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Security HQ and militiamen attacked in NW Iran
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Europe
Bigley's killer controls ten Dublin agents
The Iraqi-based Islamic terrorist and kidnapper Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is believed to have ten terrorists activists operating in Ireland, The Sunday Business Post can reveal.
Any of them named 'Patrick' or 'Michael'?
The Jordanian radical, who reportedly ordered the beheading of British hostage Ken Bigley last Thursday, has had a terrorist an agent in Ireland since 2002, according to transcripts of German police interviews with Osama bin Laden's former bodyguard. The testimony will be broadcast in a special edition of RTE's Prime Time on Tuesday. The Garda Siochäna, which followed up the leads from the German probe, said their enquiries established that the informant was only scratching the surface. Garda detectives identified upwards of ten al-Zarqawi terrorists activists, primarily based in Dublin. The terrorists' agents' principal activities are fundraising, organising bogus passports and identity cards, and providing safe houses. Detectives told this newspaper that one terrorist militant was allegedly linked with the ricin poison plot in England early last year. Six people were arrested in January 2003 in connection with the plot, when traces of ricin were found in a makeshift laboratory. Fingerprints that were found on material seized by police led them to Dublin.
And this fellow is still roaming free because ...
Informed sources said that the prints matched those of a terrorist man who came to the attention of the Garda Special Branch. The terrorist suspect is now on the run. Garda detectives who have seen European police reports said this weekend that al-Zarqawi's group, called al-Tawhid, now represented a bigger threat than bin Laden's organisation. Detectives said al-Tawhid terrorists activists in Dublin were believed to have moved money to Iraq by Hawala, an informal and ancient trust-based system for transferring funds. "Money is also just brought out in cash on a flight from Dublin Airport," said a garda source. Credit card skimming and cheque and welfare fraud are two of the terrorist group's other means of raising money. "We're talking millions in total [raised by various terrorist militant Islamist groups]," a garda source said.
All the standard tools of the trade.
Officers from the gardai's Middle Eastern section are believed to be learning Arabic as part of a drive to cultivate Mahmoud the Weasel informants. They currently receive assistance from the Army's G2 unit, where a number of officers speak the language. Sources close to the section are reluctant to complain about lack of resources, but said the legislation they are now working under is woefully inadequate.
Posted by: tipper || 10/11/2004 12:41:14 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Credit card skimming
http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/brief/card.htm
Posted by: dennisw || 10/11/2004 3:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Feck an erse.
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/11/2004 4:16 Comments || Top||

#3  tipper - thanks for fixing all of the misprints. If the do attack in Ireland - and I hope they don't, ...but if they do....I hope that they only attack the people responsible for informing the civilian population about the "terrorist" threat - but refuse to raise the alarm bells by calling them "activists" or "men". It's gross negligence to call entities, that purposely target and rape innocent women and children, any term that implies they are human.

Besides...when are these stupid terrorists ever going to realize that the best coverage they could ever hope to achieve would be by attacking the press itself?
Posted by: Elmoling Grinetle8816 || 10/11/2004 8:36 Comments || Top||

#4 
When the whole Moslem world is united into the new Khalifah, then credit-card skimming and cheque and welfare fraud will be its major kinds of employment.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 10/11/2004 8:54 Comments || Top||

#5  I used to go to Ireland (starting in the mid 80's) every year for my vacation - golf and theatre! Especially in October - the big flux of American tourists are gone and the Dublin Theatre festival was in swing. Play golf in the morning go watch Brian Freel plays in the evening. Plus you had Guinness less than IR#2.00 back then. When I first went there I saw maybe 1 or 2 "people of color" in Dublin - that is anyone other than light-skinned or freckled face or blushing red cheeks, etc. Last time I was there back in 2003 it was about 30% "people of color". In Ennis (Howard and Bulldog - Des Lyman is from Ennis), a market town in County Clare, they built a 7 story glass and steel condo (sort of like a poor man's St. Georges Wharf in London)ostensibly to attract the expat diaspora in America and Australia but ended up housing African, Afghan and Middle Eastern asylum seekers. And it is this way all over the island but the Irish are traditionally very LLL-Socialist-AntiWar-AntiAnythingresemblingPowerorbullying. So, now they have to deal with something that they wish wasn't there because unlike the IRA its a world problem not some sectarian thing they can keep to themselves. Lets see how this will change the politics in Ireland.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/11/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Philippine Ferry Blast Said Caused by Bomb
A bomb planted by the brutal Abu Sayyaf group caused a ferry fire in February that killed over 100 people in the Philippines' worst terrorist attack, an investigation concluded Monday. President Gloria Macapagal, who initially downplayed a claim of responsibility by the al-Qaida-linked Abu Sayyaf, said six people, including two arrested shortly after the attack, have been charged. "These are the same people responsible for the Dos Palmas kidnapping," she said, referring to a mass abduction from the Dos Palmas resort on Palawan island in 2001 that left several hostages dead. She said the men in custody made and planted the bomb, and that one beheaded Guillermo Sobero of Corona, Calif., early in the yearlong hostage crisis. Missionary Martin Burnham of Wichita, Kan. also died during a rescue mission that freed his wife, Gracia.

