Somehow it's not the same...
A small New Zealand town has tried to match the glamour and danger of the Spanish bull-run city of Pamplona - by running 2,000 woolly sheep through the middle of a town. No one was chased, trampled or gored by the animals in the inaugural 'Running of the Sheep'. Instead of seeking cover, most spectators helped stop the shaggy mob from scurrying everywhere but the right direction. Headed initially by All Black rugby player greats Colin Meads and Sir Brian Lochore, the sheep were supposed to do a quick circuit through downtown in North Island's Te Kuiti, a rural farming town 355 miles north of Wellington. But the 2,000 ewes lacked the instinct of Spanish bulls, as they split into puzzled groups and set off in all directions. "I think the sheep panicked and we couldn't keep in front of them," Meads said.
Maybe they're more used to being chased?
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Uh, the NewZies must be rather clueless about how it strikes an outsider... Lol!
Running with the Sheep is not something I aspire to!
Ingvar Kamprad, the Swede who founded furniture retail chain IKEA, has overtaken Microsoftâs Bill Gates as the worldâs richest man, Swedish TV news reported on Sunday. Citing next weekâs edition of the Swedish business weekly Veckans Affarer, public service SVT2 television said Kamprad, 77, has a personal fortune of 400 billion crowns ($53 billion). Gatesâs fortune is put at $47 billion, according to the latest list of the worldâs rich in U.S. Forbes magazine, SVT2 said. Kamprad, known for frugal habits such as flying economy class, lives in Switzerland and no longer takes part in the daily running of IKEA, but has kept ownership of the company with more than 180 stores in over 30 countries in the family. SVT2 said the dollarâs slide against other currencies is the main reason why Kamprad has now overtaken Gates.
Indignation took hold of the whole world as soon as news transpired of the cold-blooded murder of Transylvaniaâs spiritual leader, Count Dracula. The militant and founder of the local anti-imperialist movement was a victim of what both human rights organizations and specialists in International Law called an âextra-judicial executionâ. The UK government took responsibility for the action, justifying it as a legitimate reprisal against an open enemy in a context of war. Diplomatic sources, on the condition of anonymity, disclosed that the aristocrat has been killed by members of the SAS under the command of the notorious Dr. Abraham Van Helsing.
The count, better known among his many friends as Vlad Tepes (Vlad, the Impaler) was the founder of/and had been leading for over 500 years the MLT (Movement for the Liberation of Transylvania). Though nobody disputed his popularity in the region, a popularity made obvious by the thousands of protesters who took immediately to the streets of Timisoara, Oradea, Clu-Napoca and Tirgu Mures, his enemies insisted that he was nothing but a âvampireâ, something his followers deny, claiming that âone manâs vampire is another manâs freedom fighterâ.
The spiritual leader of the Transylvanians was finally found out by his killers yesterday in the crypt of his castle in Bran, 20 miles from Brasov, in the Central Carpathians. His spokesperson, Mr. Renfield, told our reporters that, cowardly caught during his morning nap while he was resting in his coffin, the defenseless old man had no chance to react against the high-tech wooden stakes with which the Americans supply abundantly the British army. He also assured us that âthere are no vampires: theyâre but an excuse to deprive us criminally of our lands and to justify this illegal occupationâ.
Dr. Van Helsing, on the other hand, who didnât assume or deny personally the authorship of the attack, told us that âvampiresâ do indeed exist and that itâs a mistake to call their elimination a âkillingâ, since theyâre already dead anyway. Using for them the technical term âthe undeadâ, he stressed that it is useless to fight only their lower ranks that are composed mainly of useful fools whom their leaders had submitted to a process of brain-and-artery-washing. According to him, as it is necessary to uproot this evil, the most humane solution is to destroy the very process that allows the creation of new blood-suckers: âDracula was much more than a mere vampire, he was actually a factory for producing legions of vampiresâ.
The European chancelleries condemned unanimously this murder stating that it was against international legality and would surely be prejudicial to the regionâs thousand year old peace process. The UNâs secretary-general said that the British action was âsimply unacceptableâ, that it was a barbarous act perpetrated against "a democratically chosen leader" (the Count was elected once, in 1496). He also said that even someone accused of vampirism has the right for a fair and two or three centuries long trial at the International Court of Justice. The NGOs, for their part, blamed the international capitalism because, as they explained, Vlad had been for long an obstacle against the woodcutting and wolf-hunting lobbies that have been trying to destroy the delicate ecological balance of the Carpathians.
The opinions of the experts were somewhat more varied. Some of them noted that, contrary to what the Countâs enemies said, he was actually a moderate whose long experience had thaught him that negotiations are always more profitable than the use of raw force. Having learnt this, his influence was central in holding back his younger and thirstier followers. âNowâ, as those experts say, âit will be much worse, because, unliving, Dracula will surely be more dangerous than when he was only undead, and, besides, for each eliminated vampire a hundred new ones will rise from their tombs to keep on fighting until the entire world is converted to their causeâ. Other experts in vampirology were less pessimistic since, in their words, âeven vampires need living people in order to survive, or rather, to remain undeadâ (âŠ) âIf all living human beings were to be killed or transformed in vampires, whose fresh blood would be sucked? What would they (te vampires) do, suck each otherâs throats?â
In spite of being seen by many as responsible for the disappearance of untold thousands of people, the aristocrat was considered an exemplary citizen by most Transylvanians. With an MBA in Occult Sciences and a PhD in Hematology, he used to attribute his longevity and youthful looks to lots of exercise every night and a very balanced diet. He was loved by almost the whole local population because, among other things, he kept in his castle a boarding school for virgin girls and a laboratory for clinical analyses, the services of which were supplied for free to the people.
With tearful eyes Mr. Renfield accused the slanderers of his boss saying that Hollywood shouldnât be allowed to get away with what it had done. He blamed the movie industry for having transformed the image of a "philanthropic humanist in that of a monstrous leech" and said:â Dracula, a vampire? A vampire, in my view, is someone who, under the cover of daylight, gets in somebody elseâs crypt, desecrates his coffin and, without the least respect for his peaceful sleep, drives a stake right through his heartâ.
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Substitute "Dracula" with "Arafat" and "vampire" with "terrorist" (I already realize it was the author's intention) and nail this to the foreheads of those White House policy wonks who keep decrying Israel's targeting of Arafat.
