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I don't drink beer, but I have to admit Oktoberfest was fun.
I heard the Loewenbrau lion in the background on a news report one year and got nostalgic. (He nods his head, pats his stomach, and says "Luuuuurrrvvvenbroi" (phonetic) in a deep voice. You could hear him all over the Munich Fest grounds.)
Those were the days.
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They're dangerous! Oktoberfests are dangerous!
My very first one, I managed to fall down the stairs when I came back to the hotel. On my back. Head first. Concrete stairs.
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My company (based in Mass) always has a European customers "technical seminar" in Germany at this time - strictly coincidental, I'm sure. My group is always well represented there. Unfortunately, my job is not "customer-facing," so I'm never invited :-(
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That's your own damn fault, Fred. You should have continued drinking instead of going back to the hotel. :-p
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TGA - if you read this thread, is the Loewenbrau lion still above the Loewenbrau tent in Munich? I thought I read somewhere that it wasn't. That breaks my heart; I loved that lion. :-p
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Sorry I forgot about the umlaut in "braeu." But how did you make an actual umlaut show up in print in an English-based blog? I'd love to master that one.
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Barbara, on a German keyboard you can type them right in.
On an Enlish keyboard use
ä = Alt + 132
ö = Alt + 148
ü = Alt + 129
à = Alt + 142
à = Alt + 153
à = Alt + 154
à = Alt + 222
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Here's a link which has all of the various character tables, and a lot more, just FYI. Note that on the bottom-left is where the table choices are offered - and I've selected the URL-Encode Reference table, so it's bold-faced.
The menu offers most everything - and the handy text box allows you to try things out - so you can be sure beforehand.
Märzbier for Fasching, Weissen for summer (My wife and I call it "Germon Limonade"), Festbier for the early fall, and whatever the local brewery makes the rest of the year round (plus sneaking in Pils if you are over toward Prague). Bayern is my second home... well the only place other than the US that I felt at home - and I felt more at home in München, Augsburg, Nürnberg and Weiden than I did Boston Mass.
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Cincinnati,Ohio has the second biggest Oktoberfest celebration after Munich -- held this weekend. But naturally done Cincinnati style ...instead of drinking yourself silly, you can eat yourself sick. But there is lots of Lowenbrau for Barbara, and the only other genuine Hofbrahous opened last year across the river on the Kentucky side. There are lots of strong-armed girls there to carry the Mass-es, and plenty of Bavarian descendents in real dirndls and lederhosen.
DRUDGE of course
In a week that has already included news about the arrests of former child stars Tracey Gold and Edward Furlong, comes word from Oklahoma that Macaulay Culkin was popped this afternoon on drug charges. The 24-year-old actor, best known for starring in the "Home Alone" movies, was nabbed for possession of marijuana and a "controlled dangerous substance" for which he did not have a prescription. A bleary-eyed Culkin is pictured below in an Oklahoma County Sheriff's Office mug shot. Arrested following a traffic stop, Culkin was jailed on $4,000 bond. Tommy Chong was not available for comment.
Check the picture: "duh, dude!"
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This kid needs a lot of help...oy, what a mug shot! lolol
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See what happens when you leave them Home Alone?
Brian O'Connor, a Christian guest worker from India, was produced before an Islamic court in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on September 15, nearly six months after he was arrested, tortured and jailed for allegedly "spreading Christianity" in the strict Islamic kingdom. O'Connor's hearing occurred just hours before U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell named Saudi Arabia as one of eight "countries of particular concern" for its "gross infringements of religious freedom." The U.S. State Department's annual religious freedom report on Saudi Arabia noted that "non-Muslim worshippers risk arrest, imprisonment, lashing, deportation and sometimes torture."
... like O'Connor...
During his 90-minute hearing, O'Connor was informed for the first time of the legal charges against him, which include possession of alcohol, possession of pornographic movies and preaching Christianity. It was not clear whether any evidence was produced to support the possession charges. O'Connor himself has acknowledged that he led Bible studies for expatriate Christians in his home.
