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I wonder if you could make a node map of Imans and mosques throughout the West and use it as a starting point for a map of Fundementalist Islamic Terrorism.
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I have read articles on this site several times - and to this day I can't make up my mind regards whom Robb's posts help more, the good guys or the bad guys. They always bring to mind those moments when good technical data falls into the wrong hands - and they learn to stop using satellite phones, for example.
Do not send any more email about energy. I don't want to talk about breeder reactors, and I don't want to talk about MHD, and I don't want to talk about solar cells, and I don't want to talk about "peak oil", and I don't want to talk about whether petroleum is organic or inorganic in origin, and I don't even want to talk about coretaps. I don't want to talk about, or read about, or think about, and especially I don't want to receive any more email about, anything to do with energy.
Email about energy is an unwelcome burden, not a pleasant surprise. The needle on the annoyance meter is currently pointing to "fingernails on chalkboard" and beginning to move towards "Chirac". If this doesn't cease, I'm going to start putting people into the Bozo Bin.
Amen, Steve
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LOL. Sounds like Phil B.
But still... there's this turkey guts and old mattel action figure breakthru....
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I am a fan of SDB, although he *really* needs to get an editor. I think energy supply is THE over-riding public policy issue. Fix that and you fix a lot of other problems (including the WoT). So I'm not burned out by all ignorant twaddle floating around on the subject, but I understand why his annoyance meter has hit the red zone.
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I've seen pictures of this Jocelyn Wildeman before she lost her mind and did this to herself, she wasn't all that hard on the eyes. She was trying to make herself look like a cat, Jeebus what a mess.
An advert for womenâs underwear has been criticised after it was put up on billboards near two mosques. The poster, for Wiltshire-based company Sloggi, shows four women wearing only G-strings and high heels, alongside the slogan "Itâs string time". But complaints were made after the image was put up next to mosques in Leeds and Bury, Greater Manchester. The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) received two complaints but ruled it was not meant to cause offence. The ASA said the "nakedness shown in the poster" could offend Muslims if placed near a mosque or a place of worship. Triumph International, which owns the Sloggi brand, claimed it told its contractors to avoid using poster sites near mosques. The company was told by the ASA to "take more care with the placing of similar posters" in future.
Once again the poor, oppressed minorities cannae handle the sight of a bare botty in public.
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Wait a sec - weren't we doing this exact same story about 4-5 months ago?
I recall we had a "special" poster on the thread, too. He just livened everything right up! Howard, can you recall exactly what was posted (and I think I was the culprit) that set him off?
We had such a good time, I wanna see if we can lure him back! ;->
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.com - I believe we were. I recollect we had various suggestions - one being that the offending ad should be replaced by adverts for Danish bacon or that fine publication, 'Asian Babes'
Check this one too.. you guys have the right idea!
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Lol! Reminds me of a Pub in Bangkok called Jools on Soi 4 just off Sukhumvit past the Dynasty Inn. They have a sign telling their Islamic patrons something along these lines:
We Don't Appreciate Drunks or People Who Abuse And Fondle The Waitresses So No Arabs Will Be Served Alcohol Because We Respect Your Religion Even If You Don't.
#6
.com - We Respect Your Religion Even If You Don't ROFLMFAO!! I just tore someting again..
Bulldog's lines from another post sit nicely here:
hate-filled retard-o-punks, and shuffling, mumbling little freaks-under-sheets
That's what you want, that's what you gets... where are the sensible muslims in the UK? They DO exist!!
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Really offend them. Advertise soap and deodorant.
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Howard - The sensible Muslims just get on with life without making a fuss about advertising posters. It doesn't take a whole lotta idiots to make a news story...
#9
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
BD - I hope for your sake that Anon 1's female.
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deja vu! that was fun thread. im agree with .com we are need antiwar and abramov here. im miss antiwar. this story is shuld be bait enuff to chum waters but ifn want atract troll you best trolling done artificials. ima cast one out.
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I say we start putting up nude models with the underwear floating beside them.
Back during the campaign in Afghanistan, I came up with a very simple plan for destabilizing al-Q and the Taliban: carpet-bomb the country with Victoria's Secret catalogs and watch the fun. Don't know why Rumsfeld never returned my E-mails . . .
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this story is shuld be bait enuff to chum waters
muck4, I thought you supported PETA. tsk tsk
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06/09/2004 11:55 Comments ||
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Even Allah needs to see some t & a once in a while. Don't let em fool you.
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rafael peta is not protect troll as they not animals. if you are ever play dungeon and dragons you are know they from underworld. im shuld have cast two lines as two beter than one. here another lure for good ole antiwar.
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Alternatively - many Muslims fail to integrate into British Society because their heads can't be removed from their arseholes, resulting in a demand for an entirely separate education system based on stone age values. Hey, I'm not Joooish, Joooish schools do exist, but Jooos have lived here for centuries - WTF make concessions to these pricks? Harumph.
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It seems they want the schools to teach religion. I sincerely hope what they are demanding won't happen but you just never know. If you want a religious education go to a religious school.
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How about "Muslim parents 'failing' Muslim kids". Do they want their kids integrated, well-adjusted and set to prosper in their chosen society, or do they want them bouncing, hate-filled retard-o-punks, and shuffling, mumbling little freaks-under-sheets? I believe it's a parent's right to screw-up their children how they see fit (within limits), but don't expect the rest of us to pay for it.
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.
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It was brilliant, (just like you), and fitting. I remember well the good old days of a couple of years ago, and you were a very good poster.
On the topic though, I was concerned where they said things like not having mixed sex-ed classes.
Fine, have segregated sex-ed classes but I suspect they would want to ban the girls from having any sex-ed classes at all, conservatism being the general tenor of traditional islam.
I hope there is some regulation that demands that certain fundamentals of curriculum (reading, writing (in english!), sex-ed, maths, a bit of history/geography/science etc) get taught in ALL schools including religious schools.
Can't have one segment of the population getting out of school not even knowing how babies are made.
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..and the mother tongues of Muslim pupils should be taught more widely.
Bullshit. That's a parent's job. The job of a school in the UK is to educate a kid so that he/she can function in UK society, and should stay out of the foreign culture business.
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Title should be: "Muslims Can't Cut It in Western Society. Failure Starts In Schools"
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A group of academics and education experts said "institutional racism" was stopping more Muslim state schools from being set up. (I wonder if serving pork and providing mixed-sex education classes fit within their "institutional racism" accusation.)
There should be more research into and formal consultation with the Muslim community.... (Read--permission.)
She said: "There should be recognition of these schools which have been working for a long time and should be state funded, just like Jewish and Church of England schools." (Here is where the UK's problem's start...)
Kurshid Ahmed of the Commission for Racial Equality told BBC News that state school provision for Muslims could be improved, but warned that separate faith schools prevented integration. Right on, Kurshid!
"Schools and teachers must respect the different faiths and customs of all their pupils." Unless the schools and teachers are Muslim...
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..and the mother tongues of Muslim pupils should be taught more widely.
Oh yeah right. I know of many countries where leftists have managed for child of immigrants getting teaching of their mothertongues. First result is that they don't learn to speak and write properly the tongue of the country, atr least not at the level you need for passing as a mildly educated person. Second result is that the day they leave school and go into the job circuit they are at a severe disadvantage for high level jobs. End result is that is the kids of the leftists who get the well paid jobs since the kids of immigrants cannot compete. How convenient.
...reported by El Nacional on Saturday June 5th, to suspend the legal and mandatory deliveries of dollars obtained from the sale of petroleum, from Petroleos de Venezuela to the Venezuelan Central Bank, in favor to hand over this money directly to the government of Hugo Chavez for âsocial usesâ, or, in simpler words, for the political and personal use of this money by Chavez and his accomplices.
This intolerable abuse of power is reported, as a matter of fact, by Rodrigo Cabezas, the President of the Finance Commission of the National Assembly and member of the government political party. Says Cabezas that the decision of PDVSA was taken in order to establish âa shorter route for the financing of public investment projectsâ. This measure, probably taken over a few drinks on a Saturday afternoon by a small group of ignorant people close to Chavez, is the equivalent to the elimination of the role played by the Federal Reserve and the Congress of the United States in the handling of public financial resources.
Cabezas reported, like if he was talking about peanuts, that some $2 billion would be handed over to the government by PDVSA, short circuiting the Venezuelan Central Bank which was supposed, according to the Law, to receive that money. Already $ 750 million have been diverted, in this fashion, away from the Venezuelan Central Bank to the Chavez government during the month of May, as reported by Central Bank Director Armando Leon.
The report by El Nacional adds that these illegal transfers explain why the international financial reserves of the Venezuelan Central Bank have been diminishing, in spite of increasing petroleum income.
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Dead link - suggest deleting!
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Sorry, it may have been an inappropriate joke. The whole "shadow war" beef against Reagan bothers me. I linked the Flying Tigers because that certainly is a case of a president defying Congress. All the pilots were paid through back channels by the US governement.
Here are some other unauthorized meanders across the line into the grey area of presidential ehtos: the Secret War in Laos, Air America running supplies to the French in Bien Dien Phu, and the Bay of Pigs - all of these "gross crimes" were perpetrated by Democratic Administrations to hurt Totalitarian regimes. And, you know, I support every one of them. I don't understand how we can turn-up our nose at spiking Ortega's Communist thugs. [rant/]
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DRUNKS who vomit on streets in the Victorian city of Bendigo could be forced to clean up their mess under proposed new laws. Local authorities are considering the laws after a spate of anti-social behaviour around the cityâs nightspots. "Drunken behaviour is a fair bit of a problem here and anything we can do to stop this is welcome," said Sergeant Tony Kekitch of Bendigo Police. "Police are kept very busy each night, especially on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights." Under proposed laws, anyone charged with anti-social behaviour would be forced to clean up the area where they were arrested. Police say men and women aged in their mid-20s were primary offenders and had also been linked to a spate of vandalism. He just smiled and coughed up a vegemite sandwich.
Publican at Bendigoâs Rising Sun hotel Patrick Sheehan said the "drunks proposal" was a practical deterrent to young people. "Itâs a good way of saying we wonât tolerate this type of behaviour and they know the punishment," he said. Just bring back the stocks and stop messing around.
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He just smiled and coughed up a vegemite sandwich.
hehe
"Do you puke in the land down under? Ohh yeaahh!"
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I must protest theis dissing of a fine old Aussie tradition! The "Technicolor Yawn" has been a part of life down under since the days of the Penal Colony.