Via An Englishmanâs Castle:
BRITAINâs race relations chief last night called for the abandonment of the policy pursued by successive governments since the 1960s of building a âmulticultural societyâ. Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality, said that multiculturalism was out of date and no longer useful, not least because it encouraged âseparatenessâ between communities. As British-born Muslims burnt the Union Jack on the streets of London yesterday, he said that there was an urgent need to âassert a core of Britishnessâ across society.
If you're not going to be British, what's the sense of having a Britain? You might as well be part of some Caliphate...
In an interview with The Times, he said that multiculturalism â one of the founding principles of his own organisation â âmeans the wrong thingsâ. He added: âWe are now in a different world from the Sixties and Seventies. What we should be talking about is how we reach an integrated society, one in which people are equal under the law, where there are some common values.â Maybe one of our Brit allies would give us more???
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"because it encouraged âseparatenessâ between communities"
And a massive "f**kin duh" for that rather belated observation. Of course, "rainbow" / "multiculti" was an absurd notion from the beginning... but that didn't stop most of the West from treating it with amazing reverence, a social "third rail" on the order of the Holy Grail, instead of the most obviously inane social twittery yet dreamed up.
The size of the Clue Bat⢠that obviously brained ol' Trevor must've been phreakin' huge!
Uh, Bulldog, Tony, Howard, et al - can we, um, sorta borrow it when you're done?
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This is all a little less surprising when you learn that TrevorPhillips is black. Sadly, I don't think a white man making sound comments like these would be tolerated in such a position for very long. Makes not one jot of difference, of course, but when you're fighting a left-wing entrenchment, if a little camouflage helps you creep closer before tossing in the grenades, I'm not going to complain.
Phillips has come out with some surprisingly candid stuff before this. He's called for faster (read: called for, for all intents and purposes) deportation of scum like Hookhand, and he's criticised ethnic shortlists and racial ('positive') discrimination by proudly racist orgs like the BBC (for whom he worked in the past). He's also railed against both anti-semitism and Islamophobia. And he don't get on well with "Red Ken" Livingstone; in fact, he wants his job.
The French are about to make that "huge, stupid mistake" with President Jacques Chirac's proposed ban on hijabs - Muslim headscarves - in school, says Mr Phillips. "It's unbelievable. I'm glad the talks on an EU constitution broke down. How can we have a common constitutional settlement with a country that thinks that unless you are cut out according to a pattern decided by Jacques Chirac you can't be French?"
Part of the British identity is to accept that you can be British but different. "People from Yorkshire are different from people in London but we are all British and we share a common core. We are going to look at what that common core is," he said. The erosion of "English" identity is something he intends to address. "The two great influences on this country are Shakespeare and the Bible. You don't have to be a Christian or a lover of Shakespeare to understand that. Knowing these things is not the enemy of multi-culturalism."
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...Only now, it seems he's gone off the word "multiculturalism" as a government social policy specifically intended to keep communities segregated. You'd have to be mad and unrealistic to demand total monoculturalism in a country like the United Kingdom, which, before religious, ethnic, immigrant and regional groupings, comprises four major distinct 'nationalities', but it's only sensible to expect all British nationals, whatever their cultural background, to ultimately be British first, cultural minority second.
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BD - IMHO, the quicker people drop the cultural identity and its imaginary benefits, they reap the real benefits that come from working toward bona fide integration. Obviously, from what you've said and I've read, Phillips isn't insane or a looney - seems rather solid overall. If I lived in London, he could certainly count on my vote over the infamous Red Ken. Now he is an embarrassment, IMHO, much like Skeery and Kennedy are for us. Sigh. ;-)
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For the multiculturalists out there, these rants are not rooted in racialism and intolerance. The true issue is culture, not race. The U.S. threw in the towel years ago...they have no hope of integrating immigrants into a homgenous culture (U.S...what culture?) The Brits still have a chance, as do the Germans because their historic cultures are still observable,...still exist.
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the quicker people drop the cultural identity and its imaginary benefits, they reap the real benefits that come from working toward bona fide integration.
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Methinks Trevor better watch his back, and check under his car. He's made nasty enemies with this spot-on speech.
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I think culturally aware is healthy. For an American that includes identifying with your cultural roots with an understanding of why the people in your family chose to come to America and assimilate. Cultural festivals are good. I don't think that there is much harmful in the pride of the family in My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
Multiculturalism becomes dangerous because it rejects assimilation and refuses to acknowledge the parts of the new society that an attracted the immigrant to his or her new country. I differentiate multiculturalism from cultural awareness in that multiculturalism implies an unhealthy degree of social separation.
When it functions successfully, America becomes a true melting pot. Multiculturalism, in contrast, implies four separate pots on the stove top - no succotash allowed. Can anyone imagine a man dressed as a leprechaun going door to door making sure that no Scots are celebrating St. Patrick's day? There certainly exist some cultural events that are predicated on the principle of exclusion.
IMO underneath much of the push for multiculturalism and bilingualism there is a an element of political cynical voter-block creation. In America, the Black vote has been successfully herded for the last 40 years. That is an impressive accomplishment by the politicians who have made this happen because there exist within that herd both militant Moslems and socially conservative Baptists - groups that you would expect to be political opponents. The attempt to fashion Latinos into a homogeneous voting block has been moderately successful as well - and would be even more successful if Spanish speaking immigrants are prevented from learning English.
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That's all we need--another wild-ass 3rd world country going nuke-ya-ler.
Dammit.
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Lulu on the road to nukes. Can Hugo Chavez be far behind? We need to take a long hard look south of the border before things get to the point that we have to deploy the Marines a lot closer to home.
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Nonproliferation specialists say that if the United States and the United Nations do not act to curtail Brazil's program, or at least insist on inspections, the lack of action could undermine White House calls for Iran and North Korea to halt their efforts to enrich uranium.
Get inspected or get your facilities bombed into rubble. End of story.
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We have an unfortunate blind spot in our perception that South of the Border includes only Mexico. Lulu is making a mistake in drawing our attention to his country.
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Chinese state security officials have arrested a popular Tibetan singer and a composer, apparently because of the implicit political content of their music, an official said. The singer and composer, known as Namkha and Bakocha respectively, were taken into custody around March 10 in Tongde county, a traditionally Tibetan area now part of northwest China's Qinghai province, a police officer and the US-based Radio Free Asia (RFA) said. "It was the state security police who arrested them," said a Tibetan police officer in Tongde county's public security bureau.
Music haters!
