goeringhi4.jpg

And people agreed with it.
I fear that the West doesn't want to defend herself.
:(

I fear that we may be left with what Roger L. Simon wrote as the "horrible conclusion."
Posted by: Anon4021 || 08/14/2006 11:41 Comments || Top||

#25  An attack on the Mackinac Bridge seems pretty far-fetched, but the accumulation of cell phones points to some nefarious Islamic project, such as raising money to send to terrorist groups. I hope the Michigan prosecutors will at least charge the suspects with conspiracy to evade sales/use taxes. That, they can get a conviction on no matter what else happens.
Posted by: Ulelet Uniting8249 || 08/14/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#26  "That, they can get a conviction on no matter what else happens. "

I don't think so. Most likely, there will be a plea bargain resulting in community service.

Community service which results in 1-year Mackinac Bridge maintenance, priceless.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 08/14/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||

#27  What's wrong with the Golden Gate Bridge? It would be a much bigger headline and you would have a much better chance of beating the rap.


Why don’t sharks eat lawyers - Professional Courtesy.
Posted by: Hupasing Crath3963 || 08/14/2006 13:12 Comments || Top||

#28  This seems to be a very basic question, but one that needs answerin':

IF (and that's a big if, in my book) they were really doing this to just make money, why do it so far away from home? By that, I mean, with the cost of gas and all, why do it in Michigan when you live in Texas? Not enough "market share" in Dallas? PSHAW! Something's rotten in Denmark and the story (if true) of them having plans of the bridge itself is enough to throw the "making money" theory out the window.
Posted by: BA || 08/14/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||

#29  "Is there another concentration in Big D?"

They're here like flies on crap! Mostly Pakistanis, they hide themselves amongst our sizable Indian population.

I think there is going to be open season on them before too long. The muzzies that is. Got no beef with the Indians. No pun intended.


Posted by: Claimp Shens5396 || 08/14/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||

#30  Stop calling them Texans. They may have lived in Texas, but they ARE NOT TEXANS. Ever.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/14/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||

#31  they're actually very non-judgmental

Ima looking but my bridge collection hasn't been transfered to this computer yet.
Posted by: 6 || 08/14/2006 17:35 Comments || Top||

#32  Anon4021, fire up Photoshop and do up some rebuttals with these quotes:

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.
Sir Winston Churchill


An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last.
Sir Winston Churchill


The price of greatness is responsibility.
Sir Winston Churchill


Posted by: Parabellum || 08/14/2006 17:41 Comments || Top||

#33  If GWB will not be able to justify a nuclear strike politically within the next 6 months, the Israeli PM will have to collect his cochones together and give the instructions.

See below:

Remember, it does not have to be nuclear to be effective. Lots and lots of Daisy Cutters and such will do the trick.

Thank you for being the voice of reason, tw. The only way that nuclear weapons should be introduced into the equation is if there has been a substantial NBC (Nuclear, Biological or Chemical) attack on United States soil. Once that gate is passed then all bets are off. Until that time, the United States has a moral and ethical obligation to avoid first use of nuclear weapons.

We have JDAMs and MOABs aplenty and they will do the job just fine. A number of fuel air bombs set off near the ventilator apparatus of an underground bunker will literally pump the facility's air supply down to near-space vacuum. Staggered bombing sweeps allowing for evacuation of underground sites will catch emerging survivors and any doors left open will assist in a second round of pressure reduction.

As always, I will cite Mrs. Davis's plan which makes a whole lot of sense;

Simply inform all of the rogue regimes that a single NBC attack on American soil will result in ALL of the Islamic majority and terrorist sponsoring nations being glassed and Windexed. No last minute promises of realignment or pleas for pity will be permitted. Glass, smoking glowing glass and lots of it.
Posted by: Grinesing Croluper6420 || 08/14/2006 17:56 Comments || Top||

#34  And, of course, Grinesing Croluper6420 = Zenster
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 18:00 Comments || Top||

#35  btw - as Ace of Spades notes - they're supposedly selling the phones, stripped of batteries, Sim cards and charger for MORE than an intact phone costs retail. Tell me more stories about how they're so valuable overseas

Hmmm... sell phones with key components (charger, SIM card, battery) removed for more money than they cost retail. Sounds like a hell of a business model to me.

1) Buy at retail, not wholesale, or even discounted, prices.

2) Strip out phones of key components usually thought necessary for ordinary use of the phones.

3) Travel to terrorist-friendly Michigan and sell these phones for a greater mark-up than retail.

4) Profit.
Posted by: Frank G || 08/14/2006 18:26 Comments || Top||

#36  We could tell, by statistics, based on where a cellphone was sold (serial number) what probable ethnic group the person making the call was from, in places like Israel and the PAL Authority.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/14/2006 20:12 Comments || Top||

#37  Scuse ME, but isn't Dearborn, Michigan the Muslim Capital of America? AND wouldn't a target close to such a nest be a great hit and run target. Hit it and run back into the nest?
Posted by: Spavigum Glinens9851 || 08/14/2006 23:03 Comments || Top||

#38  Here's my take - the guys may have thought they were buying the phones for semi-legit business purposes. I think they were bought to be used as one-time throw away phones for operational cells here in the US. These guys are on to the fact we can do amazing things regarding tracking cell phone calls and locations. The idea they were shipping them verseas is really bogus. You can't swnng a dead cat in the third world without hitting a guy selling "used" (stolen) phones - trust me on that one.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy || 08/14/2006 23:14 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Mediation between rival sectarian groups fails
An attempt by leaders of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal to begin a settlement between rival sectarian groups Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Sipah-e-Muhammad has ended in failure.

MMA leaders Liaqat Baloch and Maulana Abdul Gahfoor Haidery approached leaders of the two militant organisations, both of which have been banned by the government, with the proposal that they pardon each other's members who are on death row, Baloch told Daily Times. The MMA leaders spoke first with LJ leaders, who consented to Baloch and Haidery taking the proposal to the SM. Baloch and Haidery proposed to Rashid Akbar Nawani, MNA from Bhakkar, that if he got a pardon for LJ militant Hafiz Shafiqur Rehman, convicted of murdering a Shia cleric in 1997, the LJ would try to get pardons for three SM militants -- Munawar Abbass, Qamar Abbas and Qazi Shahnawaz -- on death row in Dera Ghazi Khan Jail for the murder of LJ militant Aslam alias Achoo in Karor tehsil, Layyah district.

Baloch said they approached Nawani last month after President Gen Pervez Musharraf rejected Rehman's mercy petition. However, Nawani did not agree to the proposal, and Rehman was hanged at Multan jail on August 9. Lashkar-e-Jhangiv is a Sunni militant group and Sipah-e-Muhammad a Sunni [sic] militant group.
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Hospital blast kills nurse in Kohlu
A nurse died and two other people including a pregnant woman were injured when a bomb exploded in the gynaecology ward of a hospital in Kohlu district, officials said on Sunday. Police said they suspect that tribal rebels, who are fighting for greater autonomy and a share of profits from Balochistan's natural resources, could be involved in the blast. The bomb went off late on Saturday in the labour ward of a small hospital in Kohlu district, 400 kilometres southeast of Quetta, said local government official Ali Gul. "It killed a female nurse and wounded a patient and her 13-year-old daughter," he said. The injured were out of danger. "It was a terrorist attack," Gul said. Police official Talib Hussain said the "massive blast" destroyed the ward. Insurgents also blew up a pipeline supplying gas to Quetta late on Saturday, police said. The militants used about 1.5 kilogrammes of explosives to blow up the line, disrupting supplies to the city, police official Tariq Manzoor said.
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Kashmir Korpse Kount Kontinued
SRINAGAR, India - Indian soldiers shot dead three members of a Pakistan-based terrorist militant group in a gunbattle in Indian Kashmir, an army spokesman said on Sunday.

