I've rebuilt Thugburg, using some routines I've written lately, and moved it to a new server (internal links will still work). Sorry for all the frames â that was the only way I could make it work the way I want it to. It behaves okay in Explorer and Mozilla on my WinBox, though Lord knows what it'll look like in Nutscape 4.6 or 4.7. I don't have Opera installed at the moment, but I'm assuming it'll be at least as well-behaved as Mozilla.
Clicking on an organization gives a listing of all the Bad Guys I've got associated with it, or you can search for a specific name. Remember that transliterated spellings are catch as catch can, so use the wildcards. Let me know when the bugs crawl out... I thought I was getting quite a collection of Bad Guys, but it's distressing, the number of organizations I clicked on and nobody came up. Put it down to torpor and sloth on my part. I've still got lots of work to do on the back end, but if I ever get it done things should get better...
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Where are the mug shots with some crossed out and those left to go...
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Thugberg looks just fine in Opera 6.05.
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It looks OK in Netscape 4.79, except that the search box is cut off. You can tell there's something there, but you can't see what it is.
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Unfortunately it choked on Chimera. I sent the details separately by e-mail.
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You should have a Status: line for each thug,
with possible values like "Captured", "Fugitive",
"Imprisoned", whatever. So it's clear immediately,
the Comments is great for the extended version.
Plans for a 70,000-strong national army for Afghanistan have been outlined by President Hamid Karzai. Mr Karzai told a meeting of UN representatives and donor countries that the safety of his citizens remained his top priority, and that the new army would be a force loyal solely to his government and the only legal army Afghanistan would recognise. The creation of the new Afghan army will mean that all private militias will now be banned. It's always convenient to have your own army when your country's crawling with warlords and wannabe theocrats...
Attempts to form a national army have been hampered by a lack of non-partisan army volunteers and problems with convincing Afghanistan's different ethnic factions on how much representation they should have in the army. The Pashtuns, naturally, think they should be in charge of it, a thought that gives both non-Pashtuns in general and professional military men in particular the runs...
So far, about 2,000 troops are reported to have received US training. The army itself will be largely paid for by the US and UK governments. Mr Karzai said his government was also working to create a national police force, for which Germany is helping to train officers.
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German-trained cops? Reminds me of the joke about the EU. Instead of English cops, French cooks, Swiss bankers, Italian lovers, and German mechanics, they got English cooks, French mechanics, Swiss lovers, Italian bankers, and German cops.
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Afghanistan is a dog's breakfast, posing as a country. Unity there is as impossible as it was in the Soviet Union. Rather than allow competing ethnic groups to conduct their redundant mutual annihation campaigns, break it up and let them fight within their own ethnicities. Self-determination and territorial integrality are competing concepts in international law. It is time to determine under whose sovereignty various ethnicities want to live.
Lamya Tawfik for IslamOnline and Ummahnews
Saudi Arabia no longer gives money directly to relatives of Palestinian martyr bombers, but instead helps families in need through humanitarian organisations, a top Saudi official said Sunday, December 1. "What we do in that case is we give money to the Palestinian Red Cross and to the International Red Cross and to the Red Crescent Society and to the United Nations organisations to provide money to Palestinian families in need," said Adel al-Jubeir, a Saudi foreign policy advisor interviewed Sunday on CNN. "We do not designate who they should give the money to," he said. Al-Jubeir made it clear that Saudi officials "do not encourage people to engage in suicide bombings. They took a hit on that Princess Haifa episode. Even the Soddies can see how bad they look. Time to make a gesture...
"Our grand mufti, our chief spittle-spewing religious theologian in Saudi Arabia, over a year ago condemned suicide bombings as immoral. We also donât believe that they achieve a political purpose," he added. ... more importantly.
In May, Israeli officials said they captured documents in Palestinian territory they occupied that Saudi Arabia sent large amounts of money to the families of Palestinian martyr bombers, as well as to the Islamic resistance movement Hamas- a group the U.S. has placed on its list of terrorist organisations. Only because its members explode without warning in areas crowded with non-combatants...
However, a Saudi official said aid would continue because the relatives of the martyr bombers were not responsible for the actions of their family members, instead blaming the Israelis for the situation. Blaming people for other people killing them seems a stretch, but then, I never did catch on to the philosophy thing...
Speaking to IslamOnline, Dr. Waheed Abdul Majeed, a political analyst from the Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies, said that the move comes as part of an Arab movement to create a truce in the occupied territories. "Hamas and Fatah will meet in Cairo after Eid, and will propose a one-year-truce in exchange for negotiations and the move is being sponsored by Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Somehow they've never managed to adhere to any previous truces, but I guess there's always hope...