"I don't know what charges were filed against them, but it was because of political reasons," said the officer, who identified himself as Wu Jianchu. The two men sang folk songs and were popular in the area and famous throughout the province, Wu told AFP. The arrests appear to have been prompted by the mildly political content of Namkha's songs, RFA sources said. The songs in question are titled "Tsenpoe Poinya," or "King's Messenger," and "Amdo Pogoe," meaning "Courageous Amdo Man."
You get a bar full of people start singing "Courageous Amdo Man" and next thing you know, you got a situation.
But an RFA source said: "There isn't actually any serious (explicit) political content, but it all depends how you interpret them." Chinese state security officials in Qinghai's Hainan prefecture are confiscating all CDs made by the men. "All their CDs have been confiscated by the police," Wu said.
"We're just cracking down on dissent piracy."
Both men come from a nomadic area in Qinghai. Bakocha is a monk at the Ba Shangtse Monastery in Tongde county. Local security officials went to the monastery and instructed the monks to surrender those CDs, RFA said. They warned the monks that they would face "serious consequences" if they were found to possess Namkha's music, the source said.
"Hand over the disks and no one gets hurt. Today."
Chinese state security officials in the area could not be reached for comment.
"We need say no more!"
The two men's whereabouts are unknown.
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Courageous Amdo Man."
Amdoe Amdoe Man.
You gotta be an Amdoe Man.
I do hope Tibet doesn't get caught in the Disco Phase of Civilization for too long. They've a habit of over doing things.
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Eventually, we need to begin work on the Tibet problem. In some ways the amount of intramural political chaos that is present in so many democracies throughout the world prevents any coherent efforts to curtail repression by the world's bad actors.
It doesn't help that Tibet has uranium reserves that China covets.
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SH - You mean it wasn't just the evil Dalai Lama they were after? ;-)
A moderate earthquake jolted northeastern Japan on Sunday, lightly injuring one person and prompting two nuclear reactors to shut down automatically as a precaution. The 5.6-magnitude quake was centered about 25 miles under the sea bed off the coast of Ibaraki province, about 60 miles northeast of Tokyo, the Meteorological Agency said. Two reactors operated by the Japan Atomic Energy Research Institute shut down automatically after the earthquake but were reactivated about 40 minutes later, Kyodo News reported, citing the provincial government. The quake, which struck at 8:21 a.m. Sunday morning, was felt most strongly around the city of Mito. The agency said there was no danger of tsunami, or powerful ocean waves caused by seismic activity. A quake of magnitude 5 or higher can cause damage to homes and buildings if it hits a populated area.
Or if the buildings were shoddily built as a result of bribes and payoffs to mullahs.
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Or if the buildings were shoddily built as a result of bribes and payoffs to mullahs.
Now that's a cheap shot worthy of you freepers. Making light of Islamic architectural standards... what neo- crapo.
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Wow, upon further review I retract my last statement. He isn't being sarcastic he's just a F*&^ing lunatic. It is really so hard to tell the difference these days.
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Dean's a pussy, always wuz. One day, one day these trained killer hands of mine are gonna get around his chicken-like neck. Being a convicted felon I'm not allowed a fire-arm, so it'll have to be mano-mano, I'll allow dean the first 10 head shots. Don't belive me? Light the candle!
BTW I've seen a Col Flagg around here... is he DIA, or CID?
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I have one sentence for everyone who thinks Dubya is all that. Prescott Bush(GWB'S Grandfather)was a director of a bank owned by nazi industrialists.
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No you haven't! Bush's grandfather may well have some business relationship with German industrialists, but then JFKs father was both a government official and unabashedly pro-Nazi, and so was the Pope in the 1930s. All you allege is Bush's grandfather had some relationship with a company that had German stockholders (who your allege were Nazis, although its fairly clear that were Germans guilty by geographic association). The same is doubtless true of you, assuming your super is in a diversified stock fund.
What is it with the Left and their complete inability to construct a cogent argument.
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I've had ancestors/relatives who were in the IRA, fought on the German side in WWI&WWII, and by family accounts owned slaves and fought for the confederacy - so f*cking what? The stupidity or wrongful actions of my ancestors does not reflect on me. I may not condone what they did but I'm not going to walk around ashamed. Also, its easy to look at every event over 50 yrs ago w/21st century eyes. So, I.E. - What does W have to do w/the acts of his granddad? Aunti-snore you again prove yourself an idiot.
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Anti-point, since you live down under and are of mick background you prolly have a grandfather who was some malcontent criminal, drunk, pickpocket, or other wise derelict individual - guess that makes you a criminal to. /sarcasm off.
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AntiW,Bayer pharmacuticals was part a parcel of the Nazi industrial machine(even used concentration camp labor).
I sincerly hope you do not use in medications manufactured by Bayer.If you do(by your reasoning)that would mean you are aidding and abetting criminals and by extention are a criminal yourself.
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Freepers never, ever learn.
The PEACE treaty at Munich was one of the clear signs that the now defunct and so called "Western Civilization" was due for a major make-over.
DIFFERNT TIMES DIFFERENT MORALS. Jeez.... what a bunch of Pre Hilton wanna bies.
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Anti-Gum, what in the world are you babbling about?
First of all this isn't Free Republic, in case you haven't noticed.
Munich was not about the failure of Western civilization, it was about the failure of multi-culti 3rd Way Soviet-styled peace-obsessed talking shops like the League of Nations and now the U.Frickin'N.
Different Times Different Morals=Relativist and situational ethics BS.
Morality and truth never change.
I have no idea what a "Pre Hilton wanna bies" is and I don't wanna know.
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IF you do a Google search on "Fort Mimms", you'll learn a lot about a guy named "Red Eagle", my Great-great-several times removed ancestor. Funny thing is, if you read the list of dead from the Fort Mimms massacre and compare it to my high school graduating class of 40 years ago and several hundred miles away, you'd be surprised to find 90% of my class's surnames on that list. The relationships are real - we've traced them. Today we're all friends. I publish a monthly class newsletter read by about 90 (of 130) of them. That's because we have the ability to forgive what happened in the past, build relationships on what happens now, and establish new relationships based on mutual respect. Unfortunately, some societies, some cultures, don't seem to have that ability, and still fight - and lose - wars that were settled 500 years ago. Others continue to believe all human beings are lemmings, bound forever to follow the failings of some ancient ancestor. There's a word for such people - it's IDIOTS.