So he's both a Christian and an alk runner? That'll get him beheaded.
Gunmen killed a Venezuelan oil engineer and six soldiers near the border with Colombia in an attack that officials suspected was carried out by Colombian rebels. The engineer, a 23-year-old woman working with the state-run oil company, and the soldiers were killed Friday afternnon as troops escorted a group of nine civilians near one of the rivers that form the boundary between Venezuela and Colombia, said Venezuelan Defense Minister Jorge Garcia Carneiro. Another civilian and soldier were wounded in the attack near La Victoria, a town 430 miles southwest of Caracas. Garcia Carneiro said Friday night that authorities have not yet identified which armed group was behind the killings and how many people participated in the attack. But Colombian rebels were suspected, he said. Defense on the border was being reinforced after the incident with 60 more troops, three helicopters and two F-16 fighter jets. Venezuela's 1,400-mile border with Colombia is often plagued with violence stemming from Colombia's four-decade civil war between leftist rebels, government troops and outlawed right-wing paramilitary groups. Both countries have accused each other of not doing enough to guard the border, which runs through steep mountains and thick, tropical jungle.
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Former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar on Friday called for the release of dozens of inmates in Cuba, charging they're political prisoners held "simply because they have a different opinion from the official line." He spoke at a meeting of the International Committee for Democracy in Cuba, which is examining ways to support resistance to Fidel Castro's regime. Participants highlighted the case of Raul Rivero, a dissident journalist and author who was arrested in March 2003 along with 74 others in a crackdown on the opposition. "There's nothing to justify that people like Raul Rivero should be imprisoned just because they wrote a critical poem against a dictator," Aznar said.
They were sentenced to prison terms ranging from six to 28 years on charges of working with the U.S. government to undermine Cuba's political system. Rivero received a 20-year term. Both he and Washington have denied the charges. The Cuban government has justified the crackdown, saying it has the right to defend the nation from foreign attempts to change its socialist system. The committee was founded a year ago by former Czech President Vaclav Havel, who was a leading dissident during his own country's communist times. The communist regime in Czechoslovakia, which later split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia, fell in 1989. "I think that the situation in Cuba will change quite soon," Havel told the conference, adding that he hoped it will happen peacefully.
Good for Aznar and Havel.
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Ahha! They're having internal affairs! No wonder they don't want to punish adultery!
I gather that the EU is against punishing adultery too. What does that say about their morals? And what about ours? Anybody here remember the Ten Commandments?
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Tom - the EU views the Ten Commandments as the Ten Suggestions If It's Not Too Inconvenient.
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Please stop spamming with your "politicsandcurrentevents.com". Links only if they are relevant to the topic at hand, not because you want to advertise a site.
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Please stop spamming with your "politicsandcurrentevents.com". Links only if they are relevant to the topic at hand, not because you want to advertise a site.
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Most of the radical right votes are a "shove it" vote for Schröder. The radical right parties occasionally get elected into regional parliaments where they regularily implode and vanish because they are just incompetent fools.
As long as the radical right can't find a charismatic leader they are just a nuisance.
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"...The possibility of far-right success has sparked worries by Jewish leaders and even Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, who expressed concern last week about a possible threat to Germany's international reputation....
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"...The possibility of far-right success has sparked worries by Jewish leaders and even Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, who expressed concern last week about a possible threat to Germany's international reputation....
Turkey's parliament adjourned Saturday without passing a package of human-rights reforms that is key to its bid to join the European Union but that stalled in a bitter dispute over a provision making adultery a crime.
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More than 100,000 German filmgoers flocked to see a controversial big-budget movie about Adolf Hitler on its opening night on Thursday. For many, it reminds them of the 'good old days".
The Downfall, shown on 400 screens, stars Swiss actor Bruno Ganz as the Nazi leader and sparked debate about portraying Hitler with a human side. Ex-German Chancellor Helmut Kohl has hailed it as a way for young people to be reminded of the horror of Hitler.