"I am now instructing the police and the military to intensify the manhunt for the two masterminds — Khaddafy Janjalani and Abu Sulaiman — and their two other accomplices," Arroyo told a news conference. Sulaiman was the target of an unsuccessful U.S.-backed operation two weeks ago aimed at capturing or killing him, his son and other Abu Sayyaf members. He and Janjalani, the group's main leader, already had $5 million bounties on their heads.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 10:10:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But that's not possible.

The Philippine government appeased the terrorists, so the terrorists should leave them alone, right?

Right???
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/11/2004 12:42 Comments || Top||

#2  This was in February, pre-appeasement. Or at least pre the big hostage bend over appeasement.

Front page story in Sunday's Seattle Times on how the Feds are convinced that the Wa State ferry system has been scoped out for a terror attack. Current safety procedures don't anticpate an attack. For instance, the major runs have two ferries shuttling back and forth. The presumption that one could help the other in the event of an emergency doesn't hold if both come under attack.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 10/11/2004 12:52 Comments || Top||

#3  A bomb? Really, ya think? Surely not from the ROP.
Posted by: SR71 || 10/11/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Security HQ and militiamen attacked in NW Iran
Fresh deadly clashes rocked, today, the Northwestern City of Mian-do-Ab as armed assailants made a surprise attack against the Security HQ. The action has resulted in several deaths and injured among the regime forces, including Colonel Razmjoo, and three of the attackers. Heavy damages have been made to the installation and military materials by the un-identified commando's rocket propelled grenades and assault guns. The Islamic regime's officials and its propaganda tools sized by panic are intending to portray the armed opponents as members of a religious cult, more fanatic than themselves, but residents qualify them as freedom fighters targeting the end of Mullahcracy. The official number of today's deaths have been announced as five but other reports are stating about a much higher number.

The today's attack marks a big shift in the deadly clashes which have rocked the region since September 22nd, as, it shows the gradual organization of the armed opposition and its initiative to strike the regime's military forces. Many in the region have, already, rallied the armed opposition and nightly attacks are carried against the regime forces and interests. Already several militiamen, including two regional commanders, were killed in last month's clashes despite the massive use of the Pasdaran Force's Attack helicopters against the rebels and villagers of the nearby "Seh-Tapeh".
Posted by: tipper || 10/11/2004 00:47 || Comments || Link || [20 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Colonel Razmjoo is dead! Quick Mustafa grab his watch, cellphone and wallet.

One can hope this stuff is true and starts picking up. A popular uprising would be a good thing.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/11/2004 5:30 Comments || Top||

#2  the free Iran activist site

http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4183

doesn't have anything on this as of this am
Posted by: mhw || 10/11/2004 8:40 Comments || Top||

#3  September 22. Heh! I'd like it if the Iranian popular uprising began on 9-22.
Posted by: 2b || 10/11/2004 8:46 Comments || Top||

#4  "..They got Colonel Razmjoo..the bastards !!!"

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/11/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#5  Is it okay to make fun of his name? I mean, well, I wouldn't want to be the one to stem the tide of Muslims flooding to the side of reason and freedom - cuz they were turned off by a snarky comment.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||

#6  It would be wrong to make fun.
Posted by: Abu Hatfield || 10/11/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#7  I, for one, find name-mocking distasteful......but fun
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#8  Are we sure it was anti-government forces that killed Razmjoo? I mean, it's possible some of his co-workers got confused, only saw the last few letters of his name, and decided to "go jihad".
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/11/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#9  Okay, RC - you're skating on thin ice as that comes mighty close to making fun...
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#10  members of a religious cult, more fanatic than themselves...

Is this possible? Of course from the perspctive of a Kufir a few degrees of difference is almost indistinguishable.