Bulky four-by-fours could be banned from clogging up the chic streets of Paris after a top official in the capitalâs left-wing government described them as a polluting "caricature of a car" unsuited to city life. An anti-sports utility vehicle (SUV) resolution passed by the city council could lead to a ban on the popular vehicles in about 18 months if it is included in an overall project to improve traffic flow in the city, Deputy Mayor Denis Baupin said Wednesday. "You have to wonder why people want to drive around in SUVs," Baupin, a Greens party member, said on Europe 1 radio. "We have no interest in having SUVs in the city. Theyâre dangerous to others and take up too much space." . . . .
All I can say is; "How French!"
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First you must understand that our SUV 's are generally smaller than, say a chevy suburban.
One can understand the air pollution concerns in such a decision, but why stop here?
After all, turning A/C on consumes more gas, why not banning A/C cars?
And, when you think of it, on the subway, there is the untold incovenient of say, big size people: they take more space, move slower in the flow and they produce on average more.....gas!
Paris is fast becoming a wonderfull city for tourists, yuppies without children who can afford buying groceries from small stores, and so on.
Personally, i vote with my feet.It 's been ages i haven't been to city center for pleasure;it 's just not worth the trouble!
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In France do you get headlines such as "SUV Plows Through Storefront"? Here in the US, you see, our SUVs apparently are now able to pilot themselves as they see fit.
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frenchfregoli, when you say you "vote with my feet...it's just not worth the trouble!" Are you referring to how it's just not worth the trouble of cleaning the dog crap off your shoes due to all the Parisiens that refuse to pick up after their mutts?
From Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty
On 4 June, Ali Ahmeti, the chairman of the governing ethnic Albanian Democratic Union for Integration (BDI), addressed a press conference to mark the second anniversary of the BDIâs foundation. The press conference highlighted a remarkable transformation -- from an armed rebel organization to a moderate governing party. .... The BDIâs founding marked the end of a transition from a rebel organization demanding greater rights for the large ethnic Albanian minority to the major political force among the countryâs ethnic Albanian parties. ....
Underscoring the positive achievements of the BDIâs participation in the government, Ahmeti mentioned the voluntary disarmament of the rebels and the civilian population carried out in two separate operations in late 2001 and in late 2003. .... As another positive result of the implementation of the Ohrid peace agreement, Ahmeti noted that the representation of Albanians in the state administration has become closer to their share of the overall population. ....
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ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Is this an appropriate time for critics of the former president to voice their dissent? Our next guest certainly thinks so. He's penned a column condemning Reagan's legacy, "His clown-like dyed hair and rouged cheeks disgusted us. We hated him during the dark days he made so hideous, and, with all due respect, we hate him still." Joining us now columnist and political cartoonist Ted Rall. I don't see where the respect is.
TED RALL, COLUMNIST AND POLITICAL CARTOONIST: There is no respect for a man who...
COLMES: So why say with all respect? Isn't that hypocritical? Because you're not showing any respect.
RALL: It's called sarcasm, Alan.
COLMES: Look, Ecclesiastes says for everything there is a season and I think there's a time. I've spent many years being critical of Reagan's policies, and I'm sure the time will come once again to debate those things.
RALL: Clearly, I mean, I'm just...
COLMES: You need to understand my question.
RALL: Sure.
COLMES: Is there no appropriate time to hold your fire and to show some grace, at least, if for no other reason, than to respect the office of the presidency?
RALL: I think I respect the office of the presidency to the extent to say that President Reagan is entitled to the flag at half-staff, the state funeral, all that kind of thing.
COLMES: That's kind of you.
RALL: But he's not -- Well, I wouldn't say that about George W. Bush. When he dies, he shouldn't be...
COLMES: He should not have a flag at half-mast, should not have a state funeral?
RALL: He's not legally elected. He's not the president of the United States.
COLMES: We have a Supreme Court. You need to respect -- Let's not even get off into that.
RALL: That's a sore subject.
COLMES: And that's where I have problems with my fellow liberals who can't get over the election of 2000. They should be focusing on winning 2004. But you, by doing this, make those on my side look bad by showing no grace, no compassion, no sense of humanity for a man who served this country, whether or not you agree with the things he stood for.
RALL: Well, I have more sympathy for the 290 million Americans who are living worse lives under a worse economy, being paid less with worse health care, with more homelessness and more poverty than there would have been, had Ronald Reagan never become president. So for me, you're right, I don't have much sympathy for him.
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: You said you hated him then, you hate him still. You also said, "I'm sure he's turning a crispy brown now."
RALL: If you believe in heaven and hell, you've got to say, if anyone qualifies for hell it's a guy who lets five hundred thousand people died of AIDS.
HANNITY: Are you happy he's dead?
RALL: I don't care that he's dead. I think -- right now, the press is on both sides is examining the man's legacy, and we're not going to have this discussion in two weeks or two weeks ago. It's now.
HANNITY: You're the guy that said after Pat Tillman who after 9/11 was so motivated he gave up millions of dollars and a football career, you also called him a sap and an idiot.
RALL: And he went and got himself killed by our own guys with friendly fire.
HANNITY: And this is -- And his family is back here, and here, they're suffering, just like the Reagan's are suffering, whether you like them or you hate them, in your words, or not. And here you come, and you want to pour salt in their wounds. Here's...
RALL: No, what I'm really trying to do, I'm really trying to save other Pat Tillmans from making a similar stupid mistake and going and getting themselves killed for no good reason.
HANNITY: Act as altruistic as you like. You are mean. You are cruel. You are thoughtless, and you are a hateful human being. You don't have a soul. And you don't care about anybody but yourself. And you do this for shock value so that your name could be noticed. You're a slob. You're an absolutely -- you're a hateful human being to do this to families that are suffering. There's no excuse for it. There's no rationale for what you're doing. You're mean, cruel and thoughtless.
RALL: Well, there you go again, Sean.
HANNITY: Telling the truth about you. You are a mean person to do this to the Reagan's. You were mean to do it to the Tillmans, and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. And you ought to take this opportunity to look into that camera and say you're sorry.
RALL: I think you ought to be ashamed of yourself, Sean, for promoting policies and for -- for indulging in this insane hyped ideology of Ronald Reagan that you've had going throughout this entire show.
HANNITY: He ended the Cold -- he ended the Cold War...
RALL: No, he didn't.
HANNITY: He confronted the Soviet Union. The world is safer because of his leadership.
RALL: That's not true. That is a lie.
HANNITY: He doubled revenue for the federal government.
RALL: That's a lie.
HANNITY: He had the longest peacetime economically in history.
RALL: Absolutely not true.
HANNITY: And he created 20 million new jobs in this country.
RALL: None of this is true.
HANNITY: All of which is true.
RALL: All lies. It's not true.
HANNITY: You are thoughtless, mean, hateful liberal.
RALL: He had a three-year economic boom.
HANNITY: And all liberals ought to condemn people like you.
RALL: Well, you know, I would say that we can turn this around and say the same thing about you guys.
HANNITY: I don't know any conservative that would say that.
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That's one of the most pathetic excuses for a human being I can imagine. A microscopic soul and an intellect to go with it.
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Fred, I think you give him too much credit
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When Ted goes his family ought to set up a booth and sell tickets to the people who'll be lining up to piss on his grave. It'll be a long, long line.
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When an intelligent post-modern liberal like Colmes thinks that you're a disrespectful schmuck, it's all over for you.
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I wish the video was available - it was much more serious than it sounds - they were approx 24 inches apart and I could feel Hannity's disgust - it was palpable. And Rall sat there, a smirky nasty little buffoon, proof to me that some people should not be breathing my air.
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Dr Steve - right on - I actually felt sorry for Colmes (which I seldom feel, heh) to have to share the same "side" with such a creature. It looked like torture for him. Rall, if you met him face to face, would put your Physician's Oath to the extreme test, methinks. He reeks asshood.
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Rall: No, he didn't. That's not true. That is a lie. Absolutely not true. All lies. It's not true.
Doesn't he sound like a like a totalitarian regime propagandist? Rall, the Left's answer to Mohammed al-Sahaf.
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What the hell is this "Poofter" talking about?
500k dead from AIDS? Wrong!! When the Blood Letting begins, I know where to start!! This guy is gonna have a tough time....
This guy is what is totally wrong with the nation.
How did such a pathetic little group of morphodite mutations get to where they can say something like this about Ronald Reagan is a complete disgrace. This man should not be allowed on the streets of this great nation. I wish this guy the slowest death possible from the gay plague!
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Rall is a classic wimp turned bully, with authoritarian rhetoric as his weapon of choice. Almost literally everything he says is couched as a pronouncement of personal authority, ie, it is true because he says it is.
Here lately, he has taken to picking on dead people.
I guess the wheelchair-bound and small children are too much for him.
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Next Rall is going to be claiming that it's not really Reagans body in the casket. But you could tell Reagans body was in there, if from nothing else than the fact that Daschle look like he was seeing a ghost about to beat the crap out of him.
I rather like that thought, Reagans ghost beating the crap out of Daschle. Probably why Chirac said he won't pay his last respects along with the other G8 leaders.
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RFK once said something profound about people like Rall: "What is dangerous about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents."
There are many people in the US who have learned much from the wisdom of JFK and RFK; Ted certainly didn't learn a thing from them.
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Doesn't he sound like a like a totalitarian regime propagandist?
That's because he is.
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Rall is an ass. I'd love to get him alone in a room. This old man would beat the f**k out of him. Beat the smirk out of his face.
If Rall were to die this very minute that would still not be enough to undo the damage this morally defective ape has done.
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The National Cartoonist society nominated him for a Ruben Award.
I use Ted Rall as a "mean spirited" test. Anyone who says they think he is funny, I immediately cross off my list and make an effort to avoid. Those kinds of people are your "friends" until you need a "friend" and then they actually delight in seeing your stumble - happy to provide a little extra push on your way down. It provides insight to their mindset and exposes a character flaw I choose not to ignore.
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Oh, thank you, .com, for posting this! Dammit, I wish I'd seen it! Too precious!
All I ask is 5 minutes alone with that prick... I know I could never convince him of anything, but beating the shit out of him would make me feel soooooooo good!
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Sean is 100% accurate in describing this creature. He is hateful, insensitive, cruel, ... He is an ass who gets his jollies by doing this. He should really be ignored like the insiginicant little rabbit turd he really is.
But Oldspook, there is no call to insult morally defective apes! Apes are just being themselves.