The clash broke out on Saturday evening near the town of Handwara, 80km (50 miles) north of Srinagar. ‘Three terrorists militants were killed in the night-long operation. They are Pakistani nationals and belong to Lashkar-e-Taiba,’ army spokesman Hemant Joneja said.
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The bride with a bomb
Five days after the earthquake struck Kashmir in October last year, Ghulam Nabi sat in his shop in the south Kashmir town of Avantipura looking out at the highway that connects the Kashmir Valley to the Indian plains. Today, as every day, he saw hundreds of Indian military vehicles drive past. A hundred metres or so from his shop stands the local headquarters of the anti-insurgency wing of the Kashmir Police, and beyond that an Indian army camp.

Some of the most lethal attacks on Indian troops in the past few years have happened on this highway. It is an area dense with military and militants. That morning Nabi noticed even more soldiers and armed policemen on patrol than usual. An inspector general was visiting the police HQ and he wondered if a militant attack was expected. But, mostly, Nabi's thoughts were with the earthquake victims on both sides of the Line of Control, the temporary border dividing Kashmir into parts controlled by India and Pakistan.

Political discontent has simmered in the Indian-controlled sector of Kashmir since partition in 1947 - the more so in latter years as Kashmiri rights and autonomy were eroded. Wars, several insurgencies, and countless political manoeuvres have failed to settle the issue of the "ownership" of Kashmir, and since the mid-1990s the rebellion has taken on a more jihadi, pro-Pakistan aspect; secular Kashmiri separatist groups that have laid down their arms have been overshadowed. Peace talks between India and Pakistan have made little progress and death remains a constant visitor.
Continued on Page 49
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Kashmir Korpse Kount
SRINAGAR, India - Six people, including three suspected Pakistani terrorists rebels, were killed in fresh violence in Kashmir ahead of India’s Independence Day later this week, the army and police said Sunday. ‘The three Pakistani terrorists militants were killed during a gunbattle that erupted when troops laid a cordon around a village on a tip-off late Saturday,’ said spokesman Colonel Hemant Joneja.
That would be Mahmoud the Weasel reporting.
Fighting erupted after Indian troops, backed by counter-insurgency police, raided a hide-out in the village of Ringpait, about 80 kilometers (50 miles) north of Srinagar. ‘The slain terrorists militants are Pakistanis and belong to Lashkar-e-Taiba,’ Joneja said, referring to the Kashmiri terrorist militant group.

In the neighbouring district of Baramulla an Indian security officer was killed and two others injured in a late night ambush by terrorists militants. In another incident, Indian troops shot dead a senior commander belonging to the region’s most powerful terrorist militant group, Hizbul Mujahedin, in southern Doda district on Sunday, police said.

Suspected terrorists militants also fired at two teenaged Kashmiri sisters Sunday in southern Pulwama district killing one and wounding the other, police said. The motive behind the attack was unclear.
Maybe to 'terrorize' them?
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Iraq
US, Iraqis Comb Al-Doura 'hood
Iraqi and Coalition forces are systematically combing through businesses and homes in the southern Baghdad neighborhood of Al-Doura as part of a continuing operation to stem the tide not swelling, or surging or anything else. MNF press release. of violence plaguing the capital’s 6 million residents, U.S. and Iraqi commanders said Thursday.

Iraqi security forces and Soldiers from the 4th Infantry Division have been conducting Operation Together Forward, a combined Iraqi –U.S. operation focused on areas of the city at risk for violence, said Col. Michael Beech, commander of the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division.

Beech said more than 5,000 Soldiers have been conducting focused operations in mahalas, or city districts, of the Al-Doura area. He said every home and business within the targeted mahalas is being searched. “The purpose of our operations is to significantly and radically reduce the amount of murders, kidnappings, assassinations and sectarian violence,” Beech said.

Brig. Gen. Obd al-Karim, commander of the 6th Brigade, 2nd Iraqi National Police Division, said the operation has both military and political components. “As for the political part, we went out of our way to actually meet with the imams and religious leaders. We also met with the district advisory council of the Rasheed district. Our main goals are to re-establish security in this (Al-Doura) area. The second goal is to provide essential services to the residents. The third goal is to stop migration of residents and bring back those who have been forced out of their homes,” al-Karim said.

Al-Karim listed weapons, explosives and stolen vehicles seized in the operation thus far and said 38 suspected insurgents, including three foreign fighters, have been detained. He said an improvised explosive device facility was also discovered.

The Iraqi commander said he has spoken with residents of the neighborhood throughout the operation. “Most are comfortable and actually very glad of the operations and security we are providing in the area,” he said.

Beech said the Al-Doura sweep is only a part of the operation to quell the violence in the city. “What we’re doing here in (Al) Doura is one small piece of a much larger and broader operation that’s going on across Baghdad,” Beech said.


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#1  Yet it was from this neighborhood that missiles were launched yesterday. Guess they need a finer-toothed comb - maybe one of those nit combs that come with the de-lousing shampoos.
Posted by: Department of Homeland Security || 08/14/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Or perhaps the bad guys were shooting them off before they were taken away.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/14/2006 15:25 Comments || Top||


Blasts kill 62 in Shiite area of Baghdad
Let's try it again - this time with the link.
Car bombs and a rocket barrage struck a predominantly Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad on Sunday, killing at least 62 people, a municipal official said. The rockets apparently were fired from a mostly Sunni district targeted by U.S. troops in a crackdown against the sectarian violence roiling the capital.

About 140 were injured in the attack on the Zafraniyah neighborhood in southern Baghdad, which began about 7:15 p.m. with two car bombs and a barrage of an estimated nine rockets, Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Saddoun Abu al-Ula said.

He said the barrage heavily damaged three buildings, including a multi-story apartment house that collapsed. Al-Ula said the rockets appeared to have been fired from the neighborhood of Dora, which has been the focus of thousands of U.S. troops sent to try to restore peace in Baghdad.

The complex style of the assault was similar to a July 27 attack of mortars, rockets and car bombs on another mostly Shiite district, Karradah, which killed 31 people. Police said the rockets and mortars that struck Karradah also were fired from Dora.

A Sunni extremist group, the al-Sahaba Soldiers, claimed responsibility for the Karradah attack to punish Shiites for supporting the "crusaders," or Americans, and the "treacherous" Iraqi government.

Earlier Sunday, the U.S. command announced that soldiers of the 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division had arrested a key terrorist cell leader who was "directly linked" to the July 17 attack on an outdoor market in Mahmoudiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad.

The statement said the arrest was made Thursday but did not give the suspect's name. Gunmen believed to be Sunnis opened fire on shoppers and vendors in the Mahmoudiya market during last month's attack, killing at least 51 people and wounding more than 70. Most of the victims were Shiites.

On Sunday, Health Minister Ali al-Shemari, a member of a Shiite group that operates a militia, said American soldiers arrested seven of his bodyguards in a pre-dawn raid on his office.

"There was no legal warrant, there was no prior warning to the ministry, How odd! there was no reason to arrest them. It is a provocation," said al-Shemari, a member of the movement led by radical Shiite cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr, head of the biggest Shiite militia, the Mahdi Army.

However, a U.S. military statement said coalition forces received a tip from a resident that "15 criminals wearing Iraqi army uniforms" had kidnapped six people and taken them to the Ministry of Health building.