The £9m film's makers said they were happy young and old had gone to watch. Critics were divided over the film, which details the end of the Third Reich leading up to Hitler's suicide in his bunker on 30 April 1945. German historian Hans Mommsen said: "Reducing history to stories about people is not suitable for gaining an understanding of the greater historical process." But British historian and Hitler biographer Ian Kershaw said: "Of all the portrayals of Hitler, this is the first which I found convincing." The film will be shown throughout continental Europe and in Japan. Producers are also hoping to distribute it in North America and Britain.
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Springtime for Hitler!
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With Eggnog, such a warm and fuzzy feeling, this movie will bring!
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The Downfall, shown on 400 screens, stars Swiss actor Bruno Ganz as the Nazi leader and sparked debate about portraying Hitler with a human side.
I wasn't aware that it was possible to portray Hitler as having a "human side." What's more, if this movie downplays or does not even mention the death camps, it is nothing but a puff piece for neo-Nazis and may need to be banned. Hitler should at all times be directly connected with the very worst notions of man's inhumanity to man. Anything less is morally irresponsible. Something tells me this film won't be opening in Israel anytime soon.
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I have allready seen this movie , and I can assure you that eventhough it claims to portray his "human" side, it is done in such a way that no one in theyre right mind walks away feeling anything but :"Wow, this dude was one sick Motherf***ker", it mostly concerns the last days in the bunker and from what I can gather from the history-books and documentaries gives a accurat description of the madness and despair that must have been rampant there at the time.
With all due respect Zenster, this movie is no puff piece for the Neo-Nazis, I came away deeply impressed and can certainly reccomend viewing it to all Rantburgers.
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Not having seen the film, let me suggest finding an incredible book from the late 70s called The Bunker by James O'Donnell - it is a minute by minute reconstruction of the last week in Berlin, and it sounds very much like Heisenberg's description: On the one hand you have "Uncle Fuhrer" (a term that the Goebbels children used) who was a genuine softy when it came to his inner circle - and then you have Der Fuhrer giving the orders to kill millions of people and burn his country to the ground because "they were not worthy of his genius." The book is VERY heavily researched and documented (O'Donnell was in fact sued by a former Hitler secretary because he got a bit too close to solving a long-time mystery involving some diamonds that disappeared during the breakout) and O'Donnell manages to give you a real 'you are there' feeling. If you can't see the movie, read this.
Mike
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With all due respect Zenster, this movie is no puff piece for the Neo-Nazis
Thank you for taking the time to make this clear. Germany's ongoing and unhealthy fascination with Nazism (however much not in the majority) still causes this to be a matter for concern.
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Funny how mass killings can be misconstrued in any other way than what they are: mass killings.
Thank you, nada. That is how I'm still inclined to feel about this. It would seem as though I'm not the only one. There are considerable questions about this film in Germany as well. I continue to find it dubious in the extreme that Hitler should be shown against anything but a backdrop of the death camps. No matter how palsied, drug addled or psychotic he is depicted as being, the Holocaust should always be hung right 'round Hitler's neck like the historical albatross it is and forever shall be. The millions of innocents who paid for Hitler's pathological lunacy with their very lifeblood deserve no less.
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I have seen this movie in a pre-screening that was arranged for witnesses of that time. While it's certainly not perfect I had no objections. Yes you could have had more cuts to show what happened in the camps in those last days of Hitler... and other things.
But anyone with "cosy" feelings about the Nazi time will hate this movie. I think the expression "with a human side" is misleading. The movie makes no attempt of showing a Hitler at least his mother could love. Hitler is shown doing mundane things (padding his dog or the children of Magda Goebbels, having some nice words for his secretary, eating spaghetti as his last meal), but these "human" moments only make the character more hateful, when after a "human" moment he erupts in hateful antisemitic diatribes, signs death penalties for "traitors" etc.
What this movie does (and it does so rather well): It de-demonizes Hitler, whom most Germans only know as that yelling, screaming speaker to the masses (in black and white). The movie does a close up, which is historically as accurate as can be, and the depressing claustrophobic atmosphere in that bunker is overwhelming.