BTW, while I too hope for an Iran that is not a thinly disguised theocracy and is actualy a pleasant place for the inmates, somehow I suspect our hopes will be disapointed when or if the Revolution comes.
My money is that any sucessor regime will almost have to be as anti-american as the current one just to defeat the charge of being "Zionist puppets". The rot from the anti-semitic and anti-american moonbats has gone on too long, too far, and and soaked in too deep for anyting short of cultural devastation to undo.
Posted by: N Guard || 10/11/2004 13:58 Comments || Top||

#11  Monjur Farklstaini PFC from the department of cultural devastation reporting for duty Sir!
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom (at home) || 10/11/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#12  10 Is this possible?

yes - and it's not at all clear they would be our friends. I don't know if they have these guys in mind or not. But if they're too secular to fit the bill, how about these guys instead - remember, they're Sunni fanatics who look down on the Shia, including Iran. Or maybe it's these guys instead. Or maybe Jund al Islam? Or ....

Alas.

Posted by: rkb || 10/11/2004 20:31 Comments || Top||

#13  Hey! This was a really fun thread until you guys started getting all serious and stuff. So I'm going to close my eyes for a while and believe really, really hard that there are only good guys, 'K? 'Cause if I believe hard enough, it just has to be true!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2004 22:13 Comments || Top||

#14  Looks like a border dispute between South Azeristan and West Kurdistan.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/11/2004 23:23 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Follow-up on the Hit Mosque Hit
U.S. marines engaged in heavy clashes with scores of insurgents near a mosque in western Iraq on Monday, leading to U.S. air strikes which damaged the shrine and left it ablaze, the U.S. military said...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/11/2004 9:34:56 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hit was Hit and that's a hit for our fine Marines... The mosque is burning? Fancy that!

The only question is the final virgins provided count...

Go Marines
Posted by: BigEd || 10/11/2004 22:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Git some!
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 10/11/2004 22:58 Comments || Top||


One Less Mosque In Iraq
According to debka: "Mosque in Hit, W. Iraqi, set on fire by US warplanes ending fierce firefight that erupted after US marines were attacked by insurgents barricaded in mosque. Hit is on Euphrates route to Syria."
Geographical reference: Hit is about 30-35 miles northwest of ar-Ramadi on the Euphrates river.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/11/2004 6:00:02 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How many Hits does Mosque Hit get, before Mosque Hit gets lit by hits?
Posted by: Atropanthe || 10/11/2004 19:18 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd say it was a damn good day for the Marines. One less mosque to spew out venom and poison.

MOSQUE = good day's work!
Posted by: A. Bungfodder || 10/11/2004 19:33 Comments || Top||

#3  I hope Allan (posbuh) is stocking up on de virgins. Btter start hiring now, gonna get hairy for him post-elections in November.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 10/11/2004 19:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Better hustle, jihadis. Get it on the "Holiest Places in Islam" list before the fires go out.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/11/2004 20:20 Comments || Top||

#5  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Theans Thitch7229 TROLL || 10/11/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Now we get to gloat not only at the Mosque but some one whose parents detested them so much at birth they named it Theans Thitch. Bwahahahaha.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/11/2004 20:56 Comments || Top||

#7  Oh-oh! It's the BIG PRINT!
Everybody DOWN!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/11/2004 21:02 Comments || Top||

#8  Gloating... that rhymes with goating. I here tell goats are better than virgins in some jihadi circles. Something like virgins are for beating and goats are for good lubbin or sumthin like that.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 10/11/2004 21:07 Comments || Top||

#9  Clean up isle 2.
"Boris" go abuse yourself and quit wreckng the formatting on purpose.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/11/2004 21:10 Comments || Top||

#10  "Excellent."

-- C. Montgomery Burns
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/11/2004 21:27 Comments || Top||

#11  No, actually when it's full of bearded crazies firing weapons at marines, it can technically be considered a "crater".
Posted by: mojo || 10/11/2004 21:42 Comments || Top||

#12  one down - start to show that they aren't a sanctuary and you may not need to take out more.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2004 22:26 Comments || Top||