The central premise of F9/11: that Bush authorised rellies of Binnie Laden to leave the US following S11 has been proven false by fellow Bush-basher Dickie Clarke who says it was all my decision and Iâm right and Iâd do it again.... So what was that about documentaries being about fact and truth? The whole CENTRAL PREMISE of Moronâs movie is wrong. CENTRAL PREMISE: not little detail.
When Bush-Bashers Collide? Mooreâs Film at Odds with Clarke Remarks
... Moore has alleged in interviews promoting the film that Bush and his father, former president George H.W. Bush, had close ties to the Saudis, which led to the decision to help bin Ladenâs family leave the country following the terrorist attacks. Clarkeâs sworn testimony before the 9/11 Commission in March, describing how the FBI approved the flights for the bin Ladens and other Saudis to leave the U.S., may have strengthened that premise. But Clarkeâs interview with The Hill newspaper, published on May 26, contradicted that previous testimony. The decision to approve the flights, Clarke admitted last week, had been his own. The request "didnât get any higher than me," he told The Hill . "On 9-11, 9-12 and 9-13, many things didnât get any higher than me. I decided it in consultation with the FBI," Clarke said of the plane flight carrying bin Ladenâs relatives. "I take responsibility for it. I donât think it was a mistake, and Iâd do it again," he added. The Saudis and bin Ladenâs relatives were flown from the U.S. out of fear for their safety following the terror attacks. ...
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He's slipping, being proven wrong even before the film hits theaters. Next time, Mikey, I want a stupid, fact-devoid tirade claim that stands up at least until the thing's out on video!
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I can not believe Foxnews.com is actually PRAISING this movie! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122680,00.html
I plan to go with a some friends, wait until that scene that makes Hillary look bad, and then WALK OUT IN PROTEST!
This movie is going to backfire, people who see it will see that it is contrived and be doubly resolved to vote for Bush.
#2
You know, I think inside Michael Moore there is actually a truly patriotic, conscientious, and responsible person who wants to see America be a better place and see Americans enlightened and prosperous.
It's just too bad that Mikey ate him.
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Director Michael Mooreâs controversial anti-Iraq war film "Fahrenheit 9/11" won a standing ovation on Tuesday night from an audience of film industry professionals attending its West Coast debut at Academy Award headquarters. After an audience of more than 600 people in the theater of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences cheered, whistled and laughed their way through the two-hour film, they jumped to their feet to give Moore a standing ovation as he took the stage. Clearly buoyed by the reception, Moore, whose film is scathingly critical and mocking of President Bush, declared: "There has been a shift in this country. ... The average American is finally beginning to figure it out. We were duped (into invading Iraq)." How many people will be duped into paying $8.00 to see this dreck? Would any Rantburger be interested in funding my next film project? Its a biography of this idiot. The working title is Stupid Fat Twat.
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I reckon we should "Michael Moore" Michael Moron.
I would love to help fund your biography but I'm studying full time right now, with no cash to spare. I will fund to the tune of $10 though.
Stupid Fat Twat is a great working title. Only twat is a very british term, doesn't work so well in the US or Australia.
I reckon a doco on him and the lies he's put in his doco's so far would go a great way towards dispelling some of the stupid fat lies he's spread.
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It is simply amazing to me that the self-appointed bastion of intellectualism, the European Liberal elite, can be so smitten with a man who is so inept at argumentation. Anyone see Bowling for Columbine? Is there one conclusion he draws which is developed point by point, sequentially and reasonably? I have never seen so much jumping to a conclusion in my life. Horrible.
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We need to make sure that the Academy enforces the generally accepted definition of a documentary as something truthful. I don't care if they want to worship at Pigboy's altar as long as they don't call his lies a "documentary".
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President George W. Bushâs increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides privately express growing concern over their leaderâs state of mind. In meetings with top aides and administration officials, the President goes from quoting the Bible in one breath to obscene tantrums against the media, Democrats and others that he classifies as "enemies of the state." Worried White House aides paint a portrait of a man on the edge, increasingly wary of those who disagree with him and paranoid of a public that no longer trusts his policies in Iraq or at home. "It reminds me of the Nixon days," says a longtime GOP political consultant with contacts in the White House. "Everybody is an enemy; everybody is out to get him. Thatâs the mood over there." In interviews with a number of White House staffers who were willing to talk off the record, a picture of an administration under siege has emerged, led by a man who declares his decisions to be "Godâs will" and then tells aides to "fuck over" anyone they consider to be an opponent of the administration. "Weâre at war, thereâs no doubt about it. What I donât know anymore is just who the enemy might be," says one troubled White House aide. "We seem to spend more time trying to destroy John Kerry than al Qaeda and our enemies list just keeps growing and growing"...
The Presidentâs abrupt dismissal of CIA Directory George Tenet Wednesday night is, aides say, an example of how he works. "Tenet wanted to quit last year but the President got his back up and wouldnât hear of it," says an aide. "That would have been the opportune time to make a change, not in the middle of an election campaign but when the director challenged the President during the meeting Wednesday, the President cut him off by saying âthatâs it George. I cannot abide disloyalty. I want your resignation and I want it now." Tenet was allowed to resign "voluntarily" and Bush informed his shocked staff of the decision Thursday morning. One aide says the President actually described the decision as "Godâs will." Iâve never heard of this website, or the storyâs author, Doug Thompson. Anybody want to comment?
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The source in question should be taken with a whole shaker of salt. If this were even remotely true, the NYT would be running with it on the front page.
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Judging from the "news" headlines on his site, I don't think Doug Thompson is a credible source. More propaganda masquerading as news--just like the NYT and BBC.
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President goes from quoting the Bible in one breath to obscene tantrums against the media, Democrats and others that he classifies as "enemies of the state."
#6
Saw this somewhere else a couple of days ago. Moonbattery, utter moonbattery.
What's hilarious, if you follow the link, when the site opens up you get a pop-box for "Tickle IQ test." That's a message from God if ever there was!
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LHR...lol!
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This guy is a washed-up beat reporter who spent a few decades working as a second stringer for a series of small town and third tier regional newspapers. Now he's marketing himself as the guy who get's the scoops no one else in D.C. can get. Heck, if you can't get the story - make up your own right? That seems to be his style anyway.
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LHR I think he has a point on the 'enemy of the state business.' Too bad Bush would not frame it that way. More like: "Evil doer heplers." Troll meter was pegging before I opened the post.
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If the other news items on this website are an indication of anything, you can file this one under "F" for fiction. Imagine: a heretofore unheard of website has scooped every major news organization on not one, but several, blockbuster news stories--all of which the Abu Grabass crowd (with all of their contacts) would give their eye teeth to report on.
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# 3 I agree, I do that every day. fabricated slander from the Carville fax machine. Honestly, I don't know which is worse, be it the damage that the filthy Democrat attack machine has tried to inflict on the office of the Presidency(again), or of those who expect perfection in our leaders who would otherwise support President Bush. Make no mistake and Let President Reagans Death be a reminder; the office and the land he fought so valiantly to restore is under attack. The "its all so like Nixon..." tripe should be the tipoff. They done Nixon dirty, for putting Alger Hiss behind bars, and they hurt our nation and ourselves immeasurably, while aiding and abetting our enemies in Soviet Union and the terror they exported to the world (middle east in particular). Not only support, but pray for our commander in chief; it is a tough job. President Bush is the most successful President since President Reagan, and I for one, want four more years
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...Again, let us return to 1984 - remember the 'stories' of how obsessed President Reagan was with God, and how he was 'visibly slipping'?...
Prediction - the Other Side is starting to seriously consider the possibility of horrrifying, nightmarish, stomach-churning DEFEAT in November, and they know what the consequences of that will be. They will pull out all the stops to prevent it.
Mike
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Man, the Left can't seem to decide which kind of supervillain the President is. One day he's the Hulk, the next day he's Lex Luthor, now he's Bizarro. Jeese, can't they just settle on something?
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Sheesh... what's next for Rantburg, posting stuff from Lyndon LaRouche's website? This stuff is junk.
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BigEd: Oh I don't doubt it - of the "useful idiot" variety.
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LHR: I was not trolling. I apologize for leaving off the /irony or /sarcasm or whatever tag. What I meant was that the sentiments expressed in the quoted portion, i.e. that much media and some Dems are "enemies of the state" worthy of obscene tantrums, seems sensible to me. Not that the story itself or the source are in any way legitimate. Apologies all around for the confusion.
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This is utter crap. But if its true, I hope he's stalking the halls muttering to himself " F**k Iran, they'll see, mullah go boom, yeah Georgie gonna git some".
#27
Gee do you suppose AL Jazeira (sorry about the hack spelling but who gives a hoot about that rag) is going to run this.
I would think that Reuters would give this a front page lead right next to their attempts at deconstructing Reagan's legacy.
Anyone who thinks Bush lied about Iraq is a complete buffoon or terribly in need of medications. Every intelligence service in Europe plus China thought Iraq had them. Hell even SLick Willy and Tom the Terrible Daschle thought so in 1998 when they blew up a couple of tents to wag the dog and hide Monica's blue dress.
So you Bush Lied nincompoops are right up there with the grass knoll guys who think that Lyndon offed Kennedy.
What a shame that well educated people are so easily deluded with conspiracy theory garbage and liberal/communist drivel against honorable men like Bush and Reagan
#29
Actually, Capitol Hill Blue has been around for about 10 years. Doug Thompson actually wrote a fairly nice story about meeting Ronald Reagan in 76 and working for him as a very minor political staffer until 88. I don't know what prompted this hit piece. Although CHB has been trending very steadily to the left for the past couple of years, this kind of crap is out of character.
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Curious, I had a lefty bomb thrower point me to this article this morning. I took a look at the Capitol Blue website, scanned the headlines, reached for my barf bag, and disgarded the article.
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I am not a Bush admirer but I think this is mis-information. Please look at how Bush behaves in public.Erratic behaviour can partially be controlled with drugs, and I think it would show. Please use common sense
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Erratic behavior? Jeez, before you know it, he'll be getting beaners from interns in the Oval office.
Oh, wait. That was somebody else. And, from him, it wasn't considered erratic behavior.
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Disturbing thought for the day: is the only reason people don't think of Clinton as being unstable that he didn't ever seem to _care_ about anything?
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Thanks for the comments. I regret giving this any time.
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BB - Actually, when they come totally unglued like this, it's prolly a good thing to be aware of it. And hell, at least half of the 75-IQ crowd swallowed it whole and have convinced themselves it was the Voice of God.