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In the 1920s my grandfather was a safety inspector at a brewery in Austria that was nationalized after the Anschluss and in 1939, Hitler himself had a beer there. I guess that make me a Nazi.
LATimes - requires reg., so Iâm posting it all - what an asshole, and heâd be whispering in Kerryâs ear in the oval office....another reason to vote for W By George Soros, George Soros heads Soros Fund Management and is the founder of a global network of foundations dedicated to supporting open societies. His most recent book is "The Bubble of American Supremacy."
The Bush administration is in the habit of waging personal vendettas against those who criticize its policies, but bit by bit the evidence is accumulating that the invasion of Iraq was among the worst blunders in U.S. history. personal vendettas like the MoveOn ads? Or the NAACP ads? What about the spew coming from you, George?
If the administration cannot recognize and admit its mistakes, it cannot correct its policies. to the "correct" policies which you subscribe to?
War is a false and misleading metaphor in the context of combating terrorism. The metaphor suited the purposes of the administration because it invoked our military might. But military actions require an identifiable target, preferably a state. As a result, the war on terrorism has been directed primarily against states like Afghanistan that are harboring terrorists, not at pursuing the terrorists themselves. The Taliban wouldnât give them up => they pay the price
Imagine for a moment that Sept. 11 had been treated as a crime against humanity. We would have pursued Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan (hopefully with more success), but we would not have invaded Iraq. Nor would we today have our military struggling to perform police work in full combat gear, getting soldiers killed in the process. which bothers George not one bit, I bet
This does not mean that we should not use military means to capture and bring terrorists to justice when appropriate. But to protect ourselves against terrorism, we need precautionary measures, awareness and intelligence gathering â all of which ultimately depend on the support of the populations among which terrorists operate. Declaring war on the very people we need to enlist against terrorism is a huge mistake. We are bound to create some innocent victims, and the more of them there are, the greater the resentment and the better the chances that some victims will turn into the next perpetrators.
On Sept. 11, the United States was the victim of a heinous crime, and the whole world expressed spontaneous and genuine sympathy. Since then, though we Americans are loath to admit it, the war on terrorism has claimed more innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq than were lost in the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. The comparison is rarely made in the U.S.: American lives are valued differently from the lives of foreigners, but the distinction is less obvious to people abroad.
The war on terrorism as pursued by the Bush administration is more likely to bring about a permanent state of war than an end to terrorism. Terrorists are invisible; therefore, they will never disappear. They will continue to provide a convenient pretext for the pursuit of American supremacy by military means. That, in turn, will continue to generate resistance, setting up a vicious circle of escalating violence.
The important thing to remember about terrorism is that it is a reflexive phenomenon. Its impact and development depend on the actions and reactions of the victims. If the victims react by turning into perpetrators, terrorism triumphs in the sense of engendering more and more violence. That is what the fanatically militant Islamists who perpetrated the Sept. 11 attacks must have hoped to achieve. By allowing a "war" on terrorism to become our principal preoccupation, we are playing straight into the terroristsâ hands: They â not we â are setting our priorities.
The United States is the most powerful country on Earth. While it cannot impose its will on the world, nothing much can be done in the way of international cooperation without its leadership or at least active participation.
The United States has a greater degree of discretion in deciding the shape of the world than anybody else. Other countries donât have a choice: They must respond to U.S. policy. This imposes a unique responsibility on the United States: Our nation must concern itself with the well-being of the world. The United States is the only country that can take the lead in addressing problems that require collective action: preserving peace, assuring economic progress, protecting the environment and so on. Fighting terrorism and controlling weapons of mass destruction also fall into this category.
By using the war on terror as a pretext for asserting our military supremacy, we are embarking on an escalating spiral of terrorist/ counterterrorist violence. If instead we were to set an example of cooperative behavior, we could not only alleviate poverty, misery and injustice in the world, but also gain support for defending ourselves against terrorism. We will be the greatest beneficiaries if we do so. George Soros - puppeteer behind the 527âs running ads against W....lovely
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So George wants to continue the failed policies of Clinton and Clarke...
How many have those failed 'policies' killed again?
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"Imagine for a moment that Sept. 11 had been treated as a crime against humanity. We would have pursued Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan (hopefully with more success),..."
Is there, uh, some reason you believe you would have had more success?? This is precisely the policy Bill Clinton followed for eight years, and the biggest indications of its "success" were the 9/11 attacks themselves.
",...but we would not have invaded Iraq."
And would have forfeited a major strategic advantage in carrying the WoT forward. It isn't too hard, George, to figure out a myriad of ways in which invading Iraq helps our position; I can list at least 35 of them. Is there some reason you can't think of even one?
"But to protect ourselves against terrorism, we need precautionary measures, awareness and intelligence gathering â all of which ultimately depend on the support of the populations among which terrorists operate. Declaring war on the very people we need to enlist against terrorism is a huge mistake."
Oooooh, I see: let's not make the jihadis angry at us. Well guess what, George: they're already hopping mad at America, and have been--by their own declaration--at war with us for at least the last third of a century. And getting tough with troublesome regimes and demanding their cooperation, instead of begging for it, isn't going to make them angrier. As the French say, it is pour encourager les autres. Quaddafi sure seems to have gotten the message.
"On Sept. 11, the United States was the victim of a heinous crime, and the whole world expressed spontaneous and genuine sympathy."
That wasn't sympathy, Georgie: it was something called schadenfreude. It means that they were happy to see us down on our knees and gasping for air after having been dealt a surprise kick in the balls by dirty little ragheads. Once we started fighting back, it wasn't fun anymore. We will never get genuine sympathy from the rest of the world, George; you may as well grow up and get used to that fact.
"The war on terrorism as pursued by the Bush administration is more likely to bring about a permanent state of war than an end to terrorism."
No state of war is permanent, unless you are too afraid to fight it to a conclusion. It is utterly, entirely, a matter of will. Bush has that will. Your kind do not.
"The important thing to remember about terrorism is that it is a reflexive phenomenon."
I'm sure you find some sort of psychological comfort in the notion that we "cause" Islamic terrorism, George, but that's just a childish delusion. I, like every other American, have done my duty by asking myself, "Why do they hate us so much?" And the answer is, they hate us because they are fucked-up savages caught in the grip of a stone-age death cult. Kind of like those loonies in the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party."
"Its impact and development depend on the actions and reactions of the victims."
That's right: if we kill enough of them, they'll lose interest in killing us. And then this war will stop. That's not too hard to understand, is it?