#13 

Mosques are places of worship, no gloating allowed!
Posted by: Theans Thitch7229 || 10/11/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Two Men Questioned in Pakistan Bombing
Police said Monday they were questioning two men in connection with a suicide attack at a Shiite mosque in eastern Pakistan that killed three people plus the bomber — the latest violence in what appears to be rising strife between Shiite and Sunni Muslims. Two security guards died in the attack Sunday while confronting the bomber and preventing far more deaths by blocking his entrance into Husainia Hall mosque in Lahore during evening prayers. The bomber and a passerby also were killed and eight were wounded, Punjab province Law Minister Raja Basharat Illahi said. Seventy to 80 people were in the mosque for prayers when a man carrying a briefcase tried to enter but was blocked by the guards, officials said. A bomb in the briefcase exploded after a scuffle, during which one of the guards opened fire. Two men were picked up in the neighborhood where the mosque is located shortly after the bombing, a senior police official in Lahore said on condition of anonymity. The men — who have not been formally arrested — looked suspicious and tried to run away when police confronted them, he said. Their identities were not given.

The bombing in Lahore came the same day that thousands of people mourned two Sunni Muslim clerics who were gunned down in the southern city of Karachi a day earlier. The bomb attack was the third this month against a religious target in Punjab in apparent sectarian violence between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 10:08:18 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I see heart attacks in their near future
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2004 13:12 Comments || Top||

#2  But Frank, that ... that .. that wouldn't pass a ... global test!
Posted by: Steve White || 10/11/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Paki police: "think globally, torture locally"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#4  What? No pliers? How 14th century.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom (at home) || 10/11/2004 15:54 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Booby-Trapped Car Explodes in Mosul
A car bomb exploded Monday in western Mosul as an American military convoy was passing by, witnesses said. First reports indicated it may have been a suicide attack. Witnesses said U.S. forces cordoned off the area soon after the attack. It was unclear if there were U.S. casualties. Car bombs have been used with increasing frequency by insurgents battling American forces and their Iraqi allies.
Wonder if the boomer was a newlywed?
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 10:06:17 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: North
Egyptian Military Seals Off Bombed Hotel
With Israeli rescue workers gone, the Egyptian military sealed off a bombed luxury hotel Monday to clear more debris and collect evidence for investigators tracing the explosives and vehicles used in deadly attacks that targeted Israeli tourists. Egyptian security officials said Sunday that a Bedouin tribesman has confessed to selling explosives that might have been used in the three Sinai resort car bombings that killed at least 34 people. They said investigators also were looking into Palestinian militant involvement.

The deadliest of the three attacks was at the Taba Hilton, where the front rooms on a 10-story wing of the hotel were sheared off. David Michels, chief executive officer of Hilton Group PLC, visited the scene over the weekend, meeting with Egyptian officials and Hilton employees. Hilton said staff had been paid two months' salary while the damage is assessed. "The investigation is now in the hands of the authorities," Michels said in a statement Monday. "Our role is to support the local authorities to the best of our ability."

Three car bombs, each packed with 440 pounds of explosives, exploded Thursday night, one at the Taba Hilton just south of the Egypt-Israel border and two at Ras Shitan, a town of beach bungalows 35 miles south on the Red Sea. Egypt's Interior Ministry put the death toll at 34, including 11 Israelis, eight Egyptians, one Russian, two Italians and 12 victims whose identities and nationalities remained unconfirmed. The dead also were believed to include eastern Europeans.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 10:03:01 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Leave it to the Egyptians to find a beduin scapegoat. It's a wonder they didn't find a couple of Copts as well.
Posted by: Tancred || 10/11/2004 15:08 Comments || Top||

#2  As I recall, there are no Copts in Sinai.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 10/11/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||

#3  "...there are no Copts in Sinai."

Well, could they have been carried there, by swallows or something?
Posted by: jackal || 10/11/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#4  African sparrows or European?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2004 21:18 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Shiite Fighters Turning in Weapons in Iraq
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 10:01:19 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Video Aired Showing Turkish Hostage
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 10:00:30 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Weapons Hand-Over to Begin in Iraq
A five-day grace period for militia loyal to rebel cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in Sadr City to hand over medium and heavy weapons starts Monday. In return for the weapons handover, the interim government said, there will be amnesty arrangements for some militia members and the possibility of a political role for al-Sadr. The weapons surrender will allow Iraqi security forces, backed by U.S. forces, to take control of the area where attacks on U.S. and Iraqi soldiers have been going on for weeks.
Wonder how many serviceable weapons will be turned in?
Posted by: Steve White || 10/11/2004 12:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wonder how many servicable weapons will NOT be turned in?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/11/2004 0:49 Comments || Top||

#2  If Tatter is true to his word, then weapons will not be an issue. But if he is bullshiting "us" again....then the weapons issue could get ugly.
But he has got to be thinking about how an F-16 ot F-15 can land a bomb within inches of his hommies hang out and be wondering how close are they (USA Military) from taking him out.