WND, so perhaps a little salt; as a non-US citizen Iâm not really concerned, but Iâd prefer Condy Rice
There are whispers among high-level political advisers to President Bush suggesting the possibility of replacing Dick Cheney with former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani as the vice presidential running mate prior to the Republican National Convention in New York beginning Aug. 30. Cheney, who has no aspirations to run for president in 2008 and has had well-publicized heart problems, has been involved in the discussions and is open to the idea if it strengthens the ticket and helps position a viable Republican candidate to succeed Bush, sources tell WND. Giuliani, as well as New York Gov. George Pataki, has been expected to play a starring role at the convention. Both are also considered possible presidential candidates in 2008. Securing the vice presidential nomination, however, would instantly make Giuliani the front-runner among all potential Republican candidates. "There is some thinking at the very highest political levels that this move could add some late sizzle to the campaign, steal any thunder generated by the Democrats in Boston and even potentially put the state of New York in play for the president," said one source close to both Giuliani and the White House. No one is talking on the record, and the plan is not yet set in stone.
I think the plan's streaked with brown and kinda stinky, since somebody probably pulled this idea out of his ass...
So far, the only people who have speculated publicly about such a move are Democrats. "Theyâll probably play Rudy heavier than any other part of the convention," former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo told the Associated Press last week. "So Rudy will go up and people will start talking about him replacing Cheney or him running for president. Itâll be very, very good for Rudy." Giuliani became a national star in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks that brought down the World Trade Center towers, killing almost 3,000 people. He became known as "Americaâs mayor." "Theyâll make the most of 9-11, the most of Rudy," Cuomo said. "He is now still iconic, you saw that in 9-11 and thatâs it," the Democrat added. "Heâs received a stature which is, for the time being, absolutely unshakable."
Giuliani has said he may return to elective politics as early as 2006 by running either for governor, should Pataki call it quits after three terms, or for U.S. Senate against Democratic incumbent Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the face of prostate cancer, Giuliani withdrew from the 2000 Senate race won by Clinton. By beating Clinton in 2006, Giuliani would not only position himself as a leading candidate for president in 2008, he would have eliminated the Democratsâ No. 1 contender. But itâs a risky proposition for Giuliani. If he canât topple the popular Democratic incumbent, his chances of becoming president, or even winning the nomination in 2008, would be slim indeed. There is little love lost between Pataki and Giuliani. Giuliani angered many Republicans in 1994 when he crossed party lines to endorse Cuomoâs bid for a fourth term. Pataki beat Cuomo in that election. The only potential political danger in replacing Cheney with Giuliani, said a source close to Bush, is that it would create problems with the presidentâs right flank. Giuliani is widely perceived as less conservative than Cheney, and by elevating him to front-runner in 2008, Bush could anger many conservatives. Giuliani is also being considered as a replacement for George Tenet as director of the Central Intelligence Agency. However, Bush appears to be in no rush to fill that slot. Itâs possible, one source said, it could be held open for Cheney. The GOP convention is being held Aug. 30-Sept. 2. Democrats are holding their convention in Boston at the end of July.
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as a non-US citizen Iâm not really concerned, but Iâd prefer Condy Rice
While I wouldn't mind Dr. Rice being VP, I wonder: between being a NSA, Secretary of State, or VP, which would best utilize Dr. Rice's talents and knowledge and put her in a good position for a later run for the top job?
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Ditto to what Jules said. Either one would be a HUGE boost to the ticket. I like Cheney but I think he comes off a bit like your principle in High School.
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2004 RWV has the idea - Have Condi and Cheney switch jobs. Cheney's health less stressed, while utilizing his knowledge and experience.
Would rather have somebody 20-yrs younger without health probs a "heartbeat away". Rudi to CIA-clean out the sludge of inefficency! Then between Condi and Rudi, who ever does the best job, gets the 2008 nod.
Even though it's cool personally to now have distant cousin Cheney as Veep, the switch would be a good idea.
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Condi has never served elected office. Rudi would capture NY and the center and provide a landslide for the Bush team. I think Powell would be a huge Vice President choice if he wanted the job.
Hell, Mayor Kotch has been a huge Bush supporter since 9/11, I'd be willing to give him a plum assignment. Same with Liberman, at least regarding the War on Terror. Either one would be nice replacements if Powell walks away from State.
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A little off the lineup--but Alan Keyes for SECSTATE. Can't imagine a more articulate defender of American principles, and a greater horror for all those State Dept buro-weenies.
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I can see Hill tearing her hair out already. Her plan is to start in '08 with more national exposure than her non-incumbent opponent... And while social conservatives would be hard-pressed to take Rudy in a normal election, if it's a matter of keeping the Clintons out, well then...
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Alan Keys, Secy of State? ... is so articulate and direct on so many issues, he would befuddle the shit out of those lifetime bureaucrats at the State Dept.
I am a pro-choice Republican, so I disagree there, but his clear mind in the foreign policy venue would certainly be interesting to watch.
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Rudy would not win New York for the Republicans. People here in NYC pretty much hated him until after Sept. 11, and people upstate hated him because they hate NYC. Also, it's NYC, Long Island and Westchester County that carry the most weight because that's where most of the population of the state is. And they almost always vote Democrat.
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They hated him so much they elected him mayor twice, eh, growler?
Bah. Anything Mario Cuomo is sure of is bound to be wrong.
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I like the idea of Keyes in State.
And Growler, you might be right, I'm on the wrong coast to really know but Mitch H makes a good point and Guiliani was very popular after 9/11. Very popular. My guess is Bloomberg has managed to make Guiliani look better and better.
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Perhaps Rudy's methods weren't as hated in the other boroughs, but much of Manhattan despised him.
Anyways, Rudy lost his first campaign for mayor to David Dinkins. After suffering under that incompetent, useless mayor, it was easy for Rudy to win against him in '93.
In '97 Rudy ran against Ruth Messinger. This is from an old Slate piece on her:
"The problem with this is that Messinger has a history of beliefs that look rather embarrassing in retrospect. In 1979, while a member of the City Council, she hosted a coming-out-of-jail cocktail party for John R. Hill, who had murdered a corrections officer on the first day of the Attica riots. In 1984, she returned from a trip to Sandinista-led Nicaragua to assert that women there "participated in everything" and were "ready to die for this freedom."
In the City Council, Messinger was generally considered a staunch voice for tenants, for children, for the homeless and the poor. In the mid-1980s, she proposed extending rent control from individuals to businesses, a suggestion very few real-estate developers have forgotten. In 1981, she endorsed Frank Barbaro, about the closest thing the city has recently had to a Democratic Socialist candidate for mayor. She consistently argued for more spending, even as it was becoming clear that the Wall Street boom of the '80s was flattening out....
Crime, and a broad sense of civic disorder, probably had more to do with Dinkins' defeat than spending did. But Messinger, like Dinkins, cannot find a way of sounding convincing when she deplores crime--she has spent too many years thinking about it as a civil-rights and civil-liberties issue. Nor can she bring herself to say that Giuliani was right about the merits of arresting low-level offenders and cracking down on "quality-of-life" violations."
If you lived in NYC anywhere from the '70s to the '80s, you would've been sick to death of the tax-and-spend Democrats who let crime run rampant. Rudy was seen as a reformer who cleaned up the streets. No way was NYC going to elect a far-left Dem. over him, esp. if it would be the first woman mayor of NYC.
Also, voter turnout that year was about 38%. Everyone figured Rudy would win, or they didn't care, so they stayed home.
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I'd rather the "Progressive Caucus" stay true to their hateful ways than lie through their teeth like Pelosi and Tom Thumb
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I heard on the radio that there are some groups that plan on prtotesting at the state funeral. Maybe the 'progressives' are planning to attend that event? I hope that the Capital police have their batons ready to crack some 'progressive' skulls.
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They better hope they don't get in front of me! Hmmm...maybe I'll put stinky water in a water bottle so I can spray them with it just in case....heh..heh...
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This shows to me how truly irrelevant the Dimorat party has become. It's best and only theme is hate the Republicans no matter what. Agenda? What agenda. They are mindless psychopaths.
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I heard on the radio that there are some groups that plan on prtotesting at the state funeral.
Protesters at a funeral?? Sheesh. I sure hope for their sake that they come to their senses and decide not to go through with it.
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I welcome this news. I'd rather not watch the hypocritical display of sadness and mourning on their behalf. Seeing Kerry do it was nauseating enough. Save your crocodile tears, Dems.
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Suits the hell out of me. Stay away, you inconsequetial, worthless losers.
Bill Nelson: Agreed.
Cyber Sarge: Just when you think it's impossible for the LLL to sink any lower, they call for a backhoe. They hated Reagan and all he stood for, and now they're going to protest that he's dead? The mind boggles.
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Could be they know that they are not wanted and that if they were to try protesting that the police would turn a blind eye while they were beaten to within an inch of their lives.
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Local news tonight reported Teddy Kennedy won't be there Friday. Something about a family graduation party.
A Kennedy graduation party? Oooooohh, the humanity!
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Beautiful footage on Fox News right now of the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) steaming into Rio de Janeiro. I hope Ronnie was able to understand and appreciate the massive new carrier named for him. F'ing Alzheimer's...
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9/11: Reaganâs fault? CBS was first out of the blocks Monday night with a story on âblemishesâ in Ronald Reaganâs record as President, but instead of an even-handed review of Iran/Contra, Dan Rather and Bill Plante painted it in the most ominous light, implying that it somehow led to âthe rise of Islamic fundamentalism.â Rather asked: âIs or is not America still paying a price for whatâs called the Iran/Contra debacle?â Plante answered in the affirmative: âAn arms control agreement with the Soviet Union refurbished President Reaganâs image, but U.S. efforts to deal with the tough issues in the Middle East went on hold, helping to set the stage for the first Iraq war and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism.â Plante justified his conclusion by claiming Iran/Contra meant that ârelations with Iran deteriorated furtherâ and âIraq, which the Reagan administration had backed in its war against Iran, went on to use chemical weapons in 1988 with little protest from the U.S.â So the 9/11 terrorist attack on the U.S. AND Saddam Hussein using chemical weapons are both Reaganâs fault?
