The trial will start in August of 31 suspected members of a cell linked to rebels accused of plotting and executing attacks, judicial sources said yesterday. Yemeni prosecutors have completed the interrogation of 31 suspected members of the âSanaa terrorist cell... which was plotting sabotage attacks in the capital, and hurled grenades on staff members of the Defense Ministry,â a ministry website quoted a judicial source as saying.
A woman, named as Intissar Al-Sayani, is among the suspects, it said. âThe files of the accused will be sent to court in August, following the judicial holiday,â it added. In May, Yemeni authorities said it arrested 20 members of the cell, which followed Badruddin Al-Houthi, the leader of Zaidi rebels who were involved in two weeks of fighting with government forces in the mountainous northwest in April that left some 280 people dead. This followed another uprising against the government led by Al-Houthiâs son, Hussein, a radical preacher killed by the army last September after leading a nearly three-month revolt in which more than 400 people were killed. An Interior Ministry report said in June that five civilians were killed while 28 others were wounded in several grenade attacks in Sanaa, which targeted Defense Ministry personnel.
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After a day of intensive police activity, detectives say at least one of four suspected London bombers died in last week's Tube and bus blasts. Security sources said it was likely three men whose belongings were found at the scenes are dead - there is a question mark about the fourth bomber. Explosives were found in Leeds and Luton after a series of raids.
Police say they have CCTV images of the four arriving at King's Cross station on the day of the bombings. They also said they had arrested a relative of one of the four suspects in Yorkshire. Four bombs - three on the London Underground and one on a bus in Tavistock Square in the city centre - killed at least 52 people on Thursday.
The breakthrough in the anti-terror investigation came after a day of raids in West Yorkshire and the seizure of a car at Luton rail station.
The raids, which began at 0630BST, centred on two properties in Dewsbury and four in Leeds.
WEST YORKSHIRE RAIDS
1. 0630 BST: Two houses raided in Beeston
2. Two houses raided at same time in Thornhill, Dewsbury
3. One House raided in Holbeck
4. 1320 BST: Controlled explosion in Burley
They were carried out after the discovery on Monday night of CCTV images showing the four men at King's Cross station just before 0830BST on the day of the attacks. The images showed the men, who had boarded a Thameslink train at Luton, carrying rucksacks. Explosives were later found in the car at Luton, where experts carried out five controlled explosions as a cordon was erected around the station. Police removed the explosives from the vehicle and were expected to destroy them later on Tuesday night.
A second car believed to be linked to the attacks was found at Leighton Buzzard, 10 miles (16km) west of Luton. Bedfordshire Police were examining it after receiving a tip-off from the Metropolitan Police. They refused to say exactly where the car was found.
Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the searches, carried out under the Terrorism Act, were intelligence-led and "directly connected" to last week's attacks. There is no identity for the fourth bomber and police do not know if his remains are at the King's Cross blast site or if he has fled. One man was arrested in Yorkshire and taken to London for questioning following the police operations on Tuesday.
Head of the Metropolitan Police anti-terrorist branch Peter Clark said documents identifying three of the men were found near three blast sites. Three of the four men were from the West Yorkshire area, said Mr Clark. His colleague, assistant commissioner Andy Hayman, said: "I want to conclude by making it absolutely clear that no-one should be in any doubt the work last Thursday is that of extremists and criminals. "No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts."
Following developments on Tuesday he described the investigation as "complex and intensive" and "moving at great speed". Police said there was forensic evidence that one of the bombers died in the Aldgate explosion. Property belonging to one of the suspects from West Yorkshire, who was reported missing by his family just after 10am on Thursday, was found on the devastated bus. Police have established that man was joined on his journey to London by three other men. The second man's property was found at the scene of the Aldgate blast and the third man's belongings at both the Aldgate and Edgware Road blasts.
Mr Clark said: "We are trying to establish their movements in the run up to last week's attacks and specifically to establish if they all died in the explosions." Police are asking for anyone with information on the bombs to contact their anti-terrorist hotline on 0800 789 321 .
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"No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts."
Oh, did the gang of four not have some community in common? What are their names?
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Gee, let me guess. They found the Islamic bombers in an Islamic neighborhood.
Almost like 98% of all terrorists are Islamic, but we shouldn't do racial profiling.
Fuck this PC shit.
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Doesn't matter where their parents are from.
What matters is their ideology: Islamofascism, as taught by in mosques and madrassas around the world, according to the Koran.
That's how to identify the enemy of our freedom: those who teach and study in madrassas and mosques. They oppose reason, innovation, and freedom. They uphold blind obedience, tradition, and slavery.
This battle is between Western Enlightenment and Islam. Terrorism is their tool of choice, but that's not who or what we're fighting.
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Almost like 98% of all terrorists are Islamic, but we shouldn't do racial profiling.
And we can't expect Muslims to do anything about it.
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Let me say it: all of these terror actions are mosque based.
No Muslims; no terror!
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Let me say it: all of these terror actions are mosque based.
No Muslims; no terror!
Posted by: Vlad the Muslim Impaler ||
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Shoot all double posters! Present company excepted.
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The Brits (and the US, too) will not make any quantum step in battling Islamic terrorism until they (and the US) starting putting heat on the Mosques and the Muslim community. Talk about hate speech! When the Imams preach hatred, destruction of the present govt, and death to infidels, they need the boot out of the country. They respect nothing but power so they need to be shown power. They can generate more crimes quicker than the police can respond and solve the so-called crimes. More like acts of war.
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If they had only used my aqsa-2 missile they would have had the same success we do in Gaza!
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The NVA went out of their way to make sure that their soldiers carried no identification or unit identifiers into combat, yet these clowns carry their wallets and ID's on suicide missions.
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Four bombers died in the London terror attacks, it was reported today. Police refused to confirmed the report on Sky News but sources said that the identification of at least one of the dead bombers led detectives to addresses in Leeds where raids were carried out today. It now appears the blasts which killed at least 52 people were the work of suicide bombers.
Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair described today's operation in the Leeds area as "significant". It is thought that a number of people were detained during the operation. Armed officers and Army bomb disposal experts took part in the raids on six properties in the Leeds area, which began around 6.30am today. Sir Ian said the operation was intelligence-based and was "directly connected" to last week's blasts, which killed at least 52 people. Detectives were expected to release more details about the operation later today.
Sources claimed that police had been led to the Yorkshire addresses after identifying the body of at least one bomber thought to have been responsible for the bus blast in Tavistock Square. Scotland Yard refused to confirm the claims. However, reports have previously quoted an eye-witness on the bus who said he saw an "agitated" olive-skinned man rummaging in a rucksack. And at the weekend police refused to comment on suggestions that one of the suspected bombers had been rushed to hospital with horrific injuries.
Local residents said one of the people living at 51 Colwyn Road was 22-year-old Shahzad Tanweer. Some people said Mr Tanweer had not been seen for a number of days. But his friend, Mohammed Answar, 19, said there was no way he could have been involved in the London atrocities.
All together now; "No, certainly not!"
"It's impossible. It's not in his nature to do something like this," he said. "He's is the type of guy who would condemn things like that. "My heart is with the guy wherever he is."
Likely your heart's in boomer heaven, then, cavorting with a 72-year-old virgin...
Mr Answar said his friend had lived in the Beeston area all his life and had recently completed a sports science degree, but he would not say where. He said they played cricket together only last week. Mr Answar said: "A lot of people know him. We're all brothers. We all look after each other as brothers."
Yes, we'll remenber that.
Another friend Azzy Mohammed, 21, said of Mr Tanweer: "He's the kind of person who gets along with anyone. "His sense of humour is very good. He's a sweet lad." Mr Mohammed said his friend was a good Muslim with no connection to any form of radical or extreme group.
Uh huh, a good muslim, spends a lot of time in the local mosque, I'll wager.
Police have been examining the theory that those responsible for Thursday's attacks could have been "away day" bombers, who arrived in the capital to plant the devices and then fled. It has also been suggested that the bombers could have met at King's Cross station as all three Tube trains which were hit had passed through there on the morning of the blasts. The bus which was ripped apart by an explosion 57 minutes after the Tube bombs detonated had also come from that direction. Trains from Leeds to London arrive at King's Cross station. Police have so far refused to discuss reports that they have made a number of arrests.
"We can say no more"
However, a 21-year-old local man, speaking at the scene near Colwyn Road, claimed a group of his friends who are all young British-born Pakistani men in their early twenties had been arrested.
The usual suspects, as well as the most likely ...
I'da guessed Algerian or Moroccan, if they were imported, Paks if raised domestically...
Who's the Saudi controller?
The man, who did not wish to give his name, said: "They're all normal lads, very, very top lads they are. Police are just doing this for no reason. They don't know what they are doing at the end of the day. This is a load of nonsense."
"Yeah. You know what cops are like. What do they know? Buncha infidels!"
The operation, the first linked directly to the bombings, was announced shortly after 9am by Scotland Yard.
Sunday's festivities seem to have been a hoax or a false alarm...
Sir Ian said: "There have been a series of searches carried out in Yorkshire. "Those searches are still going on. There's very little else I can say at the moment, but this activity is directly connected to the outrages on Thursday." Hours after the Leeds raids, police evacuated Luton railway station and car park as they recovered a vehicle they believe may be linked to the terrorist attacks in London last week. A 100 yard cordon was placed around the station in a major operation by Bedfordshire Police in conjunction with the Metropolitan Police and British Transport Police. The station was closed at 2.45pm on the grounds of public safety so that the car could be recovered. A police spokesman said: "Police believe the vehicle may be connected to the terrorist attacks in London."
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Good lads all!
We sound so very, very English.
Wouldnt yawl agree?
We assimilated everything except civilization.
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Fox News reported live a few minutes ago an Islamic Jihad assturd just blew himself and 4 young girls up at a crosswalk in Israel. I believe Tel Aviv but not sure. Where's Gort when you need him? These people are utterly worthless as human beings.
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PS, they also reported 4 terrorists are on video tape at one of the Tube interances. Now they have pictures of the scumbags.
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Second generation Pakistani.
Surprise, surprise
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Isit worth coining RIH(Rest In Hell)for these brught young lads.
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Explosives found in a car in Luton. There are more than 4 muzzies in on this 1. First suicide bomb of European soil, somehow I don't think the last. Isnt Luton the home of that Bakri wanker who sponges off the state (Al-Muhajirun). You can bet these muzzies attended and were inspired by some of his shite. Tony Blair fuck their human rights send that c..t back to Syria
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I wonder, since they seem to have found id on the bombers, if they knew it was a one-way mission? Or did their controller hand them each a backpack and say; "Now to start the timer, push this button here.......not yet, dummy"
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"My heart is with the guy wherever he is."
That would be smeared on the walls of the London Underground.
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steve makes a good point. initial reports talked about sophisticated timing devices. if they had sophisticated timing devices, then why do a suicide mission?
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via Drudge All four attackers - not confirmed to be suicide bombers - are thought to have died in the blasts. Police said there was forensic evidence that meant it was "very likely" the bomber responsible for the train explosion at Aldgate died there.
One of the men from West Yorkshire had been reported missing by his family and his property was found at the bus blast scene. The second man's property was found at the scene of the Aldgate blast and the third man's property at both the Aldgate and Edgware Road blasts. Sky News correspondent Martin Brunt said it is thought the men were British.
One man has just been arrested in west Yorkshire in connection with the attacks. They were also poised to make arrests in London, he said. Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of Scotland's Yard anti-terrorist branch, said: "The investigation quite early led us to have concerns about the movement and activities of four men, three of whom came from the West Yorkshire area. "We are trying to establish their movements in the run-up to last week's attack and specifically to establish whether they all died in the explosions. Today we executed six warrants under the Terrorism Act at premises in the West Yorkshire area. These included the home addresses of three of the four men. A detailed forensic examination will now follow and this is likely to take time to complete."
He continued: "We know that all four of these arrived in London by train on the morning. We have identified CCTV footage showing the four men at King's Cross Station shortly before 8.30am on that morning, July 7. One of them who had set out from West Yorkshire was reported missing by his family to the casualty bureau on July 7. We have been able to establish that he was joined on his journey to London by three other men. We have since found personal documents bearing the names of three of those four men close to the seats of three of the explosions.
"As regards to the man who is missing, some of his property was found on the route 30 bus in Tavistock Square. Property of a second man was found at the scene of the Aldgate bomb and in relation to a third man property with his name was found at the Aldgate and Edgware Road bombs. We have strong forensic evidence that it is very likely that one of the men from West Yorkshire died at the explosion at Aldgate."
Sky News terror expert Steve Park said the documents may have been deliberately planted to "send police the wrong way".
The news comes as armed police search a house in Leeds after the Army used a controlled explosion to get in. It was the discovery that the bus bomber was likely to have died in the blasts that triggered the raids. Hundreds of people were evacuated from the area around Hyde Park Road, Burley. No one was in the house at the time but armed officers had been used as a precaution. Five other homes in Leeds had earlier been raided by police hunting the terrorists behind last week's attacks.
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Meant to bold this too: Detectives believe all four were British citizens
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Clive? Trevor? Nigel? Bernard?
Bet I'm wrong...
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latest report says only the bus bomber is sure to have died, others not clear. CCTV showed 4 entering Kings Cross 20 minutes prior to bombing. at least 3 were from Leeds. 1 guy (not a bomber?) has been arrested. A car has been impounded. Things are happening very quickly.
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I would immediately deport their families - regardless of their citizenship.
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So how much indoctrination does it take to get four western raised youths to go boom? If there is one thing the Islamists are absolutely world class in, it is the psychological preparation of suicide bombers.
Arrests have been made in Yorkshire after the identity of the suspected London bus bomber led police to make raids in Leeds and Luton. Security sources told the BBC the bus bomb suspect died in the blast but it is unclear if it was a suicide bombing.
At least one article I saw pooh-poohed his existence. I guess the coppers were playing that one close to their collective chest...
In Leeds a controlled explosion was carried out to gain access to a house, as part of a search of six premises.
"Jones! Open the door!"
"It's locked, sir!"
"Bring up the plastique! Give 'em a dose of their own medicine!"
Police have exploded a car in Luton which they believe may be connected to the attacks that killed 52.
"Good job, Jones! Now blow their new car!"
An unoccupied house in the Burley area of Leeds was one of six raided in Leeds after the attacks.
Was it unoccupied at the time of the raid? Or just normally unoccupied? (Where do they get these writers?)
Police in Leeds are looking for explosives and have already seized some material. Up to 600 people have been evacuated from the area as part of the operation.
"Jones! Evacuate those people!"
"Yes, sir! How far?"
"Move them to Jersey! That's a pretty big 'un in there!"
Police cleared people from homes as well as a mosque, a health centre and an old people's home.
"Heh? Whuzzat, sonny? Jersey, y'say? Lemme get my sweater..."
Parts of the Beeston area of Leeds has been cordoned off, as well as a street in Dewsbury near the city. Inspector Miles Himsworth said the operation was being led by the Metropolitan Police Anti-Terrorist officers with the support of West Yorkshire Police and the Army Bomb Disposal Unit. He said the house at which the controlled explosion took place officers were searching for explosives and other material. He said that may include computers, and a "careful and meticulous search" would be carried out.
"Make sure you get all the droopy disks and such, Jones!"
"That's 'floppy disks,' sir..."
"Whatever they're called! Just make sure you're careful and meticulous!"
Anti-terrorism officers launched the first raids in the Leeds area on six houses at about 0630 BST. One evacuated resident Nathan Clark, said people were "shocked" at what was happening. "Everyone is amazed that it is happening on their doorstep," he told BBC News.