Iraqi and U.S. soldiers searched the building and did not find any kidnap victims. But five detainees were taken in for questioning "based on their positive identification by the tipster," the statement said, without elaborating.

It was not clear if the raid was linked to the June disappearance of a Sunni provincial health official, Dr. Ali al-Mahdawi, who vanished after a meeting with the minister. Just a coincidence? Sunnis claimed al-Mahdawi was kidnapped by Shiite militiamen.

Al-Shemari denied any knowledge of al-Mahdawi's disappearance and said he had interviewed him for a senior post in the ministry.
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#1  Boy, Sahr's army is'nt very good is it. You'd think with the great training they get from Iran, they could do better than this in thier own land. Assuming Iran cares at all.
Posted by: plainslow || 08/14/2006 8:04 Comments || Top||

#2  At least these Sunnis are better shots than Hizb'allah.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 8:07 Comments || Top||

#3  BAGHDAD, Iraq - Residents dug through wrecked buildings and swept glass off the streets Monday in a predominantly Shiite neighborhood devastated by explosions that killed at least 47 people. Iraqis blamed bombs, but U.S. military experts pointed to a natural gas explosion.

U.S. ordnance teams went to the Zafraniyah neighborhood and found “no evidence” of anything other than a “significant gas explosion” Sunday night followed by subsequent blasts related to a gas leak, the U.S. military spokesman, Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell, said. "If in fact there had been a hole in the ground, there would be some residue from a Katyusha rocket if one had been fired there,” he told reporters.

Iraqi officials insisted the damage was caused by car bombs and a rocket barrage fired from Dora, a mostly Sunni district - evidence that sectarian violence roiling the capital shows no sign of stopping despite an additional 12,000 U.S. and Iraqi troops soldiers rushed in to enforce peace. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s office said in a statement that the attack started with a number of Katyusha rockets falling on a building followed by a car bomb, more rockets on a post office, a motorcycle bomb near a public library and mortar rounds near an Armenian church. The statement said 47 people were killed and 100 injured.

“The terrorists planned this ugly crime so that it would inflict maximum harm on innocent civilians, and this is proof of their deep-rooted hatred for Iraq and their attempt to incite sectarianism,” al-Maliki said.
Posted by: Steve || 08/14/2006 12:44 Comments || Top||

#4  The secret plan.......

Suicide by islam
Posted by: kelly || 08/14/2006 17:03 Comments || Top||


Ten killed in rocket and bomb attack in Baghdad
BAGHDAD - At least 10 people were killed and 56 wounded when a rocket attack demolished a building and a car bomb hit rescuers rushing to the scene in Baghdad on Sunday, an interior ministry official said. The twin explosions knocked down a four-storey building in the Zafaraniyah district of the Iraqi capital, the official and a witness said.

‘A Katyusha rocket landed on a building in the Al-Qubyasi market. Five minutes later, 100 metres (yard) away from this building a car bomb went off,’ said the official after the blasts, which erupted at about 7:00 pm (1500 GMT).

A medical official who lives in the district and who saw the attacks told AFP: ‘There are dozens of bodies in the street. The building just collapsed. It was four-storeys, with homes and shops.’

‘Civil defence personnel are trying to get bodies out of the building. The shops underneath are destroyed,’ he said.

A third blast, apparently a roadside bomb, targeted a police patrol heading for the scene, the interior ministry official added. Three officers were wounded in this apparent follow-up attack, he said.
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#1  "A Katyusha rocket landed "

Delivery from Iran to HizbAllah got sidetracked to Mookie?
Posted by: Department of Homeland Security || 08/14/2006 7:25 Comments || Top||

#2  An unlikely explanation has been issued by the U.S. Military. Investigation of explosions in Baghdad must be like documenting every explosion in a very large fireworks display.
Posted by: Ulelet Uniting8249 || 08/14/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#3  It may not be so unlikely. Natural gas leaks and explosions are not unheard of even where infrastructure is well-maintained. Of course, sometimes natural gas explosions in Baghdad are 'on purpose' - the terrorists soup up their car bombs with propane bottles.
Still, if we say there weren't rockets, we either had a reason to say it, or there really weren't rockets. What might be a reason to lie, if that's what it was? It's not like these guys are pathologic liars (like some politicians we know.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/14/2006 12:58 Comments || Top||


Iraqi forces raid health ministry
BAGHDAD - Iraqi and US troops hunting alleged kidnappers raided the health ministry Sunday, arresting five suspects. ‘Acting on an Iraqi citizen’s tip regarding kidnap victims, Iraqi forces with US advisers searched the Ministry of Health at about 2:30 am and detained five for further questioning,’ an official from the US-led coalition said.

Following the raid, health workers mounted a small non-violent anti-American protest outside the ministry, to demand the release of the detainees, whom an official described as bodyguards to the minister, Ali al-Shamari.

Senior health ministry official Hakim al-Zamli said US and Iraqi troops arrived in the early hours and had captured seven suspects. He told AFP the troops had taken 50 million dinars (38,000 dollars) in cash. Zamli said health workers had gone on strike in protest at the raid, but that emergency health services would be maintained. ‘Our demands are the release of the detainees, a promise not to raid the ministry, compensation for the damages and an official apology,’ he told AFP.

But the coalition official, speaking on condition of anonymity because an official statement on the raid was being prepared, said the raid was carried out after Iraqi forces received information relating to a kidnapping. ‘It is for the benefit of the Iraqi people that these forces conducted the search and detained the suspects for further questioning,’ he said.

Iraq’s ministries are controlled by rival factions within the country’s fragile coalition government, and ministers’ bodyguards have sometimes been accused of acting as private militias in the brutal world of Baghdad politics.
Oh there's a surprise.
The health ministry is headed by a Shiite minister who is a member of the United Iraqi Alliance (UIA) party and is regarded as close to the radical anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
2 Fox News journalists kidnapped in Gaza
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Palestinian gunmen ambushed a car carrying a Fox News crew in Gaza City on Monday and kidnapped two of the journalists inside, according to witnesses and Fox. "We can confirm that two of our people were taken against their will in Gaza," Fox News said in a statement.

A Fox employee in Gaza, who declined to give his name because he was not authorized to release information about the incident, said the two kidnapped people were reporter Steve Centanni, a U.S. citizen, and a cameraman from New Zealand.

The men, along with a bodyguard, were parked near the headquarters of the Palestinian security services when two trucks filled with gunmen pulled up and boxed them in, according to the employee. The gunmen took the two out of their sports utility vehicle, which was marked "TV," and drove away, he said.

Major militant groups in Gaza denied having any connection to the abduction, and there was no immediate word of any demands made.

Security officials put police across Gaza on alert to find the gunmen and free the journalists, said Interior Ministry spokesman Khaled Abu Hilal.

"This is not acceptable at all," he said.

Several foreigners have been kidnapped in Gaza in recent months with their abductors demanding jobs from the Palestinian Authority or the release of people being held in Palestinian jails. All those kidnapped have been released within hours without harm.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/14/2006 15:26 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unfortunately, the paleos know that the Fox News reporters are harder to spin.

If they were NYT, ABC or CNN, the paleos would give them a medal. The fact that they work for Fox News does not bode well for their release.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 08/14/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#2  OTOH, should any harm come to them, no other mainstream news organization would do a better job of stirring up American anger and mobilizing American public opinion even more against Palestinians than Fox. Careful, Palestine. You just stepped in it. Israel will have a freer hand now with bigtime American approval.
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands || 08/14/2006 15:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Return our FOX guyz, now, assholes.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/14/2006 16:13 Comments || Top||

#4  This is not good. Fox has been on Israel's side this whole event. Time for Israel to pull a hat trick on this one!
Posted by: 49 Pan || 08/14/2006 16:15 Comments || Top||

#5  My prayers are w/Steve Centanni & his cameraman.