Before an ad break on the June 7 CBS Evening News, Rather plugged the upcoming âReality Checkâ on Reaganâs legacy: âStraight ahead now on the CBS Evening News, President Reagan and the missiles-for-Iran deal. Is or is not America still paying a price for whatâs called the Iran/Contra debacle?â Rather set up the subsequent story: âRonald Reagan was and is one of the most popular Presidents in U.S. history, and with good reason: He accomplished a lot. That does not mean his record is without questions and, in fact, blemishes. Tonight, CBSâs Bill Plante, who covered the Reagan White House, begins a week-long series assessing the Reagan legacy.â
Plante began: âThe most serious crisis of Ronald Reaganâs two terms, and the lowest point in his popularity, came after the revelation that his administration had secretly sold arms to Iran and turned over the profits to rebels fighting the Marxist government of Nicaragua.â
Plante, in Reagan era press conference: âDid you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?â
Ronald Reagan: âNo, and Iâm not taking any more questions-â
Plante: âReaganâs national security staff approached Iran in an effort to free American hostages being held in Lebanon, despite a vow that the administration would never negotiate with terrorists. At first, President Reagan denied that it had happened.â
Reagan, in November 13, 1986 speech from Oval Office: âWe did not, repeat, did not trade weapons, or anything else, for hostages.â
Plante: âBut two investigations showed that Mr. Reagan had, in fact, signed off on the weapons shipments, and in early 1987 he reversed his denial.â
Edmund Morris, Reagan biographer, clip #1: âIt is, without question, a crisis brought through his own fault.â
Morris, clip #2: âAnd the public perceived him, therefore, as somebody who couldnât see his own actions in a negative light.â
Plante: âThe fallout was severe, softened only by the Presidentâs willingness to accept personal responsibility.â
Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor: âPresident Reagan understood that this had happened in his administration. He was straightforward in having it investigated by the Tower Commission, they made changes. And thatâs the way that we have to deal with any difficulties.â
Plante: âThe Presidentâs full disclosure at home, however, didnât salvage U.S. policy in the Middle East. Relations with Iran deteriorated further. Iraq, which the Reagan administration had backed in its war against Iran, went on to use chemical weapons in 1988 with little protest from the U.S.â
Jon Alterman, Mideast analyst: âWhen it came time to really having partnerships and policies that move forward in the Middle East, there wasnât a lot positive happening on the ground.â
Plante concluded: âAn arms control agreement with the Soviet Union refurbished President Reaganâs image, but U.S. efforts to deal with the tough issues in the Middle East went on hold, helping to set the stage for the first Iraq war and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. Bill Plante, CBS News.â
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7 Degrees of separation... the backbone of all good conspiracies. If they can only hold your attention long enough, the connection of anything to anyone can be established.
I think 9/11 actualy was rooted in an event in NYC back in 1965 when William Paley, CEO and Flounder (L intentional) of CBS decided, on a whim mind you, to go see the Rockettes. You see there was this long-stem lady he use to engage on Tuesdays between the noon and 4 PM shows whose uncle used a dry cleaner who had a car with a broken gas gauge and the Saudi gas would run out, pissing him off - so he write a letter to King Abdul Aziz and tells him to kiss my hairy ass you Wahhabi goat-fucker, but the King couldn't read it and one of his sons, the crazy fucker called Nayef who used to set cats on fire and kick puppies and baby ducks decided he wanted to translate it. He's been really really pissed ever since, so when this really really sick fuck named Osama bin Laden came to his attention, well, he figured it was payback time.
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Damnit, .com, you left out the black helicopters, the Illuminati, Lee Harvey Oswald, the Hapsburg restorationists, the little green men in Roswell, the secret Irish Catholic demographic conspiracy for world domination, and the fluoride in our water. And you call yourself a conspiracy theorist? Hah!
(Just kidding, of course!)
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The only "blemish" that could even be remotely connected to 9/11/2001 is the pullout following the Marine barracks bombing, and that's only one event out of many that convinced Binny that we didn't have the stomach for a fight. Iran-contra was just a sideshow.
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I haven't had much use for CBS since I realized that Walter Cronkite shamelessly abused his position as "the most trusted man in America" to shill for the Democrats. He was the best they had. It's been all downhill since.
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personally i did not see a problem with iran/contra deal...we rippped off the iranians for millions, which allowed them to kill bathists, gave the money to anti-marxist rebels which helped boot the sandinista's from power and had our people released...and remember the majority of hostages were taken before and not after this deal....
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If it wasn't for JAG I would not watch CBS at all.
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Dan-
Righto! We encouraged Iraq and Iran to take out their expansionist bloodthirst on each other instead of decimating the rest of the ME. Darn smart realpolitik at it's best.
This is a photo of the Los Angelea (sic) County Fire Department salute along with members of the public as the hearse carrying the body of former President Ronald Reagan head up the 118 Ronald Reagan Freeway in Simi Valley, Calif., Monday, June 7, 2004. Reaganâs body was being taken to lie in state at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, Calif.
I do not if this has been posted yet. I have been away for a few days. It is worth a look.
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Okay. I put this on page two and it dropped it on page one. This is not the first time this has happened. What gives?
This just disgust me to know end!! I just wanna punch this C$%@Sucker in the face!!
What would Ronnie think of this? What a coward this east coast gigolo is....
All of these people wait in line and he ends up there to put on some political show!
How dare this commie show his face there.
Read this crap, but have a barf bag handy!
SIMI VALLEY, Calif. â John Kerry (search) paused for a moment of silent reflection before the flag-draped casket of former President Reagan (search) on Tuesday, a brief appearance in a national spotlight that suddenly has shifted from politics and the Democratic presidential candidate. He cut in line while 1000âs of real Americans waited
"Don't you know who I am?"
Head bowed, eyes closed and hands clasped in front, the Massachusetts senator stood for about a minute to pay his respects to Reagan, the Republican icon who died Saturday and whose body lay in repose at the presidential library. I am gonna hurl!!
Kerry, a Roman Catholic, made the sign of the cross and quietly recited the accompanying prayer before departing.
Like other dignitaries, Kerry did not have to wait hours with tens of thousands of mourners; an exception was made for the candidate and his visit lasted about 20 minutes. I wanna know who gave this asshole permission to cut inline?
Traveling to California to attend his daughterâs graduation from film school, Kerry decided to make a last-minute trip to the library in Simi Valley, a community northwest of Los Angeles. Aboard his campaign plane, Kerry spoke to reporters about Reagan, the current White House occupant â President Bush (search) â and Bushâs father. Speaking of tramps, when does her playboy spread come out?
"I didnât agree with a lot of the things he was doing, obviously," Kerry said of Reagan, whom he called a "very likable guy." But he added that he got along well with the Republican, was able to work with him and visited the White House a number of times during his two terms. "I met with Reagan a lot more than Iâve met with this president," Kerry said. What an Asshole!!
The Democrat also said he had more meetings with George H.W. Bush during his one term than he has had with President Bush. "I liked his father very much. I like his dad. Heâs a very good guy. He used to write notes. I have a number of notes from him. Heâs very thoughtful," Kerry said. What kind of BS is this Asshole trying to pass!!
Kerry suspended campaign activities this week in deference to Reagan. The presumptive Democratic nominee said he first took note of Reagan in the 1960s, a time when some were wary of the California Republican. "He got your notice," Kerry said. He praised Reaganâs 1964 speech for Barry Goldwater, calling it "better than anything else you heard from the campaign."
Kerryâs rival, President Bush, will deliver the eulogy for the 40th president during a state funeral Friday at Washingtonâs National Cathedral. Kerry will be one of dozens of notables attending the service, a face in the political crowd.
In suspending his overt political activities, Kerry risks losing momentum with voters just as Bushâs popularity is at its most vulnerable. To do anything else, however, would appear unseemly amid the outpouring of praise for a president remembered for bridging political divisions. "Campaigning is campaigning, regardless of where you are and what youâre doing," said Stephanie Cutter, the Democratâs spokeswoman. "Out of respect for President Reagan and his family, he felt canceling those campaign events was the right thing to do." Wait a minute, you donât really expect us to believe this bull do you? What an Asshole and Asshole-ette
Marc Kruman, chairman of the Wayne State University Department of History in Detroit, said nobody outside Washington will fault Kerry for taking a week off the campaign trail. "It strikes me as a wise decision. Heâs not going to get any national political attention and it shows his respect for President Reagan, which is appropriate this week," said Kruman, an expert in the history of presidential elections. Now I am really getting pissed off here!!
These are political calculations, happens all the time, both sides do this. I wouldn't worry.
Kerry aides, already split over whether to cancel the weekâs schedule, remain divided over how soon to renew campaigning. Other Democrats applauded Kerryâs decision to set politics aside, though some privately complained that he didnât at least schedule a few non-partisan events in battleground states that could have gained him some local media notice. Nobody is showing up for this asshole anyway so why not ride the tide of a true American death you assholes!
Once again enjoying the advantages of an incumbent, Bush can go about the business of the president without fear of appearing insensitive. By attending D-Day ceremonies in France, hosting world leaders for the the Group of Eight summit and euologizing a GOP icon, Bush takes center stage for a week, unchallenged by Kerry or his immediate surrogates. "Look, the president is the president and this is part of the, if not luxury, the advantage of being the sitting president," Democratic strategist Tricia Enright said. "It appears the Kerry campaign is taking that into account and altering its course."
With political events stripped from his schedule, Kerry and his top advisers were getting behind-the-scenes work accomplished in Washington. Bush advisers, meanwhile, insisted that they werenât trying to compare Bush to Reagan for political gain, even as they did so. "This week weâre focused on paying tribute to him. We will leave it to other people to try to draw contrasts or parallels or similarities," White House communications director Dan Bartlett told CNN. Ok, the above qoute is enough to make you puke right now. But it is almost over so hold it back!!
A day earlier, Bush campaign chairman Ken Mehlman posted a tribute to Reagan on the campaignâs blog that made several comparisons, including: "Just like President Reagan, President George W. Bush speaks with moral clarity about the enemies of freedom." Campaign officials said Mehlmanâs letter was intended for distribution to his staff. A version posted on the campaignâs official Web Site did not include the comparison, only praise of the former president.
Democrats used Reaganâs memory to take subtle digs at Bush. "There are those who donât seem to be as willing to compromise as President Reagan was" and as a result, things havenât been achieved "that were within our reach," said Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D. Asked to compare Reagan to Bush, he said: "This administration has a harder time finding middle ground ... and thatâs unfortunate." If this article did not make you wanna puke or break something that you wished was sKerry Kerryâs neck, then please go now to www.georgebush.com and give the man $50.
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Dang it Fred, I swear I said page2....can you change it please...
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OS - Mormons who don't follow the teachings are derisively called Jack-Mormons - no offence to Jack(s) out there. What's the really good snarky Catholic equivalent? Surely you guys have one! Something like Cathys? If there isn't one, you need to coin a phrase, making it really an insider sort of thing, cuz we have a Loonie Left Catholic component who has been given mucho sympathetic press - they all need a solid come-uppance!