"We thought for sure it'd be on somebody else's doorstep..."
The police mood is said to be "buoyant" about the developments.
"Jones! Tell the men to stop that infernal cheering! I can't hear myself think!"
"Yessir!"
"And remind them that proper British policemen do not say 'Yeeee-hawwww!"
Meanwhile in Luton the railway station has been closed and a cordon placed around an area that also covers the bus station and parts of Luton University campus.
"Going somewhere, Mahmoud? Stick 'em up!"
Police said a car they believe may be connected to the London bombs has been found in the car park.
"What makes you think it's connected, sir?"
"Oh, come, Jones! It's chock full of dynamite!"
"Well, it could be connected with some other bombing, couldn't it?"
Earlier the Met commissioner Sir Ian Blair confirmed the operation "is directly connected to the outrages on Thursday".
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Was the bus explosion unintentional? changed his mind, missed a connection, or bag failed to explode in the tube at the appointed time so he took it and tried to get away? might explain the nervous looking down into the bag that some passengers reported. Maybe one of his "friends" called the phone used to trigger the bomb.
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Leeds? Dang my Great-g-g-g-g-g-g Grandpappy and grandmammy hailed from there. What's happened to the neighborhood? Seriously, it looks as if these terrorists weren't as careful as was first thought. If they didn't die in the explosions I mightily hope they are caught. Too bad they won't get the death penalty. On the other hand, if they only get life in prison maybe they don't get those 72 white grapes.
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I am betting that this cell hasn't made any mistakes with leaving stray cell phones or hard-drives.
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Was the bus explosion unintentional? ...
Apparently the northbound Northern Line wasn't running at the time the boomers arrived at Kings Cross, and it's likely this was the fourth boomer's intended target. He may have scratched his head for a while, got thrown out of the station with everyone else when the others went off, and made the best of the situation by getting his package to go off on a crowded us instead. Alternatively, he may have taken another tube, the thing didn't go off at the right time, he was turfed out soemwhere else, got on a bus or two and let it off - either trying to deactivate it (unlikely) or managing to detonate it manually...
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Bulldog, do you think that their original plan might have been for the bombing to take place prior to the election - this being a fallback date. The G-8 summit wasn't even in London after all.
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they couldn't get on the Virgin train to Edinburgh...
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Evacuate all the people with first names like Mahmoud, Muhammed, etc., to Truro. Evacuate all the Jones, Smiths, and Tynsdales to Boston (England, not US). Evacuate all Pakistanis to Lundy, and everybody else to Land's End. Once everything's taken care of, let the people walk back to Leeds.
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Military officers blasted their way into a home in northern England in what they said was a search for explosives, following a series of raids linked to last week's London bombings.
Blew open the door or shot the locks off?
Police said 500 people were evacuated from the area and the streets were cordoned off. Hours earlier, police searched five residences elsewhere in Leeds, but there was no immediate word of any arrests.
Additional: LEEDS, England (AP) - Police carried out a controlled explosion at a home in northern England, detonating a controlled explosion and evacuating 500 people in a search linked to the investigation of the London terrorist bombings.
"Hey! Youse can't do dat! Dat's a family heirloom! My grandaddy gimme dat bomb!"
The actions came hours after detectives searched five residences elsewhere in Leeds in the first raids linked to the massive investigation of the London terrorist bombings. The Burley area where the explosion took place is a few miles from the Beeston area, where anti-terrorist police raided five homes early Tuesday as part of the investigation of the bombings that killed at least 52 aboard three London subway trains and a bus.
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Here is an appropos song for the occasion:
It's Sister Jenny's Turn to Throw the Bomb
In an anarchist's garret, so lowly and so mean
Oh, smell the pungent odor of nitro-glycerine.
They're busy making fuses, and filling cans with nails
And the little Slavic children set up this mournful wail.
Oh, its Sister Jenny's turn to throw the bomb;
The last one it was thrown by Brother Thom.
Poor Mamma's aim is bad and the Copskys all know Dad,
So it's Sister Jenny's turn to throw the bomb.
Sister Jenny took the bomb and started off.
"Oh, mind you now," said Mamma, "to blow up Templehoff."
And so the party waited, while the dawn turned into day,
And the little Slavic children set up this mournful lay
Oh it's Brother Ivanovitch's turn to throw the bomb.
Sister Jenny's gone the way of Brother Thom;
Poor Mamma's aim is bad and the Copsky's all know Dad,
So it's Brother Ivanovitch's turn to throw the bomb.
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Contradictory with yesterday's report that explosives came from the Balkans.
German newspaper: Explosive material used by British terrorist who blew himself up on Tel Aviv beachfront in 2003 very likely the same as that used by terrorists who staged London attacks last week, Mossad tells Brits
By Roee Nahmias and Ronen Bodoni
TEL AVIV â The terror attack in London last week may be tied to a suicide bombing on Tel Avivâs beachfront in April 2003, German newspaper Bild am Sonntag reported Monday.
According to the paper, Mossad officials informed British security authorities that the explosive material used in the Tel Aviv attack on Mikeâs Place pub was apparently also utilized to stage the series of bombings in London on Thursday.
Moreover, the Mossad office in London received advance notice about the attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast, the paper reports. As a result, it was impossible to take any action to prevent the blasts.
âThey reached us too late for us to do something about it,â a Mossad source is quoted as saying.
âVery powerful explosiveâ
According to the German report, the Mossad relayed an analysis of the explosives used in the Mikeâs Place attack to British security officials. Mossad sources are quoted as saying there is âhigh likelihoodâ the explosives used in Tel Aviv were the same ones used in London.
However, the story makes it unclear whether the Mossad is involved in any way in the investigation into the London bombings.
After analyzing the explosive material used in the Mikeâs Place attack, the Mossad concluded it was produced in China and later smuggled into Britain, the paper reports. The explosives were apparently stashed by terrorists connected to al-Qaeda who were able to evade raids by British security forces.
According to the newspaper, Mossad Chief Meir Dagan said the explosive in question is very powerful, and âmuch more lethal than plastic explosives and can be smuggled undetected due to its composition.
The Mossad was also able to determine the substance was developed and produced at the Chinese ZDF arms factory, located about 65 kilometers (about 40 miles) from Beijing, the paper reports.
3 people murdered at Mikeâs Place
The Mikeâs Place attack claimed the lives of three people, Yanai Weiss, 46, Ran Baron, 24, and Caroline Dominique Hess, 29. The bombing was carried out by two terrorists, Asif Mohammed Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif, who were recruited by Hamas in Britain.
The two managed to enter Israel using their British passports.
Hanif blew himself up at the pub, but Sharif failed to detonate his explosive belt and fled the scene. A few weeks later, his body was washed ashore in Tel Aviv.
The terroristsâ relatives were detained in Britain in the wake of the attack on suspicion they knew of the plot and did nothing to prevent the attacks. The relativesâ trial ended in July of last year, with the court ordering a retrial for Sharifâs sister and brother.
Meanwhile, Sharifâs wife was cleared of the charges against her.
#1
So the very same people who hate Joooos also hate Brits. The implications of that are huge, if one dares to consider them.
It's the bankrupt culture and religion of islam that spawns murder and atrocity.
Not the Jews. Not the west.
The left won't make the connection. They can't. It would mean having to rethink the carnage they've condoned in Israel. They're too invested in believing the paleos are the poor, helpless victims of Israeli oppression. Rethinking that notion would force them to conclude something significantly different. And it would destroy their world view -- of "poor" muslims, of "aggressive" Joooos, and of what's right and wrong in the war on terror.
I assume, though, they will once again rationalize, minimalize and deflect such connections. Why should this attack on the west by islamic terrorists be different?
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One of the positive spin-offs of the bombings, especially now the boomers seem to have been positively identified as suicide bombers, is the effect this will have on all those arseholes and fuckwits who have spent the past five years or so condoning or excusing exactly the same actions taking place in Israel. The fact that one bomb went off on a London bus just adds irony. I'm assuming a lot of (sometimes unwitting political fashion-victim) anti-Semites are waking up to the contemptible hypocrisy of their previous stance.
They won't "wake up" to their hypocrisy. If they did, their world would come crashing down. So, they'll split hairs, rationalize, deflect and otherwise explain away how Israel's situation is different from the one in England. Or they'll explain why the UK deserved it. Or they'll help you understand that these "terrorists" are depraved, while the "militants" in Israel are oppressed.
You're asking them to admit they are wrong -- to admit that ANY suicide bombings are unacceptable. And they can't get there from here. They've already become comfortable with believing that there are good reasons to kill innocent civilians, and they can't undo that.
The psychological term for it is "cognitive dissonance." I tend to think of them simply as weak minded sheep.
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The hard core won't admit they're wrong but some of the sheep who have followed them without thinking for themselves will start to realise what idiots they've been. It's easy to underestimate the number of people who chose to adopt their politics according to what's considered fashionable. The alluring moral equivalence mannequin suddenly has no clothes (perhaps they've been blown off).
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Bulldog, how is the BBC's redating of the word "terrorist" playing? I think that stupidity can be as provocative as weakness.
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What I am seeing in "serioustopics.com" is one bunch making a big hue and cry about what's wrong with the communication system in the subways that they didn't figure out it was a bomb right away...
Five homes in West Yorkshire have been searched by police investigating last week's London bombings. Anti-terror officers launched the raids in the Leeds area at about 0630 BST but so far have made no arrests. The operation came as Sir Ian Blair, Met Police Commissioner, warned another attack on London was "likely". Parts of Colwyn Road and Tempest Road in the Beeston area, south of Leeds city centre, have been sealed off by police. Sir Ian confirmed the raids were part of the bombing investigation. He said: "There have been a series of searches carried out in Yorkshire. Those searches are still going on. "This activity is directly connected to the outrages on Thursday."
Speaking on BBC London, the commissioner said London, as well as New York, continued to be "major terrorist targets". He said: "Another attack is likely, there's no question about that. When, who knows." The Yorkshire searches were carried out after warrants were issued under the Terrorism Act 2000.
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Neighbours at one of the addresses reported that a 22-year-old man who lived there with his family had gone missing. No one was in the house at the time but armed officers had been used as a precaution.
I thought it was a little odd to evacuate 500 people from the neighborhood if this was to be a surprise attack. I hope someone has a plan to catch the little monster.
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So, what was his name? They never give the names when they are... interesting.
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Police have confirmed that the terrorist involved with the bus bombing died at the scene (suicide or accident not clear as yet). The identity of the bomber led police to raid the houses in Leeds.
Concurrently Luton railway station has been evacuated whilst police investigate a car in the car park. A controlled explosion has been carried out on the car.
EXTREMISTS living in Ireland may be plotting atrocities across Europe, the country's justice minister Michael McDowell said yesterday. Mr McDowell said members of radical terrorist groups may be basing themselves in Ireland in order to avail of the "common travel area" between the state and the UK. "In the past there has been evidence that some people in Ireland, who have an extremist point of view, have been engaging in logistical support activities for terrorist-type activities in Europe and elsewhere. That is a worrying thing," the justice minister said.
"Faith, and 'tis incumbent upon good IRA men to provide logistical support to our Moose limb brothers!"
"It wouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility that terrorists would exploit the common travel area in order to perpetrate acts of terrorism in Britain. So it is a matter of very major significance to the Irish state that there should be the fullest possible co-operation between the two jurisdictions in respect of this kind of activity and the fullest possible sharing of intelligence."
"We have enough trouble with IRA gunnies beating people to death. We don't need no damned turbans to add to the problem!"
Bertie Ahern, the Irish premier, last week revealed that police were monitoring al-Qaeda sympathisers in Ireland as part of a massive international security operation.
"Pat, that boyo with the green turban has a suspicious look about him!"
"Yer right, Mike! We'd best monitor him!"
But, in the aftermath of the London bombings, Mr Ahern said he did not believe Ireland was under serious threat of attack.
"No, no! Certainly not! Why would they boom us?"
Mr McDowell yesterday confirmed the movements and activities of several individuals throughout the state were being closely monitored. "We are talking about a number of people who are under surveillance and whose activities are the subject of interest by the intelligence services of this island state," Mr McDowell told RTE radio. "I have been in the closest possible contact with UK and US intelligence services in relation to this. There is a sharing of information and close co-operation."
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"In the past there has been evidence that some people in Ireland, who have an extremist point of view, have been engaging in logistical support activities for terrorist- type activities in Europe and elsewhere. That is a worrying thing," the justice minister said.
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I remarked 6 months back that the jihadis should hire a dozen currently unemployed Irishmen to handle the logistics given they are so dismally bad at it. Also Novosti had a report immediately after the bombings saying there was an Irish connection. I'm getting mildly paranoid about posting stuff here in case I am giving lurkers ideas. A few days ago I debated posting about an obvious and vulnerable target and thought about how I could do it cryptically in a way a casual reader wouldn't get, before deciding to keep quiet (about it).
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Phil, you could e-mail it directly to Fred or one of the moderators, then let them decide. That way your thought can flow to useful channels, but stay out of the public eye.
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If this is true, then the IRA has truly demonstrated what to do when you reach rock bottom - commence an excavation. Sharia doesn't seem like it would be a good fit for the Gaelic majority.
I don't kow what conditions are in Northern Ireland but I think that employment levels in the rest of Ireland are very good. EMC, for example, chose to Ireland for a manufacturing center because the population is well educated and hard working.
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The relevant authorities are well aware of the vulnerability I thinking of and there is very little they can do to stop an attack, short of doing something that would be iconic of the power of terrorism to change the way we live in the West. Sorry to be so cryptic.
Terrorism is a business and to a significant degree the objective is the publicity that 'succesful' attacks generate and which bring in money and recruits, but like all businesses (and far more than most) there is much that is only learned 'on the job'. There is a pool of Irishmen who have that experience and some would be willing to hire themselves out the highest bidder. Do you really think the four caught in Colombia cared about FARC's objectives?
THE London bombings occurred exactly six months after an extremist cleric based in the capital declared that Islam was at war with Britain. Investigators are examining their limited records on the followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed to determine if any have been recently recruited into an active terror cell.
In 2003 two of Mr Bakri Mohammedâs students, Asif Hanif and Omar Sharif, left home in Britain and took part in a Hamas suicide mission in Israel. A senior police source said: âThe planners might have come from overseas but the bombers are likely to be British. The mindset needed to carry out these attacks is already established here.â The greatest concern among investigators is that the bombers are young British Muslims with no known history of involvement with extremism. Tracking Mr Bakri Mohammedâs followers has become particularly difficult since last year when he disbanded his al-Muhajiroun group and began to preach clandestinely via internet chatrooms. In talks monitored by The Times in January, Mr Bakri Mohammed declared a shift in the view of Britain held by radical Islamists. He said: âThe whole of Britain has become Dar ul-Harb ([and of war]. That Dar ul-Harb has not started yet, but still really they start it.â Mr Bakri Mohammed, who was born in Syria and has lived in Britain since 1986, told his audience to become terrorists. He said: âAl-Qaeda and all its branches of the world, that is the victorious group and they have the emir. You are obliged to join.â
Britain had tolerated the presence of hardline Islamists in a stance that angered France, Spain and European countries. In return, radicals preached that Muslims lived in Britain under a âcovenant of securityâ meaning that no jihadi attacks would occur here. Officers may re-examine the activities of Mohammed al-Massari, a Saudi dissident, who has also lived in London since the 1990s. Dr al-Massari legally hosts a number of websites which, he admitted in a BBC Panorama interview on Sunday, could inspire young British Muslims to fight in Iraq. The sites included details on how to use a range of weaponry. A third figure said to be promoting hardline views from Britain is Dr Saad al-Fagih, an Iraqi, who runs a series of websites used by Islamist groups around the world.