It would seem the Paleos are trying to goad America into action. I for one would have no problem going there and getting our guy back if the call came down. They need to learn that f*cking w/even one American will bring the wrath of God on their stupid heads.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 08/14/2006 17:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Steve Centanni seems like a straight guy. I hope he is O.K. Might be easier to rescue him out of Gaza then Lebanon. Intel might also be better.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Touch Patti Ann and reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: 6 || 08/14/2006 17:40 Comments || Top||

#8  Intimidation of journalists works. You can bet the next FOX crew in Gaza will be walking on egg shells. Message received by all news media.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 17:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Is it my imagination, or has Fox completely clammed up on this? There doesn't seem to be anything on the web site, and I caught a Fox Middle East update that didn't mention it.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 08/14/2006 19:46 Comments || Top||

#10  So, after all this, Palestine thinks it would be prudent to take Americans Hostage as well?

Very, Very Unwise.
Posted by: newc || 08/14/2006 19:50 Comments || Top||

#11  So, after all this, Palestine thinks it would be prudent to take Americans Hostage as well?

Very, Very Unwise.
Posted by: newc || 08/14/2006 19:50 Comments || Top||

#12  So, after all this, Palestine thinks it would be prudent to take Americans Hostage as well?

Very, Very Unwise.


Bullshit. We'll do fuck-all to the Palestinians over this. Well, that's not quite right. We'll hand them a great big wad of cash, a couple of freighters full of guns and ammunition, and strongarm the Israelis into giving them more greenhouses to trash.

Face it, folks, our civilization doesn't want to live. The only open question is how long the corpse will stay warm and how much damage it will do while it's thrashing around.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/14/2006 21:18 Comments || Top||

#13  RC-I want to live. I am just one, but there are other just ones who want to live, too. However many of us there are, we need to start a chain reaction of pressure on Palestine and Lebanon, not get discouraged.

Arab culture is given a lot of credit for patience and focus, but they are not the only culture who can hang tough for the golden prize. The American Revolution holds a lot of cues for us to follow again.

The Islamic realm will keep fu**ing up-we'll have plenty of material to work with for persuading our currently nonchalant countrymen of how much is on the line-if we keep the pressure up and keep the film rolling. I am frustrated like you, but we need to remember why Americans have confidence in the first place-our ideas are the world's best hope and we will stand steadfast for those ideas.

Where I see failure is in the House and Senate-where are the representatives who have the power to really make Palestine pay for this? Or is the US gonna pull an Olmert, where we sigh and hedge and then cede the alpha role, only to regret it afterwards in the media? America's leaders-get on the ball. We can stand behind you, if you actually take a stand.
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands || 08/14/2006 22:08 Comments || Top||


IDF Shot Down Two Unmanned Hizbullah Drones Loaded with Explosives
(IsraelNN.com) The IDF announced on Sunday night that it has shot down two unmanned Hizbullah drones loaded with explosives.

One drone was shot down over Kibbutz Cabri, and the other over Lebanese territory.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/14/2006 02:24 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hizzies. not Hezzies - don't these guys know nuclear war will start in 10 days on Aug. 22nd? PRAVDA says so ala Bernard Lewis.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/14/2006 2:42 Comments || Top||

#2  The Buzz Bomb. Hitler's secret weapon of terror. Any Buzz Bomb graphics available?
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/14/2006 7:18 Comments || Top||

#3 
It's somewhat ironic that a farleftist pinko type would have the temerity to use the word "Pravda" in describing the Wall Street Journal. I guess some people have no shame. For those interested in the truth and not the "pravda" version, I exerpted the Lewis quote that was purposely misquoted.


"In Islam, as in Judaism and Christianity, there are certain beliefs concerning the cosmic struggle at the end of time--Gog and Magog, anti-Christ, Armageddon, and for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil, however these may be defined. Mr. Ahmadinejad and his followers clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced. It may even have a date, indicated by several references by the Iranian president to giving his final answer to the U.S. about nuclear development by Aug. 22. This was at first reported as "by the end of August," but Mr. Ahmadinejad's statement was more precise.
What is the significance of Aug. 22? This year, Aug. 22 corresponds, in the Islamic calendar, to the 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427. This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq, first to "the farthest mosque," usually identified with Jerusalem, and then to heaven and back (c.f., Koran XVII.1). This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary of the world. IT IS FAR FROM CERTAIN THAT MR. AHMADINEJAD PLANS ANY SUCH CATACLYSMIC EVENTS PRECISELY FOR AUG. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind."
Posted by: Clolutle Slans5753 || 08/14/2006 8:14 Comments || Top||

#4  There's a WWII memorial in the square in Greencastle Indiana with one of those bad boys sitting on top of it, at least it used to be there in the 50's and 60's. Anyone confirm?
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/14/2006 12:52 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Hezbo Soldiers Were Crying for Help
During the battles over the weekend, Hizbullah men who were in genuine distress were crying out for help," the officer said, referring to battles in the western sector. The IDF official added that throughout the fighting it was easy to spot Iranian assistance to Hizbullah.

"It was an Iranian front," the officer told Ynet.

Meanwhile, most forces who entered southern Lebanon over the weekend are still there, with the exception of members of the Herev regiment, who operated in the western sector for 30 straight days. The troops returned to Israel for a break but may still be called upon to return to Lebanon. "They said their beards are longer than Nasrallah's," a senior officer said.
Probably rodent free also
Posted by: Captain America || 08/14/2006 16:24 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, what exactly is the point of being in S. Lebanon if the IDF is not even rounding up weapons and rockets?
Posted by: Iblis || 08/14/2006 16:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Iblis, they are there because it may come to that. At the moment, I suspect IDF is going through recon/inventory phase. Chances are (better than 50%) that Hezbully will not uphold ceasefire.
Posted by: twobyfour || 08/14/2006 17:06 Comments || Top||

#3  DEBKAfile: Hizballah is filtering reinforcements into South Lebanon among returning refugees. They are taking up positions in the still undamaged bunkers and fortified civilian dwellings

August 15, 2006, 12:01 AM (GMT+02:00)

Therefore, although the rockets and guns were silent up to Monday night and thousands of displaced people in Israel and Lebanon headed for their ravaged homes, DEBKAfile’s military sources report trepidation about the durability of the ceasefire. The tense calm was marred only by three incidents in which Israeli troops shot Hizballah fighters making threatening approaches after Israel ordered its ground, air, artillery and naval forces to hold their fire at 0800 Monday Aug. 14 – unless threatened.

Northern Israelis came out of their bomb shelters after 33 days, South Lebanese cars clogged roads heading south from Beirut Monday morning. Both met scenes of destruction. After night fell, Hizballah staged victory celebrations in Beirut, while its leader, Hassan Nasrallah proclaimed a “historic and strategic victory” over Israel.

The IDF’s northern command watching the thousands of displaced Lebanese flocking to their homes feared they would be used as cover for Hizballah to exploit the ceasefire for reinforcing its depleted South Lebanese forces.

By afternoon, their fears were realized: cars loaded with Hizballah fighters, boxes of guns and military equipment were clearly visible heading south. Israeli troops were not authorized to stop them. DEBKAfile quotes a senior military source as saying that Hizballah is making a mockery of the ceasefire which Israel honored. “The situation is dangerous,” he said, Most of Hizballah’s fortifications, including its bunker network in the south, were not destroyed as reported. Fresh Hizballah strength is now heading back to man those war stations anew.