Bruno Ganz had a discussion with us, telling us how difficult it was to play Hitler and that he nearly walked out in the midle of the shooting because it was getting too much for him. He said he had to force himself to feel pity for the character he played, at least for a few seconds, or he would have vomited. Bernd Eichinger, the director (remember "Das Boot") also had a few compelling things to say about how difficult it was to do the movie.
Germans have seen a galore of documentations about Hitler... this movie is different. I would not mind it being shown in schools... with competent guidance and discussions.
The Hitler we see here is "real" and "authentic", and the movie opens up new discussions, new readings, new interpretations. None of those will put the biggest criminal of mankind in a better light.. just in a light more blinding than ever.
This is not the movie to understand the full horrors of the Third Reich though. No movie could do those justice.
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Have they aired The Hamburg Cell in Germany yet, TGA? Sounds like the same sort of approach. I'm all for humanizing such people. Anything else (the 'they're not human' response) is more dangerous than admitting that cruelty, on whatever scale, is far from inhuman; it is human. Which is why we must always confront it when we see it, and recognise it for what it is, with moral clarity.
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TGA, thank you for a truly "first-hand" assessment.
This is not the movie to understand the full horrors of the Third Reich though.
Perhaps it's just me, but I think we need a lot more movies which can do just that. I find it almost farcical how so many of today's shoe-sized IQ skinheads would have been among the first to be shipped off to the death camps. That Hitler continues to be an object of so much fascination and, more importantly, that the Holocaust continues to be denied makes it all the more vital that significant efforts be made at documenting this resounding horror.
Those within the Arab world and all others who extoll Hitler's genocide must be made to understand the monstrous taint and onus of permanent guilt that accompanies such monumental slaughter. Darfur is a solid demonstration of how shallow an impression has been made upon the Arab world towards that end.
On a different note, are you going to be an "observer" of our presidential election? If so, I suggest you try to get someone honest to observe the shenanigans that go on in Chicago (voting the dead, etc.).
I can hook you up with an insightful blogger if it's you who ends up in Chicago. :-p
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Barbara, with Mr Hastings in charge, not likely.
But if you get an opportunity to come to the States, you can be sure you'd never have to buy drinks! :-p
Hell, if you get to Richmond, I'll be glad to put you up myself so you won't have to waste money on a hotel.
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Barbara, thank you so much for the invitation!
Actually think Bush will win rather easily come November. Not a landslide, but I think we won't get a cliffhanger, so all that observation nonsense won't amount to much.
And I really don't need the OECD for a free U.S. trip.
Parallels Drawn Between CBS Memos, Texan's Postings
By Michael Dobbs
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Saturday, September 18, 2004; Page A02
The former Texas National Guard officer suspected of providing CBS News with possibly forged records on President Bush's military service called on Democratic activists to wage "war" against Republican "dirty tricks" in a series of Internet postings in which he also used phrases similar to several employed in the disputed documents.
Retired Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, who earlier said he overheard Bush aides conspiring with the commander of the Texas National Guard to "sanitize" the president's military records, has refused to comment on reports that he could be CBS's confidential source. In e-mails yesterday to The Washington Post, he said he would speak out "at the appropriate time" but "that time is not now." Hey a-hole, when is the proper time? With your slimeball attorney, VanOs, in front of a Federal Judge answering an indictment regarding forgery and Federal Documents?
In an Aug. 21 posting, Burkett referred to a conversation with former senator Max Cleland (D-Ga.) about the need to counteract Republican tactics: "I asked if they wanted to counterattack or ride this to ground and outlast it, not spending any money. He said counterattack. So I gave them the information to do it with. But none of them have called me back."
Cleland confirmed that he had a two- or three-minute conversation by cell phone with a Texan named Burkett in mid-August while he was on a car ride. He remembers Burkett saying that he had "valuable" information about Bush, and asking what he should with it. "I told him to contact the [Kerry] campaign," Cleland said. "You get this information tens of times a day, and you don't know if it is legit or not." As I said elsewhere Cleland is up to his butt in this. He must be blaming Bush for his accident. Calling Bush evil & all. Is he stupid or deranged?