My Grandfather always said, "An honest man always keeps the paperwork current." Meaning if you wanna fool around, get a divorce first. If you're not really a [insert noun here], then be man enough to make it official. Kerry, Pelosi, et al are cowards and hypocrites.
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'Liberation theology' was and still is primarily a Catholic movement ... we've heard less of them lately compared to the 70s-80s, but they are still strong in many places.
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.com, there's always Matthew Fox ... Google "techno-cosmic Masses", I'm serious :P
Or Cardinal Bernardin ... McCarrick's an "eh", but Sean O'Malley seems like the type who's orthodox and just doesn't want to get caught at it ... (although he said that preaching the Word > public relations)
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Archbishop Burke (St. Louis) is a definite "ortho", Cardinal Mahoney of LA is a confirmed wacko (maybe that's why Mel Gibson set up Holy Family in Malibu, to be outside of his clutches?), and the jury's still out on Edward Cardinal Egan ...
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Ditto for Denver's -- whoever that is.
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EY - So do you have a nifty insider-styled term for Catholics who don't practice Catholicism as promulgated by the Holy See? Sorry - I don't know how else to put it - I'm not a Catholic and don't know diddley-squat - so I just parroted a line I'd read or heard somewhere, lol!
But do you? "Ortho" and "Wacko" do not get a "A" for spiffiness, IMHO!
CathoLibs? Sorry! You guys have to be better at this than me!
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Once again enjoying the advantages of an incumbent, Bush can go about the business of the president without fear of appearing insensitive.
I can't believe that this came from fox news. Does anyone else read a subtle implication here? I can't pin it down, but it almost makes President Bush look opportunistic, like, " Wow, what a stroke of luck! President Reagan's passing has put Kerry's campaign into a holding pattern, but I may be able to score a few points before he kicks in again. I mean, nobody would expect the President to stop working even after the death of Ronald Reagan."
Maybe I'm listening to too much Laura Ingraham lately, but the tone of that statement sounded a little catty. Anyone's thoughts?
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"I met with Reagan a lot more than Iâve met with this president," Kerry said.
Maybe that's because sKerry was in DC a lot more than the past two years! He's just about as bad as being absent for votes and business as my soon to be ex-nonsenator Edwards!
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So do you have a nifty insider-styled term for Catholics who don't practice Catholicism as promulgated by the Holy See?
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I waited for hours to see Reagan before finally giving up. I also loath Kerry. Still I have no problem with his cutting in line for a couple of reasons. First it would be a secret service nightmare to have him stuck in an unmoving vehicle for 4 hours and then wait for the parking shuttle for another 4 something hours. Second, a big part of the wait was for parking, and I assume Kerry's car didn't part, but kept moving while he did his visit. What bugs me is that he'll probably visit Reagan on the East Coast as well, just to make sure he maximizes the publicity.
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im take it lhr not voting skerry. :p
im agree yank on lurch cutting in line. article is also say other dignitaries are do that as well so it not just skerry. also skerrys daughter shuld be leave out of it as well as bush kids. come think of it im not know if nader is have any kids.
Had I been in line, I would have been quite... vocal about this prick cutting into the line. Prick prick prick.
I expect his poll numbers to take a severe dive after this stunt.
Prick.
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So do you have a nifty insider-styled term for Catholics who don't practice Catholicism as promulgated by the Holy See?
I'm protestant: not an insider; but I'd call them nominal Catholics. I'd use lapsed Catholic for those who show up for mass as often as Kerry shows up to vote. Hmm. Could we call him "lapsed Senator Kerry?"
I agree with Yank--have mercy on the Secret Service and let Kerry cut in line.
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Yank etc.
I must disagree. Sure I think the Secret Service has a job to do, but Kerry doesn't belong there in the first place. To say that you're having mercy on the hard-working security means that you're not questioning Hanoi John's attendance in the first place.
Consider: Was Bob Dole there? Newt Gingrich? Clarence Thomas? GW Bush? Jeb Bush? Arnold Schwarzenegger? John McCain? Rudy Guiliani? Gerald Ford? Bob Bennett? Lamar Alexander? Bill Frist? Kay Hutchinson? Trent Lott? Dick Lugar? Arlen Specter? etc etc etc etc....
Some were, I'm sure, but most were not. Why, you axe? Because they did not want to spoil a public viewing by having to cut in line for security reasons, and/or they didn't want to have their own interference into an affair designed for John Q. Public to spoil the proceedings.
Kerry had no business being there and his appearence can only hurt him. And it will.
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"made the sign of the cross and quietly recited the accompanying prayer"
Once again proving the press has no clue when it comes to religion, particularly Christianity. What "accompanying prayer"? Did he say an "Our Father" or a "Hail, Mary" or a "Gloria Patri"? It's common for mourners to say a rosary while in the funeral home, but Kerry was not there long enough to do that.
Also, Reagan wasn't a Catholic, so WTF is Kerry doing saying a prayer for him? If it was a prayer for the dead, that was wrong because most likely if Reagan was even a nominal Christian, he didn't believe in Purgatory or the need to pray for the dead.
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Catholics have long had a word for Kerry's ilk, whose obstinate refusal to adhere to dogma and misrepresentation of Catholic teachings leads souls into harm's way. HERETIC. Not spiffy, but accurate.
What I do NOT get is why someone would continue to call themselves X when they no longer practice the doctrine of X and even openly dispute those who are officially designated to explain X to the lay person by the keeper and ultimate authority of the X doctrine.
Boggles. And I know the numbers, etc. and perceived political advantage, etc, - I get that, but the danger of the opposite occurring because true adherents recognize the obvious hypocrisy seems to more than negate imagined advantages.
So the Skeery Heretic goes for the photo-op at the viewing of the casket of a man who would genially spit in his eye, if the opportunity presented itself.
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#22 That reminds me of the time my Western Civ teacher in High School asked the class "What name do the Catholics give the Reformation?"
Being a snarky Catholic, my answer was "The Great Heresy!"
(Real answer: The Protestant Revolt)
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Hanoi John makes me want to destroy my TV everytime I see his traitorous face. He said a prayer. What a fu-_ing joke my ass. He was there long enough for his precious phot op. This man has no moral backbone whatsoever. He is as transparent as Clinton was on his trips to Normandy D-Day remeberances in years past. Hanoi John is a traitorous scum bag who will be remembered for what he really is. an opportunistic politician who used his war service and his fellow vets as a jumping board dishonorably to gain public office. This fall election will shock a lot of the liberal left with the magnitude of Dubya's vote margin.
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What's the really good snarky Catholic equivalent?
"Easter Catholics" (that's the only time they show up).
They pick and choose what part of the religion they act on.
And they are officially *NOT* in communion with the Church and should not consider themselves eligible for Holy Eucharist, and shoudl nto present themselves for Eucharist during that part of the Mass, until they have genuinely confessed and are repentant.
The Zimbabwe Government has banned all private land ownership and will nationalise all farmland and privately-owned game parks. The move has been described as the "single biggest shock" of President Robert Mugabe's rule since independence from Britain in 1980. "This has effectively turned back the clock and put Zimbabwe back into the centuries-old feudal economic systems which benefited the kings and their aristocrats and impoverished the poor," said prominent Zimbabwean economist John Robertson.
"This land is Bob's land, that land is Bob's land, from the jungle forests, to the Lake Kariba waters! This land was made for Bob and....Bob."
In an announcement in the state-owned Herald newspaper, John Nkomo, the Special Affairs Minister in the President's office in charge of Land Reform and Resettlement, ordered all private landowners to give up their land to the Government immediately. He said they could then apply to the Government for permission to lease the land. He did not say when the nationalisation process would be completed. "In the end all land shall be state land and there will be no such thing called private land," Nkomo said. "It will now be the state which will enable the utilisation of the land for national prosperity."
One State Under Bob
Title deeds for all land now being nationalised and appropriated by the state would have 99-year leases, he said. Leases on the predominantly white-owned private game parks would be limited to 25 years to allow many more black people to partake in the lucrative sector. The Zimbabwe Government has been seizing all white-owned farms and re-allocating them to blacks to promote private ownership of land by blacks, previously disadvantaged by colonial era policies. The latest move means even those blacks have now been deprived of their private ownership of land, as all land will now be owned by the state.
That should be....interesting
"Effectively, this means it is no longer possible for any person to use land or any building on that land - be it a house or factory - as collateral to borrow money from banks as it is classified as state land," said a Government economist, speaking on condition of anonymity. "There is no better and quicker way of destroying an economy. I frankly don't know who advised them on this unacceptable step."
Bob may be channeling the spirits of Joe Stalin and Chairman Mao.
Robertson said the move would effectively stop any new foreign investment in Zimbabwe. It would also freeze all economic growth, as no one would have collateral to borrow money and develop their business. Nkomo disputed that, saying the people approved as leaseholders could use the 99-year leases as collateral. But Robertson said: "A lease has no collateral or market value. A lease means you don't own the property and no bank can regard something you don't own as collateral. "The figure 99 years is totally irrelevant because you still don't own the property."
What do you need property for when Bob is there to take care of you?
The decision to nationalise all land is being seen as the final nail in the coffins of all 4000-plus white farmers whose land had already been seized but had been hoping to somehow get it back. The remaining white farmers, estimated at fewer than 400, would have to give up their land with no hope of getting it back. It is highly unlikely that Mugabe would consider giving leases to white farmers since he has been compulsorily taking their land and driving them out of the country. The move also means the legal process of serving notices of acquisition of properties on farmers is no longer necessary as they simply forfeit their land to the state.
Saves all that messy paperwork
A farmer who was last week served with a notice for the compulsory seizure of his farm said he had given up all hope. "It would be plain futile for me to even contemplate trying to fight for my rights now. The reasonable thing for me is to leave this country and start elsewhere before I am caught in the next storm of Mugabe madness. If they can do this thing in this day and age, what can stop them from announcing they are seizing my refrigerator, and then my stove and in the end my wife ... "
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Bob sez: "Welcome to Starvation Island. Population: YOU."
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Steve, you forgot, "In Bob, we trust...or else"
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Time for anybody who likes to eat to pack up and leave. And burn your house before you go. Gotta clear up room on the land for the "war veterans", you know.
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what good is a 99yr lease issued by a Gov't that on a whim takes all privately held land? Like a "lease" would stop them during the next round...