Earlier Monday, Lebanon’s Shiite parliament speaker Nabih Berrir asked for 48 hours to persuade Hassan Nasrallah to accept a new proposal for Hizballah forces to remain in the south with their arms as an auxiliary force attached to the Lebanese army units to be deployed south of the Litani River.

Israeli troops inside Lebanon will hold their positions until a strengthened international force and the Lebanese army are able to take over.
Posted by: Legolas || 08/14/2006 17:14 Comments || Top||

#4  It's not surprising that Hezboschmucks are filtering reinforcements into South Lebanon; what is crazy, though, is that the Israeli troops are not authorized to stop the cars loaded with Hizballah fighters, boxes of guns and military equipment.

Who gave that stupid order ?
Why are the Israeli leaders behaving in a so masochistic way ?
Posted by: leroidavid || 08/14/2006 18:18 Comments || Top||

#5  The Tranzi leaders of Israel?

Posted by: 3dc || 08/14/2006 18:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Perfect graphic. Bravo. To hell with crying, wait until the bubbles stop coming up.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 21:19 Comments || Top||


Israeli Soldiers Still 'Ready to Rumble' Till Kidnapped Returned
Reserve soldiers called up by the army to join the fighting in Lebanon began Monday to circulate a petition where they protest the fact abducted IDF soldiers in Lebanon have not yet been released.

The troops, who are just outside Lebanon at this time, already managed to get hundreds of signatures on the petition.

Yisrael Kasirar, one of the soldiers who initiated the petition, told Ynet:: "Reserve soldiers feel solidarity with the substance of the petition and it's circulating among many of them who are willing to sign it. The signing is taking place despite the current conditions, where reserve soldiers are spread across various areas in the north of the country."

The petition reads: "We, reserve soldiers who were called up for emergency duty, view with severity the acceptance of the ceasefire agreement in its current format, as a result of the abandonment of the abducted soldiers. We regret the fact that the fog of battle blurred the original war objectives we were enlisted for and the IDF values we were educated on. We're determined to complete the mission until the return of the abducted soldiers."

Kasirar says his comrades and him are willing to continue with reserve duty for many days and not come home until the mission is completed.

"We were in Lebanon, we fought in the Marjayoun region, our friends were killed and wounded, and we feel that the war objective was not achieved," he said, and added that initiators of the petition intend to forward it to as many reserve troops, including those currently in Lebanon.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/14/2006 16:08 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  True men and brothers. I salute them for their courage and solidarity. Onward Hebrew warriors!
Posted by: Elmolutch Ebbeatle6080 || 08/14/2006 16:56 Comments || Top||

#2  I would be a lot more willing to believe all the analysts who are saying that the ceasefire is a victory for Israel if Israel had actually gotten her guys back. Isn't that what they went to war for? Until they are home, Israel has not succeeded, in my opinion.
Posted by: WhitecollarRedneck || 08/14/2006 17:09 Comments || Top||

#3  DEBKAfile: Hizballah is filtering reinforcements into South Lebanon among returning refugees. They are taking up positions in the still undamaged bunkers and fortified civilian dwellings

August 15, 2006, 12:01 AM (GMT+02:00)

Therefore, although the rockets and guns were silent up to Monday night and thousands of displaced people in Israel and Lebanon headed for their ravaged homes, DEBKAfile’s military sources report trepidation about the durability of the ceasefire. The tense calm was marred only by three incidents in which Israeli troops shot Hizballah fighters making threatening approaches after Israel ordered its ground, air, artillery and naval forces to hold their fire at 0800 Monday Aug. 14 – unless threatened.

Northern Israelis came out of their bomb shelters after 33 days, South Lebanese cars clogged roads heading south from Beirut Monday morning. Both met scenes of destruction. After night fell, Hizballah staged victory celebrations in Beirut, while its leader, Hassan Nasrallah proclaimed a “historic and strategic victory” over Israel.

The IDF’s northern command watching the thousands of displaced Lebanese flocking to their homes feared they would be used as cover for Hizballah to exploit the ceasefire for reinforcing its depleted South Lebanese forces.

By afternoon, their fears were realized: cars loaded with Hizballah fighters, boxes of guns and military equipment were clearly visible heading south. Israeli troops were not authorized to stop them. DEBKAfile quotes a senior military source as saying that Hizballah is making a mockery of the ceasefire which Israel honored. “The situation is dangerous,” he said, Most of Hizballah’s fortifications, including its bunker network in the south, were not destroyed as reported. Fresh Hizballah strength is now heading back to man those war stations anew.

Earlier Monday, Lebanon’s Shiite parliament speaker Nabih Berrir asked for 48 hours to persuade Hassan Nasrallah to accept a new proposal for Hizballah forces to remain in the south with their arms as an auxiliary force attached to the Lebanese army units to be deployed south of the Litani River.

Israeli troops inside Lebanon will hold their positions until a strengthened international force and the Lebanese army are able to take over.
Posted by: Legolas || 08/14/2006 17:14 Comments || Top||

#4  This war is far from over.
Posted by: DarthVader || 08/14/2006 17:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Interesting. Oh, to be a fly on the wall of PM OLmert's office the next few days!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/14/2006 17:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Anything silly happens across that border, those Soldiers are not returned, and Hizbollah is not disarmed - call up BiBi and Go to the Mattresses.
Posted by: newc || 08/14/2006 18:22 Comments || Top||

#7  There is no point in allowing the Shiites back south. The Israelis are just setting themselves up for a guerilla war. On the contrary, the Israelis should be deporting Shiites and bulldozing all signs of Shiite habitation until the hostages are returned unharmed and Hizb'allah disbanded.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 18:33 Comments || Top||


"Ceasefire" incidents continue
In second post-ceasefire incident, Israeli troops kill one of a group of armed Hizballah fighters at Banduriya in the central sector of South Lebanon at 1400 hours. Two hours earlier, they shot dead a Hizballah fighter who approached “in a threatening way” in Hadata village in west. Northern Israelis started coming out of bomb shelters after 33 days, South Lebanese cars clog roads heading south from Beirut Monday morning. Unexploded ordinance is a danger on both sides of the border.

At exactly 0800 local time, Israel ordered its ground, air, artillery and naval forces to hold their fire while standing ready for self-defense. Their orders are to hold their fire unless a “hazard is identified.” This is not precisely defined. Hizballah has not announced its acceptance of the ceasefire.

Officers of the IDF northern command fear the flow of returning displaced Lebanese who are circling round bombed roads and bridges to reach their homes in the south will be used as cover for Hizballah to exploit the ceasefire and reinforce its depleted South Lebanese forces.
Of course they will
Half a million Israelis who fled Hizballah attacks are advised to take no chances and wait for one quiet day to pass without rockets before returning. They will find their homes, towns, villages and farms in ruins.

DEBKAfile reports: Lebanon’s Shiite parliament speaker Nabih Berri has asked for 48 hours to try and persuade Hassan Nasrallah to accept a new proposal for Hizballah forces to remain in the south with their arms, attached as an auxiliary force to the Lebanese army units deployed south of the Litani River. Sunday, Nasrallah backtracked on its conditional commitment to the UN resolution's ceasefire. Meanwhile the Israeli troops inside Lebanon will hold to their positions until the 15,000 UN troops to boost UNIFIL and the Lebanese army take over.