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As I said on my 'blog earlier tonight, I don't think Burkett was the forger. I think the forger is probably someone who grew up after typewriters and printers with only monospaced fonts became rare. I think Burkett and Cleland are both old enough to remember the world of monospaced text.
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I was hoping Dan would be lifted off the roof of the CBS building in a helicopter, just ahead of the mob.
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Steve - I was hoping the mob would be quicker than the helicopter. :-p
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Whatcha wanna bet he is going down to see if they can get Burkett to take the fall?
Can't give up the DNC or the Kerry campaign ya know!
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Just speculation, but if Viacom were getting ready to give Dan the FYBYOYO handshake the first thing they would want to do is get him out of New York.
(FYBYOYO = Fuck You Buddy You're On Your Own)
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Political history books lack the proper vocabulary adequate to describe the horrors that are about to befall the senator. Only the Book of Revelation can properly do that. It isn't even that this is going to be a massive landslide for President Bush, it won't be. I'm guessing that the final tally in the popular vote will be Bush, 52%; Kerry, 46%; Nader 2%.
The true, and quite probably final, humiliation of John Forbes Kerry is that this race should have been a cakewalk for him. As I never tire of saying, this is the most politically vulnerable president since Carter. And George Bush isn't just vulnerable on Iraq, he's venerable on virtually everything.
The most amazing thing about the Kerry candidacy, is that it was born of an air of "electability."
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This election's meme: "This election will be the last chance America has to vote in a referendum over the Vietnam War: Were our soldiers baby-killing, drug-crazed war criminals; or were they honorable men fighting for a just cause, who were betrayed by a fifth column of radical leftists who spread lies to undermine the war effort?"
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No. I think Bush was less vulnerable than you think. The problem is positionoing. There are a lot of people unhappy now (and a lot want to blame Bush and the neocons and not the Global Jihad), but but there's little room for anyone looking to capitalize on that. On the economy, no one could survive by campaigning to roll back the tax cuts. On the war, no one could survive running on defeatism. The only room to run was to the right of Bush on those issues but the Dems are physically incapable of that at this point. The Howard Dean wing is much more powerful than the Lieberman wing.
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The Howard Dean wing is much more powerful than the Lieberman wing.
and the Hillary Clinton wing will become ascendant - after they jettison the disgusting Terry McAuliffe. Then we hear about how much she loves the troops. Feh!
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. . .and that he had served as a source for information in the Michael Moore film, "Fahrenheit 911.
Birds of a feather.
But if Jabba is part of this conspiracy, he'd be arrested. Then all hell breaks loose. They wil need to sew a special gargantuan orange jumpsuit, and his ACLU lawyer will demand a double sized cell so he can turn around, and use the toilet.
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"My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam. I don't own one of those now, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle."
Sen. Kerry, what's your favorite food? "Oh, I must say it's the Vietnamese Chicken Curry. It reminds me of my time in Vietnam."
Sen. Kerry, what's your favorite musical? "Oh, I must say it's 'Miss Saigon.' Reminds me of when I was in Vietnam."
Sen. Kerry, what's your favorite movie? "Gee, that's a hard one. There are so many of them out there. 'Apocolypse Now' is a great one, but 'Redux' is even longer. 'Born on the 4th of July' also brings back memories of my return from the Vietnam war.' Both very powerful movies that remind of my service in and out of Vietnam."
Thank you, Sen. Kerry. Did you say you were in Vietnam?
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Sen. Kerry, what's your favorite musical? "Oh, I must say it's 'Miss Saigon.' Reminds me of when I was in Vietnam."
Funny.His medical records show he had a urinary infection.
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BAIRD, Tex., Sept. 17 - Bill Burkett, the former Texas National Guard officer who has been caught up in the mystery of how CBS News acquired memos that seem to question President Bush's Vietnam-era National Guard service, unsuccessfully offered information and advice to help the Kerry campaign attack Mr. Bush, according to a posting Mr. Burkett wrote in an e-mail newsletter.