For some reason we allow this puke to remain alive. There must be a reason.
Posted by: Long Hair Republican || 10/11/2004 0:50 Comments || Top||

#3  A living failure is much less of a threat than a dead martyr.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/11/2004 7:43 Comments || Top||

#4  The question isn't how many weapons will be turned in, it's how many "militiamen" will come forward, instead of sending children, to turn the weapons in. I bet we have camera's ready to snapshot every person who comes through the door.
Posted by: Charles || 10/11/2004 7:59 Comments || Top||

#5  agree Mrs. D! I wish I better understood what the logic is. I think it's a good idea to have his militia go to the polls, rather than use their guns - but it is a risky proposition that could lead to problems for decades to come. I wonder who he will be siphoning off his votes from?
Posted by: 2b || 10/11/2004 9:03 Comments || Top||

#6  ..What I'd love to see somebody do is require that the FIGHTERS turn in their weapons - they won't be held, but we WILL take their pics and fingerprint them.
Go in peace, sin no more, and if we catch you again, it's an automatic death sentence.
Have a nice day.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/11/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#7  They're being compensated (with ca$h) for what they turn in. Fox reported earlier this AM that one guy was paid over $14K USD - he turned in a shitload of RPG and artillery rounds. I don't know whether to laugh, cry, get drunk, or what. Bizarro World rides again.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||

#8  What's next? Midnight basketball?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/11/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#9  "Jeez, lookt ththis crap would ya? I didn't know there were that many antiques in Iraq. Is that a Jezail?..."
Posted by: mojo || 10/11/2004 18:01 Comments || Top||

#10  tu3031. That is funny. LOL. My dog is LOL next to me.
Posted by: A. Bungfodder || 10/11/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Actually the Arty ammo is a very big item - no matter how old the shells are, they can still be made into an IED and go boom.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/11/2004 23:26 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Egypt hotel bombers 'aided by woman suicide backpacker'
A female suicide bomber is believed to have taken part in the terrorist attack on the Red Sea hotel in which at least 31 people died, Israeli and Egyptian military officials said last night. The woman, whose decapitated body was found at the back of the hotel, is thought to have been acting with two other suspected terrorists who rammed explosive-laden cars into the front of the Hilton hotel in the Sinai resort of Taba on Thursday night. Gilad Shemesh, an Israeli army officer at the scene, told The Sunday Telegraph: "Our soldiers were shown a body by the Egyptians. It was a woman. Her head had been blown off. They said they were convinced she was a suicide bomber who had probably carried the explosives in a backpack."

An Israeli army captain with almost 20 years' experience of dealing with terrorist attacks pointed to the spot near the hotel's pool where the woman's body was found, along with several victims. "It is impossible that those victims could have been killed by the two car-bomb blasts at the front of the hotel," he said. "It is clear to me that it was a suicide bomber - but the Egyptians don't want to talk about it officially." Israeli and Egyptian officials are investigating who was behind the attack and a simultaneous strike on the Moon Island Village campsite at Ras a Satan, 30 miles to the south, which killed two Israeli tourists in their 20s. On Friday, Maj Gen Aharon Ze'evi, Israel's military intelligence director, said al-Qaeda was the likely perpetrator. However, the terrorist organisation is not known to use women in its suicide operations. Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas, have recently started using female suicide bombers.
The Chechens have been using them for awhile, too. If she was a Hamas thugette, that'll be grounds for grinding Hamas even more than the Israelis are now. If she's a Chechen, it pretty well confirms Putin's assertions that they're involved with al-Qaeda. And if she's from Arabia, that's a fresh can of worms.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 10:47:37 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Uneter Snavins5298 TROLL || 10/11/2004 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  "Adventure suicide backpacking," the newest National Geographic sponsored pimpin' adventure sport to hit the Middle East.
Posted by: Asedwich || 10/11/2004 1:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Lying in wait for those who fled the carnage at the front of the hotel. All a coldy calculated slaughter of random people on holiday. This is justifiable, according to Clare Short. The enemy is indeed everywhere: 'out there' and walking amongst us.
Posted by: Bulldog || 10/11/2004 6:54 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't think Al Qaeda would use women suicide bombers. But since their leaders seem to be somewhat detached from the group these days, it's possible that whoever is in charge now is willing to do that.