Minutes before the ceasefire, two bomb trucks were identified and destroyed on their way to Israeli town of Metula on the Lebanese side of the border. S. Beirut was bombed all night up to the last minute as was Baalbek. A record 250 rockets fired Sunday killed one elderly man and injured 19 in several Galilee towns. Five Israeli soldiers died in combat Sunday. In the five weeks of this round of war, Israel suffered 166 dead - 114 servicemen and 52 civilians. Thousands were injured. More than 4,000 Hizballah rockets were launched against northern Israel. Israel reports up to 500 Hizballah fighters and commanders killed in the five-week war.
Posted by: Steve || 08/14/2006 08:17 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israeli troops kill one of a group of armed Hizballah fighters at Banduriya in the central sector of South Lebanon at 1400 hours. Two hours earlier, they shot dead a Hizballah fighter who approached “in a threatening way” in Hadata village in west.

Now that's my kind of cease-fire.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 08/14/2006 9:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Berri was really saying to deploy the Lebanese army as an auxiliary (and supply depot) of Hizb'allah. Quit pretending and remove all the muslims south of the Litani.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#3  114 servicemen dead is equivalent to 6450 US dead. 5.3 mil Jewish Israeli vs 300 mil US population.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 9:27 Comments || Top||

#4  The monkey seems to be having some trouble getting it's hand back out of the bottle, eh?
Posted by: mojo || 08/14/2006 10:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Ceasefire: "The small interval of time between successfully sending a hezzie to meet his virgins and targeting another."
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 08/14/2006 12:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Tehran: Hezbos Took a Beating

If you believe debka of course ...
Posted by: Legolas || 08/14/2006 12:20 Comments || Top||

#7  If you believe debka of course

Considering that Debka hate Olmert...
Posted by: gromgoru || 08/14/2006 13:34 Comments || Top||

#8  I've always thought the debka folks were somewhere at the right of Genghis Khan, which is one of the reasons I enjoy reading them.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/14/2006 14:15 Comments || Top||

#9  Debka is like Ernst Junger writing a warblog. :))
Posted by: borgboy || 08/14/2006 14:55 Comments || Top||

#10  Borgboy,
who the f**k is Ernst Junger ?
Excuse my ignorance.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 08/14/2006 15:38 Comments || Top||

#11  Sounds plausible that the IDF could have taken out many of the long range launchers. The IDF owns the skies and the Israeli's have outstanding sensor technology. They probably have pretty good intel on the ground too.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 08/14/2006 15:46 Comments || Top||

#12  DEBKAfile: Hizballah is filtering reinforcements into South Lebanon among returning refugees. They are taking up positions in the still undamaged bunkers and fortified civilian dwellings

August 15, 2006, 12:01 AM (GMT+02:00)

Therefore, although the rockets and guns were silent up to Monday night and thousands of displaced people in Israel and Lebanon headed for their ravaged homes, DEBKAfile’s military sources report trepidation about the durability of the ceasefire. The tense calm was marred only by three incidents in which Israeli troops shot Hizballah fighters making threatening approaches after Israel ordered its ground, air, artillery and naval forces to hold their fire at 0800 Monday Aug. 14 – unless threatened.

Northern Israelis came out of their bomb shelters after 33 days, South Lebanese cars clogged roads heading south from Beirut Monday morning. Both met scenes of destruction. After night fell, Hizballah staged victory celebrations in Beirut, while its leader, Hassan Nasrallah proclaimed a “historic and strategic victory” over Israel.

The IDF’s northern command watching the thousands of displaced Lebanese flocking to their homes feared they would be used as cover for Hizballah to exploit the ceasefire for reinforcing its depleted South Lebanese forces.

By afternoon, their fears were realized: cars loaded with Hizballah fighters, boxes of guns and military equipment were clearly visible heading south. Israeli troops were not authorized to stop them. DEBKAfile quotes a senior military source as saying that Hizballah is making a mockery of the ceasefire which Israel honored. “The situation is dangerous,” he said, Most of Hizballah’s fortifications, including its bunker network in the south, were not destroyed as reported. Fresh Hizballah strength is now heading back to man those war stations anew.

Earlier Monday, Lebanon’s Shiite parliament speaker Nabih Berrir asked for 48 hours to persuade Hassan Nasrallah to accept a new proposal for Hizballah forces to remain in the south with their arms as an auxiliary force attached to the Lebanese army units to be deployed south of the Litani River.

Israeli troops inside Lebanon will hold their positions until a strengthened international force and the Lebanese army are able to take over.
Posted by: Legolas || 08/14/2006 17:15 Comments || Top||

#13  Hizballah has not announced its acceptance of the ceasefire.

Then why in blue blazes has there been any sort of ceasefire? If the principal antagonist in this conflict refuses to sign on then there should be no respite. This is ridiculous.

For many decades now, Israel has been held to a higher standard of morality than her foes. It's time to impose honest double-entry bookkeeping upon the terrorists. If they do not want to act honorably, then they need to be disregarded entirely in terms of having access to the usual mechanisms of negotiation or truce.

Islam's facade as the religion of peace [spit!] is finally becoming dislodged and it is up to all self-respecting nations to rip the mask from these perfidous and conniving b@stards for once and all. Iran and Syria muct be caused to face serious consequences for their collusion in this current conflict or else there can be no talk whatsoever of actually fighting any Global War on Terrorism.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 21:01 Comments || Top||


WaPo Says Hizbollah is "Best Guerilla Force in the World"
Hizbollah is not a guerrilla force; it is a standing army, controlled by the Islamic Republic of Iran. Its tactics - use of human shields, civilian targeting, etc - are terror operations. Use of Napalm would have eliminated the terrorists within 3 days but Israel cannot use Napalm. WaPo promotes its surrenderist ideology by floating fictions.

...The fighters' Islamic faith and intense indoctrination reduced their fear of death, he noted, giving them an advantage in close-quarters combat and in braving airstrikes to move munitions from post to post. Hezbollah leaders also enhanced fighters' willingness to risk death by establishing the Martyr's Institute, with an office in Tehran, that guarantees living stipends and education fees for the families of fighters who die on the front.

"If you are waiting for a white flag coming out of the Hezbollah bunker, I can assure you it won't come," Brig. Gen. Ido Nehushtan, a member of the Israeli army's general staff, said in a briefing for reporters in the northern Israeli village of Gosherim. "They are extremists, they will go all the way."

Moreover, Hezbollah's military leadership carefully studied military history, including the Vietnam War, the Lebanese expert said, and set up a training program with help from Iranian intelligence and military officers with years of experience in the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s. The training was matched to weapons that proved effective against Israeli tanks, he added, including the Merkava main battle tank with advanced armor plating.

Wire-guided and laser-guided antitank missiles were the most effective and deadly Hezbollah weapons, according to Israeli military officers and soldiers. A review of Israel Defense Forces records showed that the majority of Israeli combat deaths resulted from missile hits on armored vehicles -- or on buildings where Israeli soldiers set up observation posts or conducted searches.
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 || 08/14/2006 02:06 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ay what point after Viet Nam was napalm given up as a weapon?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 8:38 Comments || Top||

#2  It's still in use. But now we have the more "environmentally friendly" firebomb made from jellied kerosine instead of gasoline. And it just happens to be harder to put out.
Posted by: ed || 08/14/2006 9:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Aw C'mon WaPo. Give yourself some credit. You're not bad guerillas yourselves.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 08/14/2006 9:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Napalm is any of a number of flammable liquids used in warfare, often jellied gasoline. Napalm is actually the thickener in such liquids, which when mixed with gasoline makes a sticky incendiary gel. It was developed by the U.S. in World War II by a team of Harvard chemists led by Louis Fieser, and the name comes from the use of the original chemicals, coprecipitated aluminium salts of naphthenic and palmitic acids, which were added to the flammable substance gasoline to cause it to gel. [1]

Napalm has been used recently in wartime by or against: Iran (1980–88), Israel (1967, 1982), Nigeria (1969), Brazil (1972), Egypt (1973), Cyprus (1974), Argentina (1982), Iraq (1980–88, 1991,2003-2006), Serbia (1994), Turkey (1974, 1997), Angola, United States.