"Our nation must concern itself with the well-being of the world. The United States is the only country that can take the lead in addressing problems that require collective action: preserving peace, assuring economic progress, protecting the environment and so on."
That's what we're doing, George; that's what America always does--instead of just talking about doing those things--when you people are kept away from the reins of power.
"By using the war on terror as a pretext for asserting our military supremacy, we are embarking on an escalating spiral of terrorist/ counterterrorist violence."
Oh, quit that damned neurotic hand-wringing. You're disgusting. There isn't going to be any "spiral of violence", because we're going to kill all the little bastards.
"If instead we were to set an example of cooperative behavior, we could not only alleviate poverty, misery and injustice in the world, but also gain support for defending ourselves against terrorism."
All we gain by pretending the world is Sesame Street is what we gained throughout the eight years of Bill Clinton's presidency: the utter contempt of the entire world.
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I'm always amazed when someone who is otherwise obviously intelligent, in Soros' case playing money markets and casually destroying the economies of 2 or 3 small countries before he's even had breakfast, can be so fucking clueless about Islam. And politics. And people. And life.
I'm feeling generous this morning so I'll suggest that old George isn't a total moronic asshole - he's merely an economic idiot savant.
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Oops - I overlapped with you Dave... and after reading your eloquest fisk post, I take it back: Soros IS a total moronic asshole... who also happens to be an economic idiot savant. ;->
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Well of course it could be that he's not stupid, just crooked...
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Or crooked and stupid, Dave D.
I'll tell you what, Georgy-Porgy - Let's drop you down in Gaza and make sure they know you're a Jew, and see if you change your mind in the few seconds you remain alive.
Wotta maroon.
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The thing that bothers me about this guy is the way is he is trying to "buy" this election through his 527 agencies et al. His sponsoring of anti-war and active left activivties do nothing for his cause among most Americans. Eventually more will be heard of this guy. Just don't count on any real investigative reporting from the liberal press. Where oh where are you Edward R Murrow.
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Soros: Our "war" on terror breeds terrorists, and a vicious cycle of violence
Yeah, right. Just like sex education increases teen pregnancy rates and driver's ed classes cause more automobile accidents.
The one guaranteed way to breed more terrorists is not killing them quickly enough.
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Soros' currency speculation precipitated a general collapse of Asian currencies in 97, a crime against humanity that caused untold suffering in Thailand, Malaysa, Korea, Indonesia, et. al. I think that he should be tried in Jakarta for his perfidy.
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Who, who I ask you, can bring Lurch's campaign out of the doldrums?
Just pick somebody, Sen. J. F'in Ketchup, cause you're going to lose and it doesn't matter.
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They're still mulling over a Kerry/McCain ticket, thinking it would make the election a slam-dunk for them.
Any former McCain Republicans have an opinion on this? Would such a ticket make you consider voting for Kerry? I was for Bush in 2000, and the notion of McCain turning coat and running with a Dem would infuriate me so much I'd crawl through machine gun fire to get to the voting booth and vote against him.
In other words, my guess is that McCain agreeing to be Kerry's running mate would not necessarily be a boon to Kerry.
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I'm hoping he picks someone like Hillary. The thought of two asshole political hacks having to endure this fall's disaster is delicious. The greatest benefit is that listening to Kerry speak will turn Dem voters off politics for years ;-)
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I still think the all Kerry ticket is the most threating for the Republicans.
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#3, right on Bro. I'm from AZ and think the world of McCain as obviously a lot of AZ people do. I too would vote against him and go for Bush as I'm planning to do anyway. He couldn't change my vote. Chine
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As interesting it is to read stuff by Morris I never can quite shake the feeling that he just talks to his audience, which these days seems to be Republicans.
I hope he's right, but I never do lose that feeling.
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Unfortunately, I agree :( while some of his predictions ARE coming true, and a meeting with a Hispanic conservative reassured me, even I feel he whitewashes the situation ...
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Dunno 'bout that, Laurence.
Been over to Lucianne (VRWC HQ that I love, BTW).
They villify the toe sucker on a regular basis and they're GOP-ers.
I get the feeling that Dicky is stil bitter about being cut loose from the Clintoons and that if Billary said the word, he'd go back to them in a heartbeat.
Against that day, Morris treats every bit of bad news about the Dimocrats with jubilation because he thinks the Clintoons are behind it all...and he's probably right.
Don't trust Dick and if you always think of him sucking on a prozzy's toes, you'll know how seriously to take him.
Poor baby, neither Dims nor Repubs take him seriously.
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I don't care if everything else he says is false, he predicted Evita would never be president. She'll be stuck in the Senate for the next 30 years.
A)Kerry is a big spending socialist.
B)Kerry is a defeatist politician in a time of war.
C)Kerry is a prototypical multiculturalist.
D)Kerry embraces foreign leaders/allies' concerns before he will embrace our national security.
E) Kerry was part of a group in the 1970 which committed treason by advocating the murder of legislatures.
F) Kerry lied to Congress in 1971, lied to Massaschesetts throughout his political career, lied to the nation, lied to the first wife and is probably lying to the current wife.
Kerry is as noone else a walking talking negative. And with this leftist/bagman wife of his, I am surprised he is getting the money he is.
Did not Heinz's panic letter not get anyone's attention? They want no connection with Teresa 'Cashand' Kerry.
Morris has a writing style and a political bent that makes him sound like he is handwringing for Kerry ( which he is) while supporting the right side of issues (which he isn't.)
Morris' writing style is psyops at the political level, and in a time of peace when this nation's very survival is not at stake, I wouldn't give it the yawn it truely deserves.
Morris is a democrat first, and is positively drooling at the prospect of getting a socialist in the White House, so much so, he is writing articles that make him sound journalistic, but which are in fact just a love letter to Kerry's supporters telling them to dial back on the Marxist/pro Islamist stuff until after the convention. Then they can go back to lying about what they really mean for the nation.
In order to enjoy 2004, my friends, you have to understand Kerry and his leftist coattails are going to be soo tattered by the time the election comes, I doubt he will haul in a school board member in Mass. The closest Kerry will get to the White House will be his senate seat.
In Novemver, you will all be amazed the democrats actually thought they could gain the White House with leftist rhetoric and then change their tune in the fall and NOT get caught.
You have to wonder how fast Morris is cashing those checks from the DNC.