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Based on what I've seen on US TV, some Islamists appear to live or reside in middle-class or better homes, be it their own or another's. Are we and they to presume that the same will not be affected by being at "war"???
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THE London bombings occurred exactly six months after an extremist cleric based in the capital declared that Islam was at war with Britain.
The image that come to mind here is one of the dog snapping at its owner. Well, it's pretty well known what the logical reply to such a development would be.
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Friend of mine had a German Shepard,every time I tried to pet him he would snap at me.Well one time he tried that,I reached down grabed a handfull of ear and bite the hell out him.Mutt never snaped at me agin.
THE new breed of terrorists behind the London bombings are techno-experts who have become skilled in evading the electronic surveillance methods used by Western intelligence services.
Trained in counter-surveillance techniques in camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan and the southern Philippines, the latest generation of Islamic extremist espouses the al-Qaeda terrorist organisationâs hatred of the West but relies on its own motivation and planning to carry out attacks.
This new breed does not wait for orders from on high, or for some coded message from the al-Qaeda hierarchy. In every sense these mostly young international terrorists have become the equivalent of the old Cold War Soviet âsleepersâ â men and women committed to a cause who learn to blend in with their host countries to undermine it.
Those responsible for the London bombings have already proved that they were sufficiently savvy to avoid becoming one of the many terrorist suspects who are watched and monitored by MI5.
Security sources said: âItâs clear they have a general awareness of some of the techniques that can be used against them and have become more and more conscious of surveillance activities.â
The sources added: âThey are also aware that while modern technology, such as mobile phones and e-mails, can enhance their way of operating, there are also built-in risks because they know they can be traced when they make use of them.â
Recruits to what is being called the ânew al-Qaedaâ are computer-literate and skilled at ensuring that they leave no electronic footprints. This generation of jihadists was given as much training in technology as it was in bomb-making and reconnaissance missions.
They have learnt from the mistakes made by previous terror cells in allowing telephone calls and e-mails to be intercepted. The new recruits are taught how to communicate without sending e-mails or encrypting messages in seemingly harmless websites.
The easiest method is for a cell to share a single anonymous e-mail account. All the members of the cell would know the log-in and password, but instead of sending messages, they write their communications and leave them in the draft folder. This allows the others to read the message which never leaves the account. If the terrorists have to exchange information they use more complex forms of encryption, relying on mathematical algorithms to scramble communications, so that they are meaningless to anyone who does not have a numerical key to decode them.
They have also mastered the art of steganography, which involves hiding messages inside picture or music files sent over the internet.
The key to the sleeper terrorist is his normal appearance and his ability to avoid standing out in a crowd. Although some of the thousands of closed-circuit televisions in the capital may have the bombers on tape, they will be difficult to distinguish from anyone else caught on camera. âWe expect they will be clean-shaven, smartly dressed and looking every inch the Westerner,â one security source said.
Dominic Armstrong, director of research and intelligence at Aegis Defence Services, said: âThe London bombers were an âA teamâ, clearly well trained and good at counter-surveillance.â
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The Islamist extremist group, al-Qaeda, ordered attacks on Europe in a May 29 internet message that the Spanish secret service forwarded to their British counterparts at the weekend, reported a Spanish newspaper on Monday. The Spanish national intelligence centre sent a copy of the Arabic-language message - signed by "Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades - European division" - on Saturday to the British intelligence service MI5, and it was also published on Saturday by the daily El Mundo. The message, entitled "Letter to Mujahedeen in Europe", stated in part: "We now call on the mujahedeen around the world to launch the expected attack".
El Mundo wrote that Spanish intelligence officials believed this was a reference to the attacks in London last Thursday. The newspaper reported that the Spanish secret service had been examining the statements of the European division of Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, named after an al-Qaeda leader who was killed in Afghanistan, since the Madrid bombings.
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Okay, they "want to launch the expected attack". Boy, that sure is actionable intelligence.
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Is that Gerd Rommel in front of his 20in1 Electro-Set? I can just see him calling out to Mahmoud commanding the 501st Schwere Panzer Abteilung.
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From what I understand Al Queda with a few exemptions from the past when we were a sleep in the west has transformed into a group that gives no actionable intellegence. How becuase sounds to me it is just groups all over 5-20 maybe men strong that consider themselves part of al queda but are independent sets like in the gangs here. Al Queda issues a attack europe green light and the sets do what they can to make the claim real I would bet even Osama himself is just as suprised by us when and what is attacked. He probably knows something is coming but not exactly what.
Makes it impossible to stop the attacks or groups no matter how much of the upper leadership that goes down. Drive home the point that when you are facing a portion of a population you cant just cut them off from coming to the West the only option is somehow force them to move to a certian location preferably away from our cities to fight and die. Hmmm I wonder were that would be?????? These radicals are very macho offensive I heard once a story on how US troops during the invasion drove around with loud speakers blarring insults to the Iraqis to get the Fedayine to jump out of the fox holes and positions and charge to thier death. I wonder if maybe kicking in someones home door then declaring we are going to be here until we are done making the your home look how we want it and by the way "bring it on" if that would be considered the same as above on a grand scale. things tha make you go Hmmmmm
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This is horsecrap. Every other day there's some message from one of these guys saying that they're days away from launching an attack which will kill thousands of infidels. I don't know how experts determine that a specific one of these many warnings is actually genuine.
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if you take the numbers 21, 12,144 and 19,
which were all forced on the black man by the racist numerologists,
divide by pi, which my momma made, and I always loved, especially....
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I've been out of town for several days. Better ride back to Indiana to see whether Global Jihad has tipped over my garbage cans or egged the house - besides my grass probably needs to be mowed.
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Two people remain in critical condition after an explosion in the capital of the Caribbean island of Trinidad and Tobago, officials say. National Security Minister Martin Joseph said a total of 13 people had been injured in central Port of Spain. Officials say the blast just after 1400 local time (1800 GMT) was caused by an explosive device hidden in a rubbish bin a few blocks from parliament. But they say it is not clear what kind of device was used, nor who placed it. The blast occurred on the corner of Frederick and Queen streets - the capital's major crossroads. The city's business district was evacuated after the explosion and the area was combed for bombs, the police said. "We have no idea of the kind of device used nor who is behind it," Deputy Police Commissioner Glen Roach told the Associated Press news agency. Local media reported that a man was seen putting a parcel in the dustbin shortly before the explosion took place.
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Who cares about the dead or wounded, anyone missing?
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Someone keep an eye on Hugo Chavez. Trinidad & Tobago have oil reserves almost as large as Venezuela. I'm sure Hugo would like to "take over" that "tiny piece of British trash". I hope the Trinidadian police think the same thing I do. We need to recommission a couple of dozen old B-52D models, and get them ready for some carpet bombing. Blow a path through Cuba, and take out most of Caracas.
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Law enforcement agencies in Dagestan on Wednesday said they had killed Rasul Makasharipov, leader of a radical Islamic rebel group whose members have been accused of killing dozens of policemen and security officers in the republic. Makasharipov and Shamil Kebedov, a suspected member of his Jenet organization, were staying in a house in the Dagestani capital, Makhachkala, when commandos stormed the building early Wednesday, security forces said. Both men were killed during the operation, Deputy Interior Minister Andrei Novikov told reporters in Makhachkala. Makasharipov's fingerprints matched those in his police files and his relatives identified his body, police said.
Kebedov was suspected of taking part in attacks on policemen, a local police source told Interfax on customary condition of anonymity. Makasharipov committed suicide by detonating a grenade, the source said. The killing of Makasharipov came a few days after several senior police officials were fired over the rebels' continuing insurgency and represents a major PR coup for Dagestani security forces. Police and security forces had been searching for Makasharipov, a former interpreter for Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev, since 2002. Members of his organization, Jenet, are accused of having killed more than 50 policemen and security officers in Dagestan, Channel One television reported Wednesday.
Police had twice previously claimed to have Makasharipov trapped - the first time in a tent camp outside Makhachkala, and the second time in an apartment in the city. Both times he managed to escape, killing policemen after fierce clashes. Makasharipov also helped found a rebel group called Shariah Jamaat, Arabic for "Community of Justice," Novikov said Wednesday. The group has claimed responsibility for the killing of 10 Interior Ministry troops in a Makhachkala bombing on July 1, as well as for the killing of Dagestan's deputy interior minister, Magomed Omarov, and information minister, Zagir Orukhov, earlier this year.
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A small, rudimentary bomb exploded Tuesday outside the Italian Cultural Institute in Barcelona, injuring a policeman and killing a bomb-sniffing dog, the Italian Embassy said. A police official in Spain's second-largest city said the blast did not appear to be a terrorist attack. Embassy spokesman Filipo La Rosa said it was too early to say.
Was it a bomb? Did it go off? Did it kill the dog and injure the cop? Is your head up your ass clear to the shoulders?
"Legume! My cape! I suspect this may be a terrorist attack!"
"Inspector! How do you do it?"
La Rosa said staff at the institute called police when they arrived for work Tuesday morning and found a suspicious object - a metal coffee pot with wires sticking out of it - on the steps leading into the building. The explosion occurred while police bomb-disposal experts with a bomb-sniffing dog on a long leash were examining the device, he said.
Please, no comments on what was the last thing to go through the dogs head.
La Rosa described the explosion as small but said he had no details on damage. He said it happened between 8 and 8:15 a.m. He said the policeman was injured and the dog was killed. "At this point I can't tell you, nor do we think it would be responsible to say it was a terrorist attack," La Rosa said. "I can't say I rule it out or don't rule it out because for the time being we don't have information." Spanish National Radio said the policeman was only slightly injured.
Additional: Police are not ruling out a terrorist attack, nor are they discounting the possibility that it was the work of Basque separatist group ETA. Some officials, however, said they thought it might be the work of Italian anarchists, as there was graffiti written on a nearby wall of the letter "A" written in a circle, the symbol for anarchy.
What, if anarchists did it it's not considered terrorism?
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Four bombs exploded Tuesday near a power plant in the Basque region after a warning call from the separatist group ETA, but there were no casualties, news reports said. The blasts occurred in the town of Amorebieta in Vizcaya province, Spanish National Radio said. ETA called a Basque newspaper and warned that four bombs would go off at the power plant, the news agency Efe said. Workers at the plant were evacuated before the explosions, Efe said, quoting witnesses as saying the blasts were small.
It's them or the turbans. Nobody else booms Spain.
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It's them or the turbans. Nobody else booms Spain. cares.
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Spain was a loyal ally until Zappers was elected after 3-11. Many Spaniards do possess cojones -- they invented the term, remember.
Their problem is that a sizable portion of their society traded their balls in as too heavy to lug around. But they're volatile folk, and if the Islamists push their luck, which they've a habit of doing, it's also possible Don Juan'll take his courage out of cold storage.
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as info, theyre adding another 500 Spanish troops to ISAF, in addition to the 500 already in Afghanistan.
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there are a number of references to Spain taking over the PRT at Herat, with 375 troops, plus other facilities elsewhere, on the ISAF site, which is linked to from the US DoD site. I cant seem to find the article that said it was 500 troops, and additional to the 551. Sorry.
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Hat tip, free republic. An odd combo of sources, but so?
MADRID, June 21 (Xinhuanet) -- The Spanish government plans to send a new contingent of 500 troops to Afghanistan to reinforce security in the country's September parliamentary elections, Defense Minister Jose Bono said Tuesday.
Bono told reporters that he will request Congress on Wednesday to assess the possibility of sending more troops.
Spain has already deployed 540 soldiers in Afghanistan. As part of the NATO troops in the Asian country, the Spanish forces are in Herat and Qala-i-Naw, both in western Afghanistan.
The man charged with the murder of the controversial Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh has confessed to the killing at his trial in Amsterdam.
Mohammed Bouyeri, 27, said he acted out of his religious beliefs and that he would do "exactly the same" if he were ever set free. Prosecutors say Mr Bouyeri killed Mr Van Gogh in a ritualistic murder committed in the name of radical Islam. The November 2004 murder shocked the Netherlands and raised ethnic tensions. Mr Bouyeri, who has dual Dutch-Moroccan nationality, could face a life sentence if he is convicted.
"I take complete responsibility for my actions. I acted purely in the name of my religion," he told the court in Amsterdam. "I can assure you that one day, should I be set free, I would do exactly the same, exactly the same," he added.
I have no doubt you would.
His lawyer told the court on Monday there would be no defence case put forward by Mr Bouyeri or on his behalf.
Mr Bouyeri is accused of shooting and stabbing Mr Van Gogh to death as he cycled along an Amsterdam street. A note stuck to his body with a knife threatened the Somali-born Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who wrote the script for Mr van Gogh's film Submission, about violence against women in Islamic society. Mr Bouyeri was arrested following a shoot-out with police just minutes after Mr Van Gogh's killing. The prosecution said Mr Bouyeri had hoped to die a "martyr" at the hands of the police.
Pity you are so "civilized" you don't have the means to grant him his wish.
The murder sparked a wave of revenge attacks on mosques and counter-attacks against Christian churches in the Netherlands.
They make it sound like half the Netherlands was burned to the ground.
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Mohammed has little to lose in this trial. He committed the crime in broad daylight with many witnesses. The Dutch (like the rest of the EU) abolished the death penalty so he knows that the most he can face is life in prison as a living martyr. I heard that Dutch prisons are pretty much a country club including a cocktail hour.
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a ritualistic murder committed in the name of radical Islam
interesting. the term "radical" was added by the writer. In fact, I'm sure he would say he killed Van Gogh in the name of islam, not in the name of "radical" islam.
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Kudos to the Dutch coppers for only winging him. The Dutch people now get to watch him posturing and preening...and they're learning more about Islam than if he had been 'martyred.' Keep him in solitary for the rest of his life though; he's highly contagious.
Opposition leader Romano Prodi announced on Monday his refusal to Silvio Berlusconi's administration who is in the process of enacting laws to counter terrorism in the aftermath of London last Thursday's bombings. Prodi, who is also the President of the European Commission, stressed that enacting these new laws would alter the Italian lifestyle and threaten democracy.
He noted that his party as well as European governments should actively counter terrorism. He showed support for the British premier's decision to remain democratic in all aspects. Meanwhile, Prodi renewed his party's opposition to sending Italian troops to Iraq where the parliament is expected to vote on that issue once again. Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu announced security measures which widen the jurisdiction of security bodies in launching investigations and arrests in a bid to counter any terrorist threat.
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Romano Prodi coddler of terrorists.
Your 15 minutes is up.
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Its NOT SOCIALISM or COMMUNISM or CENTRALISM or TOTALITARIANISM, etc. but "Protection" and "Personal/Local/National Safety" and "Security", as honest injun as Clintonian Amerika = Russia-China and a "Fascist" = Limited/Deregulated Communist-Stalinist! And "Librules" are no longer of the US DemoLeft ergo the US DemoLeft demands Dubya must appoint one to the SCOTUS to replace Sandra!?
The man accused of killing the Dutch film producer Theo van Gogh quoted prayers in Arabic at judges yesterday and walked out of court holding a Qur'an above his head. Mohammed Bouyeri, the only suspect on trial for Mr van Gogh's killing, refused to answer questions about his possible motivation and said he had no plans to fight the charges.
