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What a spin! Eye on Saudi Maids Reveals Child Abuse
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As somebody who lived there for a number of years, I can tell you this is COMPLETE BULLSHIT!! Maids as well as all the labor hand in that shit hole are terrified of even saudi born mosquitos! They will never, ever beat a saudi child because they know that death or torture is to follow!
JEDDAH, 27 March 2005 Many Saudi families have installed secret cameras in their homes in order to monitor the behavior of their maids. The families are supposedly interested in seeing how the maids treat their children, especially since violence against children is increasing in the Kingdom.
Umm Sultan, a Saudi mother working in the educational sector, has had more than eight maids in the past few years. She has had to change them because of abuse of her children.
She said: "I suspected that my maid was abusing my child when he always ran to me and said he didn't want to be with her." Umm Sultan decided to take a friend's advice and install a camera to see what was going on. She said: "The maid left my child crying for hours while she took a bath or watched TV. When the child was hungry, she took the bottle, shouted at him and then threw the bottle at him. In the end my child cried himself to sleep. I could not watch the tape so I called my husband and showed it to him. The maid was deported the same day."
Umm Sultan's story is generally typical of what the secret cameras reveal.
Maids, on the other hand, strongly object to being secretly filmed. They said it was an invasion of their privacy. An Indonesian maid stated, "Nobody has the right to film me or any other maid. We refuse to have our private lives filmed. I will not agree to being filmed."
Foreign consular offices in the Kingdom have different opinions. Muhammad Salheen, from the Indonesian Consulate, understands the motives that drive many Saudi families to install secret cameras. At the same time, he pointed out: "Just as Saudis are entitled to their privacy, so are maids. Saudis could avoid the stress and violence which may come from their maids by specifying exact work times and rest times. Many maids are driven to violence as a result of stress because of the absence of laws and regulations related to their work."
Ahmad Ali believes that secret cameras are important in every house where there are maids. He described his experience when he discovered that his maid was beating his young child.
He said: "Thank God I discovered how my maid was beating my child, because of secret cameras."
The secret camera business has brought huge profits to stores which sell them. Ahmad Al-Shawi, the manager of a big camera observation company, said the number of Saudi families asking for the service is increasing every month. He said: "Secret camera prices vary. They run from about $550 to $1,300. The price also depends on the size as most Saudi families prefer the smaller ones that cannot be seen or discovered."
Ah, so that wretched abuse that cost a maid several digits was JUSTIFIED, you see, because of the rampant child abuse going on. The religious police must also be thrilled at increased surveillance .... | [http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=61121&d=27&m=3&y=2005]
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But of course, Saudis wouldn't even think in looking at the camera while the girl disrobes. |
Posted by: JFM ||
03/27/2005 9:42 Comments ||
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Of course not, JFM! We're too busy reviewing all those alleged porn CD's that were siezed earlier this week. This will take a considerable amount of time and towels and baby oil... |
Posted by: Shiek Yerbouti ||
03/27/2005 10:07 Comments ||
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They just want to make a video of the manly muslim men raping their maids..... Rape is almost a religous obligation in Islam you see... |
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Fortuneately, I never had to install cameras to watch our maids - there weren't any. Mrs. Bobby and I raised all three of our little darlings wihtout hired help! Wotta concept! |
Posted by: Bobby ||
03/27/2005 13:46 Comments ||
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Well, I've used border colliers who were sometimes too aggressive with the nephews but hey! That's just the way they are.
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Posted by: Shipman ||
03/27/2005 13:53 Comments ||
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The collies or the kids, Ship? heh .... |
Posted by: too true ||
03/27/2005 13:54 Comments ||
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The collies of course! The chillrun run and scream after a few nips on the ankle. Course it makes them easy to mass. |
Posted by: Shipman ||
03/27/2005 15:38 Comments ||
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Have a friend with a Great Pyrenees. Great dog, not a wanderer but she can't let it outside in the early morning and the evenings, because it herds joggers. As in, she comes out front to see 5 or so nervous people standing near her fence - one moves and the Pyr moves in to keep the guys/gals together. I guess it figures the car traffic is dangerous - no sidewalks there - and it needs to protect its funny looking 'sheep'. Heh. |
Posted by: too true ||
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tt - LOL! That conjures up all sorts of hysterical images for me, lol! Hmmmm. Herds joggers, eh? I'm picturing the Marin Co Massacre... 2 or 3 of these awesome dogs send hundreds of Bay Area joggers off one of the palisades into the icy shark-ridden waters...