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Frank---do not read logic into an illogical situation. Like Spock sez, that is not logical. Methinks that the goose has just about been squeezed of all its golden eggs. And the great nation of South Africa sits by and lets this whole thing go down. So much for kumbaya.....
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So what about those farmers who have already borrowed against their land? Somehow I doubt billy-bob will honor their liens when the banks start calling....
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I pledge allegence to the Chief,
and of the tribe for which he stands,
One wasteland, under Bob, confiscateable,
With all proceeds deliv'rable to him.
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I'm reading a piece here from the Cape Times. Sounds like it has more to do with Bob and his cronies getting in on the game park action. I guess they've now figured out that there is actual hard work involved with farming... So the new low hanging fruit is the "lucrative game sector". (At $50M/year it's only lucrative in race to the bottom Zimbabwe terms.) Bob probably threw the farm land into the mix so he can skip the niceties of the current expropriation program. There are still almost 400 white farmers left after all. These folks have got to be tougher and more stubborn than all the "war veterans" looking to do a bit of farming. (Note to State Department: Offer immigrant visa program to Zim farmers.) Bob may also want to reallocate some of the land he's already handed out.
Couldn't help but notice this paragraph on the game situation:
The army is involved in a lot of the poaching. We are getting reports of (soldiers) using landmines to kill hippos for meat near Binga (on Lake Kariba). There are trophy-hunters coming in with no legal quotas. Three Americans recently shot 38 trophies without proper permits."
Shipman, were you involved with that hunting party? I mean the permit free trophy bagging one, not the landmines for hippo one.
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Let's see if Bob can figure out what donor fatigue really means. When he and his cronies have expelled, murdered, or starved all the productive people and there's no one left but Friends of Bob, to whom will they look for food when their money runs out. No one, not even the loony left will lift a finger to help as they drop the final few millimeters into savagery. When there's no one left to fight but each other and nothing left to eat but each other, there will be no one to help. No white NGOs running to feed them, no UN agency running to loan them money. Just a world waiting for them to die. No sane white person will ever set foot in that land until Mugabe and his followers are all dead. I think a lot of Zimbabweans wished they were living in Rhodesia and that Mugabe had never been born.
DAN Rather and Tom Brokaw work for dif ferent networks but agree one thing â coverage of Ronald Reagan's death has been excessive, they say. "Even though everybody is respectful and wants to pay homage to the president, life does go on," Rather told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "There is other news, like the reality of horrible, terrible, awful tragedy of Iraq," said the "CBS Evening News" anchor. "It got very short shrift this weekend."
Not as short as when there's only good news to report from there.
"Once the herd starts moving in one direction, it's very hard to turn it, even slightly," Rather said. "Nationally, the herd has grown tremendously." "I think just about everything is over-covered these days," said Brokaw, who anchors the "NBC Nightly News." "The spectrum is so crowded. With all the cable networks, it begins to have a 'video wall' feeling to it." Jennings said he had mixed feelings about the Reagan coverage."I'm more inclined to spare coverage â come on [the air], do something meaningful, then get away," he said. "The last time I had to do it was with O.J. Simpson [during the 1994 car chase], and I had nothing to say after a certain period of time."
I have no trouble believing that.
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"Once the herd starts moving in one direction, it's very hard to turn it, even slightly," Rather said. "Nationally, the herd has grown tremendously."
This from the Hindmost himself.
"I think just about everything is over-covered these days," said Brokaw, who anchors the "NBC Nightly News." "The spectrum is so crowded. With all the cable networks, it begins to have a 'video wall' feeling to it."
Why didn't we hear quotes like this during the Abu Ghraib circle jerk?
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I know your question was rhetorical, Robert, but I'll answer it anyway: Because it didn't serve the leftist media's main purpose, which is to bring about the defeat of America, and to turn it into another whiney Europe.
Of course, neither does coverage reminding people of Reagan and his beliefs and accomplishments.
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Did Rather ever figure out what the frequency was after that nutbag punched him out a couple of years ago?
From New York Post via Drudge.... DAN Rather and Tom Brokaw work for dif ferent networks but agree one thing â coverage of Ronald Reaganâs death has been excessive, they say. Yeah! Lets get back to soddomizing that prisoner abuse dead horse again!
"Even though everybody is respectful and wants to pay homage to the president, life does go on," Rather told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "There is other news, like the reality of Iraq," said the "CBS Evening News" anchor. "It got very short shrift this weekend." So when has CBS given the Reality of Iraq??? Or the murder and genocide which is happening right now in western Sudan? Or the church burning in Indonesia? Or....
Networks have been going almost wall-to-wall with coverage since Reagan passed away Saturday at the age of 93. The former president was diagnosed with Alzheimerâs disease nearly 10 years ago. "Once the herd starts moving in one direction, itâs very hard to turn it, even slightly," Rather said. "Nationally, the herd has grown tremendously."
"I think just about everything is over-covered these days," said Brokaw, who anchors the "NBC Nightly News." "The spectrum is so crowded. With all the cable networks, it begins to have a âvideo wallâ feeling to it." Guess who is losing viewers to ârealâ news like FOX???
Jennings said he had mixed feelings about the Reagan coverage. We canât blame it on Bush!
"Iâm more inclined to spare coverage â come on [the air], do something meaningful, then get away," he said. Like Jennings unabashed wall-to-wall over-the-top coverage of the prisoner abuse? Or his deafing silence on the Sudan Genocide/Ethnic Clensing ? OR his....
"The last time I had to do it was with 9/11 CommissonPrisioner Abuse O.J. Simpson [during the 1994 car chase], and I had nothing to say after a certain period of time." Coverage of Reaganâs death will continue through Fridayâs funeral on all the news networks (broadcast and cable).
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CF: Thanks for posting this. Saw this earlier and simply could not believe it. These A-Holes make me want to puke. They're being dragged kicking and screaming into covering this because the majority of America cares. They just can't wait to get back to spoon feeding us their propoganda. If the second coming happened next week no doubt they would roll their eyes and whine about how it was interfering with the important events of the day - namely QUAGMIRE!
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They have a point. We should get our coverage back to the more meaningful issues. Like J-Lo's newest husband, Janet's nipple, who Madonna is tonguing this week, or Paris's latest sex video. After all, liberating millions of Eastern Europeans from Communism and ending the threat of global thermonuclear war just isn't as interesting or sexy as Britney's midriff.
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Hey Dan, Tom, Peter....
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Amen Sam!
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Remind me again how long they covered the search for Kennedy, Jr., or the election of 2000, or Nixon's proceedings . . .
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I'm looking right now at the Fox coverage - and there's Pelosi and Kennedy standing in the Rotunda as the casket is about to be brought in. They have their hands over the place where their hearts are supposed to be.
From Mukto-Mano Secular News
Mukto-mona is pleased to announce that Dr Younus Shaikh, a 45 years old medical doctor, renowned rationalist and founder-President of the Pakistan based organization âEnlightenmentâ who was in the prison under sentence of death for blasphemy since August 2001, has been acquitted and freed after an appeal and retrial. He was accused of defying the Prophet Muhammad by stating that the Prophet did not become a Muslim till the age of 40 (i.e. until he received the first message from God) and the Prophetâs parents were non-Muslims because they died before Islam existed.
For the past couple of years years Mukto-mona has been conducting an international campaign with IHEU, Rationalist International and with Bangladeshi intellectuals, Rationalists and humanists and other Human Rights activists to ensure the release of Dr. Shaikh. .... Those accused of blasphemy under Article 295/C of the Pakistan Penal Code are unable to obtain bail and are held in custody awaiting trial. If pronounced guilty, they face a mandatory death sentence. The trial of Dr Shaikh, held throughout the summer of 2001, took place in a hostile courtroom packed with Islamic fundamentalists who warned the defence lawyers: âthink of your families and childrenâ. The final two sessions were held in-camera with gun-toting Pakistani Taliban waiting outside. It was finally established during the trial that the alleged events had never taken place. Nevertheless, on 18th August 2001, Dr Shaikh was found guilty and sentenced to death. Sadly, in Pakistan, such injustices are not uncommon in cases of alleged blasphemy.
For the next two years, Dr Shaikh was held in solitary confinement in a death cell in the Central Gaol in Rawalpindi. He appealed to the High Court but the two appeal court judges failed to agree. On 15th July 2002 the case was referred to a senior judge for a final decision. A delay of more than a year then ensued before the referee judge took up the case. On October 9th 2003, this judge finally decided that the original judgement was unsound but instead of acquitting Dr Shaikh, remanded the case back to a lower court for retrial. The retrial was held over three sessions in November 2003. In the light of the harassment and intimidation suffered by his lawyers at the earlier hearings, and much against the advice of the judge, his colleagues, his family and the members of the diplomatic community present in court, Dr Shaikh decided this time to conduct his own defence. The prosecuting counsel tried to exploit the religious feelings of the court but Dr Shaikh confined his defence to legal arguments and was finally acquitted on 21st November. He tells us that he was inspired by the defence speech of Sir Thomas More in âA Man for All Seasonsâ. Fortunately for Dr Shaikh the outcome this time was different. Commenting on the judgement, Dr Shaikh explained: âThe judge accepted my legal arguments and found the charges against me to be baseless. My accusers, two Mullahs and some Islamist students, had lied.â He described his ordeal as: âIslamic terrorism through the abuse of law and of the state apparatus.â
Dr Shaikh was released from the gaol in great secrecy, was offered, but refused, a police bodyguard, and went into hiding for several weeks, meeting family and friends and even participating, incognito, in a debate on Human Rights. He has now left Pakistan for Europe. Many victims of the Pakistani blasphemy laws have failed to survive prison, and a number of those tried and acquitted have been murdered following their release. examples follow
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From the Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society, a book review by Irfan Khawaja, adjunct professor of philosophy at The College of New Jersey, and lecturer in politics at Princeton University.
Along with perhaps a million other people, Iâve recently been reading Irshad Manjiâs book The Trouble With Islam, a snappy little critique of contemporary Islam (and non-contemporary Islam) written from a heterodox Muslim perspective. .... I liked Manjiâs book quite a lot while disagreeing vehemently with parts of it. Whatever its flaws, the book is well-written and well worth reading.
Being the diligent reviewer that I am, I was obliged to read all of the other reviews of Manjiâs book, if only to ensure that I didnât end up re-inventing the criticâs equivalent of the wheel while writing my own. The negative reviews, Muslim and non-Muslim, are an instructive mix of legitimate criticism, total nonsense, and outright denial. The latter two categories include some real doozies, but surfing Manjiâs website the other day, I happened on a review of the book in The Nation (Lahore, Pakistan) by columnist Farrukh Khan Pitafi that pretty much takes the cake. .... Khawajaâs detailed criticism of Pitafiâs review.