Prosecutors say Mr Bouyeri, 27 and of Moroccan origin, attacked Mr van Gogh in a street in Amsterdam on November 2 2004, shooting him several times and then going on a rampage that targeted police officers. He could face life imprisonment if convicted of terrorism, murder, attempted murder and impeding democracy by threatening members of parliament. The killing was seen by some as an act of terrorism because Mr van Gogh was a prominent critic of Islam.
Ummm... What does everybody else see it as? Who is "everybody else"?
The killer left a five-page note pinned to the corpse with a knife, filled with religious ramblings and threatening further attacks. He was arrested after being shot in the leg. Prosecutors say that he is linked to the crime by eyewitnesses, ballistics and DNA analysis. Mr Bouyeri confirmed his identity for the three-judge bench, but his lawyer, Peter Plasman, said that his client did not recognise the authority of the court. "My client wants no defence by him, nor on his behalf, and that's a very thoroughly considered decision," Mr Plasman said. "This is probably the last thing I'll be saying at this trial."
Silent throughout most of the proceedings, Mr Bouyeri said one phrase in Arabic when asked by judges to explain why he seemed to hate the western society which had given his parents work and asylum. Mr Bouyeri said: "I pray that God protect me that I should ever think differently than I do now." Reading from police recordings, judges said Mr Bouyeri laughed and told his younger brother Hassan: "I knew what I was doing, and I succeeded."
"I swear to God, if there were a death penalty, I would be begging for it," he was quoted by the judges as having said. The day's main witness was Rudolph Peters, a professor of Islamic culture at the University of Amsterdam, who said Mr Bouyeri's writings showed he became radical more than 18 months before the killing. Mr Bouyeri, allegedly a member of a terrorist cell known as the Hofstad Network, is said to have attended private prayer sessions with a Syrian spiritual leader, Redouan al-Issar, who disappeared shortly before Mr van Gogh's murder. Twelve other suspected group members are awaiting trial on separate terrorism charges. "My conclusion is that Mr Bouyeri saw himself as an instrument of God," when he allegedly carried out the killing, Professor Peters said.
"Yer honor, this man is a nut!"
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Bomb threats have left European cities on edge after blasts in London that killed at least 52 people last week, with residents wondering where the next attack will hit and trying to cope with nerve-rattling false alarms. Londoners, still recovering from Thursday's bombing of three underground stations and a double-decker bus, have had to grapple with a series of threats and evacuations. On Monday, Whitehall, a street that houses many government offices, was evacuated and sealed off for over 30 minutes as police investigated a "suspect package." King's Cross station was also closed briefly due to a security alert.
But London is not alone. Italy and Denmark -- like Britain, key allies in the U.S.-led military operation in Iraq -- have also been the target of bomb scares and menacing Internet messages that threaten to become a daily fixture. "Of course we're afraid, but what can we do? We still have to go to work, we still have to use the Metro to get there," said Adriano Lardera, 64, as he walked out of Milan's crowded Duomo metro station by the city's cathedral. "Life goes on. And if it happens, it happens."
"There is no reason for particular alarmism," said Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini after a reporter asked if he thought Italy would be next. "But there is even less reason not to act with conviction and determination." In recent days, Rome has had to evacuate a terminal at its international airport, a street near the interior minister's home and the main offices of a major bank. Officials in Copenhagen have meanwhile emptied train and underground stations three times to examine suspicious luggage. All the incidents have proven to be false alarms, but they have left Europeans twitchy and afraid. Even fairly commonplace power failures and train delays have sparked moments of panic.
Shortly after the London attacks, a group claiming links to al Qaeda said it was responsible for the bombs and threatened to target Italy and Denmark next if they didn't withdraw troops. The Internet message and similar claims by two other little-known Islamist groups are being treated with caution but security measures across Europe have been stepped up. Public transport has come under particular scrutiny, with uniformed officers and plainclothes police patrolling train, subway and bus stations. Commuters and consumers are trying to come to terms with their new reality. "I was thinking about the attacks today. I considered if I should take the train," Helle Bovbjerg, 34 told Danish daily Ekstra Bladet. "There is a certain shock effect, but you have to live life like before. Otherwise you would go crazy."
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You can't just throw up pictures like that....
THE MAD BOMBER is not a perfect film, but it is an entertaining one. The late Chuck Connors, with his coke bottle eyeglasses and no-nonsense attitude, chews up the scenery and looks like he's enjoying it. The late Vince Edwards walks around like he has a salami stuck up his ass and it works here. The late Neville Brand is absolute slimey as the rapist. Realizing that all the major actors in this film are dead (and Bert Gordon is 84 years old as of this writing) makes me want to cry. At least we have THE MAD BOMBER and other films of the period to remind us how much we need actors of this calibre today, but that will never happen. So sit back, enjoy the show and think to yourself how your kids will never see new exploitation movies like this again. It's sad. A Goodtimes Home Video Release. Also known as POLICE CONNECTION and DETECTIVE GERONIMO (Edward's character). Rated R
Yes, this was three months ago. Did you miss it in the NYT/LAT/WaPo? Perhaps it was not widely reported? Hmmm. I think I do recall reading about a fatwa on Binny....
MADRID â Amid the anniversary events of the March 11 terrorist bombings, it was no great surprise that Al Qaeda representatives condemned last week's Democracy, Terrorism, and Security Summit here. What did grab attention was an unprecedented fatwa that Spain's own Islamic Commission issued Friday against Osama bin Laden and his followers. The fatwa is unlikely to have much global impact, but in Spain - where Muslims, Jews, and Christians coexisted peacefully for centuries - the move by the country's largest Muslim organization is seen as a welcome gesture. Indeed, a year after Islamist terror groups made Spain a key front in their global jihad, Muslims here are speaking out against militant Islam with renewed vigor.
On Saturday, barely a day after the Summit - attended by world leaders including UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright - had issued its recommendations for democracy's response to terrorism, an Al Qaeda-linked website published its attack. Threatening the Summit's participants, the inflammatory statement reportedly said, "You infidels, whatever you prepare, you will be defeated and never be victorious because Allah has promised us victory." The statement was attributed to Abu Maysara al-Iraqi, the "media coordinator" for Iraqi Al Qaeda affiliate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
But Spain's Muslim leaders had already claimed the high ground.
The Islamic Cultural Center of Madrid, for example, which is the country's largest mosque, draped itself with a huge commemorative banner that denounced terrorism and applauded tolerance. It sent memorial wreaths that were displayed at the central commemorative festivities held at the Atocha train station last Friday.
In Fuengirola, cleric Mohammed Kamal Mustafa said Friday that the terrorists who committed the attacks in Madrid last March "are not Muslims and have nothing to do with Islam, but only exploit the religion's name to inflict harm on innocent people." And in Valencia, an estimated 100 Muslims donated blood at their mosque to show solidarity with the victims of terrorism.
Most significant, however, was the fatwa issued by the Islamic Commission, the organization that mediates between the Spanish government and the nation's Muslim community. The edict condemns bin Laden and Al Qaeda members as apostates for their use of violence, and it calls on Muslims to fight actively against terrorism. The fatwa is the first of its kind to use the weight of religious authority to specifically denounce Mr. bin Laden, and it serves as a powerful reminder that the vast majority of Spain's nearly 1 million Muslims condemn terrorist tactics.
"We see this as our contribution," says Mansur Escudero, secretary general of the Islamic Commission. "a declaration from the Muslim community that says that bin Laden and Al Qaeda are not Muslims - they are outside of Islam."
The edict cites the Koran and the traditions of the life of the Prophet Muhammad, or Sunna, in condemning bin Laden. "Since bin Laden and his organization defend the legality of terrorism and base that defense in the sacred Koran and the Sunna ... [they] have made themselves apostates."
According to Escudero the fatwa - issued on the eve of the anniversary of the March 11 attacks - serves "as a call to conscience" for Muslims here. Some religious leaders in Morocco - the country of origin for most of the suspects in the March 11 bombings - and Libya have supported the Spanish Commission's edict.
But there have been few signs of change among the Sunni preachers in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere who have backed bin Laden in the past - and who reject groups like the one in Spain. For tafkiris, or rejectionists, such as bin Laden's followers, Muslims who work with what are regarded as infidel regimes like Spain are themselves rejected as unIslamic.
And in the broader Islamic world, where the terrorist bombings like the one in Madrid are rejected, there is still a high degree of support for the political causes that allegedly motivate such attacks. This takes the edge off any specific condemnations of bin Laden.
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Maybe, just maybe, there's hope. One problems is that Islam isn't like the Roman Catholic church, so there is no leadership that can order others to follow suit.
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Maybe, just maybe, there's hope. One problems is that Islam isn't like the Roman Catholic church, so there is no leadership that can order others to follow suit.
Well the Pope can issue an edict or what ever but that does not mean any one is going to pay attention either
And in the broader Islamic world, where the terrorist bombings like the one in Madrid are rejected, there is still a high degree of support for the political causes that allegedly motivate such attacks. This takes the edge off any specific condemnations of bin Laden.
I question the idea that the Madrid bombings were "rejected" in the wider Islamic world, but have no doubt that the goals of al'Qaeda are widely supported.
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You think the average muslim guy wants a single kalifate from Morocco to Indonesia?
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I think they'd accept, if not actively campaign, for it. Allan wants it
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Well theyre fatalists. Theyll accept a lot of things. Mubarak is in charge? Inshallah. Sadat is in charge? inshallah. Sadat is dead? inshallah. The brits are in charge. Inshallah.
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Well theyre fatalists. Theyll accept a lot of things. Mubarak is in charge? Inshallah. Sadat is in charge? inshallah. Sadat is dead? inshallah. The brits are in charge. Inshallah.
Israel exists... inshallah? No... don't hear that one.
Saddam's deposed... inshallah? No... don't hear that one.
The Taliban's deposed... inshallah? No... not that one, either.
Some Korans were handled by kaffirs... inshallah? Nope...
There's a play about a suicide bomber that shows her as an average teen... inshallah? Nope. Didn't happen.
Oh, and there are quite a few Muslims living in Great Britain who really aren't that keen on the British being in charge there. You might have heard about the act of fatalism they performed on the subways and busses of London last week.
I really wonder if you'd be as tolerant of Christians supporting -- even by silent assent -- fascism as you are of Muslims who do it. I doubt it -- I think you'd hold them to a higher standard.
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"Israel exists... inshallah? No... don't hear that one."
The opposition to Israel was led for 30 years by secularist arabs, military types. The others really werent that worked up. Working them up took decades of official and unofficial propaganda, a virtually unanimous call from EVERY mosque, every newspaper, and from secular pols and radicals, including christians.
"Saddam's deposed... inshallah? No... don't hear that one."
Actually i think you DO get some of that. The general reports of numbness when the US troops came in. Its taken all the effort of Ayatollah Sistani to get people out of fatalist mode and voting. Or are you talking about the insurgents? 20,000 guys, maybe 200,000 hard core supporters, in sunni arab population of about 5 million. Yup, mostly its inshallah.
"The Taliban's deposed... inshallah? No... not that one, either."
For most Afghans, I suspect it is. Again, as with Iraq, are you referring to people who cheered the fall, or to those fighting to bring them back?
"Some Korans were handled by kaffirs... inshallah? Nope..."
In most of the muslim world, its been met with a yawn, I think. A couple of big demos in Afghanistan, engineered, Id say.
"There's a play about a suicide bomber that shows her as an average teen... inshallah? Nope. Didn't happen."
Huh?
"Oh, and there are quite a few Muslims living in Great Britain who really aren't that keen on the British being in charge there. You might have heard about the act of fatalism they performed on the subways and busses of London last week."
Oh, well, theyre living in the modern West, and may have lost some of their fatalism. I would hardly call any muslim living in the West average. Whether its the ones trying to westernize, or the ones planting bombs.
I really wonder if you'd be as tolerant of Christians supporting -- even by silent assent -- fascism as you are of Muslims who do it. I doubt it -- I think you'd hold them to a higher standard.
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"I really wonder if you'd be as tolerant of Christians supporting -- even by silent assent -- fascism as you are of Muslims who do it. I doubt it -- I think you'd hold them to a higher standard."
silence implies consent. So if you live in a country like say, Egypt, where the govt asserts its national independence, flies a flag, plays an anthem, and the 'official' preachers defend the notion of the independent state, and a few underground preachers call for a califa, does that imply assent to the independent state, or to the Kalifa?
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In grad school I had a Chinese-Malaysian classmate who told me that in WWII his relatives were happy about the Japanese invasion. All these Europeans had been tromping over the place for centuries, throwing their weight around, and now it was time for Asians to kick a little ass.
I trust this was their attitude before their women were hauled off to the brothels, and their children used for bayonet practice, but you never know.
I suspect similar thinking animates those Muslims who aren't exactly signing up for their Semtex, but nevertheless hand out the candy when someone else does. They see it as a blow against the colonial oppressors (though I believe the reports of the colonial oppression of the ME have been greatly exaggerated), and don't think of other consequences. They don't believe that the noble jihadis would commence oppressing other Muslims as soon as the last Westerner is blown up. And if they do, well, inshallah.
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The opposition to Israel was led for 30 years by secularist arabs, military types. The others really werent that worked up. Working them up took decades of official and unofficial propaganda, a virtually unanimous call from EVERY mosque, every newspaper, and from secular pols and radicals, including christians.
The attacks on Israel started from day one of its existence. It didn't take 30 years to declare a jihad against Israel; Azzam Pasha did that the next day.
On most of the other points, it IS the westernized population that is expressing the loudest anger. Your reaction:
Oh, well, theyre living in the modern West, and may have lost some of their fatalism. I would hardly call any muslim living in the West average. Whether its the ones trying to westernize, or the ones planting bombs.
"There's a play about a suicide bomber that shows her as an average teen... inshallah? Nope. Didn't happen."
Huh?
Cincinnati's Playhouse in the Park was going to put on a play by a local playwriter that "dealt" with the lives of two teens in the Middle East. One, a suicide bomber, the other a victim of a suicide bomber. Well, naturally, the nutjob with the bomb got the better treatment, but that wasn't enough for the local (and not so local) Islamist community. You see, in his attempt to make the splodeydope more approachable for a western audience, the playwright had her listening to music and worrying about clothes, boys, etc. That got a bunch of beards in knots.
At first the playwright offered to work with them to make it more "acceptable", but eventually the playhouse dropped the whole project. Hard to understand why, what with all the love and tolerance they were getting from the religion of peace.
I'm not surprised you're not aware of this case. As it's not too flattering to the Muslim community, it didn't get much coverage.
silence implies consent. So if you live in a country like say, Egypt, where the govt asserts its national independence, flies a flag, plays an anthem, and the 'official' preachers defend the notion of the independent state, and a few underground preachers call for a califa, does that imply assent to the independent state, or to the Kalifa?
Go to any mosque in the West (let alone in the Islamic countries) on any Friday and you are sure to hear a litany of woes about how the "cross-worshippers" have allied themselves with the "plotting Jews" in order to destroy Islam, which, as God's final message, is the only true faith....
The London attack was not the work only of the few individuals who carried it out. It was the bitter fruit of a faith that has been hijacked by a minority of extremists while the majority of its adepts watch with a mixture of awe and ill-concealed pride.
Silence in the face of this is the problem.
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...Quibbles 'n Bits...