It could be that it shows cooperation between Al Qaeda and Hamas or the Chechen rebels. Or it could mean lots of things I suppose. But it is interesting if a woman was used and AQ was involved.
Posted by: 2b || 10/11/2004 8:43 Comments || Top||

#5  If she was a Hamas thugette, that'll be grounds for grinding Hamas even more than the Israelis are now.

If it was someone indeed involved with Hamas, I would hope that this incident would put the brakes on GWB's "the Palestinians ought to have their own state" crap.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/11/2004 14:50 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't think Bush is going to stop saying it, to be honest. Statehood is the carrot to offset the big Israeli stick that the Palestinians keep choosing to be beaten with. And anyway, Israel doesn't want to be responsible for the Palestinians; they are a $$$ black hole.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2004 21:21 Comments || Top||

#7 

Such hate does not belong in the US of A.
Posted by: Uneter Snavins5298 || 10/11/2004 0:17 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Kidnappers of Chinese engineers demand foreign militants' release
Militant Abdullah Mehsud on Sunday claimed responsibility for the kidnapping of two Chinese engineers and he threatened to kill them if the government did not release the militants arrested by security forces. "My warriors have kidnapped the two Chinese engineers," Abdullah Mehsud told Daily Times on the phone from an undisclosed location near Jandola, 65 kilometres east of Wana. He, however, warned security forces against attempting to rescue the hostages, saying it would bring harm to them. "The kidnappers have demanded the release of all foreign militants in government custody," said an intelligence official who asked not to be named. He said the captors had given the government only a day to fulfil their demand.

Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao said the kidnappers had not yet given a list indicating who they wanted released. "We will decide when we are given the list," he told a private TV channel on Sunday. The minister suspected Al Qaeda's hand in the kidnapping. NWFP Home Secretary Abdul Karim Qasuriya said a Mehsud jirga led by MMA MNA Maulana Mirajuddin was negotiating with the kidnappers. "The jirga expects a peaceful resolution to the crisis," the home secretary said. But FATA security chief Brig (r) Mehmood Shah admitted that the talks had not yielded positive results. "There is no change in the situation," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2004 11:26:42 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I do not want to be bloodthirsty, but I would take a baker's dozen of these so-called militants and release them on the business end of a pike. Then I would say that the kidnappers have 24 hours to safely release the two chinese hostages. If they are not released, 13 militants a day will head for Pike Avenue. The kidnappers know that they will bring down hell and fury upon themselves when they pull these minor league stunts.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/11/2004 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  well said, al-aqsa
Posted by: Anon1 || 10/11/2004 10:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Anon1---Congradulations on Mr. Howard's victory down under. We are pleased and relieved on the outcome.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/11/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Not to put too fine a point on it, but

"Plenty more where they came from."
Posted by: mojo || 10/11/2004 22:31 Comments || Top||


Captors free Chinese engineers, hand over to tribal elders
Two Chinese engineers, who were working at the Dam project in South Waziristan Agency tribal agency and were kidnapped early Saturday, have been freed and handed over to tribal elders, a senior official said on Sunday. Deputy Inspector General Police Habib ur Rehman said the freed engineers will soon be handed over to the authorities by the tribal elders. Chinese embassy sources have also confirmed the release but the tribal elders have not yet handed over the Chinese engineers to the authorities. The Chinese engineers were kidnapped along with a security guard and a co-worker, when they were on their way to the Gomal Dam project site from their residential complex. The security forces had chased the captors after they were kidnapped, according to Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao.

Sources said the authorities had asked Muttahdia Majlis-e-Amal MNA Maulana Mirajuddin to negotiate the release of the Chinese workers. Brig (r) Mehmood Shah, FATA security chief, said that the two foreigners and one Pushto-speaking tribesman were involved in the kidnapping. The kidnappers had made no demand for the release of the hostages. President Pervez Musharraf had taken serious note of the kidnapping of the two Chinese engineers and directed the authorities to ensure their early release. President Musharrf talked to the NWFP governor on the phone and said that the incident was an attempt to damage Pakistan-China friendship. China had also urged Pakistan to do all it could to rescue the two kidnapped Chinese engineers and called for Islamabad to beef up security for their co-workers in the country. Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan said in a statement the two engineers working on the Gomal Zam Dam project had been kidnapped on Saturday morning by unidentified "bandits" and had not yet been rescued. China urged Pakistan to "immediately adopt effective measures to find the whereabouts of the Chinese workers and spare no effort in their rescue," Kong said.
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