The sheer blustering incompetence of it would only be worth ignoring if it didnât appear in a major newspaper in a major Pakistani city-in Lahore, supposedly the cultural and intellectual capital of Pakistan (and I might add, my familyâs hometown). There should be something disconcerting about the fact that a location like that should produce trash like this. ... Pakistan suffers from a bit of censorship, but it is censorship of a fairly porous and sporadic variety. So the failure here is as much a matter of censorship as it is a matter of intellectual integrity. Saturated in arrogance but incapable of producing arguments worthy of junior high school, the Pitafis of the Pakistani intellectual scene (and not all of them, I should add, live or work in Pakistan) seek, desperately, "not for objections and difficulties," but for confirmations of their prejudicesconfirmations that function as proxies for genuine knowledge. The sheer hostility with which they express themselvesand their ineptitude even at thatis an indication not of genuine conviction, but of the chronic self-doubt that characteristically accompanies fideism. ...
The question, ultimately, is less what the Pitafis of the world think than who will succeed them. The nightmare of being replaced in public esteem by a "lecherous" lesbian ijtihadi is perhaps more than such brittle souls can endure. All the more reason to make the nightmare a reality. One personâs nightmare, after all, is another personâs agenda. In this light, whatever my criticisms, Iâm delighted to say that the Manji phenomenon could well be a nightmare come true.
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ima say it before but worth repeating;
im love this woman! im just wory becuz she is have alot of death threats and is need our prayers. you all are want a muslim spek out against problems with islam? she has and she may be kill over it. if you havent yet you are shuld read her book and learn about ijtihad. as for her be lesbian im wish i had chance to set her strait. :)
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One of the bravest women in our times. She could really end up being a cultural hero to other Muslims, even men, AS LONG AS Muslims actually move to change what isn't working with their society.
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IMHO Irshad and the few other brave Muslim dissenters are on a mission from G*d. If they succeed in reforming Islam from within, they will have saved the lives of millions.
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Israeli cabinet minister Natan Sharansky, who at the time was confined to an eight-by-10-foot prison cell on the border of Siberia, said his jailers gave him the special privilege of reading the communist newspaper Pravda.
Splashed across the party organ's pages after Reagan's March 8, 1983, speech to the National Association of Evangelicals was condemnation of the president for having the gall to label the Soviet Union in such terms.
But a far different take on the speech quickly began to echo among the dissidents, who spread the story by tapping on walls and talking through toilets.
"We dissidents were ecstatic," Sharansky wrote in a column for the Jerusalem Post.
"Finally, the leader of the free world had spoken the truth â a truth that burned inside the heart of each and every one of us," said Sharansky, a Russian Jew.
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By far the largest object is the Goddess Pomona, the Roman goddess of gardens and fruit trees, who is depicted from top to bottom in the middle of the seal. The cross, as this description makes clear, is the smallest object in the seal. Actually seeing the seal makes its smallness even clearer. When I first looked at the seal, I didn't even see it.
The cross represents the Christian history of Los Angeles County. It no more advocates Christianity than the Goddess Pomona advocates Roman paganism or the cow promotes Hinduism. It is therefore a lie to argue Los Angeles County is pushing Christianity on its citizens. As for the argument put forth by the ACLU's Ramona Ripston that the tiny cross makes non-Christians feel "unwelcome," as a Jew I find the comment equally absurd and paranoid. I have spoken to Los Angeles County rabbis of every denomination, and not one felt the cross should be removed, let alone felt "unwelcome." By the same logic, vegetarians should feel particularly unwelcome in Los Angeles County, given that two panels depict animals as food.
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SH you don't understand we must remove the CHRISTIAN symbol because God forbid someone might be offfended by it. I hope these supervisors are up for election soon. P.S. God has a special place in hell for the ACLU lawyers (building crosses).
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Los Angeles? The Angels. How Christian centric. Why stop at the cross? Let's rename the city to Los Agnostics, or Los Lobos for the Mexican rocker and PETA demographic.
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I hope GHWB remembers this advice on Friday.
The Great Communicator was also a tutor. "I was in awe," says Bush. "President Reagan went to Normandy and gave those great speeches. When he came back, I asked him, 'How did you ever get through those speeches without breaking up?' He said, 'Here's what you do. You write it out yourself, and then you say it over and over again. And by doing that, it is still personal the way you say it, but you don't feel that you are apt to choke up.'"
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As President, Ronald Reagan defeated Soviet communism, rejuvenated the U.S. economy and invigorated the American spirit. But only an hour after his death on Saturday â and less than 15 minutes into their live coverage â CBS jarringly focused on a bit of anti-Reagan minutia: complaints he âcashed inâ after leaving office. âTheir California retirement home, a $2.5 million hilltop ranch house in exclusive Bel-Air, was a gift from wealthy friends,â reporter Jerry Bowen reminded viewers in a pre-taped story played about 5pm EDT. âThe Reagans paid them back, but the appearance of impropriety lingered.â
âIt was a trip to Japan in October of 1989 that provoked the most stinging comments,â Bowen continued. âFor two 20-minute speeches and a few public appearances, Mr. Reagan was paid $2 million by a Japanese conglomerate.â CBSâs jab was a rude interruption in a weekend of coverage that generally recalled President Reagan as a towering conservative leader who left behind a freer and more prosperous world.
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âTheir California retirement home, a $2.5 million hilltop ranch house in exclusive Bel-Air, was a gift from wealthy friends,â
As opposed to, say, Clinton's $8 million book deal. Must be that inflation thaang...
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as opposed to the ChiCom generosity to Clinton/Gore in '96
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CBS can bite me. The whole democrat-media complex is beginning to convulse in nausea over the public's outpouring of sympathy for the Reagan family and gratitude for what the President achieved while in office. They all want to get back to pushing "the quagmire" but the public is not in a buying mood. Oh, but those same idiots had no problem going with Abu Ghraib 24/7 for weeks, but after 4 days of Reagan, they can't take it anymore? Screw 'em and the donkeys they rode in on.
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you got that right Frank - totally disgusting...at the same time the chicoms where donating to the clinton ticket in '96 the commerce dept gave approval for a chicom state owned company to open shop at the la/long beach harbour...talk about helping thier intel setup shop!
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Rex - small correction: Islamist/destroy America fellow travelers ride in on camels. :-p
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EFL from IWPR. I would like the mines cleaned up in the hinterlands before work is started on air quality in Kabul, but if you wonât leave Kabul donât start the greenhouse gas thing for a couple of decades please.
"Mr. Annan! Mr. Annan! We're useful!"
Abassi said he believes there are also high levels of lead in the air, which has been shown to slow the physical and intellectual growth of children. Well, stop shooting you idiots - sorry, couldnât resist that one.
The only data currently available comes from a landmark 2002 UN report, which used just a few indicators to provide snapshot data on the levels of air pollution in the cities of Kabul, Mazar-e-Sharif, Kandahar and Herat. Zaidi said the main causes of pollution are the number and poor condition of vehicles in the country, the quality of the fuel they burn (which often includes high levels of sulphur and lead), dust caused< by many factors including extensive deforestation, and the burning of toxic materials such as tyres and plastic. There is anecdotal evidence that suggests air pollution may have grown worse, given that there are more vehicles on the roads, land and air transport has increased and the population has increased, because of the return of refugees.
Yasss... It's prob'ly all those people breathing, emitting carbon dioxide all the time. That and the presence of all those infidels. They're foreigners, y'know. Not from around here...
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UN to launch a year-long study on Kabul air quality.
Any possibility that the money that is being expended on this endeavor could be better spent doing something else of more value for Afghanis? (I did notice that the exact amount being spent on this "study" wasn't disclosed)
Zaidi said the main causes of pollution are the number andpoor condition of vehicles in the country, the quality of the fuel they burn (which often includes high levels of sulphur and lead), dust caused by many factors including extensive deforestation, and the burning of toxic materials such as tyres and plastic.
So why waste money studying a problem when the causes appear to be known already? How about proposing, implementing,and funding solutions?
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yea that is exactly what they need at this stage...what a bunch of idiots...please..please GWB send'em a packing.....i for one will be first on the dock's waving bye bye..
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George Patton once said "The reason the Arabs have not progressed is because of their total degredation of women." This might be a bit simplistic but has quite a bit of truth in it.
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deacon that is what irshad manji who is also discuss today is say in her book. she state how are they expect progresives when half the population is kep mentaly shackled?
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Anon it was about 4 AM and I could'nt do the job right. Anyone is welcome to a report as an editted article.
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Deacon - No, it's not "a bit simplistic." It's a very good place to start. If they began treating women as equals, everything else would pretty much fall into place.
I'm not holding my breath.
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I used to ask my Saudi "friends" how they expected to compete in the world - they throw half their brainpower away at birth.
...Unfortunately, even having that debate appears to be too controversial for some. In his article, blogger and American Prospect writer Matthew Yglesias makes a startling charge about those who criticize the mediaâs coverage of Iraq:
". . . the political purpose of the theory [that everything in Iraq is fine except the media coverage] isnât hard to grasp. The groundwork is being laid for a new version of the "stab in the back" myth that helped destroy Weimar Germany. No matter how far south things go in Iraq, the blame will be laid not at the feet of the president who initiated and conducted the war, but rather on those who had the temerity to note that it wasnât working. Rather than the critics having been proven right, or so the story goes, the critics are to blame for the failure of the very policy they were criticizing. Itâs an ugly tactic, and as you go down the journalistic food chain, it grows uglier still."
The charge is astonishing. If Yglesias isnât actually accusing those who are critiquing the media of being Nazis, he is accusing them of stealing a page out of the Nazi playbook.
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Yes, Mr. SH...and just who do you think you are? Criticizing journalists who are obviously your betters? You need to know your place, sir. You and the rest of these so-called Rantburgers need to cease and desist with hollow complaints about the media being the problem! Obviously Iraq is a failing proposition. Victory cannot be created from defeat no matter how hard this current U.S. regime persists in flailing at journalists telling their stories of Iraq.
Journalists can see this. Journalists have our best interests in mind. Journalists speak from the heart. They know more than we do. Give them their due.
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No matter how far south things go in Iraq, the blame will be laid not at the feet of the president who initiated and conducted the war...
You have GOT to be shitting me. Apparently this asswipe has yet to read a newspaper during the last year and a half nor has he read his own fucking columns!
How do these idiots remember to breathe?
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