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Coincidentally, 'Palestinian families in need' might include those whose homes have recently been leveled for some reason or other...
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"homes have recently been leveled for some reason or other..."
Yes, some silly reason like mothers and children being shot at point blank range, or school-children being blown up on buses. "You kill my child, I kill you - oh, wait, all I do it knock down your house." If I were in Israel's shoes, this whole thing would be resolved in 2 weeks - one week's notice to get rid of Hamas, Arafat, etc, followed by eviction-by-carpet-bombing if they don't. It's MORE than deserved.
United Nations weapons inspectors say equipment has gone missing from a missile factory in Baghdad they inspected four years ago. "In 1998, the site contained a number of pieces of equipment tagged by the United Nations Special Commission [Unscom] and several monitoring cameras," the statement issued by the inspectors said. "None of these are currently present at the facility." "Hey! That's pretty nice! Can I have it?"
"Yeah, sure. They ain't comin' back for it..."
The monitors made the discovery during a surprise visit to the plant on the fifth day of inspections in Iraq. The disclosure marks the first setback for Iraq since the inspections resumed under a tough new UN mandate. The inspectors said the Iraqis claimed some of the equipment had been destroyed in allied bombing raids, and some had been transferred to other sites. "Look, Mahmoud, I don't care if you did give it to your niece for a wedding present. Get it back!"
Reuters news agency quoted a UN source as saying that Iraqi officials had informed the inspectors as to where the equipment had been transferred. "When the time comes, our inspectors will verify their claims," the unnamed source said. "I just hope she didn't break it..."
The al-Karama site has in the past helped manufacture control systems for medium-range Scud ballistic missiles, which are banned under UN rules.
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"Control systems" for Scuds? I thought those suckers were SUPPOSED to be unguided missiles. I think this explains why they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
We should count our blessings: the North Korean missile control systems prolly work as advertised.
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Those diabolical Americans!! Using bombs that destroy (some) equipment, while leaving the building completely intact! It's a plot to discredit honest Arabs.
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The Scud does have a rudimentary control system. It its launched from a vertical position, so it needs _something_ to point it in the right direction and at the correct angle of attack. The V-2 (which the Scud is largely based on) had something similar. It's basically a gyro-compass and a very simple analog computer if I remember my History Channel documentaries correctly.
A lawyer for outspoken Iranian academic Hashem Aghajari has filed an appeal against his controversial death sentence for apostasy. "Hashem Aghajari's lawyer lodged an appeal Monday morning on the last day of a 20-day [appeal] period," court official Zekrollah Ahmadi told Tehran radio. The chief prosecutor, Ayatollah Abdolnabi Namazi, said last Tuesday that if Mr Aghajari did not appeal within 20 days, the court verdict would be final. It is not clear whether Mr Aghajari has now changed his mind or whether his lawyer Saleh Nikbakht went ahead anyway. Mr Nikbakht had earlier said he would appeal, even against his client's wishes, in order to calm the crisis.
Mr Aghajari, a history professor at a Tehran university, was charged after making a speech in which he said that each generation should re-interpret aspects of Islam rather than blindly following religious leaders. Two weeks of student protests followed - the largest in three years - which unnerved Iran's conservative hardliners and apparently led Mr Khamenei to order a review of the sentence. Many analysts then expected the ruling to be quickly reversed but judiciary chief Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi said the court would "follow normal legal procedures to reconsider the verdict". 'Nuther words, they were going to see if he was bluffing. If he wasn't bluffing, they were going to hang him, come what may. If he was bluffing, they're going to show him as craven.
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uh, this starts to sound like Armageddon.
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Don't know why I didn't see the parallel sooner: Saddam = Baron Harkonnen, Uday = the Beast Rabban, and Qusay = Feyd. The rest of the book doesn't map, though.
Shia militiamen opposed to Saddam Hussein have begun deploying around strategic towns in the south of Iraq and are disrupting communications and military supply routes, it was claimed yesterday. Ayatollah Hakim al-Baqir, of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, said on a fund-raising mission in Kuwait: "It is high time military preparations on the ground began. War is inevitable. Now it is up to America to stop delaying." OK by me.
The Ayatollah, who heads the main Iraqi Shia opposition group based in Iran, says he has an estimated 10,000 troops ready to help a military campaign against Iraq, and a large following among the hundreds of thousands of Shias who have fled Saddam.