Might be old news, but via RightWingNews:
...But numbers compiled this week for the first half of fiscal 2004 show that those five combat units met, or nearly met, all retention targets for enlisted soldiers â the privates, corporals and sergeants who total 416,000 of the Armyâs 490,000 active force.... The Army also met its recruiting goal of 73,800 inductees last fiscal year, and 34,000 for the first six months of this fiscal year, which began Oct. 1. "Soldiers are extremely resilient," said Col. Elton Manske, chief of the enlisted division at Army headquarters in the Pentagon. "There is absolutely no sign of a âhollow Army.â Soldiers are continuing to re-enlist at least at historic rates."
That's because they're protecting their country. For the good ones, that's what they signed up to do.
Officials attribute the soldiersâ recent votes of confidence to love of job, patriotism and cash. The Army in December created a new, $68 million pot that paid soldiers up to $10,000 to re-enlist and stay in their current unit for 12 months. Col. Manske said word of the coming bonus caused some soldiers to delay hitching up until January, causing first-quarter targets to be missed. The Army overall now stands at 99 percent of re-enlistment goals and expects to exceed 100 percent by yearâs end on Sept. 30, he said. "Bonuses had a significant effect," he said.
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Only in America. The US enlisted man speculates in bonus futures.
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Bad news for the liberal left. Their anti-war tactics appear to be worthless, as they are anyways. It's probably hard for them to understand what patriotism means. I like the re-up incentives.
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Well, Shipman, what else would we expect a good capitalistic imperialistic American do????
Yep. That oughta take care of the problem.
The Security Council on Friday gave its backing for talks to end the bloodshed in Sudanâs Darfur region amid what a UN official called the ethnic cleansing of the countryâs non-Arab population. But Sudanâs UN ambassador poured cold water on hopes of a quick solution in Darfur, where hundreds of thousands of people have been driven from their homes in what is emerging as one of the worst crises in the world.
"We'll talk after we've bumped off enough of 'em! We ain't done yet!"
âEvery effort has to be made to find a settlement to the conflict,â said current president German ambassador Gunter Pleuger after the 15-nation council expressed support for faltering talks in neighbouring Chad to end the conflict.
The longer you yap about it, the higher the piles of corpses get.
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Well, I'm just thrilled. After all, think of all the other genocides that have been stopped by the U.N. talking.
There was, ummm.... And then there was, uhhhhhh....
You do remember, don't you?
*chirp, chirp*
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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Another paving stone on the road to hell.
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Oh Great. Talks!
That ought to give them enough time to kill and/or enslave everyone...
The U.N. is about as useful as a turd in a rainstorm....
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Malaysia can squawk all they want but if one American vessel is boarded or commandeered in the region they can go piss up a rope.
Malaysia's straits of Malacca carries some of the heaviest ocean-going traffic on our entire planet. The area already has a severe pirate problem that manifests in armed takeovers of large cargo ships.
A few strategic scuttlings could jam the straits and do immense damage to international shipping throughout the region. Imagining that Malaysia has the military capacity to properly address this issue is akin to going after moose with a .22 pistol.
Hat tip LGF
A MALAYSIAN truck driver has admitted scalping his wife because she dyed her hair and refused to wear the tudung. Mohamad Azhar Ngah, 34, told a court on Friday he attacked her with a knife at their home in Kuala Lumpur last week because of her appearance. âI cut her scalp because she did not wear a tudung and she had dyed her hair. I did not like it,â he said. He faces a jail term of up to three years, a fine and whipping with a cane when a sentence for the offence of voluntarily injuring his wife is handed down on May 14.
Mohamad Azhar said he sent his wife, accounts clerk Rafidah Ibrahim, 34, to the hospital after the attack. The prosecuting officer, Chief Inspector A. Vasu, said he was still waiting for a medical report on her condition. Mohamad Azhar and Rafidah have been married for 13 years. They have two sons and a daughter. The husband, who is living in Kuala Lumpur, came originally from Kelantan, the state with strict Islamic laws ruled by Parti Islam SeMalaysia. These include the compulsory wearing of headscarves for Muslim women in public. After Mohamad Azhar pleaded guilty on Friday, he was taken to Sungai Buloh prison. He will stay there until May 14 because he could not come up with the bail, set at RM2,000 (S$884).
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I give Malaysia points for actually punishing people for such things. Hope it's a fine strong person who does the caning, too. Or the wife...
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Can you say indoctrination? I knew you could.
This is where ex-lib should step in and explain the effect of what indoctrination has on the developing mind of a child. You can raise a human to believe absolutely anything. Period. Full stop.
It's an impossible situation, of course, but the only alternatives to living with Islam, something they declare is an impossibility, is to:
1) take their children away from them at birth
2) kill them before they kill you
The choices suck. But it doesn't matter - they are forcing the issue and relieving us of the burden of choosing. If only they would adapt and change, the strong suit of Homo Sapiens, but that is obviously a "bridge too far" - they automatically refuse to change anything - after all it's the fucking Literal Word of God. Right. Leaving aside the issue of Arabic vs Aramaic / virgins vs raisins... He sure was busy as hell back in the day. It's been damned quiet since. Now ask me why I'm an atheist - and no, there's no offense meant, just utter exasperation. Sigh.
fair comments. indoctrination is the pervasive social conditioner, and any obscure doctrine can be internalized and lived with unquestioned fanatiscm given the right environment. in that sense then governments and media should be more responsible.
malaysia is generally a moderate islamic state, and the recent election results attest to a more tolerant and progressive society. in this instance the consequences of the crime was an appropriate judicial response and public distain.
doctrinal truths are not always imediately apparent, still i'm not certain atheism is the answer, BUT, that's the great thing about God - God gives us a chioce, so that's the least we can do for others.
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Six years after Indonesia's strongman Suharto stepped down, the party which backed his dictatorship for decades seems set for a comeback. Voters in the world's third largest democracy -- disillusioned with the inefficiency, lacklustre growth and still-pervasive graft of post-Suharto Indonesia -- are expected to turn towards his Golkar party in Monday's general election. Confidence in democratic politics has been undermined by politicians themselves and "many ordinary people look through rose-tinted spectacles to the Suharto era as a time of social peace and relative prosperity", the International Crisis Group said in a December report.