"I spent some time on the phone with the Kerry campaign seniors yesterday," Mr. Burkett wrote on Aug. 21 in an e-mail letter circulated to a list of about 600 Texas Democrats.
He complained that he had to "get through seven layers of bureaucratic kids trying to get a job after the election."
"I talked with Max Cleland," Mr. Burkett continued, referring to the former senator from Georgia who has been supporting Senator John Kerry's Democratic presidential bid.
Alluding to advertisements by a veterans group that deprecates Mr. Kerry's Vietnam service, Mr. Burkett continued, "I asked if they wanted to counterattack or ride this to ground and outlast it, not spending any money. He said counterattack."
"So I gave them the information to do it with," Mr. Burkett wrote. "But none of them have called me back."
Mr. Burkett did not say what information he offered. Earlier this year, he gained attention for saying that in 1998 he saw aides to Gov. George W. Bush of Texas and Guard officials dispose of pieces of Mr. Bush's National Guard record that could prove politically embarrassing. Mr. Bush's aides have denied his account.
"I volunteered to come back out with more," Mr. Burkett wrote.
Mr. Burkett, who was at home on his ranch in Baird, near Abilene, on Friday, declined to comment.
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Didn't see any way to do that or I would have.
I guess I need to enroll in Posting 101...
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Burkett's as guilty as a cat in a goldfish bowl. The interesting question at this point is whether or not the Kerry campaign was actively involved in passing Burkett's documents to CBS. Normally I'd believe that no campaign would be that stupid but Rather's continued stonewalling in the face of overwhelming evidence is amazingly suspicious.
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The people at the prison jumpsuit factory have got to be going crazy if this turns out to be really big. All those custom jobs. Double sized special for Michael Moore - One Sleeve and no legs for Cleland... Hipless model for his hypothesizing Attorney VanOs (an obvious snake-snakes have no hips) . And the Siamese twin model for Carville and Begala. Let's not forget George Soros who will demand it be made of Silk and have an extra large pocket for an extra large ego. And can afford an attorney to file the papers.
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just shows what a loser Cleland really is....
wonder if he's still delivering Kerry's mail for him
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DanNY: Choose "Post your own article" (not "post a link"); highlight the section of the article you want to post (you'll need 2 internet windows open - one on the article and one to Rantburg); use "edit-copy" to copy it; paste it on the Rantburg page; do all the rest (fill in the link, make a title, add snarky comments as desired).
Remember you can back up and make changes as many times as you need before you click "Accept."
Just a little help from one who regularly screws up posting. :-p
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"...a veterans group that deprecates Mr. Kerry's Vietnam service..."
Attention NYT: (1) To "deprecate" is "to express mild or regretful disapproval," so that's not the right word. (2) The group is Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. And (3) you can't name them because that would reveal your slant -- their obsession is Kerry's lack of truth, not his service.
F#@%ing NYT -- they're incredible, literally.
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The general read I get from most blogs and (johhny-come-lately) MSM is that CBS was hoaxed and just refuses to admit it for reasons that are unfathomable.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. They weren't duped, they were caught.
With the testimony of all the CBS experts who say "I never...", or "I warned CBS...", etc., etc., the question becomes, if you know it's a hoax and you decide to proceed anyway, because it fits your agenda, have you been duped? Of course not.
To me the real question isn't one of being duped but rather (no pun intended) did they pro-actively solicit the forgeries?
CBS: "So, Mr X. were looking for anything that makes Bush look bad."
Mr X: "Yeah, sure, I can get you something like that."
Next question - were the Dems involved? I have to admit, this really has the flavor of the Kerry "Step-on-your-own-dick" campaign, but I expect that if there were any collusion, it took place at pretty low levels.
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I wouldn't go so far as calling it active solicitation but there were a couple of stories last week that indicated that CBS has been, since the last election, asking for documents that contain some very specific info. At least one person who was asked indicated that much of the info in the documents could have been inferred or learned outright from CBS's questions. Sorry, I don't have a link. :(
The Navy's chief investigator concluded Friday that procedures were followed properly in the approval of Sen. John Kerry's Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals, according to an internal Navy memo. Vice Adm. R.A. Route, the Navy inspector general, conducted the review of Kerry's Vietnam-ear military service awards at the request of Judicial Watch, a public interest group. The group has also asked for the release of additional records documenting the Democratic presidential candidate's military service.