Oh, um, sorry. Daydreaming again. |
Posted by: .com ||
03/27/2005 16:43 Comments ||
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LOL! .com except it could never happen. The dawgs would throw themselves in front of the herd to keep them from the cliff. What you want is a Tasmanian tiger.... rats... whers that .jpg? I had it... fooey. Anyway. A cat who hates folks. |
Posted by: Shipman ||
03/27/2005 17:12 Comments ||
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No wait a second.... my sources inform me that a Sheltie would herd them off in a second. |
Posted by: Shipman ||
03/27/2005 17:14 Comments ||
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Ship - Lol - I'm afraid Shelties might explode from all the excitement, heh! |
Posted by: .com ||
03/27/2005 17:28 Comments ||
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TMH, speaking as someone who has employed a number of Asian maids (when living in Asia), I know that abusing young children is a common way for maids to exact revenge for real and imagined abuses on them. I don't condone it but I understand why it happens. |
Posted by: phil_b ||
03/27/2005 17:50 Comments ||
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As someone who lived in SA, I'll say that TMH's assertions regards Saudi Arabia are absolutely correct. Perhaps a maid employed in her / his own native locale may be abusive, but you can bet your ass that one in SA would not be - for fear of her / his very life.
Maids and "Houseboys" are commonly terrorized, starved, beaten, and sexually abused by the Saudis, both the males and females -- and there is no escape. Even if they had squirreled away cash to buy a ticket, the "employer" / "sponsor" keeps their passports. You can't run away to the nearest Catholic Church and beg Father DoGood to sneak you out of the country - no one is sympathetic to your plight. No. One. They are no different than indentured servants, who are often "fined" for "misbehavior" and there is no recourse. They are routinely held beyond their agreed contract and routinely paid less than was agreed and routinely charged for anything the employer provides. Those who are "live-in" cannot leave the house, period, without permission. Talk about making a complaint to the Labor Ministry is completely laughable without a company behind you or in large numbers. Top it off with this: The Labor Ministry won't even give you an interview if you don't have a native Arabic speaker to represent you - this is common in all dealings with the Govt... it "makes work" for indolent useless Saudis and other Arabs from the GCC who are not from connected / wealthy tribes. There is no recourse. Asking for trouble would bring it in spades - there's plenty of abuse coming at them from the Saudis, they don't need to, and I say won't, go asking for it.
In the Asian country I've been in long enough to employ domestic help, Thailand, I've neither seen nor heard of any sort of child abuse. I did not have children there with me, so no first-hand knowledge one way or the other. None of my Thai friends with children was financially independent, lol!
In Saudi, it would be absolute suicide. They are already abused and unprotected beyond the wildest dreams of any American or Westerner. To buy into this Bullshit is to be utterly suckered, lol! |
Posted by: .com ||
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Bahrain Warns Opposition After Pro-Reform Rally
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Bahraini authorities yesterday warned of action against the country's main opposition group after it organized a mass demonstration in defiance of a government ban. Al-Wefaq Society "will face legal measures after it organized an unlawful demonstration" on Friday, Information Minister and State Minister for Foreign Affairs Mohammad Abdul Ghaffar was quoted as saying yesterday. Tens of thousands of people took to the streets of Sitra, the archipelago's third largest island located south of Manama, in response to Al-Wefaq's call to press for constitutional reforms.
Protesters, defying an Interior Ministry ban, filled the main highway carrying Bahraini flags and chanting slogans demanding change. Organizers estimated the crowd at about 80,000. More than 2,000 women, all dressed in black robes, joined the march. Late Friday, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashed ibn Abdullah Al-Khalifa called for legal action against the organizers for holding the march despite being refused a permit, the BNA news agency reported. Sheikh Rashed said his ministry did not issue the permit due to regional "tension and security threats". But Al-Wefaq leader Sheikh Ali Salman, who led the rally, emphasized that they were keen on protecting civil peace and did not intend to disturb or negatively impact government efforts to attract foreign investment. "Nonetheless we have demands that need to be addressed," he said. Sheikh Salman added that their main demand was to have the National Assembly be fully elected. Currently the assembly, which is composed of two houses and has 80 members, has half its members appointed by the king.
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Anti-Regime Protests Planned In Bahrain
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Bahrain has braced for the prospect of massive anti-regime protests. Bahraini opposition groups plans to stage a series of demonstrations to demand constitutional changes. The groups have been dominated by Shi'ites, who have sought equal rights in the Sunni-led kingdom. Opposition sources said the demonstrations would be led by the Shi'ite-dominated Islamic Wefaq Society, the largest opposition group and accused by authorities of being linked to Iran. They said the first protests would be launched in the Shi'ite-populated island of Sitra in western Bahrain on Friday. "The idea is to unite all the opposition groups in demonstrations that would reflect the protests in Egypt and Lebanon," an opposition source said.