Until now the Ayatollah has been cautious of advocating military support after brutal reprisals by Iraqi forces following an unsuccessful uprising in the aftermath of the first Gulf war. His words reveal the new-found confidence among Shia groups inside and outside Iraq that action to remove Saddam is imminent. He's taking Bush at his word. Anytime now, please.
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Just to make sure we're using the same script; SCIRI is the casus belli for war with Axis of Evil #2?
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If they look like they're going to meet with some success the Medes and the Persians will have them taken over in no time flat. I can't see any scenario in which the ayatollahs will want anything approximating a liberal democracy next door. So they'll try to take Iraq away from the Great Satan.
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Can't speak for the others, but Iran trying to take Iraq away from the Great Satan would be fine by me, Fred. We have an even bigger fifth column in Iran than we ever had in Afghanistan. True, its mostly unarmed, but changes can be arranged.
A Kenyan farmer has given details of a conversation he says he had with the men believed to have bombed the Paradise Hotel near Mombasa on Thursday. Khamis Haro Deche, 39, says the bombers briefly parked their car in his farmyard before heading off towards the Israeli-owned hotel about one kilometre (0.6 miles) away. Shown a picture of Babu Mohamed al-Misri [aka Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah], an Egyptian fugitive accused by the United States of bombing its embassy in Nairobi in 1998, Mr Deche said that he was not one of the men in the vehicle. Toldja so. If he's a big cheese, he considers himself too important to become flying meat. That's for the rubes faithful followers. If he'd have done the flying meat thing, that would have been an indication he'd been demoted, or that he was impersonating a big shot.
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Why three snuffies in the vehicle anyway? That takes space away from explosives, unless something else went wrong.
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Let's see, there was the driver, passenger riding shotgun (literally), and a boom belt wearer who went inside to increase the blast area. Passenger provided security if they needed to shoot their way in and helped keep driver's nreve up. More manpower than needed, but cannon fodder is cheap. The higher ranking guys would have been using the SAM. Bad shooting, but they'll learn.
I saw some expert on CNN saying that he didn't know how efective the man portable SAMs would be on a jumbo jet. All aircraft shot down so far by one has been smaller, mostly prop jobs and helicopters. He said that because the jumbos had really big engines hanging under the wing, he did not know if the small warhead on these SAMs would do enough damage to cause a crash. (hitting fuel tank is another matter) Has anyone here seen a study on this subject or know enough to give a informed opinion?
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For what its worth ... the articles I've read quote the farmer as saying that he only saw two men in the van. One of those two said they were waiting for a third, who the farmer never saw.
A Muslim leader from the northern Nigerian city of Kaduna has been released on bail after being arrested in connection with religious riots in which more than 200 people were killed. Nafiu Baba Ahmed, secretary general of the Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria, was reportedly taken from his home on Friday night. Following his arrest, the chairman of the Sharia Council, Datti Ahmad, threatened to mobilise Muslims against the governor of Kaduna. "Arrest him for inciting to riot and we'll tear the city down around your ears!"
More than 300 people were arrested in connection with the riots, which were sparked by the Miss World beauty contest, but there has been criticism that the ringleaders have been left alone. That way there can be more riots in another six months or a year. Bigwigs always seem to get off. It's only when somebody accidentally kills them that the riots subside.
Mr Ahmad told AFP that the arrest was linked to Mr Nafiu's opposition to Kaduna Governor Ahmed Makarfi, an ally of President Olusegun Obasanjo. "The arrest is obviously politically motivated at the order of the governor, who has been busy accusing perceived political opponents of causing the violence," Mr Ahmad said. Not a Muslim, is he?
"We have given the governor until Monday to either release Nafiu or charge him to court, otherwise we will know the actions to take, one of which is to mobilise Muslims in Kaduna not to vote for him," he said. ... he threatened, looking pious.
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Gosh, I hope my good friends Mr. Sese-Seko,
Mike Aba and OBI AZUKA are not harmed, what with
all the violence and goings on in Nigeria.
I so look forward to their emails each and every
day.
( the "409" email scam is based primarily in lagos
nigeria, check here for a very funny story of revenge
against the gang )
http://www.haxial.com/fraud/mikeaba.html
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I keep smelling civil war or something close to it brewing in Nigeria; either the central government forces the scrapping of Sharia or we'll wind up getting a Saudified north and a Christian/secular/western south.
Neither will be pretty.