And then the freakishly tall, fabulously wealthy, deranged and devoted Caliphatist stood up and proclaimed the Jihad. Didn't really matter much where, or when, or upon whom - as long as it served The Dominion Dream. Serendipity Struck: a failing Soviet Union with an inept broken military combined with the sickest, twisted, cretins ever produced by the ISI in concert with Wahhabi Islam. Shit Happened! It was a come as you are party - a freakshow which Captured a Flag. Ahmed Afghani's Excellent Adventure. Soon, freaks from all over the Bottom of the Barrel jumped at the chance for ghoulish glory and pious power in Little Mo's Derring-Do Brigades: stoning, whipping, soccer shootouts - a Grand time was has by All The Chosen Few. Burqas Bloomed! Buddhas Boomed! The imams picked up the call and swallowed the zakat gratefully, rolling in piety. The message spread: power and influence and status are yours! Boffo sales among the Dregs of Demographic Disasters! Royals Rejoiced! Dictators Drooled! PakiWakis Proliferated! Khans and Kimmies Krowed! Mullahs Maddened! Ghouls Gladdened! Then Bush Bashed and Cultures Clashed and Moonbats Gnashed and Talibanis Crashed! Saddam Fooled and Drooled! Bush wasn't Buying and soon Saddam was Crying while the Ex-Allies sat on their Hands. The Ba'athists and The Freaks and The imams and the Royals and The Dictators and The Mad Mullahs, each for difference reasons, knew a Good Thing when they had one going... They cried in secret unison, "The Great Game must Go On!" So Jackoff Jihadi, The Saw, and The Freaks played on, supported by The Enablers.
And the Moderate Muzzies said, insh'allah, paid their zakat to the jihadi imam, made their donations to the jihadi charities, kept their freaking mouths shut tight, and awaited the call to open their doors to The Lions and donate their children to the freaks.
Spelling error: fatalities, not fatalists.
Insh'allah suckersinfidels, well, you know who we mean, now don't you?. Lol.
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"I would hardly call any muslim living in the West average."
good catch. Obviously muslims living in the west are average WESTERN muslims.
Let me rephrase. I would hardly call any muslim living in the west representative of the average of all muslims living around the globe, those living in dar al Islam being much more numerous than those living in the West, and being much more fatalistic.
Is that clear now? You said in number 3, that the goals of aq qaeeda were widely supported, after mentioning the wider Islamic world.
To me the wider islamic world means every muslim from Morocco to Indonesia. almost 2 billion people.
Now some folks on NPR and elsewhere think that the goals of Al Qaeeda are Israeli withdrawl from the West Bank, and US withdrawl from Iraq. But you and I are not so naive. Which is why i asked about the Khalifa. AFAICT no more than a tiny proportion of the 2 billion muslims wake up every day wishing for the revival of the Khalifa, mourning the events of 1924, etc. (note that when youre dealing with a population of 2 billion, a tiny proportion can still be alot) You said, well, theyd accept it. I presume this to mean that in the unlikely eventuality that AQ DID establish a Khalifate from Morocco to Indonesia, they wouldnt go out protesting. The mass of fatalist peasants would look up, go 'inshallah' and return to their herds, their rice paddies, their market stalls. Which I cannot disagree with. But would assert that they would do so with respect to most anything. Do you really think that the folks who gave the israelis the most trouble over the years were beduin herdsmen, or egyptian fellahin, or even West bank farmers? No, AFAICT at every turn it was "intellectuals" whether western trained or imams of some kind. NOt the mass of fatalists.
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Well, I am delighted three-month old news brought forth such a response!
Dot Com - did you just make that up today? Can I copy it and frame it? Have you thought about writing Dr. Suess books? I mean, like Dr. Seuss, but not dead. Very clever.
Time will tell, but one percent of two billion is ... lemme see ... 20 million! A small percentage, but a huge number!
It's too bad we can't get "mythical moderate muslim" to offer his/her thoughts here. Surely, they would be tolerated, if one exists?
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Is that clear now? You said in number 3, that the goals of aq qaeeda were widely supported, after mentioning the wider Islamic world.
To me the wider islamic world means every muslim from Morocco to Indonesia. almost 2 billion people.
I stand by that. If there were no such support, if there were in fact opposition, al'Qaeda wouldn't be able to move money and people around so easily. They wouldn't be able to send out recruiters without those recruiters being exposed. Their "intellectuals" wouldn't be able to preach hate without being exposed.
One of the lists of stopped terrorist attacks I saw had dozens of Moroccans on it. Bali, of course, was the act of Indonesians. In Thailand the muslims are chopping the heads off of Buddhist teachers. In the Phillipines you have MILF, which in their case are NOT operating pornographic websites. In Iran you have, well, the Iranian government. In Saudi Arabia we have "moderates" who say "well, I hate the Christians and Jews, but I wouldn't personally kill one". In the west we have coddled immigrants who think to repay our tolerance by blowing themselves up in buses and planes, or native converts who think going to war against their homeland or shooting a few random pedestrians is a religious duty.
The beasts of Beslan slaughtered children while chanting "Allahu Akbar". The Nord Ost murderers proclaimed their desire for an independent Chechnia -- so long as it's ruled by sharia, of course.
If the mass of the Muslim world opposed this, it would stop. To abuse one of Mao's analogies, the so-called moderates provide the sea in which the terrorist fish swim. If they opposed the jihadis, that sea would dry up, and the exposed terrorists would die away.
I have some hope for Iraq -- some of the people there seem intent on opposing it. If Iraq works, it's the best hope of seeing a Muslim population against terrorism. If Iran ever throws out the Mullahs, there's another chance. Afghanistan, unfortunately, is a slim chance just because of its proximity to the "land of the pure".
Beyond those three, though. I have no doubt the Muslim world supports the goals of al'Qaeda.
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"...the Summit - attended by world leaders including UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright"
WTF?!?!? Albright a world leader 3 months ago? And what is that multicultural multibitch doing representing the USA? That's like CAIR representing Israel against UN resolutions.
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"If there were no such support, if there were in fact opposition, "
Why? There are 2 billion muslims, thats thousands and thousands of villages and urban neighborhoods. AQ doesnt run its finances, or do its recruiting in all of them. They recruit on the Pashtun side of Afghanistan, not the Tajik side. The Sunni triangle in Iraq, not the Shiite or Kurdish areas. In southwest Saudi, not in secularist North Teheran. I presume they know more or less EXACTLY where there prime recruiting and support grounds are, down to specific mosques - which mosques will generate recruits, which will not but will look away, and which will turn them in.
I would also suggest that there are people who do oppose them, but stay silent out of fear. Folks who are willing to kill at the drop of a hat have a real advantage over folks who want to be left alone to live their lives (and once again, not being willing to be a hero to stop AQ is not the same as being an accomplice)
also, to the extent that folks DO pick up whats going on in Mosques, and DO report them, would the details be public? I presume the databases that are used to determine persons of interest, that the UK security are using in their investigation this week, is in part a result of muslim informants in mosques and elsewhere. Im glad though that these sources and methods are being kept secret.
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"If there were no such support, if there were in fact opposition, "
Why? There are 2 billion muslims, thats thousands and thousands of villages and urban neighborhoods. AQ doesnt run its finances, or do its recruiting in all of them. They recruit on the Pashtun side of Afghanistan, not the Tajik side. The Sunni triangle in Iraq, not the Shiite or Kurdish areas. In southwest Saudi, not in secularist North Teheran. I presume they know more or less EXACTLY where there prime recruiting and support grounds are, down to specific mosques - which mosques will generate recruits, which will not but will look away, and which will turn them in.
I would also suggest that there are people who do oppose them, but stay silent out of fear. Folks who are willing to kill at the drop of a hat have a real advantage over folks who want to be left alone to live their lives (and once again, not being willing to be a hero to stop AQ is not the same as being an accomplice)
also, to the extent that folks DO pick up whats going on in Mosques, and DO report them, would the details be public? I presume the databases that are used to determine persons of interest, that the UK security are using in their investigation this week, is in part a result of muslim informants in mosques and elsewhere. Im glad though that these sources and methods are being kept secret.
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"To abuse one of Mao's analogies, the so-called moderates provide the sea in which the terrorist fish swim. If they opposed the jihadis, that sea would dry up, and the exposed terrorists would die away."
Mao was speaking of guerilla warfare, and even there its quite possible for a guerilla force to coerce cooperation. Terrorists have a smaller footprint than guerillas, and hardly need the magnitude of support.
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Ah, Lib hawkster is over here carrying water for the Religion of Pieces again...whatta surprise.
"To abuse one of Mao's analogies, the so-called moderates provide the sea in which the terrorist fish swim. If they opposed the jihadis, that sea would dry up, and the exposed terrorists would die away."
This is correct and should be noised abroad in both the UK and the rest of Europe as well as the U.S. ASAP.
Time has not been on our side since 9/11.
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Why? There are 2 billion muslims, thats thousands and thousands of villages and urban neighborhoods. AQ doesnt run its finances, or do its recruiting in all of them.
Yet it exists. It must exist somewhere. Why aren't the moderates in those places blowing the whistle?
I would also suggest that there are people who do oppose them, but stay silent out of fear.
Inexcusable.
People opposed the Klan, and some paid for their opposition with their lives.
People opposed the Nazis, and some paid for their opposition with their lives.
In what way is it acceptable to not oppose the jihadis, simply out of fear for your life? Particularly if, as we're constantly told, the jihadi/Islamist ethos is antithetical to Islam -- in that case, opposing it becomes a religious duty.
No, I don't expect everyone to do something. But I'd expect more than the, oh, 50 that showed up at the Free Muslims Against Terror March.
also, to the extent that folks DO pick up whats going on in Mosques, and DO report them, would the details be public? I presume the databases that are used to determine persons of interest, that the UK security are using in their investigation this week, is in part a result of muslim informants in mosques and elsewhere. Im glad though that these sources and methods are being kept secret.
Yeah, because secrets are better than public attention!
Christ, LH, are you even paying attention to what you're writing?
If a big Christian church -- one of the so-called "mega churches", let's say -- started playing host to Christian identity theology, would it be better for the police to secretly get a tip, or for that fact to be splashed across the front page of the local paper? Which do you think would put an end to it quicker?
What makes Muslims different?
(And we KNOW this crap is being pushed in mosques in the US.)
Mao was speaking of guerilla warfare, and even there its quite possible for a guerilla force to coerce cooperation. Terrorists have a smaller footprint than guerillas, and hardly need the magnitude of support.
I disagree. The need for a base for training, the need for support, the need for communications (not just information, but cash and supplies), all point to a larger organization than just a few lone nuts.
Keep in mind that we're not talking about a few lone nut jobs like the Unabomber. Literally dozens have been arrested for the support they gave the 9/11 hijackers -- who supported those dozens? Did none of them talk to any of their co-religionists?
What about the Lodi case? One of the "agitators" in that case started travelling around the US in 1988, speaking at mosques and raising money for his father's madrassah. He was in "high demand" at mosques around the US, and apparently raked in money for the madrassah.
That madrassah was one of the ones that fed into the Taliban and the Kashmir terrorism.
Do you believe everyone who listened to his talks were unaware of what he was supporting? Do you believe everyone who donated to support that madrassah was unaware of what it was teaching?
Where was the outrage? Why was this fellow welcomed into a mosques all over the US?
Be honest, LH, and admit that we're not even seeing some of the basic moves we'd expect. Go read David Frum's Diary for today. There's a list from Frum himself of what we should expect from Muslims in the west, and a summary of an article from Mansoor Ijaz on the same subject.
None of those steps -- even ones as basic as open accounting and a pledge to ban "preaching of hate" in mosques -- have been done. It's been four years since 9/11, and we're still waiting on basic steps.
I find that unacceptable.
I can't understand why you don't.
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Permission to copy and put to a severe back-beat, ala AC-DC, .com? I was wrapping all the way through, should make an impression on a few English speaking jihadis in Leeds on a Friday night, when played in Arabic at lunch-time. They would not believe it, but I do.
Well theyre fatalists. Theyll accept a lot of things. Mubarak is in charge? Inshallah. Sadat is in charge? inshallah. Sadat is dead? inshallah. The brits are in charge. Inshallah.
"Sadat is dead?" Inshallah?"
The will of Allan? I think not, particularly since it was the Muslim
Brotherhood (or was it Islamic Jihad?) who murdered him for signing Camp David.
"The brits are in charge? Inshallah?"
Again, they most certainly do NOT accept it as God's will or we wouldn't have the phenomenon of the 7/7 bombings, their first step on the road to the violent overthrow of the British government and to the establishment of the Dar al Islam on the emerald isle.
I hate to say it (not really! LOL) but you are either the biggest idiot, Lib hawkster, or you're actually a Muslim yourself.
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That should read: Any translators out there (with access to backward graphics.. and spell-checks written by the true kaffirs....). I am thinking of taking written arabic, but cannot trust my teacher, what shall I do, all that western influence, I must go boom myself.
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"None of those steps -- even ones as basic as open accounting and a pledge to ban 'preaching of hate' in mosques -- have been done. It's been four years since 9/11, and we're still waiting on basic steps."
I'd say even that assessment is overly charitable. I gave up waiting for even the most rudimentary indications of "moderation" from American Muslims a long time ago, once CAIR started churning out its Jesse-Jackson-style bogus victimhood crap.
"Moderate Muslims" are as moderate Muslims do-- and they haven't done squat.
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From one Jennifer to another, Jennie, please stop. We all know Liberalhawk is as Jewish as I, and just because you don't like him doesn't excuse such insults. Liberalhawk is trying to argue reasonably, with references upon request. You don't like what he has to say, so once again you lash out. I haven't noticed you treat anyone else here this way, and it isn't necessary, because you really can argue effectively when you want to. Please?
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Take it from me---the Rantburg Resident Imam---that fatwas are a dime a dozen, and nobody pays any attention to them any more. **sigh** Looking for a fatwa that promotes your cause is like shopping for a jury to rule in your favor.
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Um, I'm not sure where the Jewish issue came in unless I missed it on another thread---but that was pretty snarky and personal. I've found it best to be tolerant and accepting of the particularly sentimental foibles of liberals travelling with us---which is probably how I've come to be marrying one in September. :)
But to the topic at hand, I tend to agree with AP.
It's going to take much more than this. It's a nice gesture, but it's more a gesture toward the West, than toward Islam. These whacked-out, weirdly oriented Muslims that likely have the occasional drink in the local pub and don't cover themselves properly aren't going to make much of an impression on the traditional Islam that caused the bombings in the first place.
What it might take, if anything, to change the course of mainstream Islam is anybody's guess. Bahaullah didn't take. Either not enough of a sacrifice, or too much of a perversion of Islamic belief.
Islam needs a Valentine Smith---enough of a sympathetic figure to draw attention, and enough of a sacrifice to equal Ali. And even then it might only make a schism, not a sea change.
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trailing wife, I respect and like you alot, but not even for your sake and the sake of RB comity could I let such inanities stand.
To "accurately" parrot Muslims as saying that these events, most of which were terrorist murder perpetrated by Islamist jihadis, as "the will of God/Inshallah" is beyond the Pale. (at least my Pale.)
Thanks. Really -- the whole time I felt like I was banging my head against a wall. I still feel that way, but at least now I know somebody thought it was worth it.
*sigh*
I have a feeling we'll be having this same discussion again in six months, after another attack carried out by another group that somehow managed to hide in the middle of all those moderates.
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fer love of...
On closer reading, this bitch session seems to rest on a semantic point.
Hypothetically speaking, OK? There's a "work accident" in Gaza, and an orphanage is blown up. I come on here and postin context:
"A dozen babies were killed, Inshallah."
Is it respectful of the dead?
No.
Does it mean I rejoice to see babies die?
No.
Does it mean I'm an Islamist, and am poking a stick at other commentors?
No.