In some cases, Napalm does not cause physical pain because it incapacitates and kills its victims very quickly. Those who do survive suffer 3rd degree burns, damaging the vascular dermis, which does not have pain receptors. However, victims who suffer 2nd degree burns from splashed napalm will be in significant amounts of pain. [6]
Posted by: Bobby || 08/14/2006 9:14 Comments || Top||

#5  "environmentally friendly" firebomb made from jellied kerosine
Yes, and it is amusing to watch the contortions that the DoD public affairs types go through to not talk about it, when questioned.

Incidentally, One of the nastier aspects of this type of weapon is that when larege cannisters are dropped from an aircraft, on impact it produces a thermal pulse that will ignite almost anything flammable up to ~50m from the incindiary. Near misses are as bad as direct hits.

IIRC, I saw a film of a tank set aligt from a near miss, and none of the stuff actualy came into contact with the tank.
Posted by: N guard || 08/14/2006 9:27 Comments || Top||

#6  I see no mention on how many of these supermen are now worm food.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/14/2006 11:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Hezballzh must have had a bunch of these jihadists killed. WaPO is not the best source for such a critique. It is a little early for such hyperbole.

I'm not an expert in these matters but it seems to me that Olhmert was lame in prosecuting the war. I wonder if he will survive this little war. He did not follow through on his military plan.

Resolution 1559 was never implemented or enforced. The U.S. should have laid it to Syria and Iran about shipping arms into Lebanon. Russia also brokered arms deals that put anti tank weapons in the hands of Hezballah. The U.S. was too busy trying to look like peace brokers in the mideast. "Jimmy Carterism" just does not work as a viable foreign policy with the islamos. U.N. resolution 1701 is not going to bring peace in the mideast. It is not difficult to look like a reasonable fighting force in view of the incompetence going on in the West.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||

#8  Is it just me, or does the Washington Post idolize anybody who opposes the US or its allies?
Posted by: RWV || 08/14/2006 14:38 Comments || Top||

#9  It's not you, RWV. The Washington Post have a bad case of BDS, the poor things.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/14/2006 15:31 Comments || Top||

#10  If WaPo is so ennamored with the Hezbos, they should move their HDQs to so. Lebanon.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/14/2006 16:14 Comments || Top||

#11  Fourth Estate becomes Fifth Column
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 17:59 Comments || Top||

#12  The rumor is that if you mix a standard kitchen dishwashing liquid with gasoline in the right proportions you have a fair approximation of napalm for use in Molotov cocktails.


Posted by: FOTSGreg || 08/14/2006 20:25 Comments || Top||

#13  Oh, yeah, just remembered, you can also, purportedly, mix in styrofoam (dissolved in gasoline) for even better results...


Posted by: FOTSGreg || 08/14/2006 20:26 Comments || Top||

#14  We just used orange Jell-O and gasoline when we were kids. Worked pretty well on our slagged out toys.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 21:03 Comments || Top||

#15  Try moth-balls. No not those moth-balls, the ones used to keep moths off wool
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/14/2006 21:09 Comments || Top||


UN-BROKERED TRUCE GOES INTO EFFECT IN LEBANON
A UN-brokered cease-fire meant to end more than a month of bitter fighting between Israel and Hezbollah went into effect Monday morning at 8 A.M.

Tension was high before and after the deadline. Israel launched new air strikes on Lebanon on Monday less than two hours before a UN-brokered truce was due to go into effect at 8 A.M.

Air raid sirens sounded in Haifa, Safed, and other hard-hit communities in the north as the truce deadline neared early Monday, as authorities braced for a possible last-minute salvo by Hezbollah gunners. But there were no reports of rockets.

The army is recommending that once the cease-fire takes effect, Israel should begin withdrawing its forces from Lebanon relatively quickly.

The intention is for the forces to move back to a line north of the border with Lebanon within about 10 days, or as soon as the Lebanese Army is ready to begin entering South Lebanon. This means that the IDF will not be conducting searches for Hezbollah fighters or arms caches in the areas that it has captured over the last few days, which the army defined as "the heart of the operational campaign" against Hezbollah.

Once the Lebanese Army is fully deployed in the south, together with a beefed-up UNIFIL force, the IDF troops will withdraw completely.

Sunday, five IDF soldiers were killed in the fighting and more than 30 were wounded, 10 of them seriously. In addition, despite the IDF's advance, Hezbollah fired some 250 rockets on Israel, the war's heaviest one-day total to date. The strikes killed one person and wounded dozens.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Defense Minister Amir Peretz and the chiefs of the defense establishment met Sunday night to discuss the cease-fire, and Olmert ordered the army to begin abiding by it as of 2 A.M. Monday morning, other than in cases of self-defense.

But Israeli air strikes went on well after that time, targeting areas in eastern Lebanon and near the southern city of Sidon, the security sources said. Fierce clashes between Israeli troops and Hizbollah were also reported early on Monday.

The eleventh-hour airstrike hit an office of the pro-Syrian Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine General-Command on the edge of the Ein el-Hilweh refugee camp in the southern city of Sidon. One person, a garbage collector, was killed and three civilians who lived nearby were wounded, security officials said.

Air strikes on the village of Brital near Lebanon's eastern border with Syria overnight killed at least nine civilians, medics said.

Olmert and the defense chiefs also agreed that the IDF will begin withdrawing some of its forces from Lebanon immediately, but will remain in various positions that offer control over surrounding areas until these positions can be handed over to the Lebanese Army and the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL).

As of Sunday night, the IDF had begun removing the first reservist units out of Lebanon. Over the coming days, the remaining forces will be gradually reduced, and in some cases, reservists will be replaced with regular army units.

IDF sources admitted that in the time remaining until the cease-fire takes effect, the army will only manage to reach the Litani River - which was the goal of the current offensive - in a few places.

Late Sunday night, the General Staff drafted new rules of engagement for the forces that will remain in Lebanon once the cease-fire goes into effect. Army sources told Haaretz that the new rules will allow soldiers to open fire at any Hezbollah fighter who endangers them. If necessary - meaning if troops are endangered, if wounded men need to be evacuated or if a pinned-down force needs to be rescued - commanders will also be able to call in helicopter fire, fighter jets and artillery.

As soon as the cease-fire takes effect, the IDF will order its ground forces to halt their advance. In addition, Israel is considering lifting its naval and air blockade of Lebanon. If it does so, it will also cease firing on trucks crossing the border from Syria into Lebanon, which may enable Hezbollah to acquire a new arms supply - particularly since large weapons shipments from both Iran and Syria are known to be waiting on the Syrian side of the border. In addition, the IDF will not conduct bombing raids in Beirut or other places deep in Lebanon's interior.

The IDF believes that the cease-fire might well lead Hezbollah to stop its rocket fire on Israel, though Military Intelligence also suggested that the organization might try to fire long-range rockets at the Tel Aviv area in the final hours before the cease-fire takes effect, in order to "have the last word."

However, Hezbollah is considered likely to continue attacking the ground forces that are slated to remain inside Lebanon until the Lebanese Army and UNIFIL take over.