Judicial Watch had requested in August that the Navy open an investigation of the matter, but Route said in an internal memo obtained by The Associated Press that he saw no reason for a full-scale probe. "Our examination found that existing documentation regarding the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals indicates the awards approval process was properly followed," Route wrote in the memo sent Friday to Navy Secretary Gordon England. "In particular, the senior officers who awarded the medals were properly delegated authority to do so. In addition, we found that they correctly followed the procedures in place at the time for approving these awards."
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I hope it doesn't take long for an appeal. It is time for Kerry to sign the Standard Form 180 as President Bush did long ago.
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Listen asshole, if things were so groovy for carry...sKerry, why does he hold on to 38 pages of his Military record? Hmmmmm...Why does this "thing" known as John Kerry refuse to address the swift boat group? Why can't this asshole throw a strike from 55 feet 6 inches with no pressure? The President of current day USA can go to the TOP of the mound and throw a perfect strike with some heat!! And by the way, wearing two flak jackets!! Right after an attack on our beloved country!
John Kerry, Your an ASSHOLE of the largest degree!!
John Kerry must go down!! If not now then later. If this man is elected....I will be more than happy to start a revolution!!
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I'm not interested in wheather proper proceedures were followed for awarding Mr. Kerry his medals. What I'd like to know is how he got 3 citations for the Silver Star that are all different, signed by different Admirals, and the last one is for an award the military does not give. The Silver Star with Combat V is not a Navy or any other branch of service award. As I understand the "investigation" it only covered the original awarding of these medals.
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Report says proper procedures were followed; doesn't say he actually deserved the awards.
Advocate MD Tahir has moved the Lahore High Court asking the Federation of Pakistan to get rid of democracy and declare the country a kingdom with General Pervez Musharraf its first king. Mr Tahir referred to several incidents of overthrowing democratic governments which had let the country down and said every time a dictator came into power sychophants gather around him to guard their vested interests. The dictator in order to keep his rule secure fully manipulates them through sham elections and people indeed favourite to him only are chosen, said the petitioner. The petitioner said this practice did not represent a true democratic will of the people but reflected the will of the people ruled by kings. Mr Tahir said when politicians themselves wanted to see General Pervez Musharraf in uniform for an infinite time even after the constitutional deadline of December 31, the circumstances demand that Pakistan should be declared a Kingdom and democracy should be discarded once for all.
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Ah yes, that "kingdom" thingy works so well, just like in Saudi Arabia. King Perv the First has quite a ring to it, no?
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Gotta hand it to Tahir: he's being quite straightforward about the situation. One would equally wish that the MSM would drop the pretense of impartiality and declare themselves the PR department of the Democratic party.
Health officials in India's capital, Delhi, have served notice on the city police for letting mosquitoes breed in its headquarters. Municipal health department spokesman, KN Tiwari, said a warning had been sent after mosquito larvae were found. Delhi health authorities started surprise checks after a number of dengue fever cases were reported in the capital last week. Delhi police could be liable for a fine of at least 200 rupees ($4.36). That's like, what, a week's salary? Bad cop, no doughnut!
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"We have conducted surprise checks and found mosquito breeding conditions in two police stations apart from their headquarters," Mr Tiwari said. "We have issued notices to the police and they may even have to pay a fine of at least 200 rupees if appropriate measures are not taken to control it." An official in the police commissioner's office confirmed checks did take place in the headquarters and two police stations in the southern part of the capital. The city municipal corporation is also conducting checks in government departments. More than 5,000 people have been prosecuted and notices have been issued to nearly 20,000 residents. Mosquito-borne diseases are a serious health risk to Delhi's 15m people. Dengue fever, a mosquito-borne virus which is indigenous to parts of Asia and the Caribbean, infects nearly 100m people worldwide.
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