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Probably not a Biafra, that was more a tribal thing. Nigeria's been walking the edge for a decade or more, as are all the African countries along the Muslim / non-Muslim border. Sudan being another prime example.
Look for trouble in Uganda and Kenya (duh!) and the two Congos (doh!) that is religion related. And you have to wonder about the West African nations like Liberia and Ivory Coast.
Sudan's southern rebels are planning to introduce their own currency, reports say, in the latest manoeuvring following recent peace talks. According to Uganda's state-owned New Vision newspaper, the Sudanese People's Liberation Movement has started putting up posters showing designs for the "New Sudan Pound", to supplant the Sudanese dinar. The new currency will go into circulation in January despite protests from the government in Khartoum, the paper says. But experts believe that the announcement may be a bargaining ploy - and would be largely symbolic even if notes actually enter circulation. The rebels' definition of "autonomy" seems to be rather more, ummm... autonomous than the gummint's...
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WESTERN intelligence agencies have identified Somalia as the most likely source of two Sam-7 missiles fired at the Israeli-chartered jet minutes after it left Mombasa airport last Thursday. It was also the main entry point into Kenya of the suicide bombers of the Hotel Paradise. âThose types of Chinese-made Sams are easily purchased in Mogadishu and the rest of southern Somalia. It is virtually certain they came from there,â Moustafa Hassouna, an authority on the threat posed by terrorist groups in East Africa, said. But... But... That guy in al-Guardian said not to blame them. You don't mean he's full of something, do you?
Dr Hassouna, an Egyptian who advises the United Nations on regional security issues, and others said that al-Qaeda had maintained a robust network in the Horn of Africa since the 1998 bombing of the US Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam, which killed more than 200 people. âSome come in under the guise of refugees, others just slip over the border somewhere. There are so many ways in. I canât see how the Kenyan police could possibly control it,â he said. Obviously they can't. It's like living next door to the family with 14 unruly kids, the one with the car up on blocks out front, where the cops are there every other night...
With its level of poverty, several regional conflicts, open borders and corrupt and inefficient governments, experts have long given warning that East Africa could become a âterror centreâ. Camps of impoverished refugees in remote areas provide the perfect breeding grounds for terrorists. For cannon fodder, anyway. There's a difference...
Dr Hassouna believes that the missiles missed the aircraft carrying 260 Israeli holidaymakers home only because they had been poorly maintained. âThis was a very close-run thing indeed and shows a high degree of planning and organisation,â he said. And typically Arab levels of maintenance...
Somalia is a collapsed state with no effective central government since 1991. It has a long border with Kenya, which is used by Arab refugees, a long, unguarded coastline and more than 100 remote landing strips. Washington is pointing the finger again at Al-Ittihad al-Islamiya (Unity of Islam), a shadowy group that appeared in the country in the late 1980s and gained strength and notoriety in the 1990s after the collapse of the rule of the dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. Some experts say that the group, which was financed from Saudi Arabia, ... where else? ...
effectively splintered and broke up several years ago. Others maintain that its members have merely gone to ground. Probably they've been absorbed into a seconed-generation organization by now, with the financing coming round-about, rather than directly from the Sodders.
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A statement released Monday on an Islamic Web site said that Al Qaeda was behind the deadly dual attacks on Israelis in Kenya last week. The 5-page claim on www.azfalrasas.com was made in the name of "The Political Office of Al Qaeda Jihad Organization."
It called the Nov. 28 attacks a Ramadan greeting to the Palestinian people and referred to the Al Qaeda attacks against U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, which killed 231 people â including 12 Americans â and wounded more than 5,000.
"At the same place where the 'Jewish Crusader coalition' was hit four years ago ... here the fighters ... came back once again to strike heavily against that evil coalition," the statement said. "But this time, it was against Jews..." Does that mean we can go back to looking for the usual suspects now?
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I think the Kenyans want US and Israeli investigators to butt out because the results will implicate them in some way - probably some minor Kenyan govt functionaries looking the other way while the deal with Somalia was done.
The missiles fired at an Israeli airliner in Mombasa last week have been linked to a similar attempt in Prague last year to bring down an aircraft carrying the then Israeli foreign minister, Shimon Peres, an Israeli intelligence official says. That they would try it in what is essentially a western country doesn't bode well for the future
The Israeli investigation, led by the intelligence agency Mossad, has found the gas canister used in the bombing as well as witnesses who say they saw the bombers. The discarded missile launchers may also yield vital information. Israeli intelligence agents told the Hebrew daily Yediot Ahronot that the serial numbers linked them to two similar missile launchers found near a runway at Prague airport in November last year.