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Britain |
Kilts, Military Uniforms Banned from Cambridge Graduation (Hijab OK)
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This is an outrage! Barbarians! Heathens! Saracen-loving Saxon Swine!
Tartan outcry as Cambridge bans kilts
Nick Fielding
CAMBRIDGE University has barred Scottish students from wearing kilts at degree ceremonies as part of a ban on national costumes.
The ban has been introduced because the university says it wants all students to dress as equals. Even members of the armed forces will be prevented from wearing their uniforms.
Heh, the war-mongering mercenaries ought to be glad they can go to Cambridge at all.
Although the regulations apply to kilts, there will be an exemption for religious dress such as Islamic veils.
Naturally.
The ban brought criticism from politicians north of the border yesterday. Jim Wallace, the Scottish executive's deputy first minister and a Cambridge graduate made his opinion clear.
"Instead of clamping down, they should be more flexible," he said. "You must be able to combine the best of the traditional, such as gowns and hoods, with something that allows you, if you want to, to wear your national dress. As long as it is still dignified, then this should be allowed."
Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish National party's shadow justice and home affairs minister, said the ban was "petty and very narrow-minded". Bill Aitken, the Conservative MSP for Glasgow, said it was "total and utter nonsense".
Someone needs to conjure up William Wallace and Robert the Bruce.
A spokesman for the university defended the decision on the grounds that graduation regulations had always emphasised that traditional dress should be worn, but that they had not been enforced until now. By traditional dress, the regulations mean trousers and ties for men and skirt-suits for women.
"As a Progressive institution, how can we maintain our principles of academic freedom, open debate, and free expression if khufrs and militarists get to dress any way they like?"
"The arch-druids praelectors (graduation regulations officials) found that just recently the breaches of their regulations have been more prolific and more extreme. They asked if they could allow them to be enforced," said the spokesman.
Will Berkeley transfers be allowed to wear their religious costume of Che t-shirt and tie-dyed jeans?
He added: "The underlying reason for the graduation ceremony is that you become a member of Cambridge University regardless of whether you are a Scottish, a New Zealand or an army one."
If you're an Islamo one, though, you get special consideration.
A spokesman for the Scottish Tartan Authority, which promotes traditional dress, said: "While we do not know the dress code of the colleges concerned, we would be very disappointed to see a ban on tartan."
A fourth-year male student, who did not want to be named, said: "I'm proud of my Scottish identity and I think this is unfair on Scottish students."
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Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy ||
03/27/2005 4:23:20 PM ||
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So go as a Scotish tent! Need a little extra room for the crowd but hey! Mo Beer! Tartan Hajibs are the wave of the future.
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Posted by: Shipman ||
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Aha! This is the insidious work of the Blancmonges, methinks!
(The first Monty Python show I ever saw - circa 1973)
Within certain societal institutions, academia in this case, the gig is up. PC and Dhimmitude have converged into a super-virus that causes stupidity and twisted rationales. In this case...
"Hey! Let's offend Scotland! They have received enough Dhimmitude, yet!"
"Brilliant! Let's!" |
Posted by: .com ||
03/27/2005 17:48 Comments ||
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Preview is your friend:
"They have not received enough Dhimmitude, yet!" |
Posted by: .com ||
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Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia |
Rival Kyrgyz parliaments struggle for power
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Two rival parliaments competed for power Sunday in Kyrgyzstan, raising political uncertainty in the former Soviet state days after its leader fled for Russia and his government collapsed amid massive demonstrations. Police and civilian volunteers appeared to have stemmed the looting that raged through Bishkek after demonstrators stormed the presidential headquarters on Thursday and sent President Askar Akayev fleeing to Russia. But disorder persisted in the political sphere, and the country's law-enforcement coordinator, appointed by one parliament, demanded the other body be recognized as legitimate in an apparent split in the opposition.
Some fear the split and the competing parliaments could fuel simmering tension and plunge the shaken Central Asian country into deeper turmoil. Both groups the parliament newly elected in a disputed vote that sparked massive discontent, and the one that lost the election met in separate chambers over the weekend, each claiming to represent the people. Felix Kulov, a former opposition leader who was freed from jail Thursday, warned lawmakers in the old parliament led by his own allies that they should step down. "The new parliament is legitimate and the old parliament's term has expired," said Kulov, who has been placed in charge of law enforcement agencies. He warned the former parliament that "if you get people out, I will take measures to arrest you." Kulov later apologized when Prosecutor-General Azim Beknazarov challenged him, saying: "These are the people who freed you, will you arrest them?"