Opinion polls show Golkar replacing President Megawati Sukarnoputri's Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P) as the biggest party in the 550-seat parliament, but without an absolute majority. If the PDI-P does fare badly on Monday, Megawati could face a tough battle in July's presidential and vice-presidential election despite her status as daughter of charismatic founding president Sukarno. Megawati, who took office in July 2001, restored macroeconomic stability and quelled ethnic and sectarian conflicts which had flared under the chaotic rule of her predecessor Abdurrahman Wahid. But half the country's 212 million people still live on less than two dollars a day, prices are rising and social services are worsening. Ten million are jobless and 30 million underemployed and economic growth is too low to make a dent in those figures. Foreign investment is still below its level before the 1997-98 economic crisis. Her administration's poor record in fighting endemic corruption has also left it vulnerable. Golkar claims it has changed since the Suharto era, which was marked by massive corruption and gross rights abuses.
However, it still stresses its past record in government, when Indonesia was one of Asia's tiger economies. If it comes second to the PDI-P in the legislative election, Golkar has said it will contest only the vice-presidency in July.
They'd certainly be better off without Hamzah Haz...
Presidential contenders do not have to come from the same party as their running mates, raising the prospect of a PDI-P-Golkar coalition. A high turnout is predicted across the world's largest archipelago for what the elections commission describes as the most complex single-day poll ever held by a developing country. Voters will elect the national parliament and a new body called the regional representatives' council as well as provincial and district legislatures. Unofficial results from a computerised count are expected within one or two days. A week after the campaign started, only two percent considered terrorism their main concern, according to one survey. Islamic fundamentalism has little mass appeal in the world's largest Muslim-populated nation. Secular and nationalist parties like Golkar and PDI-P are again expected to claim the lion's share of the vote. Five parties with mainly Islamic agendas have softened their message and shied away from the issue of introducing sharia (Islamic law) -- apparently aware that most of the 147 million voters are more interested in issues like unemployment and fighting graft. Analyst Muhammad Qodari predicted that the five would gain around a combined 14 percent of the votes, similar to 1999. Only the Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) is expected to buck the trend, more because of its firm stance against corruption than because of religious rhetoric. "We know that people have a sort of phobia about the word sharia," said Ferry Kuntoro, a PKS spokesman.
Or it could be that they have a good idea what it involves...
"We are promoting Islamic values. These include good governance. We talk about issues such as how we can establish a government which is clean, honest and caring."
Give 'em a little bit of power and in a year or two you'll discover that the path to clean, honest and caring government is through shariah.
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Just one more reason to put Suharto on trial for the US$ 15-35 BILLION he raped out of Indonesia. The doctors who found him mentally unfit for trial need their licenses yanked too. Indonesia and the world need to be apprised of just how much destruction this one family wreaked upon their own nation. They make the Marcos gang look like a bunch of boy scouts.
Following reports that UNWRA food stockpiles were depleted in the Gaza Strip, IDF officials Sunday said they had agreed to enable the organization to refill warehouses. Deputy UNWRA manager in Gaza, Kirsten Gordon told Channel 2 news Sunday evening that 2 of 3 Gazans rely on emergency supplies for their sustanence, and since neither Hamas nor the Palestinian Administration were supplying essentials to the needy there, the closure of the Gaza crossings due to terror alerts was having dire consequences. Blaming Israeli restrictions at the Karni commercial crossing, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) on Thursday suspended emergency food aid for 600,000 Palestinian in Gaza. "If the new restrictions in Gaza continue, I fear we could see real hunger emerge for the first time in two generations," UNRWA commission-general Peter Hansen said in a press release.
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The two Ashod suicide boomer came out of Gaza in a shipping container. At the time I thought WTF does Gaza export that requires they send out shipping container? I now realize it was an empty UNHCR container. Although the media has been its normal dishonest self on this issue.
Palestinian minister Nabil Shaath is expected to chair Monday's cabinet meeting following reports that PA Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei has been hospitalized in Amman. Sources told the Jerusalem Post that Qurei, who has suffered three heart attacks in the past, complained of blurred eyesight, a situation aggravated after last week's cabinet meeting.
A cabinet meeting? Was Yasser there? Prob'ly apoplexy.
Meanwhile, former Palestinian minister Mohamed Dahlan warned that if the PA did not prepare for Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, the area would sink into anarchy.
I dunno. I think anarchy would be a step up.
In an interview last week, Dahlan called for a revamping of the Palestinian leadership and an end to corruption.
Of course, that's why he's unemployed, isn't it?
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Qurei was probably warned ahead of time of the "Yassin treatmentâ¢"
even if not, it's fun to spread the paranoia
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A troupe of actors have been beaten by university students in the eastern province of Nangarhar for playing music and allowing men and women to perform onstage together, National Theatre director Gul Makay Shah said on Saturday. The team of 20 actors, which included four women, had gone to Nangarhar to perform shows to celebrate the Afghan new year which began on March 21 and which raised awareness about the countryâs upcoming democratic elections, Makay Shah said.
"We went to districts and villages, performed at schools and other places where we were warmly welcomed by people, respected, and they asked us to come back again and again," she said.
But the experience at the university brought back memories of Taliban rule when women were barred from public life and stage performances and music were considered taboo, she said. Initially the election awareness show, held in an auditorium packed with students, was well received. "Everyone was clapping and whistling in appreciation of the show but unfortunately it didnât last long," said Makay Shah, who witnessed the debacle from the front row. When performers started to sound a drum, students wearing traditional shalwar kameez and turbans appeared from the backstage area and began to beat the musicians and break the equipment. "They started to beat the male performers and broke our sound system and other equipment that I had begged and got from non-governmental organisations and other organizations to keep the theatre alive," Makay Shah said. "We (women) were slightly hurt while getting out of the crowd through a small door but our male colleagues were badly beaten," the director said, adding that one man was taken to hospital with minor injuries. "They even broke the windows of our vehicle but we managed to get out of the crowd alive and hide in one of my relativeâs houses far from the city. We drove to Kabul at 4am the next morning," she said.
Makhdoom Javed Hashmi, detained president of the Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy, recorded his statement in the high treason case filed against him on Saturday. Islamabad District and Sessions Court Judge Chaudhry Asad Raza ordered Mr Hashmi to record his statement after his counsels, MA Malik and Syed Zafer Ali Shah, completed cross-examination of the 14 prosecution witnesses. In his statement, Mr Hashmi denied guilt of the charges against him in the high treason case. He said a forged case was filed against him because he criticised the military regime on the floor of the National Assembly and in other public places.
"Framed! I been framed, I tell yez!"