IS IT an irreverent slap at the mores of Islamic predestination?
YES!
IS IT a mockery of much that seems to be wrong with Islamist morals?
Yes! By Jove, I think I hear a buzzer!
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Rhodesiafever, are there any Yemenite Jews in your current part of the world (I know that most went to Israel "on the wings of eagles", ie El Al, but surely some emigrated afterward). Some of the older Iraqi Jewish emigres should be able to speak/read/write Arabic as well -- assuming you can find one. I understand there are communities in Montreal, Canada and I knew some growing up in Buffalo, NY.
Asedwich: Heinlein? ;-) And Jennie's post #25 on this thread. Oh, and heartiest congratulations. Your breakfast conversations, and evening makings-up, should keep you from being bored for at least the first three decades, as I well know. It isn't only on religion that Mr. Wife and I differ! ;-D Fortunately, we do agree on the most important stuff.
Jennie, I don't object to disagreements (or I should have spontaneously combusted decades ago!), but calling Libhawk a Muslim did nothing to advance your argument in that post, which I thought quite good until that last sentence closed it down as far as I was concerned.
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This isn't about semantics, assuming I get what you said, Asedwich.
It's about personally cherished liberal philosophy getting smack in the way of the facts.
I consider those who willfully argue trash in order to preserve and promote their precious personal world view as dangerous - especially if they happen to be loquacious and articulate. We need a BS Meter to keep track of the logical fallacies employed. Example of such mock serious crap:
tw (fellow Jen), I know LH is supposed to be Jewish. So he keeps telling us, but he argues so plaintively for and has been such a longtime apologist for the Islamist murderers beyond the point of even "liberal" seemliness and even throughout the horrors of the (last) Intifada, that I can only conclude that he might be Muslim himself.
If he's not, he's the most self-hating Jew I've seen in a while besides Barbra Streisand.
We have only the word of an anonymous pseudonym as to his (her?) real religious affiliation.
Beware of the wolf wearing sheep's clothing.
He/she questioned my bona fides the other day, well that door swings both ways.
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You may take it from me, Jennie, that he is indeed Jewish. It's a subject I've studied more than a bit, and he is one of the few people I've met (please excuse my pride here) who know more than I do. His knowledge of Israel's internal politics and the many flavours of Socialism also track with what I know (remembering that my father was of the founding generation of Israel), and again go beyond. The things you two disagree upon... that's between the two of you. But you are a Texas lady, and I'm sure can make your point waaaay more effectively than overt insult. (I've never dared try bandying words with a Southern lady with her dander up!) I look forward to learning the art from your future posts, or at least trying to. ;-)
BEIRUT, Lebanon, July 12 (UPI) -- The Lebanese army claims four Israeli warplanes violated Lebanese air space, flying over south and eastern Lebanon Tuesday. The planes allegedly entered Lebanon's space from the west coming from the direction of the Mediterranean Sea off the cost of Tyre in south Lebanon. They flew over southern regions, then headed east toward the Bekaa valley before turning toward Israel. The planes were not fired on by anti-aircraft guns manned by the Lebanese army and Hezbollah.
Lebanon repeatedly asks the United Nations to restrain Israel's alleged frequent violations of its air space.
And the UN frequently complains about it while Israel politely pretends to listen.
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BEIRUT, Lebanon, July 12 (UPI) -- Syrian security forces detained 11 suspected members of a terrorist group as they attempted to cross into Iraq, Saudi daily al-Sharq al-Awsat reported Tuesday. The paper said in the un-sourced report that the group's members belonged to several nationalities, including Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Libya and Tunisia, and they were arrested trying to enter Iraq. It said the suspects were chased in the desert area of Abu Shamat near the Iraqi-Syrian border, and they are all Muslim fundamentalists who planned to carry out terrorist attacks in Iraq.
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Been a awfull lot of these stories around lately I wonder if now since Iraq is coming under control the Iraqi military is taking over from the US while the US troops run continuous offensive raids in the west and conquer sequere then place Iraqi forces to hold the territories while the Iraqi gov leaders have been demanding US move acroos the border into Syria proper to destroy the terrorist bases and form a buffer zone. I wonder if old Asaad has finaly woke up and realized the US troops are a lot more scary and dangerous than the terrorist. Then again this all could be BS show just to help in the PR game to prevent a US push into Syria.
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Occam's razor suggests that these individuals were first told by the Syrians, "Don't cross there, the Americans are set up on the other side to kill you." To which they responded, "Good, we will cross there so that we can fight them all the sooner!" (It's a common Asiatic thing.) At which point the Syrians put them under arrest because they were stupid to the point of embarassing everybody.
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When the PLO was doing this to the Israelis and having a hard go at it, they turned on their Jordanian hosts. They did they same thing to their Lebanese hosts as well. How long before the light goes on with the Syrians, that once the terrorist figure its dead end to cross the border but possible to establish an Islamic State in Syria, its their turn.
A powerful car bomb has injured the outgoing Lebanese defence minister, and killed at least two other people. Police said Elias Murr was taken to hospital with minor wounds while one of his entourage was seriously injured. Television footage showed two wrecked vehicles and a bloodied casualty in severe shock being helped from a car.
"Mahmoud, we're gonna boom Murr. Get the good explosives!"
"Boss, we used all the good explosives on the last two guys! All we got left is the cheap stuff!"
"Damn! Well, it'll just have to do until we get a new shipment from Damascus!"
Lebanon has seen a string of bombings against anti-Syrian opposition figures since last year. Mr Murr by contrast is a staunch supporter of Syria.
"Boss, why we gonna boom Murr? He dances like a puppet!"
"He's out. What use is he to us anymore? Things're tight. We gotta cut payroll!"
The bomb went off as Mr Murr's motorcade passed in the affluent Christian suburb of Antelias. "I saw smoke and fire out on the street and people screaming. It was a very loud explosion," said one 14-year-old eyewitness.
Mr Murr is the son-in-law of pro-Syrian President Emile Lahoud and has been put forward as a loyalist representative in the cabinet being formed after the opposition victory in recent elections. "I know the country is going through a difficult phase and we all have to be steadfast until this phase passes," he said in a statement from his hospital bed broadcast on Lebanon radio. The latest blast came as Prime Minister-designate Fouad Siniora continued talks to build a coalition. It follows a month after leftist politician George Hawi and journalist Samir Qasir, both from the anti-Syrian camp, were killed in separate bombings. Correspondents say those attacks re-ignited anti-Syrian feeling in Lebanon after the opposition's success in elections.
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pro-syrian, so who's on the list of suspects
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who's on the list of suspects
Get a Beiruit phone book and pick a name at random.
The Syria-based Arab Human Rights Organization said Monday that local authorities had arrested, last Wednesday, 50 young men in the Shammas and Mukhayyam localities near the central city of Homs. "The arrests were made as local authorities were trying to round up some Jordanian students, who live in those localities near the Baath University," the organization said in a statement issued in Damascus.
Most of those arrested ranged in age between 16 and 20 and they came from several families including Subhiyya, Darwish and Ghannam, the statement said. The organization described the arrests as "unfair" and added that it viewed them with "growing concern." The statement called on the authorities to release all "political detainees" and issue a general amnesty, cancel the existing emergency laws and allow the judiciary to operate freely without outside interference. The organization's public relations officer, Ammar Qorba, told reporters that people were being arrested according to the emergency laws and on mere suspicion. He added that the growing number of arrests "raises several questions over the Syrian authorities' attitude towards the public freedom issue.
There were clashes in Homs recently. They involved a fundamentalist group led by a Tunisian national. The group was allegedly trying to sneak to Lebanon illegally. The clashes led to the killing of the group leader and left 34 people injured. Last week, there was a clash in the Qassioun Mountain in Damascus after a reported breaking and entering incident. The armed group included four members. In the aftermath of this clash, the authorities were able to track down a Jordanian wanted man, Mohammad Ayed Al-Samadi. He was found in the Al-Hosn hospital, in the Tal Kalakh area near Homs. He died there from injuries he had received in earlier clashes. His sister, Nisrin Al-Samadi, was arrested in addition to two persons, Mohammad Islam Al-Samadi and Rihab Al-Chehabi.
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"They involved a fundamentalist group led by a Tunisian national. The group was allegedly trying to sneak to Lebanon illegally. The clashes led to the killing of the group leader and left 34 people injured"
'Why are you headed to Lebanon?'
'We, er, we, just want to go to the beach, sir. We hear there are lovely beaches in Lebanon, Allah be praised'
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - American forces have captured a key operative in the organization of Iraq's al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the top U.S. general said on Tuesday.
Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the PBS program "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer" that Monday's capture of Abu Abd Al-Aziz, whom he called Zarqawi's "main leader in Baghdad," was "going to hurt that operation of Zarqawi's pretty significantly."
Myers said Al-Aziz was picked up "on the battlefield," but provided no other details.
A defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, added, "When you look at the picture of the Zarqawi network of the different elements that are known to exist, he's the second-in-command of the Baghdad element and has the reputation of being the 'emir of Baghdad' for Zarqawi."
The official said American forces were involved in the operation that snared Al-Aziz, but was unable to say whether Iraqi government forces played a role.
Al Qaeda Organization for Holy War in Iraq, led by the Jordanian-born Zarqawi, has carried out some of the deadliest attacks against U.S. forces, the Iraqi government and Shi'ite Muslims in Iraq as part of a tenacious insurgency.
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Must be their Ops guy. Can't run operations and lie low.
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Hundreds of US and Afghan troops searched yesterday for four Al-Qaeda militants who escaped from the main US military detention center in Afghanistan in what is a major embarrassment for American forces. A police officer and senior Afghan government official in Kabul had earlier said one of the escapees from Bagram Air Base had been recaptured but local Afghan authorities said this was not so.
Bagram district chief Kabir Ahmad said a man arrested at a mosque northwest of the base yesterday was not one of the escapees but someone with a mental disorder who had been mistaken for one of the four. A manhunt involving hundreds of US and Afghan troops backed by helicopters was launched on Monday after what was the first ever escape from the heavily guarded center deep within Bagram, the largest US base in Afghanistan.
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With those GPS implants, do you think they will lead us to Osama?
U.S. soldiers killed 14 insurgents in two days of fighting in a strategic northern city, the American military said Monday, and gunmen killed 10 Iraqi soldiers in the central Sunni heartland.
A hard-line Sunni clerical group accused Iraqi government commandos of torturing and killing 10 Sunni Arab civilians in Baghdad, fueling sectarian tensions between the country's two major religious groups.
Soldiers of the U.S. 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment killed four insurgents in a gunbattle Sunday, and 10 more were killed Monday as fighting raged in Tal Afar, 260 miles north of Baghdad, the U.S. command reported. American troops suffered no casualties, the statement said.
However, insurgents bloodied an Iraqi force in Khalis, 45 miles north of Baghdad. Guerrillas firing mortars, machine guns and semiautomatic weapons stormed an Iraqi checkpoint about 5 a.m., killing eight Iraqi soldiers, Khalis police chief Col. Mahdi Saleh said.
About 90 minutes later, a car bomb exploded a few miles away as an Iraqi army patrol passed, killing two soldiers, Saleh said. Two soldiers and three civilians were wounded in the attacks.
Al-Qaida in Iraq claimed responsibility for the attacks in a Web statement, but the authenticity of the posting could not be confirmed...
Six civilians were also killed in the Tal Afar fighting and 22 were wounded, according to the city police chief, Brig. Gen. Najim Abdullah al-Jubouri. Some of the wounded were hospital workers, officials said.
The city is home to Arabs, Kurds and Turkmen and is located along a major road to Syria, which U.S. and Iraqi officials say is a jumping off point for Islamic extremists infiltrating Iraq.
Two U.S. Marines were killed Sunday by "indirect fire" _ presumably mortar shells _ in the insurgent stronghold of Hit, the U.S. command said. Hit is on the Euphrates River in western Iraq, along another major route from Syria.
On Sunday, suicide attacks, car bombings and ambushes killed about 60 people in Baghdad and elsewhere. The spike in violence occurred despite an ongoing military operation in the capital, codenamed Lightning, that has sharply reduced suicide attacks in the capital.
Nevertheless, Defense Minister Saadoun al-Duleimi insisted Operation Lightning had been successful and would be followed by other offensives until "we break the back of the terrorists _ one after another."
Such operations have curbed insurgent attacks, but have also angered some Sunnis, who claim their neighborhoods have been unfairly targeted by security forces of the Shiite and Kurdish-dominated government. Sunni Arabs form the core of the insurgency.
On Monday, an influential Sunni clerical organization accused Iraqi security forces of detaining, torturing and killing 10 Sunnis in Baghdad. Government officials had no comment, but a doctor at Yarmouk hospital confirmed receiving the bodies, which he said showed signs of abuse. The doctor spoke on condition of anonymity, fearing reprisal.
The Association of Muslim Scholars said members of an Interior Ministry commando brigade detained the men Sunday as they visited relatives in Baghdad's predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Shula.
"The men were taken to a detention center where they were tortured, then locked in a container where they suffocated," the association said.
However, the doctor said one of the men was killed and the other nine detained after the troops came under fire Sunday in Shula. Defense Ministry officials declined comment, referring queries to the Interior Ministry. An Interior Ministry official said he had no immediate comment.
A U.S. soldier died of injuries he sustained when his patrol struck a land mine Monday west of Baghdad, the U.S. military said Tuesday. Also Monday:
_ U.S. and Iraqi officials signed four economic agreements in Amman, Jordan, at the end of talks headed by Undersecretary of State Robert Zoellick to boost reconstruction in Iraq.
_ Iraq's Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said Egypt's top envoy did not make any illegal or inappropriate contacts with insurgents in Baghdad. The statement came as Iraq tried to mend a rift with Egypt after Iraqi officials suggested slain envoy Ihab al-Sherif may have been meeting with Iraqi insurgents before he was kidnapped July 2.
_ Two of the 15 Sunni Arabs on a committee drafting Iraq's constitution have quit after receiving threats, committee members said.
The Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), an Algerian Islamist group, is planning to kidnap French nationals to force the release of its leader Abderrezak Le Para, currently jailed in Algeria.
According to Christophe Chaboud, head of the Antiterrorist Coordination Unit, the kidnapping of French nationals to exchange them for "the GSPC emir" was suggested to the Algerian Islamists by Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
"We have evidence of an exchange of mail and communications between al-Zarqawi in Iraq and the GSPC," Chaboud told the French daily Le Monde.
"France, which has always been regarded as an ally of the Algerian regime, is a priority target in their global jihad," the French police officer explained. He warned of GSPC actions in sub-Saharan Africa, blaming the Algerian Islamists for last June`s attack against a military barracks in southern Mauritania.
"We know that the GSPC conducted last June a deadly operation in Mauritania and is trying to develop at regional level, across sub-Saharan Africa, but also in France," Chaboud added.
Paris has decided to beef up security measures since the terrorist attacks which killed more than 50 people in London.
Soldiers, policemen and gendarmes are now patrolling French railway stations and airports, while other security personnel carry out selective search operations on vehicles and identity checks.
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3 terrorists killed in âcrossfireâ in Kushtia
July 11: One suspected leader of an outlawed party and two other "terrorists" were killed in a shootout with police at Hashimpur Betbaria village in Kumarkhali upazila early today. One sub-inspector of police and two constables were also injured during the late-night gunfight. The deceased were identified as Mohammad Ali, 35, said to be second-in-command in Tikka Bahini of Gono Mukti Fouz, Yusuf Ali, 25, and Adil, 25.
Gono Mukti Fouz would be an excellent name for a rock band.