"I am too tired. I apologize for that," Kulov said.
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Russia grants asylum to Kyrgyz leader
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Russia has granted asylum to Kyrgyzstan's ousted leader Askar Akayev at his request, the Kremlin said on Saturday. "Askar Akayev asked that he be allowed to come to Russia, and this has been granted," the Kremlin's press service said, quoted by the Interfax news agency.
It was not clear Saturday evening whether Akayev was in Russia. But Interfax, citing unnamed sources, reported earlier on Saturday that he had arrived in the country. "Akayev arrived during the night from Kazakhstan," the agency quoted one of the sources as saying. Interfax said that it could not confirm the report officially. A radio station in Moscow said that sources close to Akayev had confirmed to it that the deposed leader had arrived in Moscow.
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Posted by: Fred ||
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Moscow? Can he not afford Paris like the rest of the retired dictators? |
Posted by: trailing wife ||
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FUGLY! |
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China-Japan-Koreas |
Glimpse of the world shatters Norks' illusions
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Sitting on a bare floor in a chilly one-room apartment, Lee Hae Jon and her younger sister, Hae Sun, struggled recently for words to describe their lives since they clandestinely made their way here from North Korea five years ago. Their mother married a Chinese man and disappeared from their lives without a trace. Since then, a Chinese widow of Korean descent has taken the girls into her apartment and kept them clothed and fed. But for five years, the teenage sisters have not dared to go outside in daylight for fear of being sent back to their country, or worse, trafficked as young brides or prostitutes in this booming Chinese border city.
The sisters try to teach themselves Chinese, using a couple of old textbooks and repeating phrases from television, which they watch endlessly. A crude Hula-Hoop is their only source of exercise, and each knock on the door their only excitement. They never know whether it is help from their caretaker's friends or the police coming to arrest them. "We have no friends, and no future, nothing at all, really," said the soft-spoken older sister, Hae Jon, 17. "But if we stay here, at least we have enough to eat. In our country, we could go for days without eating." Within months, according to an underground network of people who help support the sisters, Hae Jon may be alone. Hae Sun, a shy girl of 13, is dying of kidney cancer and is not permitted to be flown out of the country for advanced care.
The Lee sisters are part of a virtually stateless underground population of North Koreans who have crossed into China along the 877-mile border between the countries and live on the lam in this region. International refugee and human rights groups have estimated their numbers at 200,000 and growing.
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Posted by: Dan Darling ||
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Six million North Koreans to face food shortages: WFP
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The UN World Food Programme said Saturday that due to a lack of donations it was going to have to gradually stop supplying rations to 6.5 million North Koreans, and called on Pyongyang to lift restrictions on the distribution of aid. "We're doing our best to mobilize support, but we need more help from the authorities in Pyongyang," WFP Asia director Tony Banbury said in Beijing, following a four-day visit to North Korea. Because its stocks are exhausted, the WFP has already stopped providing vegetable oil to 900,000 old people, and as of this week will have to stop delivering essential nutritional supplements to 600,000 children in creches and nursery schools, Banbury said during a press conference. If nothing was done by the start of May, 1.2 million child and woman would not receive any more "WFP pulses" and a million other people would be deprived of cereals as of June, he said.
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Posted by: Fred ||
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All the more reason for the North Korean people to overthrow their oppressors. |
Posted by: Jonathan ||
03/27/2005 0:07 Comments ||
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It looks like Kimmie-boy-the-baby-killer is eating well.... |
Posted by: CrazyFool ||
03/27/2005 0:09 Comments ||
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This is a perfect opportunity to point out that, after the industrial revolution, ONLY UNDER MARXIST TYRANNIES do whole nations starve.
Apart from that, let them eat juche. We should make any food help (even one bag of rice) conditional on regime change. And send them pictures of well-stocked supermarkets in America and South Korea. Starvation in NoKo is entirely man-made and Kimmie's fault. |
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) ||
03/27/2005 0:14 Comments ||
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CHINA<-KIMMIE<-GENERALS<-ARMY<-COMMIE GANGSTERS<-STARVING POPULATION
alot of bad people depend on KIMMIE, killing him wouldn't be enough, everyone's corrupt and brainwahsed with hate and lies, like madras graduates...ignorance isn't a good excuse.