The court directed Special Public Prosecutor Munir Bhatti to initiate arguments on this case at the next hearing day on April 9. Mammona Hashmi, a member of the National Assembly and Mr Hashmiâs daughter, was present during the court proceedings.
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The movie has opened in Syria, Jordan and Lebanon - but not in Israel. .... The film opened in France this week, as commentators warned it could add to a recent wave of anti-Semitic feeling in the country. .... Vatican officials have praised the film, with the movie due to open on 7 April in Italy. .... The film is also due to open in Russia on Tuesday. It has already proven to be a box-office hit in the UK and the US, where it may soon become the biggest film in US cinema history.
Many critics have complained that the movie blames primarily Jews for Jesusâ arrest and execution. Thatâs certainly true about the film, but itâs also true about the New Testament. I myself am not very concerned about that aspect of the film. After all, the film also shows the Romans as the worst torturers and shows Jews as Jesusâ family and disciples.
I would condemn the film for a failure to present a clear and coherent explanation of why Jesus was arrested, tortured and executed. The film is so muddled about that question that we can hardly address (what should be) the next question of whether that explanation is true.
On the other hand, I praise the film for its cinematic virtuosity in depicting Jesusâ physical suffering, which I think was a major intention of the filmâs creators. This aspect of the film will make a huge mental impact on all viewers. This film will significantly affect the way that people in our time think about Jesus. The mental image of Jesus as the holy moral teacher has been eclipsed by an image of Jesus as a human courageous martyr.
That said, I now want to point out the moment that, I think, the filmâs creators intended to deliver the filmâs main lesson. I found this incident to be a brilliant yet subtle element that I wish other viewers understand as I did.
Although Jesus is already dying because of the tortures, he is forced to drag his cross a long way to the execution site. He collapses several times, and each time the soldiers and bystanders beat Jesus to make him stand up and continue. Eventually a Roman officer orders his soldiers to make a bystander help Jesus drag the cross the rest of the way. The soldiers then do pick a tall, strong man (Simon of Cyrene) out of the crowd and tell him to help. The tall man tries to talk his way out of the order, complaining that he is just passing through and knows nothing and has nothing to do with the events, but the soldiers nevertheless compel him to help.
The procession to the execution site then continues for a while, and gradually the tall man sympathizes and even admires Jesus for the endured suffering. After a while Jesus collapses again, and the soldiers and bystanders again begin beating him. The tall man watches for a moment and then swings his hands at the attackers to make them stop and move back. He then yells (something like): "Stop beating him. If you keep hitting him, then Iâll stop helping here; I donât care what you do to me!" That statement is (as I recall) immediately followed by a very brief flashback of Jesus reciting his beatitudes in his Sermon on the Mount.
Simon of Cyrene is a uninformed, unengaged, ordinary, cowardly man who does not realize his own strength and moral instinct. Unexpectedly placed into a dangerous situation where he might exercise that strength and instinct to defend a doomed stranger against many dangerous attackers, he is inspired by Jesusâ suffering to risk his own safety. On one hand, his threat is: "Iâll stop helping here." On the other hand, though, his defiance is brave: "I donât care what you do to me."
A positive message that I thus took from this very brutal film is that, like Simon of Cyrene, we too should feel encouraged by Jesusâ suffering to do even small good deeds when crucial moments occur in our own always confused and sometimes frightening lives.
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What is it with these reporters and the biggest movie of all time crap. It won't even get close to Titanic. The only reason I bring it up is it just shows how bad reporters are in general and how you should not believe everything you read.
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I wonder why Gibson chose to focus only on the Passion. Could it be because this was the only place in Christ's story where he could inject typical Hollywood violence to make the film sell? Does he mention anywhere in the film why Jesus was so hated by some and was crucified?
The issue of placing blame on the Jews for Jesus' crucifixion is historically irrelevant. If the Romans considered Jesus politically dangerous to them, they would have killed all the apostles as well. That's common knowledge. Blaming the Jews however, is just being theologically ignorant (as well as being ignorant of the Bible).
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Right you are Rafe.
Rome crucified Christ not the Jews.
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I don't get all the hoopla is about,it does not matter if the Romans killed him or the Jews or little Green Men from Mars he was going to die anyway it was pre-ordained.
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I don't think the film was anti-semitic at all. Jesus was a jew after all, the pharisees (who were also jews) wanted him dead and got Pontius P. to sign off on it. Pretty easy to assimilate for anyone w/half a brain. Much hoopla over nothing imo.
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Rafe, most, if not all of the apostles were executed by the Romans.
Martyred for the Faith like St. Paul and St. Peter.
In fact, I'd never heard the word "martyr" used for anyone but Christians who had given their life for the Faith until 9/11.
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I'm going to see it this week - before Easter. BTW the hand that nails the first nail belongs to Mel Gibson - indicating that it wasn't the Joooos who killed Jesus - we all did, and, as noted above, it was pre-ordained. No guilt or blame is appropriate, just thanks
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Jen, true. But they weren't executed with Jesus at the same time. This shows that Rome didn't care about the 'Jesus movement' at that time. It wasn't a threat. They saw it as a squabble between Jews.
Just to be clear, I too think that this who killed Jesus debate is a non-issue. Anyone bringing it up usually has their own anti-semitic baggage.
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Someone made a point on another thread that he saw the movie in Qatar. The muslims were crying, but just maybe some might start thinking about the message - Love they enemy.
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I wonder why Gibson chose to focus only on the Passion.
I got the impression that this movie was meant to be a rebuke or chastisement, or maybe just a reminder, to Christians who mouth the words and go through the motions without really considering the "historical" implications.*
We see bumper stickers and t-shirts bearing vapid expressions like "Jesus is Awesome!" and we hear people all the time saying Jesus died for our sins. I think this movie was Gibson's way of saying, "Um, guys? I don't think you fully understand just what that involved." An attempt to get Christians (In Name Only?) to shake off the passive, rah-rah attitude of cheering for Jesus as if he was the local sports team, and to contemplate what he endured - and, with honest appraisal of one's own life, whether it was worth it.
I think the Jews vs. the Romans hoopla is a red herring. The point isn't who did what or why. The point is: This is how bad it was. This is what was done. For you. Are you worthy of it? If there is an accusation in this movie, it's not directed at the Jews, but at those who claim to follow Jesus.
Just my $.02.
* I used quotes because there is, obviously, dispute as to the historical validity of the subject matter. I mean no offense.
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