Czech officials were convinced the missiles were part of an abortive plot to shoot down an El Al airliner carrying Mr Peres. Yediot Ahronot said the missiles in the two attacks were from the same manufacturing series of missiles made in May 1974 by the Zid factory, just outside Moscow.
"Cross-referencing this new information with the intelligence services in Europe can give us a clear indication as to the identity of the organisation that committed the terror attack in Mombasa," the newspaper quoted an intelligence official as saying. At the time of the abortive plot in Prague there were suspicions in Israel that the attack had been masterminded by Hezbollah. Hezbollah would certainly have the capability to carry out these attacks, but they are too tight on the leash of the Syrians and Iranians to be allowed to carry out an action that might have negative effects on the people who write the cheques
As Israel buried its three victims of the resort hotel attack, Shaul Mofaz, the country's Defence Minister, was quoted as telling cabinet colleagues: "The suspicion that al-Qaeda was involved is growing stronger, although there is no concrete evidence."
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Trying to kill Peres, the dovish former PM, sounds counterproductive enough to be a Paleo brainstorm...
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Not so much that Hezbollah is too tight on the leash, but that they and their backers have nothing in particular to gain from either attack.
The head of the Dutch secret service, Siebrand van Hulst, has been giving evidence on the first day of the trial in the Netherlands of four men accused of having links with al-Qaeda. The four - Frenchman Jerome Courtailler, Algerians Abdelkader Rabia and Adel Tobbichi, and Saad Ibrahim, a Dutch national of Ethiopian origin - are accused of planning attacks on US targets in Europe.
In a rare courtroom appearance, Mr Van Huls debated with the judges as to what information he could disclose without revealing sources or intelligence-gathering methods. But he did hand over 14 wire taps of the suspects' telephone calls.
Three of the men - the Frenchman, one Algerian and the Dutchman - were picked up by police in swoops less than 48 hours after last year's suicide attacks. Searches of their Rotterdam apartment turned up stolen passports, videotapes of Osama Bin Laden and explosives manuals, prosecutors said. The other Algerian suspect was arrested in Canada and extradited to the Netherlands. If found guilty, the four face a maximum sentence of eight years and 10 months in prison. The accused will be asked to plead to charges later this week at the trial, which is being held under tight security. A total of nine people in France and three in Belgium have been arrested in connection with the case. And thousands more to go. I have a hard time forming a picture in my mind of the Dutch Secret Service. Is there anything there? Or is a just another Eurocracy?
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Two people have been killed and at least 10 others injured in a bomb explosion on a bus in India's main commercial city, Bombay, the authorities say. The blast occurred near the railway station in the central area of Ghatkopar in Bombay (also known as Mumbai) at about 18:45. The injured have been taken to hospital where their condition is stable, Kripa Shankar Singh, junior state minister for home affairs, told the BBC. "The explosion took place in the rear of the bus," he said. "People standing around were injured by flying bits of the bus." Police said that the bus was empty and parked in a yard when the explosion occurred. The injured had been standing nearby. The likely suspects are the usual Islamic suspects, but, given India's underworld, which often blends into the usual suspects' territory, it could also be crooks.
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Separatist rebels in India's north-eastern state of Tripura have said they will not recruit any more women into their ranks. The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) says it has executed three of its guerrillas in the last two months after they had been found trying to elope with female rebels they had been courting. Tripura police spokesman Jaidev Das told the BBC: "Many of these young guerrillas are totally frustrated with the life in the jungles. "When they meet females, some of them want to marry and return to normal life." Gives meaning to "Make love, not war."
But despite the executions, one NLFT "sergeant" Makai Debbarma married his colleague Sharmila and surrendered to police recently. Mr Debbarma said: "I was fed up with killing people. I was fed up with running around in the jungles. When I fell in love with Sharmila, I was determined to marry her and flee."
In late 2000, the NLFT was accused of gang-raping seven Bengali Muslims at Raiabari in southern Tripura. The youngest of the victims, who was just 12-years-old, said she was gang-raped by three NLFT guerrillas. So when the NLFT was faced with such large scale allegations of rape, its leaders decided to increase the recruitment of women.
But then instead of living with them or having occasional sex, the NLFT guerrillas started getting married in their bases.
After marriage, many of the guerrilla couples started fleeing from the bases and some of them surrendered.