Police said they arrested the three "terrorists" from Baksey Satpakhia village along with two firearms and 46 bullets on Sunday evening.
"Evening boys. Say, those guns look real heavy. Why don't we help you carry them down to the station where we can have a little talk"
During interrogation, they gave information about their arms and associates.
Our scene now shifts to Betbaria village at 2am. It's a dark and stormy night, when suddenly..
When police reached the spot along with the terrors,
....a shot rang out!
their associates opened fire, forcing the law-enforcers to fire back.
"It's the Cohorts of Gono Mukti Fouz! Have at um, boys!"
The gunfight lasted about an hour.
More or less. Mostly less..
"As the terrorists tried to escape during the encounter,
"Feet don't fail me now!"
they got caught in the crossfire and died on the spot," says a spot account of the shootout given by the cops in operation.
"Yup, they got shot on this spot, right behind the ear... er, I mean right behind the gas station"
They were taken to Kumarkhali Health Complex where the doctors declared them dead at about 3:30am.
"They're dead, Jim"
The police recovered 30 bullets from the spot. Police said Mohammad Ali was wanted in four murder cases and Adil and Yusuf each in three cases of killing.
Supporter of PCJSS chopped to death
RANGAMATI, July-11:âA supporter of pro-peace treaty Parbattya Chattagram Jana Sanghati Samity(PCJSS) was chopped to death after abduction and another was kidnapped by anti-peace treaty gunmen from the Islampur Ashrayan Prakalpa in Thaillya Chhari area in Naniachar Upazila of the district in the early hours today.
Being a pro-peace guy seems to get you a lot of enemies here as well as Somalia
Locals and security sources said that at around 12.30 am a group of anti-peace deal United Peopleâs Democratic Front(UPDF) activists equipped with arms raided at Islampur Ashrayan Prakalpa of Thaillya Chhari and founding PCJSS activists and supporters. At one stage, the gunmen of UPDF forcibly picked two supporters of PCJSS up at gunpoint. But the gunmen killed Samirom Chakma(30) son of late Chirajib Chakma by chopping him with sharp weapons on their way and they escaped leaving the death body of Samiron in full of blood.
So now he's late as well.
Another abducted person was identified as Chironjib Chakma (28). Getting information the military personnel from Naniachar Upazila Zone rushed to the scene and recovered the body of Samiron. Later army men handed the body over to Naniachar Thana police.
Security men also recovered two rounds of live bullets and one husk of point 22 bore rifle from the place of occurrence.
"husk"? I'll take a wild guess and say they mean a expended shell casing.
Naniachar police sent the body to Rangamati General Hospital for postmortem today(Monday).
"He's been hacked to pieces. Isn't that enough of a cause of death for you?"
A case was filed with Naniachar Thana in this connection.
RAB nabs 2 in city
Members of the Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) yesterday arrested two persons, including a listed criminal, with arms and ammunition from the cityâs Hazaribagh and Malibagh area. Arrested Md. Pavel, a son of Md. Dulal of village Madineemondal under Louhojang upazila in Munsiganj, is a listed criminal of the cityâs Hazaribagh area. Another arrested was identified as Md. Abul Hasem, son of late Abdul Aziz, a resident of 32/G-AB colony at Malibagh Chowdhuripara under the Ramna police station.
Sources in the law-enforcers said, a team of RAB-2, acting on a secret information, arrested Pavel in a raid conducted at the Bhagolpur Kitchen Market under Hazaribagh police station at around 8:30am.
"Stick um up, Pavel! Youse coming wid us, see!"
Another team of RAB-2 raided Malibagh Chowdhuripara area and arrested Abul Hasem at around 3:00am, the sources said. The RAB men also recovered a pistol loaded with two rounds of bullet from his possession.
"So tell us, Abul, ya got any more of these hidden around here?"
Police beats businessman to death in Gazipur
Local people attacked the police post at Shreepur in Gazipur after the police had beaten a businessman to death on Monday. The people also damaged a number of motor vehicles and put barricade on the Dhaka-Mymensing Highway, suspending the traffic for two hours. The deceased was identified as Hamidul Islam, 40.
Local people said a team of plainclothes police led by sub-inspector Delowar Hossain and Alim Uddin raided the house of one Alauddin and arrested four people, when they were playing cards at around 2:45pm.
"Howdy, boys. You got room at the table for more?"
The police released one person out of the four after taking bribe from him and took Hamidul Islam, Jalal Uddin and Dulal Uddin to the Maona police post.
"OK, you can go. Youse three guys are coming with us"
The police tortured them as they failed to fulfill their demand. Hamidul was critically injured and was taken to local Al-Hera Clinic, where the on-duty doctors declared him dead.
"He's dead, Jim"
Hearing the news, the local people brought out a procession and attacked the Maona police post, hurled brickbats on the police, put barricade on the Dhaka-Mymensing Highway and damaged a number of vehicles.
Ah, an old-fashioned brickbat hurling, haven't seen one of those since the last Teamsters convention.
Extra police were deployed in the area. Local leaders and the police high officials visited the spot and primarily closed the two sub-inspectors. The Shreepur police station duty-officer told New Age, âAngry people did not attack the police post and Hamidul died when he tried to escape arrest."
"Trust me"
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the "Kumarkhali Health Complex" is neither healthy nor complex.
I love the Crossfire Gazette - keep up the good work!
A bomber blew himself up among a group of teens near a shopping mall in the seaside city of Netanya on Tuesday, killing himself and two others in the second such attack since a truce was declared five months ago. About 30 people were wounded, two seriously, police said. There was no immediate claim of responsibility from a Palestinian militant group. The previous bombing was carried out by Islamic Jihad, which said in a statement after Tuesday's attack that it remained committed to the cease-fire.
Yeah, right
The blast went off shortly before 7 p.m. near the Sharon Mall in Netanya. Police said a preliminary investigation indicated the bomber blew himself up among a group of teenagers crossing a busy intersection. Police said they believe there is a link between the attack near the mall and an apparent car bomb explosion some 30 minutes earlier in the Jewish settlement of Shavei Shomron in the West Bank, near Netanya. Police said they have a suspect in the car bombing in custody, and that he belongs to Islamic Jihad.
Netanya is at Israel's narrowest point, nine miles from the West Bank. The city has been a frequent target of Palestinian bombers, but the number of attacks has dropped sharply in the past year, with completion of a section of Israel's separation barrier in the area. The mall has been a target for bombers in the past. On May 18, 2001, a bomber blew himself up at the mall, killing five Israelis. The last bombing in Netanya was on May 19, 2002, when three Israelis were killed on a street not far from the mall. The chief Palestinian negotiator, Saeb Erekat, condemned the bombing. "We understand that those who carried out this attack want to sabotage the efforts being exerted to have a smooth and peaceful disengagement from Gaza and a revival of the peace process," he said.
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...remained committed to the cease-fire
Israel ceases and PIJ fires. It's a win-win for everyone!
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Of course, this is nothing like the bombings in London, which shook the foundations of decency by targeting innocent civilians. This was meant to kill Jews.
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the number of attacks has dropped sharply in the past year, with completion of a section of Israel's separation barrier
clear, unequivocal evidence that the barrier works to prevent the needless murder of innocents. which, apparently, is not enough to persuade the UN and the Hague.
Saeb Erekat . . . condemned the bombing. "We understand that those who carried out this attack want to sabotage the efforts being exerted to have a smooth and peaceful disengagement from Gaza and a revival of the peace process"
once again, nothing about the atrocity of suicide bombing targeting, in this case, teens in a mall. the absence of statements even remotely related to the morality of such acts says so much about their true nature.
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Ya mean there's bombers in Israel, too? When did that start?
Sorry, that's my way of agreeing with PlanetDan. Except he forgot "Occupying" - as in "Occupying Jews".
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I guess he chose the group of teenage girls because they would be the least likely to be armed. I have two daughters and have recieved his message 5 by 5.
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The Palestinian terrorists chose teenagers because they are committed to a genocidal war and they are smart. Teenagers are the second most expensive assets for a society to lose (after university students). They represent years of sunk costs who are killed just before entering the work force and contributing to society. They are also very unlikely to be replaced by their aged parents.
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the only problem is that by doing so, they "kill" off the chances that they'll get what they want.
US-LED forces have recaptured one of four Arab al-Qaeda militants who escaped from the main US military detention centre in Afghanistan, an Afghan police officer said today. The officer, who did not want to be identified, said he had reports that the unidentified man was captured at a mosque in Bagram village, close to the US military base that houses the prison from where the four militants escaped early on Monday.
A spokesman for the US military said he had no information to confirm the report, but would check it.
Additional: One of four Arab Al Qaeda militants who escaped from the main US military detention centre in Afghanistan has been recaptured, a senior Afghan official says. The official says the man was found hiding in a mosque about two kilometres north-west of the giant US base at Bagram that houses the prison from which the militants escaped early on Monday. "He was found in the mosque at about 9.30," he said. "He was hiding there. The others are still at large." He says the unidentified Arab was recaptured unhurt in an operation involving the Afghan police Rapid Reaction Force and was handed over to US-led forces.
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Do you think we could take him out in the early morning hours to recover his weapons stash? And maybe run into his accomplices?
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Per the book I just finished, the Bagram base differed significantly when it was set up in that the deal with the local warlord required that the base be open to unescorted locals. Possibly that deal has now caused a problem - unless these guys were allowed to go to see whither they ran.
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The official says the man was found hiding in a mosque
Huh. Wonder why he thought he could shelter there.
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In that AC-130 video (militaryvideos.net) the only taliban who lives - runs in the mosque... Its too damn easy.
Iran, and not Saddam Hussein, was responsible for the killing of tens of thousands of Kurds and Shi'ites, a lawyer for the deposed Iraqi dictator said in comments published on Tuesday. Issam Ghazzawi, who is part of Saddam's defence team, told the daily Die Presse that "Iran is responsible for the murders of the Kurds" killed by poison gas in 1988.
"Iraq did not possess poison gas at this time," the lawyer was quoted as saying.
"Wasn't him, it was them dastardly Iranians! And the Joos!"
Iran also was responsible for the mass killings of Shi'ites who rose against Saddam in 1991, Ghazzawi reportedly said.
Uh huh. Aren't the Iranians Shi'ites as well?
More than 100,000 Kurds were estimated to have been killed by Saddam's troops in 1988, including about 5000 who were gassed to death in the Kurd city of Halabja and 8000 members of a powerful clan who were reportedly rounded up and shot. Up to 100,000 Shi'ites were killed, along with tens of thousands of Kurds, when Saddam moved to stamp out a rebellion after the first Gulf War in 1991.
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Isn't it fascinating that this all comes out now. Not that I don't believe him (*snicker*). But it's curious he didn't happen to mention it before. Guess he was too busy.
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I'd say it's time to switch jackasses ... uh I mean horses ... um, counsel again! I'd run with the evil twin brother at large defense. If not that then the Columbian drug gangs or revived 12th century assasins.
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Grush - sounds like the Dems and their fellow travellers the MSM today. :-(
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This will convince the same crowd that believe that the Mossad attacked the WTC. I don't think the Kurds are likely to buy this load of doodoo. Chemical Ali is on the record admitting that he gassed the Kurds.
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Ah, the sweet smell of progress.
We now have someone on Sadaam's side at least admitting that people were indeed massacred on his watch.
A senior Palestinian official has been seriously injured in an assault by a gang of masked gunmen. Ibrahim Salama was driving in the West Bank city of Ramallah when gunmen fired at his car to force him to stop, an interior ministry statement said. Mr Salama was severely beaten "with a sharp object" and taken to hospital.
It is the latest in a series of incidents believed to be part of a power struggle within the mainstream Fatah movement. Dozens of members of al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade, an armed offshoot of Fatah, stormed a government building in Gaza 10 days ago demanding Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas make good on a promise to recruit them into the security forces.
Mr Abbas described the assault on Mr Salama as "outrageous". "The security services will take immediate and serious action and will chase after those involved. We will deal with this firmly," Mr Abbas said. The interior ministry said the motive for the attack was not known but was being investigated. Mr Salama is a chief aide to Palestinian Authority (PA) Interior Minister General Nasser Yousef.
Correspondents say that the attack is symptomatic of not only the power struggle in Fatah, but also the deteriorating security situation in the West Bank and Gaza where PA forces struggle to maintain control.
Earlier on Tuesday, two Israeli soldiers were lightly wounded when a roadside bomb exploded alongside their jeep in the Gaza Strip. The bomb went as the soldiers patrolled the fence surrounding the main southern Jewish settlement bloc of Gush Katif, a military spokesman said.
There has been an increase in recent days of attacks by Palestinian militants on Israeli soldiers and settlers.
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..We will deal with this firmly," Mr Abbas said.
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And We're giving these PA nutjobs 9 billion in a new aid package?
Hopefully with lots of strings attached. Eg.after 1 month with no violence against Israelis $X, when all Arafat's secret accounts are tracked down and emptied into general PA funds $Y (not that they'll need it then, but still), and so forth. That also makes it highly likely the pledged monies will never be disbursed.
A Syrian-born terror suspect, reportedly sought in connection with the London bombings, is a fugitive in a Spanish case linked to September 11 and was already wanted under a $6.7 million bounty offered by the United States. Mustafa Setmariam Nasar, 47, was identified as a suspect by security sources quoted in London and Madrid newspapers, but British authorities have not named anyone as a suspect officially. Nasar, whose fair skin, red hair and green eyes make it easy for him to blend into European populations, is one of a dwindling number of former senior al-Qaeda operatives still at large.
German federal police are familiar with Nasar because he received payments of several thousand dollars from a Hamburg businessman with close ties to the September 11 hijackers. Counterterror experts from the German police attended a meeting on Saturday in London where representatives from more than 20 European nations forged a collaboration in the hunt for the London bombers. But a senior German intelligence official in Berlin who is being briefed by his British counterparts said yesterday that "we still know too little on the background of the London attacks" to identify a principal suspect.
Gustavo de Aristegui, an opposition leader in the Spanish parliament, said that Spanish government officials maintain they began warning the British some four months ago that Nasar represented a potential threat to Britain. While in London in the mid-1990s, he edited a magazine, Al Ansar, that was the organ of the violent, Algerian-based Armed Islamic Group.
In charging Nasar and more than 30 others last year with a supporting role in the September 11 hijackings, a Spanish magistrate asserted that in 1998 Nasar left London for Afghanistan to train young Muslims from France, Italy and Spain who were "reinstated in their respective countries as 'sleepers,' waiting for orders from the organisation." The Madrid newspaper El Pais said his trail was lost in Afghanistan in 2001. During Nasar's time in London, he received $US3,000 ($4,000) from Hamburg businessman Mamoun Darkazanli, German police documents show. The Spanish magistrate, Baltasar Garzon, described Darkazanli as Osama bin Laden's "chief financier" in Europe. Darkazanli is currently in a Hamburg jail fighting an extradition order to Spain. He has admitted knowing Mohamed Atta, who piloted the first plane to strike the World Trade Centre.
De Aristegui, who sits on the Spanish parliament's intelligence committee, said in an interview yesterday that there may be a similar pattern in the London bombings and the attack on Madrid trains in March 2004. "The foreign cell leader comes from abroad, and uses members of his organisation who are local, or people that are locally recruited," to carry out an attack," he said. One of those charged in the Spanish September 11 trial, Ghasoub al-Abrash Ghayoun, testified that Nasar was a proponent of Islamic holy war. After that testimony, the United States posted a $US5 million ($A6.7 million) reward for information leading to the arrest of Nasar, who holds a Spanish passport by virtue of his marriage to a Spanish woman.