I place the blame mostly on China for the 50+ year conflict, Kim is a bumbling heir, that's only my opinion. |
Posted by: Hupereling Wholumble6492 ||
03/27/2005 1:23 Comments ||
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Kimmie can always try feeding his people missile and nuclear bomb parts... |
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama ||
03/27/2005 4:44 Comments ||
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Six million North Koreans to face food shortages , and now NK has its firt admited bout of bird flu .. |
Posted by: MacNails ||
03/27/2005 5:11 Comments ||
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gah *first* , not firt |
Posted by: MacNails ||
03/27/2005 5:12 Comments ||
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It's springtime in Korea and time to pick all the wild weeds and fatten up after a rough winter. How do you say thin thin rice gruel in Korean? |
Posted by: sea cruise ||
03/27/2005 5:44 Comments ||
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Talk about your bad timing.
...[N]o people had been infected but hundreds of thousands of chickens had been culled and the carcasses burned. Ouch. |
Posted by: Rex Rufus ||
03/27/2005 5:48 Comments ||
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Roasted rice paddy rat stuffed with wild spring greens sounds delicious to me and 15 million North Koreans |
Posted by: sea cruise ||
03/27/2005 6:28 Comments ||
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hell, let em starve
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Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 ||
03/27/2005 10:10 Comments ||
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Let's Schiavo the North Koreans. It's the new morality. |
Posted by: badanov ||
03/27/2005 10:37 Comments ||
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Well, we've learned just this past week from the MSM that starving to death is peaceful and serene. At least we know that the Norks won't suffer. |
Posted by: JerseyMike ||
03/27/2005 13:34 Comments ||
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food shortages So that what it's called nowadays. |
Posted by: trailing wife ||
03/27/2005 14:22 Comments ||
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Happens in Florida too TW. You can't believe what Publix wanted for a small leg of lamb.
and BTW lamb MY A&& hell the bones of a leg of lamb are not normally the size of a Louisville slugger. Just call it mutton and we'll all be happy. |
Posted by: Shipman ||
03/27/2005 15:42 Comments ||
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Normally I don't like lamb much, but we were in the Orkneys a few years ago and had lamb that had just been slaughtered 2 days prior ... raised on the grass there. It was a totally different product than the stuff in the supermarket here. |
Posted by: too true ||
03/27/2005 15:49 Comments ||
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You poor, suffering darling, Shipman. Perhaps it's time you just gave up and grew your own, hmm? And it would mow the lawn for you, and you could knit a pair of baby booties from the wool, too! |
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Protestors Clash With Riot Police At Australian Detention Centre
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POLICE removed at least five protesters following clashes outside the Baxter detention centre in South Australia today. Violence erupted this morning when police in riot gear charged into a crowd of about 200 protesters as they marched on the centre near Port Augusta. Protest kites were flying and a police helicopter was buzzing overheard. Yesterday, seven people were arrested in separate clashes with police in continuing Easter weekend demonstrations.
Today, Australian Democrats Leader Lyn Allison defended the protesters following violent scenes at the complex yesterday. Senator Allison said the demonstrators were outnumbered by police, charged by officers on horseback and forced to camp kilometres away from the detention centre. She deplored the use of violence, but said the clampdown on the protesters was not fair. "Violence is never useful in demonstrations of opposition to government policies, but from what I can gather, the protesters were hugely outnumbered by police - and mounted police at that - and they were charged on one occasion," Senator Allison said on Channel 10's Meet The Press program. "They were forced to camp four kilometres away from the site. All that suggests that we're clamping down on people's rights to protest and that doesn't seem fair to me."
Four people were arrested after police on horseback charged protesters yesterday afternoon, while three more people were arrested last night as demonstrations continued outside the complex. Police said some of the protesters hit police officers and their horses with cricket and baseball bats during a violent clash about 150 metres from the western perimeter fence of the Baxter centre. Two protesters were injured in the confrontation with police.
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Posted by: God Save The World ||
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From commie website. These must be where the Muslim boat people are held who
tried the scam of crashing past Australia's borders on asylum scams. Yes some
are probably deserving but why should Western nations be burdened by the
problems of Muslim nations. Let the Muhammad's cultists sort it out amongst
themselves
Muslim refugees are detained, women and children included, in remote prisons called "Detention Centres". The largest of these centres is South Australia's Baxter Detention Centre or "Australia's Abu Ghraib", as recent
German tourists call it. Baxter Detention Centre "is a chilling sight,
surrounded by barbed wire and towering electric fences humming with 9000 volts. No life can be seen from the outside: all buildings face inwards, and there is only the long, lonely road that winds out from Port Augusta at the remote apex of South Australia's Spencer Gulf, past mangrove swamps and into the vast plain that vanishes into the distant Flinders Range". If it is sobering from the outside, it is so much more when the gates slide shut
behind the asylum-seekers sent there under Australia's policy of mandatory
detention" reported the New Zealand Herald on 22 May 2004. 'It is like a
prison here',
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