As a result, defense establishment officials are doubtful that the cease-fire will hold.
I expect to have an update within the hour that the ceasefire is broken.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/14/2006 01:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Might as well consider the truce still born.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 1:14 Comments || Top||

#2  DOA
Posted by: RD || 08/14/2006 1:17 Comments || Top||

#3  IDF sources admitted ... the army will only manage to reach the Litani River ... in a few places.

Too little too late - a botched campaign due to political intransigence at the beginning.
Posted by: Oldspook || 08/14/2006 1:27 Comments || Top||

#4 
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 08/14/2006 1:39 Comments || Top||

#5  From Jpost at 8:25. Not clear if happened before or after CF came into effect.

Following a ceasefire decleration between Israel and Lebanon, Palestinians stepped up their Kassam attacks Monday morning. Two Kassams struck the marina in Ashkelon, causing one person to go into shock. There was no report of damage.

Posted by: phil_b || 08/14/2006 1:41 Comments || Top||

#6  FREEREPUBLIC.com > Lebanon's UN Ambassador - the new ceasefire will be Israel's last with any ME country + Lebanon's govt will not force HIZBOLLAH to disarm to leave south Lebanon. Once again, the Great Satan is in the differences in spelling between Syrian HEZBOLLAH vs. Iranian HIZBOLLAH.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/14/2006 1:46 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah...the UNtruce
Posted by: Slomogum Wheregum5256 || 08/14/2006 5:07 Comments || Top||

#8  Since the ceasefire came into effect
Hizbullah gunman hit by IDF fire in southern Lebanon

Hizbullah emerges from hiding, renews broadcasts

Posted by: gromgoru || 08/14/2006 6:12 Comments || Top||

#9  NPR reported this morning that Lebanese civilians are streaming southward toward their homes, and Israeli civilians are streaming northward toward theirs. I await confirmation from actual witnesses.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/14/2006 8:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Death Wish VI?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 8:42 Comments || Top||

#11  Displaced Lebanese civilians and Hezbollah reinforcements are swarming towards the war zone of southern Lebanon to take advantage of a "cease fire." -- That's a more accurate headline.
Posted by: Ulelet Uniting8249 || 08/14/2006 12:09 Comments || Top||

#12  Most likely jihadists from everywhere are streaming into southern Lebanon.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/14/2006 12:18 Comments || Top||

#13  And why did this "truce" go into effect, seeing as how the Hezzies explicitly said they won't honor it?

Not that anyone with 2 brain cells ever thought they would.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/14/2006 16:44 Comments || Top||

#14  DEBKAfile: Hizballah is filtering reinforcements into South Lebanon among returning refugees. They are taking up positions in the still undamaged bunkers and fortified civilian dwellings

August 15, 2006, 12:01 AM (GMT+02:00)

Therefore, although the rockets and guns were silent up to Monday night and thousands of displaced people in Israel and Lebanon headed for their ravaged homes, DEBKAfile’s military sources report trepidation about the durability of the ceasefire. The tense calm was marred only by three incidents in which Israeli troops shot Hizballah fighters making threatening approaches after Israel ordered its ground, air, artillery and naval forces to hold their fire at 0800 Monday Aug. 14 – unless threatened.

Northern Israelis came out of their bomb shelters after 33 days, South Lebanese cars clogged roads heading south from Beirut Monday morning. Both met scenes of destruction. After night fell, Hizballah staged victory celebrations in Beirut, while its leader, Hassan Nasrallah proclaimed a “historic and strategic victory” over Israel.

The IDF’s northern command watching the thousands of displaced Lebanese flocking to their homes feared they would be used as cover for Hizballah to exploit the ceasefire for reinforcing its depleted South Lebanese forces.

By afternoon, their fears were realized: cars loaded with Hizballah fighters, boxes of guns and military equipment were clearly visible heading south. Israeli troops were not authorized to stop them. DEBKAfile quotes a senior military source as saying that Hizballah is making a mockery of the ceasefire which Israel honored. “The situation is dangerous,” he said, Most of Hizballah’s fortifications, including its bunker network in the south, were not destroyed as reported. Fresh Hizballah strength is now heading back to man those war stations anew.

Earlier Monday, Lebanon’s Shiite parliament speaker Nabih Berrir asked for 48 hours to persuade Hassan Nasrallah to accept a new proposal for Hizballah forces to remain in the south with their arms as an auxiliary force attached to the Lebanese army units to be deployed south of the Litani River.

Israeli troops inside Lebanon will hold their positions until a strengthened international force and the Lebanese army are able to take over.
Posted by: Legolas || 08/14/2006 17:15 Comments || Top||

#15  And why did this "truce" go into effect, seeing as how the Hezzies explicitly said they won't honor it?

Spot on, Barbara. The Israelis should have free rein to continue picking off Hezbollah partichants wherever they can be found. This is 24 karat pure unadulterated USDA grade AAA extra large ranch style dry aged select prime cut Heinz 57 varieties of bu||shit!
Posted by: Zenster || 08/14/2006 21:09 Comments || Top||


Israeli jets renew strikes on Beirut’s southern suburbs
BEIRUT - Israeli warplanes on Sunday renewed its strikes on Beirut southern suburbs as rescue workers were battling to remove casualties from under the rubble from an earlier strikes. The jets carried out at least five new strikes on areas in the Hezbollah hotbed of Haret Hriek.

In earlier strikes - the heaviest so far on Beirut’s southern suburbs - at least five people were killed, including one child, and seven others wounded. Eight buildings and the Imman Hussein mosque were flattened to the ground in the Roueiss neighbourhood in the Shiite-dominated suburbs. Flames were still emanating from one of the collapsed buildings which left heaps of cement blocks covering the ground.
No word about the baby ducks.
Thick clouds of smoke rose above the area targeted by the Israeli strikes.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/14/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if any reinforcing steel was found in the rubble. From past pictures, I have not seen too much steel in the rural weapons silos residential buildings.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 08/14/2006 0:09 Comments || Top||

#2  No rebar or I beams that is your basic "god willing" design I think AP.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 08/14/2006 0:52 Comments || Top||

#3  I wouldn't care if they leveled the whole thing. Lebanon is and deserves to be forfeit - anything that survives is a gift from Israel.
Posted by: flyover || 08/14/2006 0:57 Comments || Top||

#4 
Insh'allah Engineering Ltd

Allah-Bar + Mecca Cement + Ayatollah Aggregate

Posted by: RD || 08/14/2006 1:09 Comments || Top||

#5  RD---don't fo'get Wahabbi Water, heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 08/14/2006 2:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't drink the Wahabbi water, it's only for flushing.
Posted by: wxjames || 08/14/2006 7:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Alaska Paul I seem to recall that Wahabbi Water is mostly high sodium brackish water with a little sugar disolved in it.

»:-)
Posted by: RD || 08/14/2006 12:21 Comments || Top||

#8  I saw some footage on Fox this morning of a muzzie town in Southern Leb. Place was totally rubble. Nothing left standing. They'll have to bulldoze the whole thing and start over.
Posted by: remoteman || 08/14/2006 13:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Are you sure you weren't viewing the before photo, remoteman?
Posted by: Jake-the-peg || 08/14/2006 14:52 Comments || Top||

#10  Allah-Bar + Mecca Cement + Ayatollah Aggregate

Join us!
Posted by: The Fly Ash Liberation Army || 08/14/2006 18:31 Comments || Top||

#11  They must have been going after Green Helmet Guy.
Posted by: gorb || 08/14/2006 23:05 Comments || Top||



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