Among the Islamic radicals in London linked to Nasar is Saad Rashed Mohammed al-Faqih, a Saudi dissident whose name appears in public records as having established the website where a claim of responsibility for the London bombings appeared briefly on Thursday.
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1998 Nasar left London for Afghanistan to train young Muslims from France, Italy and Spain who were "reinstated in their respective countries as 'sleepers,' waiting for orders from the organisation."
But..but...they attacked because of Italy and Britian sent troops to Iraq! I know because the enlightened intelligent tell me so.
US forces launched a manhunt for four âdangerousâ Arab Al-Qaeda militants who escaped from US detention in Afghanistan yesterday. In a fresh embarrassment for US forces reeling from their worst combat losses in Afghanistan since invading in 2001, the four were reported missing from the heavily guarded detention center at the main US base early in the morning. The escape was the first known from the detention center deep within the sprawling Bagram Air Base, about 50 km north of the capital Kabul. The US spokesman at Bagram, Lt. Col. Jerry OâHara, described the men as âdangerous enemy combatants,â but declined to identify them.
Kabir Ahmad, chief of Bagram district, said they were Syrian Abdullah Hashimi, Kuwaiti Mahmoud Ahmad Mohammad, Saudi Mahmoud Al-Fatahni and Libyan Mohammad Hassan. Dozens of US troops were seen stopping and searching vehicles every few hundred meters around the base and nearby villages, while US helicopters flew overhead. âWe consider this very serious business,â OâHara said. âThese guys are dangerous not only to Afghanistan but to the world in general.â He said there had been no US casualties in the escape and he had no reports of violence. âI canât give specifics on how they escaped,â he said. âThe circumstances surrounding the escape are under investigation as we speak.â
Mahmoud the Weasel was unavailable for comment...
OâHara said the men could still be on the base and it was being thoroughly searched by military police. Ahmad said he had heard the men may have escaped the base in a Japanese-made pickup truck. âIf they are in this area, then thereâs a strong possibility we will arrest them,â he said. Yesterdayâs incident capped a painful two weeks for the US military, which saw 19 US troops killed after a reconnaissance team of four Navy SEAL commandos was pinned down by militant fire in the eastern province of Kunar on June 28.
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save us the cost - don't take them alive
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The Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the military arm of Fatah Movement claimed on Monday responsibility for attacking an Israeli settlement in Gaza last night. The brigades said in a statement that one of its brigades launched two Aqsa-2 missiles against the settlement of Gush Katif. The brigades affirmed that they will continue the resistance all over the occupied Palestinian lands.
"We will have Dire Revenge!â¢"
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"The agsa-2, made by Wiley Walid E al Coyote Khayuti's ACME, Inc., the leading supplier of armaments in Gaza.
Two US soldiers were killed on Sunday in the city of Heit in western Iraq, confirmed the Multi-National Force (MNF) on Monday. In a press release, the force said that the two Marines were killed during an exchange of fire between unknown gunmen and the US forces while executing military operations in Heit.
Meanwhile, the US and Iraqi forces arrested 13 insurgents on Sunday and Monday during combing operations in central Iraq. An MNF press release said that soldiers in the Task Force Liberty in the US Army arrested nine individuals suspected of preparing and planting explosives near Tikrit. It added that the arrest was made based on upon citizens' tips, noting that investigations and gunpowder tests on three suspects turned positive, as they were possessing ammunitions and materials used for preparing explosives. A joint Iraqi-US force also arrested four individuals suspected of preparing and planting explosives nearby Mansouriya in Diyala Province, northeast of Baghdad. The press release said that all detainees were transported to a coalition forces' base for interrogations.
Meanwhile, nine out of 12 Iraqi detainees suffocated on Monday after spending over 14 hours inside an Iraqi Police truck in western Baghdad. An Iraqi Police source, who requested anonymity, told reporters that the remaining three detainees who survived the incident were transported to hospital for treatment. The Iraqi Police arrested the suspects in a hospital while they were accompanying a comrade who has been shot during clashes between the Iraqi Police and a group of gunmen in the area of Ameriya in western Baghdad. According to the source, the detainees were crammed into the police truck from Sunday morning until Monday 1:00 a.m., which led to the death of nine detainees due to lack of air.
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Abu, next time shoot some air holes in the truck when you load it full!
A police chief tasked with intelligence was gunned down by unknown gunmen in this southern Iraqi city on Monday, police reported. The police said the gunmen, in a speeding car, shot dead the police officer before fleeing.
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A government quartet committee released on Monday 280 Iraqi detainees who were suspected of terrorist activities. A statement by the Iraqi government said the quartet committee consists of interior ministry, human rights ministry, justice ministry and Multi-National Forces. It was founded to look into cases of Iraqi detainees. The statement further said the committee recommended to re-look into cases of 15,200 prisoners.
Meanwhile, Iraqi security forces arrested today 15 gunmen and seized a large quantity of weapons and explosives in Baghdad and Heit, said a statement by the security forces. It added that the forces captured seven Egyptian gunmen and one of an Indian citizenship. Security forces in Heit also arrested leader of a terrorist network and other six members of the network, the statement said. A hideout was found north of Baghdad where security forces seized mortars and explosives.
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NEW DELHI - A serious tragedy was averted when the Army defused a bomb planted inside a crowded bus-stand in the Indian administered state of Jammu and Kashmir, even as five suspected militants were killed in separate encounters, agency reports said on on Monday. The Indian army defused a powerful home-made explosive device planted in a scooter inside the main bus stand at Baramulla, 54 kilometers north of the state capital, Srinagar, the IANS news agency said. The bomb would have created mayhem had it exploded as hundreds of commuters were at the bus stand, police said.
Meanwhile, security forces shot dead a self-styled district commander of the Pakistan based Jaish-e-Mohammed terrorist group in an encounter on Sunday night. He was identified as Momin Khan of Pakistan, officials told PTI news agency. He was killed along with his local associate, Mohammad Iqbal Wani, in a two hour long encounter Sunday night at Chhatawach-Shopian village, some 55 kilometres from Srinagar.
In another incident three JeM militants, including the Pakistani nationals Umer Gazali and Hamza Bhai, were killed at the village of Bapura in the Baramulla district Sunday night, officials said. However, residents of the area held protests on Monday morning, alleging that one of the slain men was not a militant but an imam at a local mosque.
They shot an imam? Nice shooting, Sanjay!
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As many others here have noted, they won't stop sending in terrorists until the leaders themselves are held responsible. Level the moskkk and shoot the Imam. Kind of like the Ryan doctrine.
An Iraqi police source said in a press release that two armed men were killed as they were planting an explosive device along one of the main roads near Baquba in Diyala province. The source, who requested anonymity, said that the Iraqi security forces reached the scene shortly after the explosion and discovered in the vehicle of the perpetrators another explosive device. The city of Baquba witnessed on Saturday raid and inspection operations targeted against insurgents, especially that the security condition in the city is destabilized due to attacks against the Iraqi security forces and US forces.
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Iraq needs an OSHA to regulate dangerous occupations like this.
A Ugandan army spokesman said soldiers had killed the chief of staff of the Lords Resistance Army and the eldest son of the leader of the rebel group in a battle last month. "The LRA command structure is finished. The rebels are now operating as individuals. Many have given up war while others have been killed," said Lieutenant Colonel Shaban Bantariza.
You've been saying they're finished for the past four years, Jack...
He also announced that the rebels had killed at least 10 civilians in a separate attack on Sunday. In a battle on June 14 in Palabek village, about 290 miles north of the capital, Kampala, soldiers killed Major General Owor Lakati and an unspecified number of rebels including the eldest son of Joseph Kony, the LRA's leader, he said. Col Bantariza said it was only after interviewing rebel captives in recent days that the army had been able to confirm it had killed Gen Lakati.
It won't be over till they hang a toe-tag on Joe himself.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
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The trial will start in August of 31 suspected members of a cell linked to rebels accused of plotting and executing attacks, judicial sources said yesterday. Yemeni prosecutors have completed the interrogation of 31 suspected members of the âSanaa terrorist cell... which was plotting sabotage attacks in the capital, and hurled grenades on staff members of the Defense Ministry,â a ministry website quoted a judicial source as saying.
Arrests have been made in Yorkshire after the identity of the suspected London bus bomber led police to make raids in Leeds and Luton. Security sources told the BBC the bus bomb suspect died in the blast but it is unclear if it was a suicide bombing. 
Military officers blasted their way into a home in northern England in what they said was a search for explosives, following a series of raids linked to last week's London bombings. 
Five homes in West Yorkshire have been searched by police investigating last week's London bombings. Anti-terror officers launched the raids in the Leeds area at about 0630 BST but so far have made no arrests. The operation came as Sir Ian Blair, Met Police Commissioner, warned another attack on London was "likely". Parts of Colwyn Road and Tempest Road in the Beeston area, south of Leeds city centre, have been sealed off by police. Sir Ian confirmed the raids were part of the bombing investigation. He said: "There have been a series of searches carried out in Yorkshire. Those searches are still going on. "This activity is directly connected to the outrages on Thursday." 
EXTREMISTS living in Ireland may be plotting atrocities across Europe, the country's justice minister 
THE London bombings occurred exactly six months after an extremist cleric based in the capital declared that Islam was at war with Britain. Investigators are examining their limited records on the followers of 
The Islamist extremist group, al-Qaeda, ordered attacks on Europe in a May 29 internet message that the Spanish secret service forwarded to their British counterparts at the weekend, reported a Spanish newspaper on Monday. The Spanish national intelligence centre sent a copy of the Arabic-language message - signed by "Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades - European division" - on Saturday to the British intelligence service MI5, and it was also published on Saturday by the daily El Mundo. The message, entitled "Letter to Mujahedeen in Europe", stated in part: "We now call on the mujahedeen around the world to launch the expected attack".
Two people remain in critical condition after an explosion in the capital of the Caribbean island of Trinidad and Tobago, officials say. National Security Minister Martin Joseph said a total of 13 people had been injured in central Port of Spain. Officials say the blast just after 1400 local time (1800 GMT) was caused by an explosive device hidden in a rubbish bin a few blocks from parliament. But they say it is not clear what kind of device was used, nor who placed it. The blast occurred on the corner of Frederick and Queen streets - the capital's major crossroads. The city's business district was evacuated after the explosion and the area was combed for bombs, the police said. "We have no idea of the kind of device used nor who is behind it," Deputy Police Commissioner Glen Roach told the Associated Press news agency. Local media reported that a man was seen putting a parcel in the dustbin shortly before the explosion took place.
Law enforcement agencies in Dagestan on Wednesday said they had killed 
A small, rudimentary bomb exploded Tuesday outside the Italian Cultural Institute in Barcelona, injuring a policeman and killing a bomb-sniffing dog, the Italian Embassy said. A police official in Spain's second-largest city said the blast did not appear to be a terrorist attack. Embassy spokesman Filipo La Rosa said it was too early to say. 
The man charged with the murder of the controversial Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh has confessed to the killing at his trial in Amsterdam. 
Opposition leader Romano Prodi announced on Monday his refusal to Silvio Berlusconi's administration who is in the process of enacting laws to counter terrorism in the aftermath of London last Thursday's bombings. Prodi, who is also the President of the European Commission, stressed that enacting these new laws would alter the Italian lifestyle and threaten democracy.
Bomb threats have left European cities on edge after blasts in London that killed at least 52 people last week, with residents wondering where the next attack will hit and trying to cope with nerve-rattling false alarms. Londoners, still recovering from Thursday's bombing of three underground stations and a double-decker bus, have had to grapple with a series of threats and evacuations. On Monday, Whitehall, a street that houses many government offices, was evacuated and sealed off for over 30 minutes as police investigated a "suspect package." King's Cross station was also closed briefly due to a security alert.
A powerful car bomb has injured the outgoing Lebanese defence minister, and killed at least two other people. Police said 
The Syria-based Arab Human Rights Organization said Monday that local authorities had arrested, last Wednesday, 50 young men in the Shammas and Mukhayyam localities near the central city of Homs. "The arrests were made as local authorities were trying to round up some Jordanian students, who live in those localities near the Baath University," the organization said in a statement issued in Damascus.
Hundreds of US and Afghan troops searched yesterday for four Al-Qaeda militants who escaped from the main US military detention center in Afghanistan in what is a major embarrassment for American forces. A police officer and senior Afghan government official in Kabul had earlier said one of the escapees from Bagram Air Base had been recaptured but local Afghan authorities said this was not so.
3 terrorists killed in âcrossfireâ in Kushtia
A bomber blew himself up among a group of teens near a shopping mall in the seaside city of Netanya on Tuesday, killing himself and two others in the second such attack since a truce was declared five months ago. About 30 people were wounded, two seriously, police said. There was no immediate claim of responsibility from a Palestinian militant group. The previous bombing was carried out by Islamic Jihad, which said in a statement after Tuesday's attack that it remained committed to the cease-fire. 
US-LED forces have recaptured one of four Arab al-Qaeda militants who escaped from the main US military detention centre in Afghanistan, an Afghan police officer said today. The officer, who did not want to be identified, said he had reports that the unidentified man was captured at a mosque in Bagram village, close to the US military base that houses the prison from where the four militants escaped early on Monday.
Iran, and not Saddam Hussein, was responsible for the killing of tens of thousands of Kurds and Shi'ites, a lawyer for the deposed Iraqi dictator said in comments published on Tuesday. Issam Ghazzawi, who is part of Saddam's defence team, told the daily Die Presse that "Iran is responsible for the murders of the Kurds" killed by poison gas in 1988.
A senior Palestinian official has been seriously injured in an assault by a gang of masked gunmen. Ibrahim Salama was driving in the West Bank city of Ramallah when gunmen fired at his car to force him to stop, an interior ministry statement said. Mr Salama was severely beaten "with a sharp object" and taken to hospital. 
A Syrian-born terror suspect, reportedly sought in connection with the London bombings, is a fugitive in a Spanish case linked to September 11 and was already wanted under a $6.7 million bounty offered by the United States. 
US forces launched a manhunt for four âdangerousâ Arab Al-Qaeda militants who escaped from US detention in Afghanistan yesterday. In a fresh embarrassment for US forces reeling from their worst combat losses in Afghanistan since invading in 2001, the four were reported missing from the heavily guarded detention center at the main US base early in the morning. The escape was the first known from the detention center deep within the sprawling Bagram Air Base, about 50 km north of the capital Kabul. The US spokesman at Bagram, Lt. Col. Jerry OâHara, described the men as âdangerous enemy combatants,â but declined to identify them.
A government quartet committee released on Monday 280 Iraqi detainees who were suspected of terrorist activities. A statement by the Iraqi government said the quartet committee consists of interior ministry, human rights ministry, justice ministry and Multi-National Forces. It was founded to look into cases of Iraqi detainees. The statement further said the committee recommended to re-look into cases of 15,200 prisoners.
Meanwhile, security forces shot dead a self-styled district commander of the Pakistan based 
An Iraqi police source said in a press release that two armed men were killed as they were planting an explosive device along one of the main roads near Baquba in Diyala province. The source, who requested anonymity, said that the Iraqi security forces reached the scene shortly after the explosion and discovered in the vehicle of the perpetrators another explosive device. The city of Baquba witnessed on Saturday raid and inspection operations targeted against insurgents, especially that the security condition in the city is destabilized due to attacks against the Iraqi security forces and US forces.
A Ugandan army spokesman said soldiers had killed the chief of staff of the 