Dhananjoy Reang, the NLFT's founder-chairman said: "It is fine for leaders to get married because they stay with their families and plan strategies. "But if large numbers of guerrillas who are involved in combat get married, it will surely dampen their morale." Getting married sure dampened my morale. Oops, if my wife saw that, I'd have to head back to the jungle.
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Maybe the NLFTs converted to Islam. Mohammed authorized sex with (read: rape of)female captives, "which the right hand possesses." And he married his last wife, Aisha, when she was 6 years of age (the dirty old man was 55).
Three alleged IRA members charged with training Marxist guerrillas in Colombia have refused to appear in court in the country's capital, Bogota, to face trial. Niall Connolly, Martin McCauley and James Monaghan, who were arrested last year in the city, stand accused of training leftist insurgents in the use of explosives and other terrorist techniques. But they say that the conditions do not exist for a fair hearing, and the trial is going ahead without them. Faith, lads! Y'don't have to be there for yer trial! Yez only have to be there for yer execution!
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Typical IRA malarky. Can't get a fair-trial, therefore we are the persecuted. They are: criminals.
The Palestine Liberation Organization's (PLO) second in command Mahmud Abbas urged Palestinian factions to halt all military attacks against Israel, in comments published in Egyptian newspapers Sunday, December 1. "All Palestinian factions should declare their commitment to end the military operations, in all forms, totally and not partially," he said in an interview conducted in Qatar with the Egyptian newspaper al-Ahram. Damn. That's the second time he's said that in public, at least, and his car hasn't blown up yet...
Abbas, aka Abu Mazen, said the Palestinians should "return to the means of resistance used in the first intifada" against Israel, in the late 1980s, "including stone throwing, demonstrations and other means of peaceful protest." He said the "militarization" of the second intifada "has led to the total destruction of the Palestinian infrastructures and the Palestinian Authority institutions." The Paleos have made rubble and called it revolution. They probably could have gotten a lot more than they have now through discussion and negotiation, but that's not what gets chicks, is it?
Abbas called on Jihad to join the dialogue that opened between Palestinian President Yasser Arafat's mainstream Fatah group and Hamas to draw up a common strategy. One that doesn't include explosives? I don't think so...
His statements came as Israel mounted up its incessant military aggressions against innocent Palestinians killing two Palestinians and wounding three others, including two children, in Gaza on Sunday. Hamas and Fatah held last month a first round of talks in Cairo and are due to meet again in the Egyptian capital after the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
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I have to ask: any chance that getting some of these guys married off would solve the problem?
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that kinda heresy will get him killed fer sure
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Steve - interesting article here about your question, although of course anything the Paleos have to say needs to be thoroughly disinfected
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Steve - interesting article here about your question, although of course anything the Paleos have to say needs to be thoroughly disinfected
sorry-link didn't work:
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2001/12/hoffman.htm
Imam Samudra, the alleged mastermind of the Oct. 12 Bali bombings, would welcome capital punishment for the crime because he considers it a martyr's death, AP reported. Lawyer Achmad Michdan, who represents Imam, said his client had asked him what his punishment would likely be for his role in the bombings that killed at least 185 people, mostly foreigners. Michdan replied that it would probably be death. "I'd be happy to get that. I'm ready to die as a martyr," Imam was quoted by Michdan as saying. Good. We're all in agreement, then...
Police say Imam has confessed to planning and executing the Bali bombings. Police have arrested 20 people in connection with the Bali attacks. However, police say only Imam and another suspect, identified as Amrozi, played direct roles. Hey, don't let us stop you from hanging as many of them as you want!
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Too bad they didn't figure out that "Imam" is a religous title, not the guy's name. Use "Samudra" or "the Imam", guys...
Al-Qaeda-linked terrorists plotted to attack the 2000 Olympics in Sydney but then abandoned the operation, according to South-East Asian intelligence sources.
Jemaah Islamiah, the terror group blamed for the October 12 Bali bombings that killed nearly 200 people - mostly Australian tourists - selected and trained a team for the attack, the Singapore Straits Times reported.
Members of the team which prepared for the attack allegedly included an Indonesian national who worked as a taxi-driver in Sydney and an Australian Jemaah Islamiah member, sources told the newspaper.
However, the plan by Jemaah Islamiah's alleged operations chief, Riduan Isamuddin, also known as Hambali, was rejected by the group's Australian leader for unknown reasons, the newspaper said. The nature of the planned attack also was not known.
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You mean, other than the fact that it involved lots of explosives, right?
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There is always Athens in 04...
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